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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: gwano on August 14, 2008, 02:40:12 PM
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I guess the IOC only checks for banned substances and leaves age verification up to the individual countries participating.
thats like leaving the wolves to watch the sheep.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080814/ap_on_sp_ol/oly_gym_underage_chinese
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Does the IOC have any credability left?
No.
Picking China as the host country is another indication of that. If North Korea promised to pony up the potential revenue they would be in the running.
This just reminds me how FU Athens was last time around, remember that?
The US women's team choked, for sure, but what if the Chinese had to actually run women athletes as well instead of the Hello Kitty set? Might have been a lot closer.
Even makes you start to wonder about that GI bug that hit the US swimmers. Probably just a natural travel thing, but their lack of ethics (the Chinese) opens the door for doubt.
Charon
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No.
Picking China as the host country is another indication of that. If North Korea promised to pony up the potential revenue they would be in the running.
This just reminds me how FU Athens was last time around, remember that?
The US women's team choked, for sure, but what if the Chinese had to actually run women athletes as well instead of the Hello Kitty set? Might have been a lot closer.
Even makes you start to wonder about that GI bug that hit the US swimmers. Probably just a natural travel thing, but thier lack of ethics (the Chinese) opens the door for doubt.
Charon
absolutely agree with you. I think the chinese are so desperate for a "World Class Showing" that they will do anything to achieve their goals.
even leaves the door open for the volleyball coaches father and mother knifing maybe being organized.
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You know when I was watching that womens gymnastics match I thought that they looked awfully young, but just chalked it up to the Chinese just being naturally small, but now I don't know, I'm sure that the Chinese government would fake passports to get these girls on the Olympic team.
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even leaves the door open for the volleyball coaches father and mother knifing maybe being organized
I wouldn't put it past them in spirit, but that reflects poorly on their "harmony" pitch so probably not.
What tools though. They're so used to having people not dare question anything, I bet they are surprised this is even an issue. With the IOC that was a safe bet, but the western scandal media is another story. Probably didn't even bother to Google to see what type of digital paper trail was out there on the little ones.
charon
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I don't know what you guys are talking about
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That picture's hilarious.
Anyway, the IOC and Noble Prize Committee has lost credibility years ago. To merely accept an athlete's passport at face value for age is riwhoopeediculous. And with this wrestling fiasco?
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MSNBC is about to do a story about this issue when they come back from break.
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No.
After Utah? no, After China? No. The Balco investigation didn't start with Bond's. It started with track and field. The IOC is nothing but a bunch of out of work politicians working on a new slush fund. Credibility?
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Anyway, the IOC and Noble Prize Committee has lost credibility years ago. To merely accept an athlete's passport at face value for age is riwhoopeediculous. And with this wrestling fiasco?
There was also another refs bad call that cost the Brazil's mens volleyball team a shot at a medal today, they were playing against Russia and a ref had made an extremely bad call about a ball being out of bounds, the announcers just couldn't believe how this ref could have called the ball out when it was about 3ft in, this call cost Brazil a 3pt swing due to the bad call and when a player on Brazils team was issued a yellow card for arguing the call which also gave Russia a point. Russia ended up winning the match over the favored Brazil team and that call had alot to do with it by costing them that round. Like I said the announcers where just dumbstruck that a line judge could miss a call by that much, they spent alot of time during the rest of the match talking about it, and how it could end up costing them the match by losing that round due to the bad call, which it did.
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I haven't watched 1 minute of the olympics. None what so ever...and won't....It's all a joke. China even HAVING the olympics is a joke. All the B.S. cheating and the judges...no. Where are the outcrys and what nots form the oh so PC crowd,,,,why didn't the U.S. boycott he olympics from the moment the world KNEW china was getting them. For all the do gooders in the world....who seem to want to be all over the world prmoting KumBaYa politics....The silence is deafening.
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dude... lighten up.
Swimming, Mens Basketball, and Womens Volleyball are worth it. Watch these if you really hate the Chinese, you won't see them there racking up Gold :aok
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dude... lighten up.
Swimming, Mens Basketball, and Womens Volleyball are worth it. Watch these if you really hate the Chinese, you won't see them there racking up Gold :aok
Mens Basketball? NBA stars? Professional athletes. I can watch the NBA for that. Beating up on 6 ft guys that couldnt beat alot of US womens teams isn't exciting.
I see your point....I don't hate the chinese....its not that. I don't think we should even be there. The IOC even letting china be considered much less awarding them the olympics is just imho wrong. The countries rep. and what they do imho doesn't cut the mustard for being the host country for such an event.
There are MANY other places that could do it. And , do it better. It's become a specticle....One I don't care anything about watching.
Sry...for the hijack....Im out.
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absolutely agree with you. I think the chinese are so desperate for a "World Class Showing" that they will do anything to achieve their goals.
I was just talking ot my mother about this
Based on how Rah rah NBC has been with its almost constant pro China rhetoric (propaganda)
It wouldnt surprise me to find out they bought NBC's support.
Has anyone else noticed how Pro China NBC has been?
I mean I can understand them being polite about China. But the way NBC is presenting the country more closely resembles people tripping over themselves trying to kiss someones arse
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dude... lighten up.
Swimming, Mens Basketball, and Womens Volleyball are worth it. Watch these if you really hate the Chinese, you won't see them there racking up Gold :aok
I don't hate the chinese. I dislike the chinese political system.
Per capita, were absolutely trouncing them from a medal count standpoint.
on a Per capita basis they should finish with 4 times our medal count. That wont happen. So the communist olympic machine fails again.
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I haven't watched 1 minute of the olympics. None what so ever...and won't....It's all a joke. China even HAVING the olympics is a joke. All the B.S. cheating and the judges...no. Where are the outcrys and what nots form the oh so PC crowd,,,,why didn't the U.S. boycott he olympics from the moment the world KNEW china was getting them. For all the do gooders in the world....who seem to want to be all over the world prmoting KumBaYa politics....The silence is deafening.
Ditto. I refuse to watch a second of it.
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I was just talking ot my mother about this
Based on how Rah rah NBC has been with its almost constant pro China rhetoric (propaganda)
It wouldnt surprise me to find out they bought NBC's support.
Has anyone else noticed how Pro China NBC has been?
I mean I can understand them being polite about China. But the way NBC is presenting the country more closely resembles people tripping over themselves trying to kiss someones arse
It wouln't suprise me if the chinese government told all of the media (not just NBC)that you will be broadcasting everything in a positive way or you will not be broadcasting anything. A closed society definately has that ability. Everything can and will be controlled if it reflects china in a poor light.
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It wouln't suprise me if the chinese government told all of the media (not just NBC)that you will be broadcasting everything in a positive way or you will not be broadcasting anything. A closed society definately has that ability. Everything can and will be controlled if it reflects china in a poor light.
I'm not to sure about that, it's not China that controls the Olympics, it's still the IOC, China is just the host country.
For those of you that have expressed displease with the IOC's choice of having it held in China this year, the IOC has stated that one of the main factors in there choice to have it held there is the fact that China has something like 1.3 billion people living there, and they said that they felt it was a good way to get alot of people(almost 1/6 the globes total pop.) interested in the Olympics.
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It wouln't suprise me if the chinese government told all of the media (not just NBC)that you will be broadcasting everything in a positive way or you will not be broadcasting anything. A closed society definately has that ability. Everything can and will be controlled if it reflects china in a poor light.
Yup a BBC report got arrested yesterday trying to cover a free-tibet protest.
The olympics have reached an all time low imho.
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I'm not to sure about that, it's not China that controls the Olympics, it's still the IOC, China is just the host country.
For those of you that have expressed displease with the IOC's choice of having it held in China this year, the IOC has stated that one of the main factors in there choice to have it held there is the fact that China has something like 1.3 billion people living there, and they said that they felt it was a good way to get alot of people(almost 1/6 the globes total pop.) interested in the Olympics.
I guarantee you that the IOC does not control China or its media control.
China controls the media that reports the olympics and all other news sources.
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I guarantee you that the IOC does not control China or its media control.
China controls the media that reports the olympics and all other news sources.
Yeah, the media that airs in China, all media in China is state run, but they don't control NBC, or what NBC airs while at the Olympics.
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Yeah, the media that airs in China, all media in China is state run, but they don't control NBC, or what NBC airs while at the Olympics.
Do you really think the Chinese cannot suddenly "lose power" to a transmittor? While China might not OPENLY admit to being in control, they control all of the power grids and everything else that these stations use to transmit. I know it sounds like a tinfoil-hat theory, but then again, it IS china we're talking about.
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I think choosing China was a good thing. It has forced the regime to open up more than it was before and for a few weeks atleast the poor buggers that has to live in Beijing has abit better air to breathe. If the IOC shal be political is another story, but so far it has brought mostly good things to the people of China. Going to be interesting to see how things will be there a year after the games have finished though.
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I haven't watched 1 minute of the olympics. None what so ever...and won't....It's all a joke. China even HAVING the olympics is a joke. All the B.S. cheating and the judges...no. Where are the outcrys and what nots form the oh so PC crowd,,,,why didn't the U.S. boycott he olympics from the moment the world KNEW china was getting them. For all the do gooders in the world....who seem to want to be all over the world prmoting KumBaYa politics....The silence is deafening.
The Olympics are supposed to be about the athletes. Not politics.
The games are supposed to transcend political differences.
As I've stated in another thread. Im against any boycott. For that reason.
Plus If you want to inject any kind of political reasoning into it. There is the ages old mindset of pitting my best against my enemies best.
Im old enough to remember even when I was a small child. the big goal at the olympics was to do better then the Soviets.
That was the primary goal.
Before my time it was Nazi Germany (There seemed to be a little known fight between Joe Louis vs. Max Schmeling that attracted some attention)
Having the olympics in China has two side benifits. It forces that area to be a little more open to the world. Thus exposing its people to a free people.
And what better thing then to kick the arse of your enemy in his own house
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LOL... you guys are funny.
These may be some of the least controversial games ever. I dare you to name an olympics without some kind of scandal or issue. Go ahead... start in 1896 I'll wait.
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LOL... you guys are funny.
These may be some of the least controversial games ever. I dare you to name an olympics without some kind of scandal or issue. Go ahead... start in 1896 I'll wait.
Fill men in on how the games at Lillehammer in 1994 was more more controversial and what scandals there were.
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Fill men in on how the games at Lillehammer in 1994 was more more controversial and what scandals there were.
Are you kidding... Lillehammer had one of the best scandals ever.
Tonya Harding - Nancy Kerrigan - Whack on the knee - shoelace malfunction.. scandalous!
I never said Lillehammer was more controversial, just that every games had something.
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The thing that is sticking with me is the standard of Judging- Gymnastics- look at some of the scores there, I'm convinced some judges are doing something they shouldn't be...
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Do you really think the Chinese cannot suddenly "lose power" to a transmittor? While China might not OPENLY admit to being in control, they control all of the power grids and everything else that these stations use to transmit. I know it sounds like a tinfoil-hat theory, but then again, it IS china we're talking about.
Well sure they could cut power to an area if they wanted, but as you stated, it is a little tin foil hat for me, plus once the power came back they'd still report what they were going too, they can't keep the power off forever. There are who knows how many different news outlets from around the world reporting from the Olympics and I think the Chinese would be hard pressed to censor anything that those news agencies want to report, if they want to say or show something their going to. Now the Chinese media will only report and show what the government wants to show.
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I think choosing China was a good thing. It has forced the regime to open up more than it was before and for a few weeks atleast the poor buggers that has to live in Beijing has abit better air to breathe. If the IOC shal be political is another story, but so far it has brought mostly good things to the people of China. Going to be interesting to see how things will be there a year after the games have finished though.
This.
You think all the Beijing citizens are going to like their city quite as much now that they've seen it without all the smog? There's going to be some change in China, thanks to the Olympics.