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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: wrag on August 22, 2008, 11:27:08 AM
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Looked at this stuff and had to laugh :rofl and then I thought more about it and I was :(
Thought I'd share it with all.............
Any of this applies?
http://townhall.com/columnists/JohnHawkins/2008/08/22/25_reasons_you_might_be_a_liberal_part_2
Some Obama stuff here.....
http://www.rightwingnews.com/mt331/2007/10/obamas_patriotism.php
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You may be a right winger if,
you spend your day copy and pasting from right wing websites. How about coming up with some original material for a change.
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You may be a right winger if,
you spend your day copy and pasting from right wing websites. How about coming up with some original material for a change.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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You may be a right winger if,
you spend your day copy and pasting from right wing websites. How about coming up with some original material for a change.
Wrag just got pwned!
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You may be a right winger if,
you spend your day copy and pasting from right wing websites. How about coming up with some original material for a change.
:aok
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wrag, you know the libbys have no sense of humor, unless it makes fun of bush and the "neocons".
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These was said by someone else at a peace rally some time ago but it is so true:
"Communism only killed 10,000,000 people, let's give it another chance"
War never solve anything, except the holocaust, fascism, communism!
just a couple but they fit.
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You may be a right winger if,
you spend your day copy and pasting from right wing websites. How about coming up with some original material for a change.
Like I told someone else you don't like what I post, or the way I post, DON'T READ IT............. :t :devil
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These was said by someone else at a peace rally some time ago but it is so true:
"Communism only killed 10,000,000 people, let's give it another chance"
War never solve anything, except the holocaust, fascism, communism!
just a couple but they fit.
What? lol
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somewhere in the mind of man, both are wrong. one shouldn't have to be a communist to do what is right for others, nor should he have to be a capitalist to reap the fruits of his labor.
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skyrock.. I don't think you get it.... it is fine in my mind if anyone wants to give his own money away to any charity or even the government.
Where the liberal socialist commie part comes in is when the same guy feels he has the right to confiscate and redistribute the wealth of others.
lazs
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Corn on the ground?? Check out the Video "The Corporation" on You Tube.
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somewhere in the mind of man, both are wrong. one shouldn't have to be a communist to do what is right for others, nor should he have to be a capitalist to reap the fruits of his labor.
Nor should the government dictate/hamper either.
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skyrock.. I don't think you get it.... it is fine in my mind if anyone wants to give his own money away to any charity or even the government.
Where the liberal socialist commie part comes in is when the same guy feels he has the right to confiscate and redistribute the wealth of others.
lazs
Does this help?
"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking
others to live as one wishes to live." Oscar Wilde Anglo-
Irish author.
and then there is always this...
"The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free
to do then in what we are free not to do." Eric Hoffer
American philosopher.
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Where the liberal socialist commie part comes in is when the same guy feels he has the right to confiscate and redistribute the wealth of others.
lazs
I agree, but much of the wealth in this country was acquired in a less than honorable manner. Parts of capitalism are downright evil in their greed driven rape of their fellow man. How do you feel about the Federal Reserve, Lazs?
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I agree, but much of the wealth in this country was acquired in a less than honorable manner. Parts of capitalism are downright evil in their greed driven rape of their fellow man. How do you feel about the Federal Reserve, Lazs?
Sounds like a graduate of the new commie martyr amerikan edumacational system.
'you got money, yah must be an enemy of the people'.
Much of the wealth of this country lies in the hands of people that actually earned it... most of them started out as immigrants or poor and had a work ethic and desire to succeed. Most of the folks that grew up here find that somehow reprehensible behavior... and would rather be a system parasite than actually create new jobs, new businesses and grow thier wealth thru hard work.
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Sounds like a graduate of the new commie martyr amerikan edumacational system.
'you got money, yah must be an enemy of the people'.
Much of the wealth of this country lies in the hands of people that actually earned it... most of them started out as immigrants or poor and had a work ethic and desire to succeed. Most of the folks that grew up here find that somehow reprehensible behavior... and would rather be a system parasite than actually create new jobs, new businesses and grow thier wealth thru hard work.
lolz, how much do you pay in taxes? How many of those taxes are indirectly going to some fat cat? Grey areas, and laws that allow outright robbery of the middle class are rampant in our system. I will never like it, call me what you will. It's like a republican believing the Clintons gained their wealth legally.
So, what do you think about the Federal Reserve?
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lolz, how much do you pay in taxes? How many of those taxes are indirectly going to some fat cat? Grey areas, and laws that allow outright robbery of the middle class are rampant in our system. I will never like it, call me what you will. It's like a republican believing the Clintons gained their wealth legally.
So, what do you think about the Federal Reserve?
I pay the same as most working americans.. last year, 31% of my income. I live in the most powerful western democracy in the world. We do great things... have done great things. Hopefully, will continue doing great things. While the waste and pork and corruption sucks, trading what we have for anything else out there, anywhere else, would be far worse than what we have. Can it be better? Sure. Lets work for that.
But I don't begrudge paying my fair share of taxes... nothing is free. Not even freedom.
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Skyrock, it SHOULD be obvious that people do far better in countries that value liberty, capatilism and democracy.
Even the socialist and communist countries have learned that they will crash and burn if they do not embrace capitalism to some degree.
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I pay the same as most working americans.. last year, 31% of my income. I live in the most powerful western democracy in the world. We do great things... have done great things. Hopefully, will continue doing great things. While the waste and pork and corruption sucks, trading what we have for anything else out there, anywhere else, would be far worse than what we have. Can it be better? Sure. Lets work for that.
But I don't begrudge paying my fair share of taxes... nothing is free. Not even freedom.
I pay mine as well. You must be reading more into my post, never did I say I wanted any other form of government, just that my government do what is right. :aok Many laws were written specifically to legally steal part of our hard earned money, and I will never like that part of "Our great country".
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I pay mine as well. You must be reading more into my post, never did I say I wanted any other form of government, just that my government do what is right. :aok Many laws were written specifically to legally steal part of our hard earned money, and I will never like that part of "Our great country".
Yup... so go after the senators that 'ok' pork.
One of the poll agencies ran a poll awile back, the question was : Is Your Senator/ Congressman Corrupt?
The answer was, nationally, an overwhelming 'No.' This was at the same time congress had a single digit approval rating with the same poll agency.
Seems folks are convinced THEIR congressman is ok, it's all the other ones that are corrupt.
Change won't occur till we ALL refuse to send back an incumbent.
ALL INCUMBENTS. Local, state and federal.
So, if you want change.. change your politicians.
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Yup... so go after the senators that 'ok' pork.
One of the poll agencies ran a poll awile back, the question was : Is Your Senator/ Congressman Corrupt?
The answer was, nationally, an overwhelming 'No.' This was at the same time congress had a single digit approval rating with the same poll agency.
Seems folks are convinced THEIR congressman is ok, it's all the other ones that are corrupt.
Change won't occur till we ALL refuse to send back an incumbent.
ALL INCUMBENTS. Local, state and federal.
So, if you want change.. change your politicians.
agree! :aok
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"Where the liberal socialist commie part comes in...."
Isn't that a contradiction in terms?
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Sry for butting in here Skyrock but my problem is with your statement:
"somewhere in the mind of man, both are wrong. one shouldn't have to be a communist to do what is right for others, nor should he have to be a capitalist to reap the fruits of his labor."
Capitalism is not evil. It is people who are corrupt. Capitalism exists outside of partisan political parties. Capitalism occurs naturally. Anywhere that governments set up a forced communist or socialist system, they have to expend enormous effort to stamp out free market capitalism. Yet in spite of their efforts, huge blackmarkets will persist. Those at the highest levels of communist and socialist states will engage in it. Capitalism is the only way for economies to thrive long term.
We DO have to be capitalists to enjoy the fruits of our own labor. Communists and socialists want to enjoy the fruits of somebody else's labor. Coerced redistribution will ALWAYS ruin the human spirit of both those who are coerced and those who receive the benifit of the coercion. It will always tank the economy eventually.
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I live in the most powerful western democracy in the world...
nothing is free. Not even freedom.
Regarding the 1st part....Are you SURE?
Or does the line, from the pledge of allegiance, "and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands" mean anything to you?
Regarding the 2nd part .... agreed.
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These was said by someone else at a peace rally some time ago but it is so true:
"Communism only killed 10,000,000 people, let's give it another chance"
War never solve anything, except the holocaust, fascism, communism!
just a couple but they fit.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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the neocon apologists crack me up... so what do you call it when those neocommies levy a tax on the rest of the world by devaluing the world's reserve currency by an extra 10% a years... just to maintain you living beyond your means. :lol
or when those commies invade another country under false pretenses... fester a civil war and then jackboot their own hydrocarbon law upon the battered indigenous people... a law that effectively confiscates and redistributes the majority of iraq's oil wealth to foreigners for some 30 years.
sure... the neocons and their apologists like to drape themselves with the flag... but they're the worst of all the socialists... they like to privatize the profits and socialize the loses.
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they like to privatize the profits and socialize the loses.
very interesting
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the neocon apologists crack me up... so what do you call it when those neocommies levy a tax on the rest of the world by devaluing the world's reserve currency by an extra 10% a years... just to maintain you living beyond your means. :lol
or when those commies invade another country under false pretenses... fester a civil war and then jackboot their own hydrocarbon law upon the battered indigenous people... a law that effectively confiscates and redistributes the majority of iraq's oil wealth to foreigners for some 30 years.
sure... the neocons and their apologists like to drape themselves with the flag... but they're the worst of all the socialists... they like to privatize the profits and socialize the loses.
i don't understand what you said, but i did not go to berkely u, could you explain in words that a gun an bible owning redneck would understand.
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Whats it matter how much our Government taxes us, they just spend it on Iraq.
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they like to privatize the profits and socialize the loses.
:rofl :rofl
Boy aint that the truth in light of the Mortgage bailout! That is pure socialism.
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Whats it matter how much our Government taxes us, they just spend it on Iraq.
You're right, that's all it is spent on....the entitlement programs are funded by donations from good-willed people.
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Regarding the 1st part....Are you SURE?
Or does the line, from the pledge of allegiance, "and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands" mean anything to you?
Regarding the 2nd part .... agreed.
Enh? Wrag... I don't get the question. Brain Freeze here...
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He means that we are a representative republic, not a true direct democracy.
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oh... crap, we're hardly a republic or a democracy.
...sad truth.
Last time I checked we were more of a corporate fascist state than either of the above. But, people wig out when you use the 'f'' word in politics, so I guess they'll have to call it something else in the history books.
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You may be a right winger if,
you spend your day copy and pasting from right wing websites. How about coming up with some original material for a change.
For the most part, it's true.
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Enh? Wrag... I don't get the question. Brain Freeze here...
Sorry........
I think when we are in any discussion that involves our form of government we should call it by what it is...........
It is NOT a Democracy, NEVER has been a Democracy, and it was NEVER intended to be a Democracy.
What we have here is ????????????
"The great mass of people . . . will more easily fall victim
to a big lie than to a small one."
Adolf Hitler (1889-1945)
German dictator
The individuals that got together and came up with our form of government were classically educated.
They were FULLY aware of the Greek Democracies and REJECTED that form of government for our nation. The MAJORITY does NOT rule here! We have a Bill of Rights and efforts were made to PREVENT the majority from ruling over the minority.
IIRC Benjamin Franklin answered with a Republic IF we can keep it..
Seems to me we ought to be more careful about calling our form of government something it isn't.
Some might call my reaction nit pickin but............
I've been running into more and more young people that............
I'm beginning to think on that old saw about telling people a lie often enough and they will come to believe it is the truth...................
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oh... crap, we're hardly a republic or a democracy.
...sad truth.
Last time I checked we were more of a corporate fascist state than either of the above. But, people wig out when you use the 'f'' word in politics, so I guess they'll have to call it something else in the history books.
OK :lol
Sadly i'm thinkin your evaluation is closer to the truth then many I've seen. :salute
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For the most part, it's true.
As I've answered others............
If you don't care for what I post you are most welcome to NOT read it........... :rock
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oh... crap, we're hardly a republic or a democracy.
...sad truth.
Last time I checked we were more of a corporate fascist state than either of the above. But, people wig out when you use the 'f'' word in politics, so I guess they'll have to call it something else in the history books.
...and here's the definitive answer.
You might be a liberal IF... you think a corporate fascist state isn't such a great idea.
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Last time I checked we were more of a corporate fascist state than either of the above.
Hang, over coffee, watch the You Tube installments of the movie "The Corporation." Tell me what you think. It isn't boring.
hap
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skyrock.. since I think the only function of government is to raise an army and to provide the court system then you can probly figure out how I feel about a federal reserve.
I have no idea who is rich and didn't earn it and who is rich and earned every cent and deserve it.. not my call. that is what a court system should address.
It seems that all of us want smaller government for everyone but ourselves.. we seem to want more and more government in our own lives so far as safety nets and giveaways.
None of us seem to think that we have enough and that it is the fault of anyone who has more than us.
democracy fails when people realize that they can vote themselves goodies at someone elses expense.. and.. aquire the will to do so.
lazs
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skyrock.. since I think the only function of government is to raise an army and to provide the court system then you can probly figure out how I feel about a federal reserve.
I have no idea who is rich and didn't earn it and who is rich and earned every cent and deserve it.. not my call. that is what a court system should address.
It seems that all of us want smaller government for everyone but ourselves.. we seem to want more and more government in our own lives so far as safety nets and giveaways.
None of us seem to think that we have enough and that it is the fault of anyone who has more than us.
democracy fails when people realize that they can vote themselves goodies at someone elses expense.. and.. aquire the will to do so.
lazs
Yup. The freaky thing about democracy is 51% of the population gets to dictate terms to the other 49%.
Not exactly what the 49% had in mind when they elected to play the game. ;)
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Yup. The freaky thing about democracy is 51% of the population gets to dictate terms to the other 49%.
Not exactly what the 49% had in mind when they elected to play the game. ;)
How so?
This is not a direct democracy, meaning that the "popular vote" (51% of the population) does not dictate terms.
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How so?
This is not a direct democracy, meaning that the "popular vote" (51% of the population) does not dictate terms.
Agreed. But the population doesn't know that. The reality is about 35% of the population votes. Their mis-conceptions, cherished delusions, really; are what all the election hoopla is about.
Smoke and mirrors.
All Hail the 'new' Corporate Amerika... same as the old Corporate Amerika.
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How so?
This is not a direct democracy, meaning that the "popular vote" (51% of the population) does not dictate terms.
It is for almost everything but the presidential election. Aren't most state elections decided with a simple plurality?
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It is for almost everything but the presidential election. Aren't most state elections decided with a simple plurality?
Yes. That just gets people in office. When it comes to getting laws passed what the majority of the people want does not come into play. It's the majority of the people that were elected into office. And to think that the majority of those people in office have the "people's interest" in mind when making decisions is a far-fetch notion.