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Title: Guitar players!
Post by: Icefox on August 22, 2008, 11:52:24 AM
We are having some trouble trying to identify this particular electric guitar. MY grandfather purchased it at a pawn shop along with a boatload of other goodies for about $40 all together. He subsequently gave it to my father.

The word "Alembic California Special" have been painted on the headstock but the folks at Alembic claim it to be a forgery and not a genuine Alembic. We also thought it might have been a Fender Stratoaster but the good folks on the Fender message board disagree, saying it's probably homemade.

Our family friend and guitar expert believes to have been made in the late 50s to early 60s.

I took some better pictures of it. Anyone have any idea what this might be?

The body
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/IMG_0637.jpg)

The body again
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/IMG_0655.jpg)

Body detail
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/IMG_0640.jpg)

Back of the body
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/IMG_0642.jpg)

Peering down the bathtub
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/IMG_0643.jpg)

Headstock detail. The "Alembic" logo here is actually painted on, not a sticker. That number under it reads SN927180
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/IMG_0641.jpg)

Back of the headstock
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/IMG_0649.jpg)

Neck heel. The number 180 is penciled in the lower left corner
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/IMG_0646.jpg)

Neck pocket
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/IMG_0650.jpg)

Detail of electronics
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/IMG_0654.jpg)

We're just curious about this. It's an interesting guitar and plays quite nice, either way.
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: SkyRock on August 22, 2008, 12:01:03 PM
http://www.alembic.com/ :aok
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: JAGED on August 22, 2008, 12:10:14 PM
I would guess that it's a mod job.  Fender body with an Alembic neck? People do that all the time...
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: Icefox on August 22, 2008, 12:13:31 PM
It might be something like that. Trouble is, the serial number there isn't an Alembic number and even if it was it places the guitar at being built in 1992. This looks far older than that. If it's a Fender serial, it's a Signature series from the late 80s which also doesn't fit. The neck and body are original, though, so says the same guitar expert we took it to.

Fender's logo is also missing from the saddles.

It's a mystery, indeed.  :confused:

And Skyrock? That's the first place I went to. I posted on their message boards and had one of the owners of the company tell me it was a forgery. I'd guess he'd know better than anyone.  :D
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: Thruster on August 22, 2008, 12:59:11 PM
Is the pickup selector 3 or 5 position? It doesn't look quite like a strat body but that could be me. The finish looks pretty fresh also. I'm guessin some kind of Matsumoku frankenstein.

What do the tuners say?
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: DiabloTX on August 22, 2008, 01:13:56 PM
You know what, that looks like a Hondo II Strat from the '80s.  Strictly low-budget.

Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: Icefox on August 22, 2008, 01:44:47 PM
Looks like Diablo nailed it.

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y60/BlueFox2007/Hondo.jpg)

At least it didn't cost anything!  :D
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: Mojava on August 22, 2008, 02:16:38 PM
 Wow DiabloTX  that was an excellent guess. :salute
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: DiabloTX on August 22, 2008, 05:36:45 PM
Thanks.

But it wasn't a guess.

It was a brilliant deduction!

Those look like D'Addario strings, too, btw.
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: squealer on August 22, 2008, 05:43:27 PM
Those look like D'Addario strings, too, btw.

Bollocks, there Ernie Ball super slinky's..
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: DiabloTX on August 22, 2008, 05:52:03 PM
No, if they were Ernie Ball's the B & E strings would be broken.
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: squealer on August 22, 2008, 05:58:36 PM
No, if they were Ernie Ball's the B & E strings would be broken.

Well in your case i'll agree. As a result of your superior wrist strength action.. :noid
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: 1pLUs44 on August 22, 2008, 06:00:25 PM
Slinky Strings are t3h l337 :rock
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: DiabloTX on August 22, 2008, 06:32:41 PM
Well in your case i'll agree. As a result of your superior wrist strength action.. :noid

If you ain't using your wrist, you ain't doing it right.
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: Roscoroo on August 22, 2008, 08:55:36 PM
If you ain't using your wrist, you ain't doing it right.

thats what she said  :P

yea it looks like a hondo .but I bet it was built by hondo for Alembic ,or distributed by Alembic .
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: Yeager on August 22, 2008, 10:31:17 PM
alembic is ultra high end stuff.  Nothing they make should look like anything even remotely resembling a standard factory made instrument.

I seriously doubt they would even allow their name to be used on any copy.

Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: DiabloTX on August 22, 2008, 11:29:36 PM
The first guitar I ever bought was a 1981 Hondo II bass.  White with a black pickguard, the thing looked like a Fender P-bass to me.  Fell in love with it and mowed lawns until I had enough money to take it out of lawaway.  It was a cheap POS but you could have fooled me.  I loved that guitar.
Title: Re: Guitar players!
Post by: Mr No Name on August 22, 2008, 11:31:01 PM
yeah the cheap tremolo tail piece was a dead giveaway.  It may be late 80s to mid 90s.  how does it play?  btw when using ernie ball, always get the rps!