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Title: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: ROX on August 18, 2008, 09:01:10 PM
I take off.  Immediately all guns begin firing.  All ammo is wasted.  I'm skrewed three ways from sunday.

Reboot more times I care to remember.  Same problem.

All fine last night when I went to bed landing scalps.  Now...it's a nightmare.

Never changed a preference, never changed anything.

I hit esc and it stops....but trigger is useless.  Most ammo lost.


Total BS.





ROX


Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: Geary420 on August 18, 2008, 09:35:50 PM
Total BS.

Ever stop to think it might be your hardware??  Unplug your stick, load up the game, spawn on runway.  Does this still occur?
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: goober69 on August 18, 2008, 09:58:25 PM
yea i have had the same problem with my stick repeating comands when its been hooked up for too long just unplung and replug your stick. also check your button assignments and your drivers
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: dkff49 on August 18, 2008, 10:14:16 PM
This same thing just started for me a few days ago also. I thought it was just me since a few days before it started I changed the set up on my stick and started using the software that came with it, instead of using the in game assignments.

Maybe it is not me. I am sure it is not because my stick is plugged in too long though since I unplug everytime I am done playing.

For me it seems that hitting the enter button one time works for stopping it though but yes I still loose a goo dbit of ammo before I can get it to stop.
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: RTR on August 18, 2008, 10:30:11 PM
ROX revisit your stick mapping. Also, check that you aren't inadvertently in "mouse mode" for controllers. Hit the H key...it toggles you between mouse control and regular control.

In any event, if the quick fixes above don't solve anything, it sounds like you have a corrupted file somewhere to me.

Are you running custom sounds?

When was the last time you deleted the game and re-installed? Letting the auto updater install patch after patch after patch isn't always a good idea. I delete and reinstall the game every 6 months or so. It gets rid of small buggy problems for me.

Hope some of this helps.

cheers,
RTR
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 18, 2008, 11:41:51 PM
I take off.  Immediately all guns begin firing.  All ammo is wasted.  I'm skrewed three ways from sunday.

Reboot more times I care to remember.  Same problem.

All fine last night when I went to bed landing scalps.  Now...it's a nightmare.

Never changed a preference, never changed anything.

I hit esc and it stops....but trigger is useless.  Most ammo lost.


Total BS.





ROX




1) Trigger button switch dead

or

2) Profile either misprogrammed or corrupt

or

3) Improper calibration



ack-ack
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: yanksfan on August 19, 2008, 02:42:00 AM
sounds like a stick problem, try remaping your weapons to another button and see what happens.
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: ImADot on August 19, 2008, 08:38:01 AM
sticky mouse button or keyboard key?  Did you spill soda on your keyboard lately?
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: dkff49 on August 19, 2008, 08:50:57 AM
if it was a sticky button why would the esc or enter button change anything
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: ROX on August 19, 2008, 10:54:25 AM
Hello, and BTW:  THANK YOU all for all the replies!   :salute

Geary:  I unplug my joistick and it does not fire.  All it thinks I have is a mouse.  I used to fly this way for years.

When I plug my stick back in and restart--it recognizes the stick.  I start up and the guns all start firing and wasting ammo just like before.  I hit the "esc" key and it stops (after wasting ammo)...but the main trigger dosent work.

I went to all default button settings and it still does it.

I went in and re-set joystick buttons 0 and 1 to global fire all.

Rebooted...same deal...just starts shooting.

I have never heard of the "reinstall AH every 6 months" thing.  You'd think that would be posted as a reminder on the home page or something.

I'm still unresolved here, but again, I VERY much appreciate your help...you are probably helping others as well!   :aok





ROX
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: ROX on August 19, 2008, 10:59:49 AM
sticky mouse button or keyboard key?  Did you spill soda on your keyboard lately?


No spills, no chills. 

No runs, no hits, no errors...nobody left.

It's just the 2 problems...it starts immediately firing on takeoff and the main trigger fails to respond.






ROX
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: dkff49 on August 19, 2008, 11:06:58 AM
Hello, and BTW:  THANK YOU all for all the replies!   :salute

Geary:  I unplug my joistick and it does not fire.  All it thinks I have is a mouse.  I used to fly this way for years.

When I plug my stick back in and restart--it recognizes the stick.  I start up and the guns all start firing and wasting ammo just like before.  I hit the "esc" key and it stops (after wasting ammo)...but the main trigger dosent work.

I went to all default button settings and it still does it.

I went in and re-set joystick buttons 0 and 1 to global fire all.

Rebooted...same deal...just starts shooting.

I have never heard of the "reinstall AH every 6 months" thing.  You'd think that would be posted as a reminder on the home page or something.

I'm still unresolved here, but again, I VERY much appreciate your help...you are probably helping others as well!   :aok





ROX

I am not an expert but did you try re-installing the drivers?

Sounds like some sort of software issue here. Maybe the drivers have become corrupt
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: The Fugitive on August 19, 2008, 11:12:36 AM
Sounds like your trigger switch is broke. Go into the game controllers in your control panel and test it there. The trigger, being one of the main buttons should be in the test window. See if it is always on.
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: ROX on August 19, 2008, 11:28:33 AM
Sounds like your trigger switch is broke. Go into the game controllers in your control panel and test it there. The trigger, being one of the main buttons should be in the test window. See if it is always on.

Yes...lit up red all the time....


Re-download tha game or get a new joystick?

BTW: Joystick is Saitek ST290 from Walmart--had no software or drivers included in the box when purchased.





ROX

Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: RTR on August 19, 2008, 11:37:56 AM
Unmap the trigger on your joystick. map your guns to some other button. Sounds like a joystick issue, so redownloading the gam ewon't fix this. you will need to remap in game.

cheers,
RTR
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: dkff49 on August 19, 2008, 11:42:13 AM
Yes...lit up red all the time....


Re-download tha game or get a new joystick?

BTW: Joystick is Saitek ST290 from Walmart--had no software or drivers included in the box when purchased.






ROX



I believe the drivers are installed when you plug in the stick. To re-install them you would need to go into control panel and go into device manager. Then pull up properties for your joystick, click the drivers tab then click uninstall. After it completes the uninstall then plug your stick back in, your drivers will be installed automatically.
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: The Fugitive on August 19, 2008, 12:11:58 PM
if its on all the time its broken. Only work around is to remap the guns to a different button on the joystick like RTR said. Time for a new stick !
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: dkff49 on August 19, 2008, 12:24:19 PM
if its on all the time its broken. Only work around is to remap the guns to a different button on the joystick like RTR said. Time for a new stick !

just wonder Fugitive why hitting the esc would stop the firing, as Rox stated. If it is indeed a stuck button.

Really I am just asking
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: The Fugitive on August 19, 2008, 06:08:10 PM
maybe hitting the ESC key breaks the loop and shuts down the error. Resetting the stick/usb port most likely would restart the continual firering again. I'd think if after hitting the ESC key, if he unplugged and replugged the stick....as long as it USB if it would reset and be messed up again.

Then again, if its NOT a USB, I don't know why hitting ESC would reset the loop in a sound card. hmmmm interesting
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: dkff49 on August 19, 2008, 06:18:51 PM
maybe hitting the ESC key breaks the loop and shuts down the error. Resetting the stick/usb port most likely would restart the continual firering again. I'd think if after hitting the ESC key, if he unplugged and replugged the stick....as long as it USB if it would reset and be messed up again.

Then again, if its NOT a USB, I don't know why hitting ESC would reset the loop in a sound card. hmmmm interesting

ok thanks Fugitive, I just thought that the software would still see the stuck key as being held in, thus continue firing.

(shrugs shoulders) guess that is what I get for thinking of this in a mechanical sense.
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: Getback on August 19, 2008, 07:36:13 PM
Delete your stick and all  of it's software. Then reinstall. Should be fixed. Also recalibrate.

Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 19, 2008, 08:05:43 PM
Yes...lit up red all the time....


Re-download tha game or get a new joystick?

BTW: Joystick is Saitek ST290 from Walmart--had no software or drivers included in the box when purchased.





ROX



Did you calibrate the joystick in the Windows Game Controllers applet?  When you calibrate and you click on 'Next' instead of pressing a button on your joystick (i.e. trigger), it will not save the calibration settings but rather bypasses it and results in a miscalibrated stick that can cause issues like you're experiencing.  If you have calibrated it in Windows and it doesn't use any 3rd party software and isn't programmable then you can be certain that the stick is defective.


ack-ack
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: Geary420 on August 20, 2008, 12:23:22 AM
If you unplugged the stick, and it did NOT fire then the problem is more than likely in the trigger.  I have had this happen in the past with cheapo sticks as well. I also have used the ST-290 and it ain't so bad.  Wal-Mart has a swell return policy so if you still have the box just take it back and swap it out for a new one.  IIRC they were only 20 bucks when new anyways.
Title: Re: All ammo wasted on take-off
Post by: Twizzty on August 20, 2008, 02:23:22 PM
Geary is correct...I have had 2 ST-290's and they both had that same issue, bad trigger. Great thing is it's cheap and easy to fix, WalMart and $20.  :aok