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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: snafu on August 04, 2001, 07:02:00 AM
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Hi All,
Just a quickie,
Is the turbulance you would encounter when following another plane closely modelled? I only ask because I have never noticed it, even when part of a large formation, and would have thought with all the effort which has gone into wind layers, ammo ballistics, trajectories etc it would be something which would be there.
Thanks
TTFN
snafu
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once posted on this thema , even not a simgle reply , they big fighter pilots not intereset on it
in real life even a HO pas can shake other plane with turbulence
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Simply can't wait to play the game you design and publish minus.
I'm sure it will model every single aspect of flight in excruciatingly perfect detail and will be released with all of those things present in the first release.
Can I get in the beta?
Wait... won't need a beta right? It'll be perfect first time out. Silly me.
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Sorry Toad but I can't see where he says hes designing a game ?
Did you take OD this morning or are you just having a flashback ?
BTW people Drugs make you dumb, Dont use 'em.
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Yeah, Staga. Guess you're right. When I don't have my morning coffee (caffein's a drug, right?) the continual whiners that contribute nothing but complaints to the board sometimes get on my nerves.
I'll try to understand how "even not a simgle reply , they big fighter pilots not intereset on it" hurt minus so deeply.
Those darn big fighter pilots! Maybe I should hate those guys! Of all the seventy-two million+ aspects of flight, aircraft and air combat, they choose THAT one to ignore! Man, the nerve!
Oh... wait... this is a GAME!
Nevermind.
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Relax and have a glass of Vodka with Rybb&Decker's (50/50).
I found it quite relaxing ;)
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toad if we met at 1988 in CSSR and u see my bird u run back to your sand box ;)
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ps : i not use EDIT :)
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Sorry, minus... in '88 I was already living the good life.
Hey.. guess what... we don't have RAIN in AH either! Hope I didn't ruin your day.
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Toad what makes you think he didn't have a "good life" ?
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Staga,
Didn't make any comment about his life at all.
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Wow 10 replies,
Falling over myself to open the thread and and read some objective comments I find a "slanging" match going on. :(
Hey guys lighten up, it was a simple enough question....
A simple yes or no would have kept me happy. ;)
TTFN
snafu
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The question is interesting. If I am not betrayed by my fantasy (lol!), MiG Alley had it implemented.
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I do not believe prop wash (turbulance from other airplanes) is modelled in any way, shape or form.
btw, drugs do not make you dumb. Ignorance makes you dumb.
-SW
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While I know little about turbulence and backwash or whatever ya'll call it from the prop, I have noticed that herb will make me forget someone's IP before I can get back to desktop and type it into RW. I am think it time to lay off. Drug cause dain bramage.
im serious about the IP thing too...
keep that in mind all you youngsters....
im only 29 ! ! ! !
oh...turbulence would be cool addition, as would the ability to hear other planes as they pass (like fighter ace II).
[ 08-06-2001: Message edited by: zapkin ]
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Originally posted by zapkin:
Drug cause dain bramage.
keep that in mind all you youngsters....
im only 29 ! ! ! !
You are incorrect. You need to narrow down from drugs to each specific drug.
You do know alchohol is a drug right? You do know it causes both brain damage and liver damage?
Really, proper education and using drugs is better than mis-education and not doing them but claiming to know it all.
[ 08-06-2001: Message edited by: SWulfe ]
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Drug use other than for medical reasons is plain dumb... Why do poeple need to USE drugs to get into a state of being blah.....
And drug use does make you dumb wulf, not you,.. but in general.. I have seen many people screw thier lives up by getting into all kinds of garbarge.
Drugs are bad, and so is alchol...
Both of these also apply to everything in moderation to an extent. but then again NOT.....
It also depends upon the person who is doing the drugs, how much it affects them.
-out
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You said that you've seen people screw up their lives from drug use, then go on to state moderation is everything.
That in itself is self-explanatory. If you just use drugs of course you are going to screw up your life.
Would these people have screwed up their lives if it weren't for drugs? Who knows, if they kick the habit, then no they wouldn't have screwed up their lives. If they don't kick the habit, they would of screwed up their lives anyway and wouldn't of made a lick of difference had they done drugs or not.
Now that being said, I've done my fair share of them, but there are some I simply won't touch.
Anyways, this discussion was about prop wash.
-SW
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Now that being said, I've done my fair share of them, but there are some I simply won't touch.
And I say because drugs are bad. :D
Anyways, this discussion was about prop wash.
hehe yes it was... or was it about "backwash" ;)
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"And I say because drugs are bad."
SOME!
-SW
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here let me pose this question to ya wulf..
You know how Weed is in itslef not harmful right? and you know most of the time when done in moderation, it will only relax the user right?
but,.. would you want the pilot of the airliner you are on to be smokin it up/has just recently smoked it up flying you around?
Do you still think that it would do no harm, or possibly be of nothing to worry about?
I think any form of drug,.. Liquid/gas/solid is obviously not a Proactive thing to do for your body in 99.99999999 % of the time. Either its killing brain cells or killing others because of loss of focus, its not good.
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DeeZ, now you are just being rediculous.
They (the anti-drug people) pose these questions all of the time. Ironically, these same anti-drug people have a beer or glass of wine or shot of liqour every once and a while.
The more true to life and likely to happen question would be this: "would you want the pilot of the airliner you are on to be drinking it up/has just recently drank flying you around?"
No denying that any and all drugs slow your reaction times on the road.
Simple solution to a simple problem: Stay in one f'in place you moron! ;)
-SW
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They (the anti-drug people) pose these questions all of the time. Ironically, these same anti-drug people have a beer or glass of wine or shot of liqour every once and a while
Does the word "Straight Edge" ring a bell with you wulf?
I have only tasted the discusting waste of money (beer) 1 time in my entire life. I have never EVER taken use to any illegal drugs. Along with these I have never drank whine, nor smoked a cigerette.
Id rather save my money instead of lighting it up, or drinking it away...
Simple solution to a simple problem: Stay in one f'in place you moron!
Are you trying to reflect upon what one should do if taking drugs? Or trying to humoroulsy imply that this is what I should do. IF it is the latter please re-read up.
Im sorry but drugs cloud the mind, and like you even said inhibit your ability to react within normal times.
After all the negitives that have been spoken of Drugs, how could you continue to support them?
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Does the word "Straight Edge" ring a bell with you wulf?
Yes, that word is synonamous with "mis-informed".
If you don't do drugs, or have only done one once... please do not insist you need to comment on what me and my friend's do.. and other people do.
I know a straight-edge, and she likes to hang out with me and my friend's all the time.
"I have only tasted the discusting waste of money (beer) 1 time in my entire life. I have never EVER taken use to any illegal drugs. Along with these I have never drank whine, nor smoked a cigerette.
Id rather save my money instead of lighting it up, or drinking it away... "
That's your choice. I don't insist that you shouldn't waste your time in church because I'm not religious. See the relation?
Are you trying to reflect upon what one should do if taking drugs?
Yes
Im sorry but drugs cloud the mind, and like you even said inhibit your ability to react within normal times.
That's the intention.
After all the negitives that have been spoken of Drugs, how could you continue to support them?
Yes, most of these negatives are countered in ASAP classes you are sent to if you get arrested.
Most of the things people regard as facts to many drugs are fiction and nothing more than misnomers intended to scare the public.
I don't support drugs, but I won't condone someone for doing them. The only drug I support is for the legalization of marijuana. Alchohol and Cigarettes are legal, and should remain so.
In the end it's up to you want you want to do. You can't preach to someone else what's right or what's wrong. What's good and what's bad. People have to find out for themselves, and if you have children that run into drugs... you shouldn't sit there and scold them or punish them for that, it's more intelligent and produces a better outcome if you sit there and inform them about drugs with facts and not fiction that you hear at the local wherever.
-SW
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So it isn't modelled then?
(Unless you are on drugs, in which case it probably is - or isn't, or does it depend on your preference? Oh forget it).
TTFN
snafu :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by snafu:
So it isn't modelled then?
TTFN
snafu
Don't believe so. If it is, they've done a good job of hiding it. ;)
-SW
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this was the biggest differentce between flying IRL and flying in AH for me (aside from obvious tactile differences)
not specifically the turbulence of other aircraft,but turnbulence in general.
in aces high to fly level you go straight as an arrow
irl there are tiny little twitches. kind of like when when you are driving straight on a road you ar emoving the wheel ever so slightly. its the same kind of thing, but pc joysticks dont have thr right force feedback or range of throw to model this type of thing correctly.
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I think there is no turbulance from other A/C.
As Zigrat said, there is no turbulance at all. When there are small clouds and other air pockets around, you bounce around a lot.
In AH, we can use the clouds to really have fun games of Cat and Mouse, but I think in real-life storm clouds the bouncing around would make you too shook up or too sick to fight.
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irl there are tiny little twitches. kind of like when when you are driving straight on a road you ar emoving the wheel ever so slightly. its the same kind of thing, but pc joysticks dont have thr right force feedback or range of throw to model this type of thing correctly.
I know what your sayin zig... and I also know of a sim that has that hitting the air airpocket "feel"
xplane has it..
Gee lets see someone start argueing now though... Gee i wonder who it will be... Wait.. just wait.. lets see for our selves
Take it away........
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Midnight, the "bounce" in clouds is a lot less on a small airplane than it is on a large airliner that you might be accustomed to flying. It's really small, and fairly insignificant (easy to correct if it is a big bounce)...
I would have to say the bigger bounces wouldn't be air turbulance at all, but the thermals from the ground. Ex: When you fly underneath a cloud, you'll notice a sudden drop then when you come out the other side you get a boost in lift, which is no doubt from getting above a thermal again.
-SW
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Here's an idea for ya guys: use the over-speed shake for both stalls and slight turbulence. HTC could stick that in as a place holder until they developed better turbulence effects. Plus you'd get the shudder from a stall, but it would be a visual cue instead of a stick-feel cue.
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shit! drugs are everwhere,
all forms including most medical drugs cause you harm in one form or another.
it all boils down to choice or the lack of it.
I have to take pain killers because of nerve damage to my hips and back.Now true these drugs do not do my system a lot of good but when i use them im able to perform the usual life functions (most of the time :) )
now cannabis is used in a similar way.If you feel a need to forget your worries you can smoke it, the worries dont go away and they will be there after the effects wear off but hell you get a break and if thats what you need then good luck to ya, smoke a joint!.
What i dispair at is the use of this drug by youngsters still in school.how can they learn anything with clouded brains?
lets face it drugs are here,they cause harm,you can use em too much and diddly yourself up true but some use them for good reasons.Until you suffer from some ailment or other and discover that a certain drug helps you im afraid you simply cant comment.
I dont recommend using any drug but i dont deny anyone else their right to use em either.
SW you say you've had different forms of drugs so i assume you know what i mean.Its overuse that generally diddlys people up.
alchohol,cigerettes etc are all bad for us and kill millions but no one forces us to take them, true its socially acceptable so we all take the blame for the encouragement of their use but it still boils down to free choice.SW i kinda liked what you said here which is most unusual :)
just a footnote to deez:
there are theories that mankind developed our massive brainpower through the accidental consumption of halucenagenic mushrooms and or certain bacteria in food that mutated our evolution and created those very first 'thoughts' and 'ideas'.
on a lighter note:When you think about it whos to say that those drugs that are naturally produced all around the world werent SUPPOSED to be used by us? the trees make fruit for animals to spread seeds so maybe they make marujuana to keep us from chopping down trees? :D LOL
I sure dont do much when i smoke it ;)
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You are totally correct Hazed.
Especially this:
"Its overuse that generally diddlys people up.
alchohol,cigerettes etc are all bad for us and kill millions but no one forces us to take them, true its socially acceptable so we all take the blame for the encouragement of their use but it still boils down to free choice."
I've seen overuse/abuse of alchohol take someone's life who was very, very close to me.
You said it perfectly too Hazed, drugs are simply a temporary break from reality. As long as you use it, but don't abuse it, you will be fine.
You can't live your life in an alchoholic haze, so why on earth would anyone want to do it on any other drug? (generally speaking)
S! Hazed, you said it very well.
-SW