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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: AKDejaVu on August 12, 2001, 08:58:00 PM
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Give a strat point system... or some kind of progress indicator.
Basically, there should be factories, buildings and so forth that should be established based on time period and terrain.
If its later in the European theatre, factories are set up throughout Europe. The allied forces must destroy these factories to force a reset of the arena. These factories never rebuild. If the allies don't successfully destroy all of them within 7 days, the axis wins the battle and the arena is reset. There should be enough structures that this is a challenging task... and enough ack to ensure that single bombers flying in the wee hours of the morning won't do it unobstructed.
Part of this would mean that there would actually be a 12 hour limit on country changing. Right now, that is just too prevelant and leads to much of the skewing I see in the arena.
Give each side specific goals... let them figure out how to go about them. Make those goals somewhat corresponding to the time period and location from WW2.
That way, we don't have to turn this into a game that has flight simulation in it. It can be a combat sim.
AKDejaVu
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The only way I want to see field captures is with massed armor and large numbers of troops required, 100 troops sounds about right to me.
This would simulate combat operations better than allowing 1 C-47 to drop on a deacked and vulched field, only M-3s and LVTs allowed for capture.
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Another idea would be to do away with rebuild times all together. Rebuilds should only occur when one side brings things to repair the field.
A goon with troops to rebuild ack (after 30 minimum minutes). X amount of cargo to fix an FH or BH or VH. Something so that fields aren't automatically back up in 30 minutes. The railways/roads can also be used to accomodate this.
There needs to be some way of hurting the enemy with field strikes that was comparable to what bombing a field would accomplish in WW2. The cost should be high, though not unrecoverable.
AKDejaVu
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Good ideas Jihad and AKDejaVu but maybe only 30-50 troops to capture base.I'd like to see that in MA too.
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I'd rather not see any base capture possible.
AKDejaVu
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Well Dejavu, good idea, and it would be fun and hopefuly it would give us alot of Historical sence if there were enough players in the arena, wich I hope it would be.
I think however, that this might require a completly new build up of the game, not sure if HTC wanna spend time on it for one arena :(
Hopefully, they can though, and with 1.08's new Strat system with trains and roads etc, we might get some better strat in there.
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After reading the leading post I was gonna say exactly what Wilbus just said.
You got some good idea's there DJV (except I still agree with the idea to allow base capture with multiple C47s / M3s / LVTs) but you aint gonna get any of em any time soon. HTC is busy knocking out 1.08 which is gonna include gameplay changes anyway. May as well wait and see what it entails and enable field capture in the CA in the meantime.
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I'd rather see new ideas implimented, than to see the MA imported. Time for a little patience and a lotta thought.
AKDejaVu
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I'm not sure if this future is "on" but doesn't perk points reset after tour is over. If so HTC need to disable perks...or carry them over to next tour.
Or :) create different maps from 1940-45. After you win/loss in that map you move on into new time/map with your new rank. With that rank people can see your skill and you have better access to plane set. So your name tag would read, 2nd LT, 1st LT, Cap, Maj., Lt. Col, Col, Bri. Gen, Lt. Gen, Gen <*your name*>
Higher rank more planes you can drive. If some one shoots that person down they get higher rank and that person, lets say for game purpose person would loose rank.
My idea need little reworking thou
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Naaa LOSE all perk points at map change/ reset.
Base capture in the CT please. Historically it was done, fighter squadrons often would move forward (or backwards) as the front moved several times a year.
30 troops small base
40 troops med base
50 troops large base
All troops must be in the map room within 15 minutes of the first troop.
I think auto rebuild is fine though set to 3 hours or more. Players can hurry the process by carrying construction supplies, ammo, fuel, AA defences, troops.
I gonna post more thots in a separate thread
SKurj
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Check here:
An alternative to the base capture thingy (http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=011121)
SKurj
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Shouldn't this post be in the Combat Arena forum? :D
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Originally posted by Mark Luper:
Shouldn't this post be in the Combat Arena forum? :D
Sorry Mark, the BBS police are above the "law"! ;)
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or maybe this was posted before the combat arena forum was created?
Ah.. even mr luper can feel justified at being a dipshit when it suits him.
AKDejaVu
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Geeeezzus Deja. You callin' Mark a dipshit? What's the matter with you? I have known the guy for a while now, and recal enjoying one particular day flying around with him and <ahem, Deja> his grandson. Correct or incorrect (who cares?) he made a little jab... a joke... HARDLY worth callin' someone a dipshit over. Mark is one of the nicest guys flyin' AH. There's something not right with you dude.
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Nash,
If we still had a search feature it would be simple to see why I reacted the way I did.
My "bbs police" reputation pales in comparison to mark's desire to stop by every thread and call me "bbs police".
Now its to the point where he is himself become what he is making fun of. To the point of looking like a dipshit.
Enough said.
AKDejaVu
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Hmm i see nifty making a reference to BBS police... Not mark...
SKurj
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
Nash,
If we still had a search feature it would be simple to see why I reacted the way I did.
My "bbs police" reputation pales in comparison to mark's desire to stop by every thread and call me "bbs police".
Now its to the point where he is himself become what he is making fun of. To the point of looking like a dipXXXX.
Enough said.
AKDejaVu
Actually, it's the fact that you're one of the most defensive people on this BBS that explains why you reacted the way you did. ;) Lighten up, Deja. :)
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Actually, it's the fact that you're one of the most defensive people on this BBS that explains why you reacted the way you did. Lighten up, Deja.
And the fact that a few people such as yourself and mr luper are more than happy to point that out means what? The dipshit rule still aplies.. smiley face or not.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:
And the fact that a few people such as yourself and mr luper are more than happy to point that out means what?
AKDejaVu
means I am just like you in the fact that sometimes I'll take a jab or plant a barb, whatever you want to call it, at someone. Difference is that when the barb is aimed at me, I just blush in embarrassment if I messed up or I grin, bear it, and say "Touché!" It's not a personal issue I have with you, or whomever else I hurl a jest at. If it was, I sure wouldn't post it on a public forum. Any "personal attack" I make in a public forum/arena is going to be in jest, and shouldn't be taken seriously. In light of that, if you still don't want me to make comments of that nature in your direction, I won't do it again.
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means I am just like you in the fact that sometimes I'll take a jab or plant a barb, whatever you want to call it, at someone.
With mr luper... it went well past that. This thread had been dead for 2 days and he bumped it up with his contribution. Dead for another day and a half and you follow it up with yours.
No participation in the thread other than that.
Use all the smileys in the world. They aren't "get out of jail free" cards. Mr luper's assessment was wrong. Your follow up followed suit.
Difference is that when the barb is aimed at me, I just blush in embarrassment if I messed up or I grin, bear it, and say "Touch".
And if you didn't mess up? Once again.. this thread was started before the new forum was created. How do you respond to being hooked out of season? Me thinks you may have completely missed that.
It's not a personal issue I have with you, or whomever else I hurl a jest at. If it was, I sure wouldn't post it on a public forum. Any "personal attack" I make in a public forum/arena is going to be in jest, and shouldn't be taken seriously. In light of that, if you still don't want me to make comments of that nature in your direction, I won't do it again.
Thankyou for the psych eval. And thankyou for promising not to do it again.
By the way, at what point does jokingly calling someone "BBS police" cease to be funny anymore? When you think so, or when the person you're throwing the phrase at thinks so?
AKDejaVu
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I'm only replying to answer some questions you asked, otherwise I would have let it go.
either on when it ceases to be funny (in regards to any joke, except the LW jokes. those will never die apparently.) You've made it known it's not funny to you, case closed with respect to that.
The "when I didn't mess up" was implied on the "grin and bear it" part. My mistake for not explicitly saying that.
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DJV, check your private messages.
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Originally posted by Nifty:
(in regards to any joke, except the LW jokes. those will never die apparently.)
Why would it suddenly change now? It's been the same tune pretty much since WarBirds, it's not like Aces High invented the LuftWhiner remarks.
-SW
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What was the question?
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I like powdered donuts.
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All the strat talk for the CA is great, I've read a bunch of stuff here and on General that got my interest.
Hopefully CA won't be MA with a historic plane matchup, but I'm not sure how to implement that.
I'm also not sure how much HTC can/will do "just for" the CA since they are still small and still working on getting the MA to where they want it.
I wonder what type of "short-term" things we can ask for in the CA that can already be implemented or might not take a ton of extra work. Otherwise I'm afraid it may be a long wait for some of the cool stuff I've read.
Am I in the right topic? Wasn't sure there for a while.
--Fury
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[ 08-21-2001: Message edited by: Fury ]
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LOL! Got your goat did I AKDejaVu? Sorry it caused a commotion but one point I may make is that it was not a dead topic on my computer, just on yours.
Have a good day :D
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Posts in this thread shortly after the new forum was created. Most were observant enough to notice that. Some where not. Draw your own conclusions.
Point taken.