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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: crnbrd1 on August 21, 2008, 01:08:35 PM
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For being one of the best spit pilots ever :salute
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thats like saying the smartest kid in summer school. :rolleyes:
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:salute
They say you never hear the one that kills you....if 1wingovr fired it you wont see it either...or him. I swear that spit has a cloaking device.
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:rofl
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Who is 1wingovr and what makes him so good?
ack-ack
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Who is 1wingovr and what makes him so good?
ack-ack
Furballer, he's not a bad spit stick, but I've got him a number of times, winged up with him, he isn't bad, but he isn't exceptional either, no offense, sorry.
thats like saying the smartest kid in summer school. :rolleyes:
Or the skinniest kid at fat camp :D
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I've never heard of him either. But I don't follow folks flying trainers much. We used those spits as trainers in H2H. Easy to fly and give the new person a little confidence. Then you could move them to planes you had to fly to be successful.
Good luck to him in the future.
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spit phobia is a disgusting disease, especially advanced cases where the patient actualy believe that flying a p38 makes them good somehow...Like a p38 is hard to fly or something....like a p38 isnt one of the most uber dweeb rides in the game. haha
Most people who denounce spitfires are terrible at flying them, and they use this cliche to avoid flying them and thus proving how much they suck in them.
If spitfires are so easy, come duel me in a spit5, it will be humiliating how much you do not know about flying a spitfire.
Salute wingovr, soon as i get a new PC i'll be looking for some more good fights bro.
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spitfires are easy to fly...and I know how to fly one. They are fun...but easy. I do not know of many planes that can make so many people look foolish at once...but the spitfire can.
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Ive had a bunch of good fights with him my D9 vs his 16.
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Spit 16 is fun if you know acm though! it sure is a lot easier then K4.
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spit phobia is a disgusting disease, especially advanced cases where the patient actualy believe that flying a p38 makes them good somehow...Like a p38 is hard to fly or something....like a p38 isnt one of the most uber dweeb rides in the game. haha
Not that your comment was directed at me and I know I make the P-38 look like it's an EZ mode plane, but I would put the P-38 in the more difficult of planes to fly compared to any of the Spitfires. There are just more things you have to aware of in the Lightning to be successful than you do in a Spitfire.
ack-ack
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I've flown the mosquito almost exclusively for six months, but when a spitfire shoots me down i try to congratulate the pilot not the plane. But it still bugs me, to have a respected vet say something like shuffler did is just destructive, nothing else. Everyone knows that the best ethos is 'fly what you like, how you like, have fun'. Yes i'm a brit and yes that makes me fight this corner more often than if i wasnt. The spitfire is a fantastic aircraft, and to truly fly one takes just as much skill as any p38.
When i get a computer that runs ah i will happily go to the DA with you shuffler, or anyone else that thinks flying a p38 elevates you above those who fly spitfires, and i will not only obliterate you in p38 vs p38/spit vs spit but i will also beat you p38(me) vs spit(you). This isnt because i am the best, or even because you suck. It is simply because you are still plane dependant and not concentrating on out flying the other pilot.
most of the people in this thread would benifit from a few sessions with someone like 1wingovr....but you'd actualy have to go the DA first.
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Hmm...Just out of curiosity I glanced at my personal KoTH log. 7 round wins in P-38s (that I fly all the time), 7 round wins in spitfires (which I almost never fly).
btw, I never heard of him either
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When i get a computer that runs ah i will happily go to the DA with you shuffler, or anyone else that thinks flying a p38 elevates you above those who fly spitfires, and i will not only obliterate you in p38 vs p38/spit vs spit but i will also beat you p38(me) vs spit(you). This isnt because i am the best, or even because you suck. It is simply because you are still plane dependant and not concentrating on out flying the other pilot.
I'll be more than happy to take you up on your challenge, just don't be surprised if your own expectations on the outcome aren't met. :D
ack-ack
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Batfink I will take you up on that challenge as well.
Not so much for "schooling" as for fun.
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wing aint a bad pilot, he's a good and decent guy with a pretty good personality, I've DA'ed him a few times, but I have still owned him in my Emil 'o doom! but he is definitely worthy of atleast a :salute or two.
Regards,
~Balance1
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when i can get online im always in the DA, maybe soon you'll all come find me. Funny though, all you P38 jocks who are saying 'no idea who he is'...well....how can i put this...thats because he is part of the DA community and none of you are. Thats not a critisism, just a fact.
:salute
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thats because he is part of the DA community and none of you are. Thats not a critisism, just a fact.
:salute
If you call the players that hang around the furball area running and picking the DA community, you're right as I'm not part of that. As for the other "fact" you put forth, I'm actually there quite often though in the DA area as I prefer 1v1 fights. You and I also live in different parts of the world, you're usually not on when I am so that also probably accounts why neither of us see each other in the DA.
You also seem a tad touchy, those AH withdrawls must be something fierce. All I asked was who he was, I've never heard of him and was curious to know why he was considered to be one of the "best spit pilots ever". My post wasn't meant as an insult of a jab of any kind, just curiousity.
And this whole "P-38 jocks" stuff is sheer nonsense. No one brought on the P-38 thing until you made your comment when you got your panties in a bunch over Shuffler's post. Shuffler never compared the Spitfire to the P-38, he's just of the opinion that the Spitfire is a trainer plane and one should 'evolve' so to speak once the player has moved beyond training. He'd have that opinion if he flew a Yak or a La5, not just because he flies the P-38. He's hardly alone in this opinion, just look at the myriad of threads on the subject. Personally, I have a different opinion on the matter but will whole heartedly agree that the Spitfire is a very easy and forgiving plane to fly and it shouldn't be any other way since that's pretty much how it was in real life. I subscribe to the "as long as you're not timid and have fun, I don't care what you fly" school of thought. But that's just me.
ack-ack
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And you're replying as if im directing everything at you.
What i see is a salute to a someone i know being over run by P38 fanatics telling him he is unknown and worthless and for what? Is it to make the gameplay better? Is it going to stop that tard running to his ack? Is it going to clean up the conduct in the DA?
What exactly has the point been of laughing at a humble and honest gesture and discrediting his new hero?
Somehow i dont feel whatever possitive vibe you are trying to ride here.
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If you call the players that hang around the furball area running and picking the DA community, you're right as I'm not part of that. As for the other "fact" you put forth, I'm actually there quite often though in the DA area as I prefer 1v1 fights. You and I also live in different parts of the world, you're usually not on when I am so that also probably accounts why neither of us see each other in the DA.
You also seem a tad touchy, those AH withdrawls must be something fierce. All I asked was who he was, I've never heard of him and was curious to know why he was considered to be one of the "best spit pilots ever". My post wasn't meant as an insult of a jab of any kind, just curiousity.
And this whole "P-38 jocks" stuff is sheer nonsense. No one brought on the P-38 thing until you made your comment when you got your panties in a bunch over Shuffler's post. Shuffler never compared the Spitfire to the P-38, he's just of the opinion that the Spitfire is a trainer plane and one should 'evolve' so to speak once the player has moved beyond training. He'd have that opinion if he flew a Yak or a La5, not just because he flies the P-38. He's hardly alone in this opinion, just look at the myriad of threads on the subject. Personally, I have a different opinion on the matter but will whole heartedly agree that the Spitfire is a very easy and forgiving plane to fly and it shouldn't be any other way since that's pretty much how it was in real life. I subscribe to the "as long as you're not timid and have fun, I don't care what you fly" school of thought. But that's just me.
ack-ack
i agree totaly ack,
yes i fly spits a lot mainly the 9 right now, in the da i fly the 16 and run into wingover a lot, hes pretty good but i wouldnt say l33t as i have managed to win a few times. of course im just as likely to up a 38 or f6f in there but mainly its the 16 or 8 spit.
i fly everything pretty much except for yak and la's even do a few a20 sorties even though i know nothing about fighting in one its nice to kill tanks in.
i hardly ever fly the pony or 190 but ocasionaly.
i tend to think that i have gotten pretty good at this game over the last 2 1/2 years, and all that stuff about "well you fly this plane so you must be a dweeb" i tend to ignore.
i also tend to fly more for the fight than the landgrab/horde one guy/ pick till i get bored kind of game.
i look at it like this "if your having fun, then that is all that matters", and if you dont wanna hear people crying on 200 cause u picked em/hoed em or just the fact that your flying a plane you love, just de tune 200 and cut the crap right there.
seriously some people need thicker skins around here.
i will say this, in ANY plane there is some requirement of skill to fly well and kill efectively, i would not berate someoen for flying a plane that gives them some good advantages at the trade off of a little speed. just as i would not berate a player for energy fighting in a pony as that is where it does well. or berate a player for taking a 38 into a vertical fight against a plane that cant hang with it and some that can as that is where it does well.
but i mayyyyy complain about the guy buzzing through at warp speed picking a furball and running out of icon range before coming back as that takes very little skill and tends to be very boring in a 1v1 for the guy who can easily avoid his passes.
i wouldnt look at the spit as a trainer but it is a great place to start if not the best place to start learning acm.
well i sort of forgot my point or even if i had one so ill shut up now :D <S>
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spit phobia is a disgusting disease, especially advanced cases where the patient actualy believe that flying a p38 makes them good somehow...Like a p38 is hard to fly or something....like a p38 isnt one of the most uber dweeb rides in the game. haha
Most people who denounce spitfires are terrible at flying them, and they use this cliche to avoid flying them and thus proving how much they suck in them.
If spitfires are so easy, come duel me in a spit5, it will be humiliating how much you do not know about flying a spitfire.
Salute wingovr, soon as i get a new PC i'll be looking for some more good fights bro.
I degrade Spit 16s, but I dont consider them real 'spits' my favs are the spit 9 and Spit 5.
As for the P-38, it's a pretty good plane, I wouldn't say they're 'P38 Jocks'
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^^ last post ediited.
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im not worked up, just expressing an opinion, i dont need any thicker skin or i might really hurt myself.
As for DA comunity, when was the last time any of you fought 2bighorn, dedalos, skyrock...i could keep listing but would end up forgetting too many. those guys are the current top notch in 1 on 1 fighting, and guys like wingovr are hanging around and learning things fast. Akak you may go for the odd duel with someone form the MA, but i assure you there is a large underground dueling scene and most of the best talent is off your radar.
and yes the withdrawel is murder :cry
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Apparently they had some good fights, who cares if either are known or unknown. It sounds like they had fun. Isn't that what is all about?
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Apparently they had some good fights, who cares if either are known or unknown. It sounds like they had fun. Isn't that what is all about?
Not here, it's really just a flame fest :rolleyes:
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And you're replying as if im directing everything at you.
What i see is a salute to a someone i know being over run by P38 fanatics telling him he is unknown and worthless and for what? Is it to make the gameplay better? Is it going to stop that tard running to his ack? Is it going to clean up the conduct in the DA?
What exactly has the point been of laughing at a humble and honest gesture and discrediting his new hero?
Somehow i dont feel whatever possitive vibe you are trying to ride here.
When you make comments like "P-38 jocks" in your posts, while not specifically directed at me, it does include me as I'm part of the "P-38 jock" crowd. I'm not trying to 'ride' or create any positive vibe, I just wanted to know who this player was and why some think he's the best Spitfire pilot in the game.
ack-ack
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Ive sliced him in two a few times and I think it was fairly...low... hmm. Actually the guys I can name are mostly HO dogs and colliders or augered flying a 262. You almost never remember a spit kill unless they do some really amazing snaps or its a Spit 14 or something. Spits a spit Yak a yak etc. F4U guys that really perform in it... that you remember. That and the guy you never saw (unless you succeed in blocking it out of your memory). Fly what you want and enjoy.
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you seemed to take offense to a "P38 Jock" saying spits were easy to fly..not that he said anything about wingovr. Sorry bud...spits are easy to fly...maybe harder to land..but easy to fly. I am sure wingovr flies it well. Shuffler said nothing about him tho...just the spit.
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though, all you P38 jocks who are saying 'no idea who he is'...well....how can i put this...thats because he is part of the DA community and none of you are. Thats not a critisism, just a fact.
:salute
True.
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and you could expect a similar reaction from someone who loves spitfires. aanyhow sleepy time, nice talking with you. :angel:
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yea screw you spitfire haters!!!
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LOL nice Bruv. I think Spits are downright sexy IRL especially the 16. Sorry but the first time I saw one drop flaps at the first turn against my pony... dweebfire.
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you seemed to take offense to a "P38 Jock" saying spits were easy to fly..not that he said anything about wingovr. Sorry bud...spits are easy to fly...maybe harder to land..but easy to fly. I am sure wingovr flies it well. Shuffler said nothing about him tho...just the spit.
Spits are 'Fun' to fly. Simple as that. If I want to rack up some easy kills in a 2 v 1 or 3 v 1 gangbang, I'll go take up a Spit 5. One of the joys of Ozkansas, the way you have to fight, you learn great gangbang ACM. :aok
I dont count Spit 16s or Spit 8s 'spits' anymore. Too many idiots fly them, and because they think they are 'th3 m0st 337' they dont try to learn with even the slightest disadvantage.
Course, I'm still having trouble against whatever bearkats is flying against my spit 9... :rofl
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I dont give a watermelon how many dweebs fly them!!
If your in on my Spit 8 or 9 you better kill me in one shot or you'll have some hispanos up your arse quicker than i can say put the kettle on :)
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Please dont get me wrong. La7s and P51s have been seeing much worse things (obviously). First time I did a lag roll only to see my attacker keep going absolutely straight for 6k I knew there were worse things in this world then a poorly flown spit! :lol :rofl
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I dont give a watermelon how many dweebs fly them!!
If your in on my Spit 8 or 9 you better kill me in one shot or you'll have some hispanos up your arse quicker than i can say put the kettle on :)
Well, now, if I ever run into you, I can HO you and then, send you this quote saying you 'gave' me permission to kill you in 1 shot :D
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you can try to HO me ;)
and if you manage it i'll give you a tidy S! not cry on 200 or run to the board posting a film or ask you to DA.
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you can try to HO me ;)
and if you manage it i'll give you a tidy S! not cry on 200 or run to the board posting a film or ask you to DA.
You lie! :P
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Bruv I have 'heard' you on 200 and while nothing close to crying it is far from being a tidy S! :D
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ah finally, reinforcement.
:rock bruv
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but i assure you there is a large underground dueling scene and most of the best talent is off your radar.
We duel for pink slips...
(http://www.talkingpix.co.uk/2Fast2FuriousComp2.jpg)
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We duel for pink slips...
(http://www.talkingpix.co.uk/2Fast2FuriousComp2.jpg)
LMAO :rofl :rofl
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I'm with you bat. No need for people to insult a plane, and the 'community' that flies it.
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We duel for pink slips...
(http://www.talkingpix.co.uk/2Fast2FuriousComp2.jpg)
"I'll take that bet, and your gona regret, Im the best there ever is" :salute
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yea screw you spitfire haters!!!
:aok
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See Rules #4, #5
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spit phobia is a disgusting disease, especially advanced cases where the patient actualy believe that flying a p38 makes them good somehow...Like a p38 is hard to fly or something....like a p38 isnt one of the most uber dweeb rides in the game. haha
Most people who denounce spitfires are terrible at flying them, and they use this cliche to avoid flying them and thus proving how much they suck in them.
If spitfires are so easy, come duel me in a spit5, it will be humiliating how much you do not know about flying a spitfire.
Salute wingovr, soon as i get a new PC i'll be looking for some more good fights bro.
I'll duel ya in a SpitV anytime. Spits are easy to fly. Everytime I get in one in the MA, I land kills easily. In a Jug or P-40 I actually have to work for the kills and dont land them as often.
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its a spit man.. not 2 hard 2 b good in it lol
-BigBOBCH
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See Rules #4, #5
You do realize that's what makes it funny, right?
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I salute you for making the funniest posts I've seen all day.
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It seems to me that if you don't fly what others deem to be worthy planes you just suck. Wonder why we have all of these other planes then ?
I suppose I'll just keep flying what I like and not bother what anyone else thinks or worry about what type of plane they fly.
I originally thought the idea of a game was to have fun, but it does seriously take some of the fun out of it when all you hear is "Dweebfire this and LGay that".
Fly what you like and like what you fly but most of all have fun.
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I always have fun flying with or against 1wingovr
S Wing
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Apparently they had some good fights, who cares if either are known or unknown. It sounds like they had fun. Isn't that what is all about?
That's true but, the OP chose to post this comment in the 2nd most popular board on the forums...
For being one of the best spit pilots ever :salute
Nice sentement and all, but it begs to be challenged and commented on.
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1wingovr is a somewhat decent fight in his spit. And to answer bat's question, the last time i dueled ded or bighorn was a couple days ago, and did so almost every other night or so. I learned more in that Summer than my whole Aces High experience...all 1 1/2 years of it :D At the beginning, and it was over, but now i can hang with em if i dont slip up, and give them a real good run for their money. DA and TA best places to learn IMO
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ah finally, reinforcement.
:rock bruv
And some more :)
I'd love to be more polite about this, but if you dislike the Spitfires cause you think they're 'easy' or anything, then shove it.
No plane is 'easy' to get kills in, and just because you uber-pilots/old-timers find it easy to fly, does not mean that it's easy for anyone.
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Yossarian
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I don't hate spitfires, I just don't think it's right to say they are equally as challenging to fly as a 38. Batfink, I think your skill level is clouding your judgment. Put a 2 weeker in a spit and one in a 38, which one do you think would do better?
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No plane is 'easy' to get kills in, and just because you uber-pilots/old-timers find it easy to fly, does not mean that it's easy for anyone.
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Yossarian
If you were to put a new player with 0 play time in a Spitfire Mk IX and another new player with the same amount of stick time in a Bf 109K-4, the player in the Spitfire will 9 out of 10 times come out the winner. Why? Because the Spitfire Mk IX is a far more forgiving and easy plane to fly. Don't take it as a knock, doesn't mean those that fly it regularly are any better or worse than anyone else that flies something else, just means the plane is easy to fly.
Seriously, you need to get your panties unbunched or maybe you and Bat should take some Midol. I heard it helps those mood swings during that time of the month.
ack-ack
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Who's 1wingover?
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Who's 1wingover?
More importantly does it make a good mix with scotch?
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If you were to put a new player with 0 play time in a Spitfire Mk IX and another new player with the same amount of stick time in a Bf 109K-4, the player in the Spitfire will 9 out of 10 times come out the winner. Why? Because the Spitfire Mk IX is a far more forgiving and easy plane to fly. Don't take it as a knock, doesn't mean those that fly it regularly are any better or worse than anyone else that flies something else, just means the plane is easy to fly.
Seriously, you need to get your panties unbunched or maybe you and Bat should take some Midol. I heard it helps those mood swings during that time of the month.
ack-ack
In my opinion, flying the 'plane' and getting a2a victories in it are quite different things.
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Yossarian
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If you were to put a new player with 0 play time in a Spitfire Mk IX and another new player with the same amount of stick time in a Bf 109K-4, the player in the Spitfire will 9 out of 10 times come out the winner. Why? Because the Spitfire Mk IX is a far more forgiving and easy plane to fly. Don't take it as a knock, doesn't mean those that fly it regularly are any better or worse than anyone else that flies something else, just means the plane is easy to fly.
Seriously, you need to get your panties unbunched or maybe you and Bat should take some Midol. I heard it helps those mood swings during that time of the month.
ack-ack
Why does that matter? That's the whole point of Yossarian's post. Just because some can jump into it 'and beat a K-4 9 out of 10 times' doesn't mean all can or will. Just because in your opinion is more forgiving and easier to fly doesn't mean that will hold true for everyone who jumps in one.
Oh, and on a side note, I'd really like to see two people with 0 hours each duel/fight each other. I'd be interested in seeing if they could get a shot off before both/ one or the other augers in.
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The 38 isn't like a Spit where you can just jump in and find it a easier time then other planes, even though it can do all of those jobs.
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I don't hate spitfires, I just don't think it's right to say they are equally as challenging to fly as a 38. Batfink, I think your skill level is clouding your judgment. Put a 2 weeker in a spit and one in a 38, which one do you think would do better?
The P38 would survive longer as he would be most likely to climb to about 15-20k. Unlikely to get any kills but probably easily make it home in one piece. P38 is very very easy to BnZ then run home in. Very.
Spit pilot would most likely stay below 10k and most likely get a few chances at a kill before he died and reupped and came back to fight again.
The main difference being that the P38 feels ok to fly so timidly because....gasp...he is the man flying the plane which takes so much skill....whereas the spit pilot is more likely to just jump in and have fun.
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P38's are flown by effeminate lady-boys with shriveled gonads.
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P38's are flown by effeminate lady-boys with shriveled gonads.
Yep.
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re-added Galland's quote into my sig. He knew the score.
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A quote i'm very fond of, so much so i have it as my windows log on sound. :)
http://www.4shared.com/file/60123944/586c9e4b/galland.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/60123944/586c9e4b/galland.html)
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LOL! Never knew so many fairies flew the Spitfire. You guys are getting all riled up for no reason, no one ever said the P-38 was any better or worse than the Spitfire. All that was said was the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly, doesn't matter what the guy that said it flies, it could have been said by anyone that flies any other plane.
ack-ack
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LOL! Never knew so many fairies flew the Spitfire. You guys are getting all riled up for no reason, no one ever said the P-38 was any better or worse than the Spitfire. All that was said was the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly, doesn't matter what the guy that said it flies, it could have been said by anyone that flies any other plane.
ack-ack
I never took it as someone saying one was better than the other, it seemed more of a "Why fly that, fly what I want you to fly" kind of post.
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A quote i'm very fond of, so much so i have it as my windows log on sound. :)
http://www.4shared.com/file/60123944/586c9e4b/galland.html (http://www.4shared.com/file/60123944/586c9e4b/galland.html)
:D Straight from the horse's mouth so to speak http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3e-Ra0dH-Lg :lol
And bat where ya been lately m8 havent seen you on??? :huh
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nothing to fly on at present, but should be back sooner or later. lazy summer as always. :salute
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Well guys, my opinion is that the Spitfire Mk.VIII and Mk.XVI are easy-mode fighters. Both are among the very best dogfighters in the game. I believe that the Mk.VIII is superior to the Mk.XVI due to its greater stability at the limits, which more than offsets the XVI's fast roll rate. I fly each of them now and again, because they are simply fun.
That said, if I had to pick just one non-perked fighter to fly 100% of the time, it would be the F6F-5 Hellcat, hands down.
My regards,
Widewing
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:salute :salute 1wingovr I have always had a blast flying with or against him.
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P38's are flown by effeminate lady-boys with shriveled gonads.
:rofl :aok
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P38's are flown by effeminate lady-boys with shriveled gonads.
Lol ouch. Just because we use funky-looking yokes to control the plane does NOT make us less macho :P
LOL! Never knew so many fairies flew the Spitfire. You guys are getting all riled up for no reason, no one ever said the P-38 was any better or worse than the Spitfire. All that was said was the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly, doesn't matter what the guy that said it flies, it could have been said by anyone that flies any other plane.
ack-ack
I hope that in bold makes things clearer. Being Canadian, I flew the Spitfire for some time. All the war stories I heard from the veterans, all the fun things I could do with it in the game. After a while, I started reading up more about my own country's history and found the P-38 tobe an amazing plane. Depending on where you're coming from, it can be stated that the Spitfire is just as easy to fly as the P-38. Before the rest of the SAPPers kill me, let's say this: most green pilots instinctively start to turn fight with any plane they fly against any plane they encounter. All it takes is a simple mentality change (which I'm sure has happened at least to one green player) to show that the world of air combat is a 3D world and everything that is done in the horizontal should more or less be done in the vertical whilst flying the UFO-like Lightning.
On the other hand, most green players don't realize this and so it can also be stated that, for the general population, the Lightning is more difficult to fly than the Spitfire. I know Spitfire and Lightning pilots don't get along too well, but the SAPPers are NOT trying to insult anyone here. I'm on both sides because I really like both planes and from my POV, it's just a horrible mentality that has been set up on both sides alike. On one side, people know that their a/c is more difficlut to fly while the other side knows that their easier-to-fly plane takes just as much skill to fly effectively which, for the most part, is probably true. The unfortunate thing is that even though both sides realize this, they are looking trough the wall of 'MY PLANE IS BETTER THAN YOURS' that has been setup wayyy too many times already. So let's all look at each other like fellow fliers and pilots of the REAL THING because if I ever said that RL Lightning pilots lacked gonads, I'd be deserved of a world of hurt.
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thats like saying the smartest kid in summer school. :rolleyes:
:lol
yup
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The P38 would survive longer as he would be most likely to climb to about 15-20k. Unlikely to get any kills but probably easily make it home in one piece. P38 is very very easy to BnZ then run home in. Very.
Spit pilot would most likely stay below 10k and most likely get a few chances at a kill before he died and reupped and came back to fight again.
The main difference being that the P38 feels ok to fly so timidly because....gasp...he is the man flying the plane which takes so much skill....whereas the spit pilot is more likely to just jump in and have fun.
Again bat, your experience is showing. You are assuming the newb would have enough sense to do this before getting suckered into too far to the Spits game.
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Sure, I believed that then, but I've since changed my opinion on the matter. I like to think that's part of being human; experiencing certain things/situations and changing your views (or making your current views stronger). I had really didn't understand' the spitfire and what it was/wasn't capable of doing, I just went of what other people said as I really hadn't flown and experienced the spit family. Before you go checking my scores though, yes I did fly a few models of the spit, the first 2 or 3 months I was playing the game. They also accounted for a fraction of my total kills/time flying. Needless to say, I was still trying to get my gears up then, and didn't develop an understanding of the spit that I could use later.
I might even go so far to say that the 38 could be easier for a newer person to fly. They're not going to have any torque to fight, and if they do go over the edge, the 38 is very easy to recover (unless your counting that auto reply flaps spin thing, but even then vets have a hard time recovering that so...). I think we're all under the thinking that these newer players are going to be able to magically go out and start stall fighting like they've been doing it forever. When I was new, all I could do was stay fast and immel/split s to save E like most of the training docs said. I didn't go out and start setting people up for vertical reverses and then get into a rolling scissors and then make them over shoot, etc, etc. I think newer people fight your standard stay fast, reverse in the vertical, and then go from their. If they're just going to get into a luftberry at slow speeds, then ya, I guess the spits better?
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And you're replying as if im directing everything at you.
What i see is a salute to a someone i know being over run by P38 fanatics telling him he is unknown and worthless and for what? Is it to make the gameplay better? Is it going to stop that tard running to his ack? Is it going to clean up the conduct in the DA?
What exactly has the point been of laughing at a humble and honest gesture and discrediting his new hero?
Somehow i dont feel whatever possitive vibe you are trying to ride here.
You sure read alot into a short post. I never said this person is worthless... you are the only one who put worthless in a sentence with his name. I just said spits are easy to fly. I also stated that we used those in H2H for new pilots, we did simply because they are so easy to maneuver. Pretty simple really..... I also do not care what he flies as long as he has fun. I fly the 38 but I never said anything about it in that post. You should calm down and have some fun in RL for awhile.
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The P38 would survive longer as he would be most likely to climb to about 15-20k. Unlikely to get any kills but probably easily make it home in one piece. P38 is very very easy to BnZ then run home in. Very.
Spit pilot would most likely stay below 10k and most likely get a few chances at a kill before he died and reupped and came back to fight again.
The main difference being that the P38 feels ok to fly so timidly because....gasp...he is the man flying the plane which takes so much skill....whereas the spit pilot is more likely to just jump in and have fun.
Maybe you should come into the MA. You'll find the 80th fighting otd in 38s. We love the T&B. You won't find anything timid about us. Come by and have some fun.
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P-38 > Spitfire
:noid
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Ty for the salute crnbrd1 :aok I am not the best spit driver in the game. There are to many better than me and i have a lot of respect for those guys. They were mentioned in this post <S> to them. Get that computer Batfink i am ready for more fun duels <S>
1wingovr <---spitdweeb and proud of it :rock :rock :rock
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:rofl :aok
Dentin, you know where that animation in your sig is from right?
A friend of mine got the Metal Slug 10 year Anthology on the Wii. I spent alot of time playing all 6 of them. I think the third one is my favorite right now.
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Hmm...Just out of curiosity I glanced at my personal KoTH log. 7 round wins in P-38s (that I fly all the time), 7 round wins in spitfires (which I almost never fly).
btw, I never heard of him either
Yeah, but then you could fly a paperclip and get kills too. :lol
Heard of him DA... He shot me down once, and my 38 got him twice. He plays the vertical well, but then when you're diving in on a furbal from 15k you tend to develop a lot of excess smash to use in the vertical.
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Jeez is it ok that I wing with the 80th occasionally and silat frequently, being a spit pilot and all ?
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I flew a spit9 last night, for the first time in AHII that I can recall, and was chuckling the whole time at how easy it is to get kills in it.
I was able to defeat a very experienced 38 pilot, not once, but twice, and he had more E on both occasions.
The plane is simply easy to get kills in... EZ mode. That said, I really had a good time.... fun stuff. :aok
Had 2 deaths... ran out of gas once and collided with the carcass of one of my victims the other.
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I'm going through a spitfire renaissance this tour. Spitfires are great fun indeed:)
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Jeez is it ok that I wing with the 80th occasionally and silat frequently, being a spit pilot and all ?
Sure it is...
Heck we in the 49th FG will even have you along...
As long as you're in a 38, 40E or 47 razorback. ;)
:salute
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I flew a spit9 last night, for the first time in AHII that I can recall, and was chuckling the whole time at how easy it is to get kills in it.
I was able to defeat a very experienced 38 pilot, not once, but twice, and he had more E on both occasions.
The plane is simply easy to get kills in... EZ mode. That said, I really had a good time.... fun stuff. :aok
Had 2 deaths... ran out of gas once and collided with the carcass of one of my victims the other.
But do you think you know everything about how to fly that spit? do you think if you went to duel another spit pilot he wouldnt stand a chance against you? Are you as good now as you ever could be in a spitfire?
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But do you think you know everything about how to fly that spit? do you think if you went to duel another spit pilot he wouldnt stand a chance against you? Are you as good now as you ever could be in a spitfire?
I don't think he was referring to dueling other spits, simply MA play style the fight is stacked for the spitfires.
I don't think the spitfires are overmodeled or anything, but the MA doesn't show its greatest weakness in the war which was fuel load and range.
-edit- dueling, not dualing. Me fail English? That unpossible!
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The spitfire is one of my favorite planes in RL and would only pass up a chance to fly one in RL for a chance to fly a Pony.
However, this is a GAME and no matter how hard you try to believe your a real pilot if your good at it well.....your not. When you play other games do you put it on easy and win every time? What possible fun could that be? I use the pony alot in this game and I know some of you will say it is "easy mode" and I'll agree that in some aspects it is such as the pony's good speed but, when you do get into a turn fight or a stall fight with planes that are supposed to be superior and win it makes it quit fun. One of the main reason's I use the pony is so that I can run down these planes to give it a go. Another plane I "fly" alot is a 109 (various models) and I find those quit challenging simply because those cannons seem to be to hard for me to aim most of the time, and the visibility sux :furious
I'm not taking sides in this disagreement because as far as players go I have a ton of respect for both of the parties involved. It's guys like these that make me keep logging on in hopes of finding a good fight. Bat and a few of these guys from the 80th are on the short list of people I would actually care to meet in RL from this game. :salute
Playing AH is like watching David Blaine or Copperfield.... You know it's not real but it's human nature to want to believe it is.
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somewhere along the line you lost your imagination bucky, im sorry for you. And dont BS us like this you spent the first 3 years of AH2 flying spitfires and hurricanes.
P51 is far easier to live and get kills in than a spitfire.
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As the stomach churns............ :lol :lol :lol
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i'm tired of blacking out, I want RR back! j/k
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P51 is far easier to live and get kills in than a spitfire.
Not for me.
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P51 is far easier to live and get kills in than a spitfire.
:lol :rofl
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you dont think so?
maybe you didnt read acurately. 'get kills and live'
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I don't fly with by the nose dive and flee mantra. I live and kill more in a spit. Why would you doubt our reading comprehension?
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you dont think so?
maybe you didnt read acurately. 'get kills and live'
Oh no, I understood what you typed.
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Steve, stop agreeing with me! It's killing my cred!
:rofl :rock :aok
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you dont think so?
maybe you didnt read acurately. 'get kills and live'
Why does it upset you so that the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly? Just because it is, doesn't mean that you're not any less skilled than anyone else that flies another plane. It just means it's an easy plane to fly, probably the easiest fighter to fly in the game. That's not a bad thing but somehow you think it is. Is it the fact that since the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly that somehow we think you are less skilled for flying it? Is that what has your panties in a bunch?
ack-ack
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somewhere along the line you lost your imagination bucky, im sorry for you. And dont BS us like this you spent the first 3 years of AH2 flying spitfires and hurricanes.
P51 is far easier to live and get kills in than a spitfire.
:rofl :rofl Maaaaaaybe about 6 months ago I did 1 or 2 "sortes" in a spit 14. Other than that the last time I used one was tour 85 when I used a seafire twice.................at least thats according to my score (i can't believe you actually made me look at the score page) :(
Only been playin since like march '05 but....whatever stuff you have to MAKE UP to put me down go right ahead :aok
Delusionally yours,
Bucky :salute :rolleyes:
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I don't hate spitfires, I just don't think it's right to say they are equally as challenging to fly as a 38. Batfink, I think your skill level is clouding your judgment. Put a 2 weeker in a spit and one in a 38, which one do you think would do better?
the one who can take off ?
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the one who can take off ?
ROFL!!!
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Why does it upset you so that the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly? Just because it is, doesn't mean that you're not any less skilled than anyone else that flies another plane. It just means it's an easy plane to fly, probably the easiest fighter to fly in the game. That's not a bad thing but somehow you think it is. Is it the fact that since the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly that somehow we think you are less skilled for flying it? Is that what has your panties in a bunch?
ack-ack
My panties are hanging untwisted on the drying rack as i sit and type this naked. I dont fly spitfires, i fly the mosquito. but i dont go round insulting the spitfire or people who fly it just because i have moved onto a more difficult plane to fly. Something most of the 'elite' P38 pilots do all the time. Condescending just because you fly the 38.
:rofl :rofl Maaaaaaybe about 6 months ago I did 1 or 2 "sortes" in a spit 14. Other than that the last time I used one was tour 85 when I used a seafire twice.................at least thats according to my score (i can't believe you actually made me look at the score page) :(
Only been playin since like march '05 but....whatever stuff you have to MAKE UP to put me down go right ahead :aok
so you addressed the spitfire but what about the hurricane bucky, how many sorties have you flown in the hurri 2c?
what about the A6m, what about the hurricane, what about the p51 or the la7 or the 190d or any of the leading aircraft from each country? Why is flying a spitfire easier than flying a zeke or hurricane, its not. Not sure why you think i want to 'put you down', surely you can see that it is you putting down an aircraft i love with your (and many other people's) inaccurate descriptions.
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I NEVER "fly" an LA or a A6... If you want to look it up you can because I don't care. I occasionally use a hurri2c when trying to bust cap at field and that is the ONLY time i use it in the MA.
I think you are missing the point here. Again....we are not "putting down" *cough* YOUR A/C. We are simply saying that in this GAME it is too easy to "fly". It's that simple. If you read what I posted before I believe I said the "spitfire is one of my favorite planes in RL" RL= REAL LIFE
You can't honestly tell me that the spit is HARD to "fly"
Come on Man. Sell stupid somewhere else because we are all filled up here.
Take off the flight suit and step away for bit........
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i havnt flown the game in over a month bucky, so you're wrong.
You have flown the hurricane2c more than you say, I remember countless times running into you in your hurri and saluting you, win or lose.
So you are taking this line of 'its a game stop making it serious' yet you seem to think flying a certain a/c is shamefull. 'I have never flown X plane' yadda yadda.
You know what, i've flown them all, i enjoy flying them all. I expect you are the one who really needs to stop taking it too seriously, or at the very least stop ruining other people fun by down grading what they fly. The P51 is the most weenie-fied plane we have, impossible to get killed in a P51 unless you want to, or make a huge mistake. the same cannot be said for any model of the spitfire besides maybe the spit16.
I grow weary of this debate, i dont care enough to reply again.
:salute
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My panties are hanging untwisted on the drying rack as i sit and type this naked. I dont fly spitfires, i fly the mosquito. but i dont go round insulting the spitfire or people who fly it just because i have moved onto a more difficult plane to fly. Something most of the 'elite' P38 pilots do all the time. Condescending just because you fly the 38.
Because I say the Spitfire is an easy plane to fly, I am being condescending?
ack-ack
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It's not the plane! It's the pilot that you should worry about. Whenever I'm in D-9. I usually hang around 6-7k at the furball enviroment, but with high SA. I would spot a 10k spitfire coming in before he could choose his target. That way I know to stop diving on lower targets and point my nose to meet that spitfire head-on. So really it doesn't matter what one fly, it's how they fly the plane that you should worry.
A good pilot with high SA, are almost impossible to be pin against the wall unless he wants to be pinned. They would see a higher incoming threats and react so that they wouldn't put that threat in their tail before the threat know to choose them as target. It's not running, it's facing your biggest threat and make it change its mind on having a chance of having you as its target. I fly D-9 a lot at furball and face a lot of inc spits at 10k while I'm on the deck, but usually I'd face them HO if they decide to jump me. If they don't jump me then I'd keep them in view and know where they are most the time.
In the other hand, If I'm flying a turn and burn plane. I wouldn't have to do the same thing I do in D-9. I would just sucker the higher bandit to dive on me, and if he decides to chop throttle to settle in. That's what I look for and reverse on him. If he's going to make a one speed pass then I'd just keep my eyes on him and continue to engage other targets.
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It's not the plane! It's the pilot that you should worry about.
Sorry Yenny, but this is not completely true and you know it. The plane has much to do with a con's threat level and a person's ability to get kills/live.
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Say what you want about me using the hurri....I've proven you wrong on your "3 year" thing with the spit so I don't feel the need to prove you wrong again by looking over some boring score sheets. :rolleyes:
When I play Tiger Woods golf on xbox I'm not Tiger Woods all the time because even when you win it would be satisfying to me. Even though Tiger is the BEST golfer in the world. When I play NHL 08 on xbox against my friends I give them sooo much crap when they use teams like Detroit and Anaheim because they are already known to be REALLY good teams. They don't get all pissy when I give them crap either because they know. So, I guess its hard for me to understand why you think its a bad thing when people make fun of other people who "fly" the spit. I guess you would like us all to say that the spit was a POS that nobody could fly and I can't believe the Brits even made such a lemon? It's so good that getting kills in it are much easier than most of the others. All I'm saying is I like to challenge myself a bit in this game and in my opinion(and the vast MAJORITY) of others feel like the spit is easy.
Believe me...I DON'T take this game serious at all. It's purely entertainment and fantasy. I know what it takes to be a pilot because I am one. :D :salute
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i The P51 is the most weenie-fied plane we have, impossible to get killed in a P51 unless you want to, or make a huge mistake.
:salute
This is just pure crap. What makes a 51 so much better than any other late war ride?
P47M is just as fast, heck the hog -1 is about as fast. K4 is just as fast, D9 is faster and has cannon, LA7 is faster at MA alts. 4 of the 5 out turn it, out climb it, all are more lethal. The one that doesn't out turn it, out rolls it dramatically.
FWIW, I'm not puttin your beloved spit down or anyone who flies it. I think it's a great plane and a lot of fun. It also has a great history, and heck, with those elliptical wings, it's a gorgeous bird.
About the only knock I have is on the spixteen... many pilots use it as a crutch because it is so capable in multiple roles. This is about the pilots though, not the plane itself. Ok OK, I'll admit it, I don't think clipped wing spits are as pretty as the full wing versions.... you got me there. ;)
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the one who can take off ?
LOL, good point! :)
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LOL What a bunch of overgeneralizations and loss of perspective. The spit is easy to fly for whom? lol again. So what if it is "easy to fly" what does that mean anyway? lol again. To have an honest conversation you need to qualify some of your perspectives. Give a noob a spit16 and if he doesn't know acm he is dead just about every time or if he doesn't know how to control E. The only way to get a kill in a spit16 if your new is to get lucky. They don't fly themselves. It comes down to the pilot and experience. After you have more experience and understand some ACM's yes it is an easier plane to fly in some aspects.
1. Easier to fly than what specifically?
2. If it is easier to fly does it matter if it has a noskill pilot at the controls?
3. There are some things that might make it a better fighter it has to do more with the overall performance and gun package than it is easy to fly.
Humm this is why everyone jumps in and flys the spit 1 or V because they are easy to fly.
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when i can get online im always in the DA, maybe soon you'll all come find me. Funny though, all you P38 jocks who are saying 'no idea who he is'...well....how can i put this...thats because he is part of the DA community and none of you are. Thats not a critisism, just a fact.
:salute
wen i go to furball island all i see is easy kills, little or no sa. im not saying im uber and the pilots in the da are noobs, but im saying thats what i usually see. i occaisionally find a good fight here or ther in the furball arena, but i find it less than i dont :cry. The thing with the spitfires is, as many people have said, they are easy. id much rather fly a 38 over a spit just for the amount of skill it takes to fly well. the spitfire, whilst it takes skill, its nothing vs the skill for a p38. hell, id even take a hog or p40 over a spit for the same reason, takes more skill to fly a hog or p40 well than it does to fly the spitfires well.
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LOL What a bunch of overgeneralizations and loss of perspective. The spit is easy to fly for whom? lol again. So what if it is "easy to fly" what does that mean anyway? lol again. To have an honest conversation you need to qualify some of your perspectives. Give a noob a spit16 and if he doesn't know acm he is dead just about every time or if he doesn't know how to control E. The only way to get a kill in a spit16 if your new is to get lucky. They don't fly themselves. It comes down to the pilot and experience. After you have more experience and understand some ACM's yes it is an easier plane to fly in some aspects.
1. Easier to fly than what specifically?
2. If it is easier to fly does it matter if it has a noskill pilot at the controls?
3. There are some things that might make it a better fighter it has to do more with the overall performance and gun package than it is easy to fly.
Humm this is why everyone jumps in and flys the spit 1 or V because they are easy to fly.
Hmm a spit driver no doubt :lol
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Hmm a spit driver no doubt :lol
couldnt agree more....sad but true! :aok
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right well im dragged back in again, agh well..
Let me explain it for you simply. In a spitfire a player can make the challenge his opponents. If you want to make a tough fight in your spitfire, go start a 3 on 1. A 3 on 1 is something your average P51 or P38 driver will run away from, where as the average spitfire will stick it out and die fighting.
The RV-8 is simple to fly, doing a normal landing would not excite me, but flying upside down through fighter hangers is more challenging.
People who are old and slow and have poor reactions wouldnt be able to handle a 3 on 1 no matter what plane you give them, but some of us young ones get our thrills by flying into a bad situation and winning it. winning a 3 on 1 in a spitfire is much harder than winning a 1 on 1 in your 'macho man' plane.
People who claim the spit is too easy are just sheep following the crowd. Some people fly her and love her and do amazing things with her, ACMs that most of the anti-spit pilots here wouldnt be able to do in any plane.
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right well im dragged back in again, agh well..
Let me explain it for you simply. In a spitfire a player can make the challenge his opponents. If you want to make a tough fight in your spitfire, go start a 3 on 1. A 3 on 1 is something your average P51 or P38 driver will run away from, where as the average spitfire will stick it out and die fighting.
The RV-8 is simple to fly, doing a normal landing would not excite me, but flying upside down through fighter hangers is more challenging.
People who are old and slow and have poor reactions wouldnt be able to handle a 3 on 1 no matter what plane you give them, but some of us young ones get our thrills by flying into a bad situation and winning it. winning a 3 on 1 in a spitfire is much harder than winning a 1 on 1 in your 'macho man' plane.
People who claim the spit is too easy are just sheep following the crowd. Some people fly her and love her and do amazing things with her, ACMs that most of the anti-spit pilots here wouldnt be able to do in any plane.
i know people in this game, who arnt "young" and im not mentioning any names, they fly into 3-1's and kick donut just for the fun of it in they hogs. but id still stay with my p38 or soemthin other than a spit....
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a 3 on 1 means 3 enemy who are able to get guns on you, not floating above 3 noobs and vulching them.
It is perfectly acceptable to choose one plane over another, i dont hardly ever fly spitfires anymore. Not because i think they are below my skill level, but because its very unlikely i would find anyone willing to fight me.
What i dont agree with is that you have moved on 'beyond spitfire's skill level' and somehow feel you are justified to judge an entire genre of aircraft from your high alt perch in your super manly man planes.
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i havnt moved beyond the spits, i just dont fly them as my normal plane. i fly the occaisonal spixteen or spit9.
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Bat,
My view. If this were real life and whether I lived or died was on the line, a spit would be high on my list of planes to fly. There really isn't anything it doesn't do well. One of the best planes made in WWII no doubt about it.
In a game environment, where you can re-up as soon as you "die", the focus is more on skill. I hate to use that word. After all, it's a cartoon, but I think maybe a better term than "easy" is "forgiving". You can get away with things most other planes can't. A good pilot in a spit is always a handful. What frustrates me is when I fight someone in a spit who's idea of ACM is turning in a circle thinking they will eventually turn inside me. They don't, but I think this is part of the reason the "easy" attitude has prevailed over the years. My 2 cents anyhow :salute
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Bat,
My view. If this were real life and whether I lived or died was on the line, a spit would be high on my list of planes to fly. There really isn't anything it doesn't do well. One of the best planes made in WWII no doubt about it.
In a game environment, where you can re-up as soon as you "die", the focus is more on skill. I hate to use that word. After all, it's a cartoon, but I think maybe a better term than "easy" is "forgiving". You can get away with things most other planes can't. A good pilot in a spit is always a handful. What frustrates me is when I fight someone in a spit who's idea of ACM is turning in a circle thinking they will eventually turn inside me. They don't, but I think this is part of the reason the "easy" attitude has prevailed over the years. My 2 cents anyhow :salute
i agree on the part about flying it in real life wer its a life or death situation.
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Bear that is true and is also something that could be said about almost any plane. When a person gets good in any plane that isnt a comlpete washout. I could go through many planes in ah2 and find an angle to show why they are easy mode when flown in a certain manner. The Eny scale is there for a reason, you go compare a P51D to a SpitV or IX and then try and convince hitech that his system is balls.
The underlying points.
- A plane is a plane is a plane
- The player is being a dweeb whilst flying a [insert plane whine], not the [plane] being a dweeb.
- anything under ENY 20 ish is a distinct advantage in performance, not just the higher end spitfires and la7.
- i cant play aces high right now and i hate you all.
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We hate you too :).
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now watd i do :cry
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but your hate is the kind smug 'i could log in and fly now if i wanted to' hate and it fuels my hate more :mad:
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but your hate is the kind smug 'i could log in and fly now if i wanted to' hate and it fuels my hate more :mad:
i cant login and fly now....brother is on desk top....
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so kick him off! this computer had trouble running ah1. i now know what it feels like to be thrown into rehab and forced off something hard, it hurts man. :D
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so kick him off! this computer had trouble running ah1. i now know what it feels like to be thrown into rehab and forced off something hard, it hurts man. :D
he 2X the size of me...cant beat his donut down :cry :furious
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grab something of his quite big and show him then throw it up infront of him and punch him in the stomach as hard as you can when he catches it. should work. If not jump out the window.
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If not jump out the window.
and wen he runs me down....
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you hide and go play ah2 while he is looking.
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bat check your e-mail
mulli
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Hmm a spit driver no doubt :lol
How do you define a "spit driver"?
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When I first started I was told to fly the spits cause they were easy. I couldn't agree more to that fact. Why don't you see some of the best pilots in this game fly spit 16's. It's too easy for them. I have a squaddie who won't fly a 16 cause its too easy. He'd rather fly corsair or P-38. When he does fly a spit it's notheing for him to land 5-8 kills. Well he does that in many other planes too. I love the Mosquito and it is a hard plane to fly then switched to P38. I'll take a mosquito anyday due to my like of gunnery. Spit 5's are fun to fly but I ultimately love the 8 with wing tanks. I do feel though that flying the spits for almost a year did hurt me trying to swich over to american planes with 50cals.