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Title: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Mustaine on August 14, 2008, 05:00:06 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1045030/Video-Georgian-TV-reporter-shot-Russian-sniper-live-broadcast-carries-report-bleeding-arm.html


this chick takes either a fragment, or a richoet into the arm and keeps reporting  :O

thats a tough chick lol.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: 33Vortex on August 14, 2008, 05:02:29 PM
From the wound it looks like the bullet just streaked by her left wrist, she was lucky. Probably a long range shot from a russian sniper who recognized her and took the opportunity.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Cthulhu on August 14, 2008, 05:11:35 PM
That's one upside to modern real-time combat reporting. Your chances of actually getting to shoot someone in the media are greatly increased.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Hangtime on August 14, 2008, 05:20:05 PM
That's one upside to modern real-time combat reporting. Your chances of actually getting to shoot someone in the media are greatly increased.

LOL!


..true, dat. ;)
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Buzzard7 on August 14, 2008, 05:56:38 PM
She wasn't moving a whole lot either. Sniper was either a very poor marksman or it was a richochet.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: FrodeMk3 on August 14, 2008, 06:04:36 PM
That's one upside to modern real-time combat reporting. Your chances of actually getting to shoot someone in the media are greatly increased.

If they wanna shoot a reporter, they ought to start in the FOX news room... :rofl
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Rino on August 14, 2008, 06:05:01 PM
     Reading the report, apparently the sniper fired 5 times.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yossarian on August 14, 2008, 07:57:58 PM
That's one upside to modern real-time combat reporting. Your chances of actually getting to shoot someone in the media are greatly increased.

Tard

LOL!


..true, dat. ;)

Tard

If they wanna shoot a reporter, they ought to start in the FOX news room... :rofl

Tard

I really hope that you people don't think that shooting someone is such a minor thing that it should be laughed at.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: PhantomBarron on August 14, 2008, 08:12:51 PM
Fox is the only news I watch. Fair and Ballanced. That reporter was a true professional
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: boxboy28 on August 14, 2008, 11:19:14 PM
i think it was boroda with a quart of vodka trying to say hello to her.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: 33Vortex on August 14, 2008, 11:22:15 PM
She wasn't moving a whole lot either. Sniper was either a very poor marksman or it was a richochet.


Don't forget that the bullet was fired from a russian rifle.  ;)
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Elfie on August 14, 2008, 11:49:53 PM
i think it was boroda with a quart of vodka trying to say hello to her.

No....Boroda thinks those people are vermin, and rabid dogs.


/tease Boroda   :D
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: -aper- on August 15, 2008, 01:27:32 AM
     Reading the report, apparently the sniper fired 5 times.

WOW - five shots made by a sniper and nobody ran for cover or tried to hide from fire instead of standing on the road ???

Pathetic fake

P.S. I don't like the girl either :)
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Serenity on August 15, 2008, 02:05:28 AM
WOW - five shots made by a sniper and nobody ran for cover or tried to hide from fire instead of standing on the road ???

Pathetic fake

P.S. I don't like the girl either :)

I will say, it does look like a fake. Ive seen videos of people being shot before. Ive been shot by a paintball gun, and I certainly react a LOT more than this woman. Notice two things: She gets hit by SOMETHING and simply SLOWLY staggers to the side. Next, you don't see any sign of a wound until quite a bit later, when she is safely sitting in the car seemingly ignoring all pain whatsoever. That was NOT a bullet. It wasn't a fragment or a ricochet. If you got hit with anything like that, you would JUMP or show some sign of SURPRISE not just stagger to one side, and walk back to the middle of the shot.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: moot on August 15, 2008, 03:03:07 AM
Tard

Tard

Tard

I really hope that you people don't think that shooting someone is such a minor thing that it should be laughed at.
Over your head, KID.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Fishu on August 15, 2008, 09:23:13 AM
I will say, it does look like a fake. Ive seen videos of people being shot before. Ive been shot by a paintball gun, and I certainly react a LOT more than this woman. Notice two things: She gets hit by SOMETHING and simply SLOWLY staggers to the side. Next, you don't see any sign of a wound until quite a bit later, when she is safely sitting in the car seemingly ignoring all pain whatsoever. That was NOT a bullet. It wasn't a fragment or a ricochet. If you got hit with anything like that, you would JUMP or show some sign of SURPRISE not just stagger to one side, and walk back to the middle of the shot.

My first reaction to this video was that it just doesn't seem "right". However, getting hit by a paintball shot and a real bullet are two different things - you WILL feel the paintball hit, but you don't immediately feel a bullet hit due to the shock impact caused by the velocity. A scratch will be felt sooner than a direct hit and depending on where's hit (the more nerves messed up, the more it'll hurt. Most of the nerves are on the skin, but not so much or at all in the internal organs)
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: lazs2 on August 15, 2008, 09:25:56 AM
Much as I would like to believe that reporters are now fair game....

reporters are such liars that I am sure it was faked.    If anyone deserves a bullet in a war it is the modern day reporter.

lazs
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yeager on August 15, 2008, 10:19:09 AM
If anyone deserves a bullet in a war it is the modern day reporter.

lazs
jeeze.....of all the stupid things I have read here lately  :lol
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: crockett on August 15, 2008, 10:32:58 AM
If they wanna shoot a reporter, they ought to start in the FOX news room... :rofl

+1

btw here is another one where a Russian soldier pulls a gun on a reporter. Seems Russians must be hard up for troops if they have grandpa out there fighting the war..

http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART1/773/922.html
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Cthulhu on August 15, 2008, 11:02:37 AM
Over your head, KID.
Thx m00t, that's putting it mildly. Geez, make a tongue-in-cheek comment on any subject remotely controversial and you're guaranteed to provoke a response from the hand-wringing, heart-bleeding, knee-jerking perpetually offended. Whatever. To the rest of you guys (on both sides of the political fence) I hope you got a good laugh. :salute
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: angelsandair on August 15, 2008, 11:08:55 AM
From the wound it looks like the bullet just streaked by her left wrist, she was lucky. Probably a long range shot from a russian sniper who recognized her and took the opportunity.

Yea, from what I understand, the Russians are actually SHOOTING people from the Media. From what I heard recently, they found a group of people with the media, and shot em. That's whats been going around atleast.

If they wanna shoot a reporter, they ought to start in the FOX news room... :rofl

Not before they get CNN, NBC, CBS, ABC....
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Jackal1 on August 15, 2008, 01:00:30 PM
Ive been shot by a paintball gun

And there you have it.  :rofl :lol
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: mg1942 on August 15, 2008, 07:10:33 PM
this one's downright scary...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFRiHbFEtg&feature=related
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Motherland on August 15, 2008, 07:26:19 PM
Yea, from what I understand, the Russians are actually SHOOTING people from the Media. From what I heard recently, they found a group of people with the media, and shot em. That's whats been going around atleast.
Keep in mind this is the Georgia STATE (meaning government sponsered and controlled) television. Georgia being a country that probably desperately wants military aid from the west after they apparently underestimated what the Russian response would be. To be perfectly honest, I would be no where near surprised if this was either staged or it was a Georgian shooting at her.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Elfie on August 15, 2008, 07:26:41 PM
this one's downright scary...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFRiHbFEtg&feature=related


That one has been posted before, and yes it is scary.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: bj229r on August 15, 2008, 08:53:26 PM
A Russian sniper would know better than to shoot a western reporterette, he would know that said reporterette would be blaming this mess on Bush and Georgia...ya can't buy that sort of publicity
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Serenity on August 15, 2008, 09:37:47 PM
My first reaction to this video was that it just doesn't seem "right". However, getting hit by a paintball shot and a real bullet are two different things - you WILL feel the paintball hit, but you don't immediately feel a bullet hit due to the shock impact caused by the velocity. A scratch will be felt sooner than a direct hit and depending on where's hit (the more nerves messed up, the more it'll hurt. Most of the nerves are on the skin, but not so much or at all in the internal organs)

The pain might not be felt right away, but she seems to have almost no reaction. So, either she got hit and GROSSLY over-exagerated with that step, or faked the whole thing. Either way, something is DEFINATELY not right.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: FrodeMk3 on August 16, 2008, 01:09:26 AM
Tard

Tard

Tard

I really hope that you people don't think that shooting someone is such a minor thing that it should be laughed at.


Let me put my little barb in a context you can understand.

One reporter is shot in a warzone. Ok.

How many people get killed, or incited to kill, due to Yellow/jingoistic journalism? I'll clue you in on this. Entire WARS have been started by slanted journalists/reporters. Funny that someone gets' shot? In some cases justice. Just look at the way the reporting has been done on the Russian side of this mess. Look in Boroda's Ossetian thread, He's got a whole bunch of Russian news' threads that are little more than propaganda inciting the Russian people to justify their actions.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Elfie on August 16, 2008, 03:32:55 AM
Quote
Look in Boroda's Ossetian thread, He's got a whole bunch of Russian news' threads that are little more than propaganda inciting the Russian people to justify their actions.

Oh now you've done it. Now Boroda will be in this thread spewing Russian propaganda.  :uhoh

Thanks alot pal!



 :D

Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Slash27 on August 16, 2008, 04:23:49 AM
The pain might not be felt right away, but she seems to have almost no reaction. So, either she got hit and GROSSLY over-exagerated with that step, or faked the whole thing. Either way, something is DEFINATELY not right.


How the hell do you over ex agerate being shot?
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on August 16, 2008, 04:43:19 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSFRiHbFEtg&feature=related

Real

This lady, not so sure.

Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: BaDkaRmA158Th on August 16, 2008, 04:47:48 AM
And then in the end (3:20) that soldier has the audacity to KICK that man to the ground because he is holding a camera showing one soldiers/nations SHAME.

I counted 5 bullet holes in the windshield if not by the grace of god or any spirit up above that driveer should have been dead, i counted two shots directly above his skull alone.





Your soldiers need a real kick in the pants, i await response boroda & ruissian.

Please tell me how a group of reporter's could come under fire, SCREAM for medical aid OVER AND OVER and be PUSHED away from the combat scene. Russian peace keepers my arse, show me one medic, show me one soldier there who gave a damn about anyone but them selfs. Sure as heck those are not american soldiers.

SHAME
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: myelo on August 16, 2008, 07:14:20 AM
How the hell do you over ex agerate being shot?

Errrr, unless you've been shot with a paintball gun I really don't think you should be questioning him. HE'S BEEN THERE, MAN!
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: mensa180 on August 16, 2008, 08:50:31 AM
Errrr, unless you've been shot with a paintball gun I really don't think you should be questioning him. HE'S BEEN THERE, MAN!

ROFL!
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Boroda on August 16, 2008, 09:16:08 AM
And then in the end (3:20) that soldier has the audacity to KICK that man to the ground because he is holding a camera showing one soldiers/nations SHAME.

I counted 5 bullet holes in the windshield if not by the grace of god or any spirit up above that driveer should have been dead, i counted two shots directly above his skull alone.





Your soldiers need a real kick in the pants, i await response boroda & ruissian.

Please tell me how a group of reporter's could come under fire, SCREAM for medical aid OVER AND OVER and be PUSHED away from the combat scene. Russian peace keepers my arse, show me one medic, show me one soldier there who gave a damn about anyone but them selfs. Sure as heck those are not american soldiers.

SHAME


How do you know these are Russian soldiers? They scream in Russian with heavy Georgian accent, I hope it's not a secret that 90% of Georgians speak Russian and some of them even don't know Georgian language at all. Read the comments, it's obvious.

It's not Russian side now setting up ambushes and shooting at civilian convoys.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: moot on August 16, 2008, 09:20:59 AM
You must be /\
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                     V  This tall to intercept the funny.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Fishu on August 16, 2008, 09:45:05 AM
How do you know these are Russian soldiers? They scream in Russian with heavy Georgian accent, I hope it's not a secret that 90% of Georgians speak Russian and some of them even don't know Georgian language at all. Read the comments, it's obvious.

It's not Russian side now setting up ambushes and shooting at civilian convoys.

You can see some of the soldiers in the video and their uniform didn't appear to be that of the georgians, a higher resolution video would be nice though. They seem to be either russians or georgians dressed up as russians. If I'd be a georgian dressed up as a russian soldier and shooting the press on purpose, I would've made sure to shoot one of the reporters in cold blood to make sure the next days headlines read "russian soldiers shot a reporter in cold blood". Other than the headlines I see no reason for georgians to dress up as russians just to shoot at civilians and the press. Apparently these soldiers weren't on a mission to make it into the headlines.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: lazs2 on August 16, 2008, 09:48:54 AM
yeager.. as has been said..  journalists have probly caused more problems...  up to and including death.. than any other group..  In a lot of cases.. lives would be saved if a reporter were killed.

lazs
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Boroda on August 16, 2008, 10:17:31 AM
You can see some of the soldiers in the video and their uniform didn't appear to be that of the georgians, a higher resolution video would be nice though. They seem to be either russians or georgians dressed up as russians. If I'd be a georgian dressed up as a russian soldier and shooting the press on purpose, I would've made sure to shoot one of the reporters in cold blood to make sure the next days headlines read "russian soldiers shot a reporter in cold blood". Other than the headlines I see no reason for georgians to dress up as russians just to shoot at civilians and the press. Apparently these soldiers weren't on a mission to make it into the headlines.


The camo can't be distinguished at all. Helmets look like US kevlar "nazi-style". Looks like stray Georgians special units trying to cross the front-line and return not to get caught.

Some Russians wear new digital camo or Western-style "woodland", some Georgians wear Russian forest camo.

Headlines is a good argument. They already got caught on staging "Russian atrocities" in Gori.

Did you see BBC report on a Russian military convoy? The reporter literally jumped on the armor or was riding the KAMAZ door, soldiers were quite friendly, and answered "we are here because we are were we are supposed to be" (meaning orders).

I agree with Lazs on attitude to journalists, but in this conflict _anyone_ attacking reporters, especially Western, will spend the rest of his career guarding some radar station on an ice island in Bering sea from white bears. I am 100% they got strict orders, and will protect journalists by all means.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: angelsandair on August 16, 2008, 11:15:02 AM

How the hell do you over ex agerate being shot?


As small as the wound was, she probably didn't feel it.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Dowding on August 16, 2008, 12:45:27 PM
BBC Boroda? I thought they were liars and fabricators.

You're so full of toejam.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Elfie on August 16, 2008, 12:53:49 PM
BBC Boroda? I thought they were liars and fabricators.

You're so full of poop.

The brown stuff is falling out his ears he is so full of it.  :rofl
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Baitman on August 16, 2008, 01:00:25 PM
Did you see BBC report on a Russian military convoy? The reporter literally jumped on the armor or was riding the KAMAZ door, soldiers were quite friendly, and answered "we are here because we are were we are supposed to be" (meaning orders).

I watched the BBC the other night and saw this coverage also. I have to agree that the soldiers apeared friendly.  :aok

Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Serenity on August 16, 2008, 01:16:26 PM
Errrr, unless you've been shot with a paintball gun I really don't think you should be questioning him. HE'S BEEN THERE, MAN!

Pull your head out of your arse and watch that video. Notice anything strange about her movements? Watch when she is supposedly shot. Now if you REALLY want me to dissect this, I can.

Her arm was FLAT against her side when the bullet hit. She staggered SLOWLY to the left. The blood appears to indicate a HORIZONTAL hit, from right of the arm to the left, extending quite a ways around her wrist. This would mean the bullet DID come from the side she staggered away from, but curved with her arm and managed to nick quite a bit of the inside of her arm, sheltered by her body. Also, since she wasn't wearing body armor when she was initially hit, why didn't the shart touch her body in any way?

Also note: Notice how many bloody cameras they have set to cover one small spot? I've seen quite a few live feeds in person (Been AT the scene where the report is taking place) and I have never seen so many cameras on tri-pods focusing on ONE spot, unless something VERY big is expected to happed there. Seems a bit odd.

And now the final "Why the f*** are they still in the streets?!?" Even the idiots, and the bravest of soldiers alike are smarter than to stand in a street when they are taking fire. Notice the calm attitudes of everyone else in the area? There are three SLIGHTLY perturbed people, and they are the reporter, and the two men attending her. Why does no one else in the area react? One guy just stands there next to another van the whole time. No one else seems to notice or care.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: dyna76 on August 16, 2008, 01:16:58 PM
 :furious:..........should of been a head shot............ :devil
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: bozon on August 16, 2008, 03:03:19 PM
1942:
"Men, we are about to make history, or become history"

2008:
"Men, we are going to report the news, or become the news"

Thousands of people were killed. Who gives a **** about a reporter getting hit? Yet, it is all over the news because reporters are not just people - the are the MEDIA, the elite, the selected few who go out there to report a little truth and provide a lot of entertainment for those not affected by the war.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Boroda on August 16, 2008, 04:21:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvsqdSLyog0

FOX reporter Steve Harrigan reports being fired at.

Now argue with this. Tell me Russians staged THIS.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Hangtime on August 16, 2008, 04:32:17 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvsqdSLyog0

FOX reporter Steve Harrigan reports being fired at.

Now argue with this. Tell me Russians staged THIS.

Harrigan would have a hard time identifying (and convincing anybody here) his own turd stripes after wiping his own bellybutton in Atlanta. Got any footage that didn't involve him running like the outta shape pussie he is? Like maybe footage of the folks that panicked him?

Keep trying, Boroda.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Boroda on August 16, 2008, 04:58:12 PM
Harrigan would have a hard time identifying (and convincing anybody here) his own turd stripes after wiping his own bellybutton in Atlanta. Got any footage that didn't involve him running like the outta shape pussie he is? Like maybe footage of the folks that panicked him?

Keep trying, Boroda.

You deny what your own Free Media (tm) journalist said!? Looks like without Russians he was following we could get another report of "innocent American journalist killed by evil eating-babies-for-breakfast Russians".

Hang, your opinion is not going to count here, Russians don't carpet-bomb cities full of civilians, and don't make heroes and presidental candidates from convinced war criminals who then betrayed their fellow-prisoners.

I know, it takes guts to say what Harrigan said, you guys are already worse then good old USSR regarding "freedom of speech" and "democracy".

Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: angelsandair on August 16, 2008, 05:13:54 PM
You deny what your own Free Media (tm) journalist said!? Looks like without Russians he was following we could get another report of "innocent American journalist killed by evil eating-babies-for-breakfast Russians".

Hang, your opinion is not going to count here, Russians don't carpet-bomb cities full of civilians, and don't make heroes and presidental candidates from convinced war criminals who then betrayed their fellow-prisoners.

I know, it takes guts to say what Harrigan said, you guys are already worse then good old USSR regarding "freedom of speech" and "democracy".



You're just down right retarded. Thats it. You make a point, but you are still wrong in so many aspects. You've always been wrong about Russia since you've opened your mouth.

Lets see....... which one was the best...


'In chernobyl, the people new about it right away!'

'Russia was defending it's citizens in Osetia even though Osetia is a Georgian province and the russians have been giving out citizenship to them!'

'I think Communism is great because I'm ignorant!'
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Boroda on August 16, 2008, 05:34:46 PM
[%]meaningless interaurial gangle product skipped[%]

Before expecting me to read your hallucinations please learn how much is two plus two. It should probably help you to stop being a shame to your elementary school class, but I can't promise that.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: 33Vortex on August 16, 2008, 06:04:25 PM
I would never trust a russian without knowing him very well personally, then maybe.

I speak of experience. Russians are never ashamed of playing tricks on your behalf, they'll lie to you then go tell their friends how big a fool you are. It's quite a shock to most western people when they realize just how different the russian culture is to ours.

Just my €0.02

 :salute
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Hangtime on August 16, 2008, 06:10:39 PM
You deny what your own Free Media (tm) journalist said!? Looks like without Russians he was following we could get another report of "innocent American journalist killed by evil eating-babies-for-breakfast Russians".

Yep. Harrigan a 'reputable source'? Hardly. Points out another difference between russians and americans. We recognize offal from the smell.. we don't have to taste it.

Hang, your opinion is not going to count here, Russians don't carpet-bomb cities full of civilians, and don't make heroes and presidental candidates from convinced war criminals who then betrayed their fellow-prisoners.

Shall I waste more bandwith with pictures of Grozny? Shall I waste more column space with Katyn reports? Stalins purges? Waste... that's what you generate... waste and offal.

I know, it takes guts to say what Harrigan said, you guys are already worse then good old USSR regarding "freedom of speech" and "democracy".

Guts? That whining cretin with a microphone and a camera on HIM all the time, instead of the situation? Next, you'll be telling us Geraldo is a hero... LOL!

Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Motherland on August 16, 2008, 06:16:11 PM
presidental candidates from convinced war criminals
I'm assuming you meant convicted? And that you're talking about John McCain? If so, please hold while I laugh my arse off.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Boroda on August 16, 2008, 06:35:45 PM
I'm assuming you meant convicted? And that you're talking about John McCain? If so, please hold while I laugh my arse off.

Sorry for exaggerating, but he was shot down bombing Hanoi.

And later collaborated with Vietnamese. He have even made a character in a Soviet-Vietnamese propaganda movie, Coordinates of Death, 1986. The actor even looks like him.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264766/
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: angelsandair on August 16, 2008, 06:46:06 PM
I'm assuming you meant convicted? And that you're talking about John McCain? If so, please hold while I laugh my arse off.

He doesn't know what he's talking about it.

Sorry for exaggerating, but he was shot down bombing Hanoi.

And later collaborated with Vietnamese. He have even made a character in a Soviet-Vietnamese propaganda movie, Coordinates of Death, 1986. The actor even looks like him.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0264766/

They tortured him again and again and threatened to kill him numerous times. At some point, he snapped. You dont know anything about John McCain.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Boroda on August 16, 2008, 07:00:17 PM
They tortured him again and again and threatened to kill him numerous times. At some point, he snapped. You dont know anything about John McCain.

they cured his fractures and fed him for several years. Good attitude for a mass-murderer dropping bombs on a populated city.

Instead of collaborating he had a good option to kill himself, just like you have now, not to cover himself in such a deep toejam.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Hangtime on August 16, 2008, 07:16:23 PM
He doesn't know what he's talking about it.

They tortured him again and again and threatened to kill him numerous times. At some point, he snapped. You dont know anything about John McCain.

This should be required reading for anybody considering giving McCain their vote.

He's got mine. I don't think I would have survived 5 years in their hands.

http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/01/28/john-mccain-prisoner-of-war-a-first-person-account.html?PageNr=1 (http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/2008/01/28/john-mccain-prisoner-of-war-a-first-person-account.html?PageNr=1)
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yossarian on August 16, 2008, 07:49:02 PM
Ha! I thought this place was messed up and NOW I find out there's an ardent Russian nationalist lurking out here  :lol
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Hangtime on August 16, 2008, 07:56:02 PM
Ha! I thought this place was messed up and NOW I find out there's an ardent commie lurking out here  :lol

The biggest difference between an obamacrat and a commie is the location of the training camps.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yossarian on August 16, 2008, 08:11:28 PM
And the biggest similarity between you and an idiot is the IQ.

But seriously:
a) it's spelt Obama
b) there are no training camps for either Obama supporters or Communists
c) edited my previous post so it seems slightly less silly
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: moot on August 16, 2008, 08:15:58 PM
How'd the dig into Obama's roots as an Illinois machine puppet go, Yossarian?  Those posts by Charon I suggested should have turned up a lot of leads.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yossarian on August 16, 2008, 08:16:23 PM
How'd the dig into Obama's roots as an Illinois machine puppet go, Yossarian?  Those posts by Charon I suggested should have turned up a lot of leads.

What posts?
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 16, 2008, 08:17:41 PM
they cured his fractures and fed him for several years. Good attitude for a mass-murderer dropping bombs on a populated city.

Instead of collaborating he had a good option to kill himself, just like you have now, not to cover himself in such a deep poop.

They cured his fractures?  Is that why he still walks with a limp today?  You, nor any of us, really know what he went through, save maybe the German soldiers you guys kept in the gulags 10 years after the war ended.  How many ended up coming home from the hundreds of thousands you sent to the gulags?  

Also, McCain's hair isn't white from old age, his hair went white from the shock his body endured from all the torture he suffered at the hands of the Vietnamese.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: moot on August 16, 2008, 08:23:49 PM
What posts?
Search posts by Charon with "Obama" in them.  I'd told you about this already, but you were probably too busy with the koolaid to look up the facts.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Hangtime on August 16, 2008, 08:35:20 PM
LOL!
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yossarian on August 16, 2008, 08:36:21 PM
Not so lol

Yeah, I just looked through some of the first page of Charon's posts containing the word 'Obama'....I really don't get what you're trying to tell me.  Perhaps being a bit more explicit would help.



And also, I suggest you read up on Democrats and Communists....there are not very many basic similarities.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Hangtime on August 16, 2008, 08:58:18 PM

And also, I suggest you read up on Democrats and Communists....there are not very many basic similarities.

Democrats and communists have identical reactions to exposure to the truth.... when confronted with it, they all sound like boroda.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Slash27 on August 16, 2008, 09:07:18 PM
Errrr, unless you've been shot with a paintball gun I really don't think you should be questioning him. HE'S BEEN THERE, MAN!


Thousand yard stare and all I guess. :O
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yossarian on August 16, 2008, 09:09:06 PM
Democrats and communists have identical reactions to exposure to the truth.... when confronted with it, they all sound like boroda.

I was just exposed to the truth that you seem to me like a bit of a tard.  I am not spouting tons of nationalist BS.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: moot on August 16, 2008, 09:18:07 PM

Thousand yard stare and all I guess. :O
  :rofl

Yossarian, seems to me if you can't see either the forest or the trees in Charon's posts about Obama being nothing but a vessel for the Democratic machine... You're done.  Just another lemming.  Keep arguing with Hangtime though, you're definitely going to expose him to the truths of what America's supposed to be!
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yossarian on August 16, 2008, 09:33:41 PM
  :rofl

Yossarian, seems to me if you can't see either the forest or the trees in Charon's posts about Obama being nothing but a vessel for the Democratic machine... You're done.  Just another lemming.  Keep arguing with Hangtime though, you're definitely going to expose him to the truths of what America's supposed to be!

Well, if you're right, I'm perfectly happy being a lemming.  :D

However, I support Obama largely because of his foreign policy, which I believe is what America needs at this time.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Hangtime on August 16, 2008, 09:39:34 PM
Well, if you're right, I'm perfectly happy being a lemming.  :D

However, I support Obama largely because of his foreign policy, which I believe is what America needs at this time.


foreign policy?

ROFL! The guy's breadth of experience in foreign affairs amounts to organizing a bake sale for dafur.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yossarian on August 16, 2008, 10:16:40 PM
foreign policy?

ROFL! The guy's breadth of experience in foreign affairs amounts to organizing a bake sale for dafur.

Experience isn't everything.

For all McCain's experience, he has displayed a huge amount of misunderstanding about foreign policy.  For example, referring to Czechoslovakia, not understanding the three main tribes in the Middle East, etc.

Obama by contrast, even though he is less experienced, has demonstrated that he understands these topics, and as a matter of personal preference, I believe his foreign policies to be 'better' than those of McCain.

<S>

Yossarian
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 16, 2008, 10:36:35 PM
OK then... explain his Iraq position.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Hangtime on August 16, 2008, 10:47:57 PM
Experience isn't everything.

For all McCain's experience, he has displayed a huge amount of misunderstanding about foreign policy.  For example, referring to Czechoslovakia, not understanding the three main tribes in the Middle East, etc.

Obama by contrast, even though he is less experienced, has demonstrated that he understands these topics, and as a matter of personal preference, I believe his foreign policies to be 'better' than those of McCain.

<S>

Yossarian

Youth vs Experience...

McCain paid dearly for your right to choose.. His choices for Americas path in this time of crisis were tempered by his experience in a forge your candidate can't even begin to comprehend. I believe America will have to face in her immediate future many hazards. On my ships bridge, I hope to have a captain with local knowledge of the waters this ship of state will be forced to navigate. There simply is no comparison possible with your candidate... and he will never be McCain's equal on any course that matters.

Democracy means you get to choose... as in all things you choose, a large part of who you are and what you stand for is reflected in that choice.

Choose wisely.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yossarian on August 16, 2008, 10:53:54 PM
I agree with his Iraq position.  I think that whilst Iraq was far from a good country under Saddam by any definition of 'good', it was not necessary to invade under the reasons given by Bush.  I think that the USA's resources should be focused on Afghanistan, as that is where Al Qaeda came from, and Al Qaeda has not yet been defeated (Iraq did not help Al Qaeda whilst Saddam was in power), and to do this, I think that control of Iraq should be handed over to the Iraqis.

Referring more broadly to the Middle East in general, much of the perceived dislike of America in that region is actually a resentment of the American government's foreign policies about the region, which are seen as interfering with those countries' own affairs.  With the current situation in Iraq, Islamic extremists see the USA 'meddling' in other countries' affairs, and thus their views are reinforced, which in turn helps more and more people to be recruited by organisations such as Al Qaeda.  However, if the USA is seen to take a more 'peaceful' approach to matters in the Middle East, the current resentment of the US government will undoubtedly fade, and thus terrorist organisations will find less support in the region.  Obama's foreign policy is along these lines, and this is a large factor in why I support him.

<S>

Yossarian


Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 16, 2008, 11:13:05 PM
You agree with his position that the US should have immediately withdrawn in 2006 and abandoned the country to Iran and civil war?  If he had taken control in 2006 Iraq would have been all of the disaster he wanted and more.  You can't say you agree and then cherry pick random portions that are convenient.   The point you are trying to make is his superior judgment.  Show me where he would have handled the situation better from 2006 on.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Yossarian on August 16, 2008, 11:21:32 PM
I just did a quick search on google, and pulled up this result:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/20/obama.iraq/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/11/20/obama.iraq/index.html)

It seems to me that Obama was advocating withdrawing troops then, which I agree with:

"Only through this phased redeployment can we send a clear message to the Iraqi factions that the U.S. is not going to hold together this country indefinitely -- that it will be up to them to form a viable government that can effectively run and secure Iraq," Obama said.

I cannot say what the consequences would be if his suggestions had been followed for certain, however I don't believe that the resultant situation in Iraq would have been any worse than the current one.
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: rabbidrabbit on August 16, 2008, 11:24:21 PM
Really, what do you think the current one is?  Maybe you should Google that?
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Serenity on August 16, 2008, 11:24:59 PM
You agree with his position that the US should have immediately withdrawn in 2006 and abandoned the country to Iran and civil war?  If he had taken control in 2006 Iraq would have been all of the disaster he wanted and more.  You can't say you agree and then cherry pick random portions that are convenient.   The point you are trying to make is his superior judgment.  Show me where he would have handled the situation better from 2006 on.

Agreed 100%  :aok

But lets stop the hijack here...

I notice how no one else can refute what I pointed out... All slash could do was put forth a childish insult...
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: lazs2 on August 17, 2008, 10:04:19 AM
the democrats have about shot their chance to lose in Iraq.     Even osamabama couldn't lose their now.

lazs
Title: Re: Georgian Reporter takes sniper fire to arm, continues reporting
Post by: Bronk on August 17, 2008, 10:49:25 AM
Really, what do you think the current one is?  Maybe you should Google that?
You'd need a minute by minute update ticker to keep up with his current view/policy on anything.