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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SKYGUNS on August 25, 2008, 03:44:53 AM
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I always Hoe on the first merge, people will insult me for it but i rather Hoe than avoid it allowing you on my six. I consider it a great act of bravery and courage along with making it a bit personal (which always causes him to up again). Its YOUR fault if you decide to head on a 110.
As for colliding i do it all the time when outta ammo/fuel, your not gonna make it might as well take one with you....
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Your going to make a lot of friends here.
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bravery or cowardness
Stupidity.
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Stupidity.
Damn iv gotta to admit to that..
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Your going to make a lot of friends here.
agreed
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I wouldn't call Hoing on the merge brave or cowardly, rather what Oleg said. I can understand it's use in circumstances when you're at a disadvantage, but as your primary method of attack it's rather foolish. Unless of course one enjoys dying... a lot.
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Knob attitude, Skyguns.
There is no such thing as bravery in a computer game, kid.
Whilst there is no courage or bravery in Aces High there is lameness and by the sound of it.... you're awesome at that. :aok
Fail.
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Seems you'd have more fun learning to fly the aircraft of your choice. That way you could actually dogfight in it.
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and here we have an Ace a PeenAce. :rolleyes:
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When someone HO's me on the first merge, the first thing i think is "this is gunna be a easy kill". If you want to win the fight you won't HO. So by all means keep HO'n me.
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See Rules #4, #5
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I always like to get below my target if we're going Head-On, and avoid. That way I can climb up and swing my plane around from stalling, while they're diving down after trying to HO and picking up speed (therefore they can't turn as tight).
However, If I'm in a 109 with 30mm cannon and I see you're going to HO me with a Hurri 1, then I'll HO back. :lol
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I consider it a great act of bravery and courage
It would be if your risk to die was REAL; given the circustances of a game like AH its an unnecessary act of silliness
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I always Hoe on the first merge, people will insult me for it but i rather Hoe than avoid it allowing you on my six. I consider it a great act of bravery and courage along with making it a bit personal (which always causes him to up again). Its YOUR fault if you decide to head on a 110.
As for colliding i do it all the time when outta ammo/fuel, your not gonna make it might as well take one with you....
i can't even type what i want to in here for fear of skuzzy's png button
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Ho'ing on the merge is like lining up with your opponent in the boxing ring to tap gloves before the match only to poke him in the eyes with your out-stretched middle and forefinger then throw a heavy right cross to his chops. When he goes down in a crumpled heap you exclaim joyously to the crowd with arms raised triumphantly, "I am a brave hero, the new Heavyweight Boxing Champion of the World!"... :aok
It may be a "valid" tactic in an air combat game, but it's not sportsmanlike or "brave" by any stretch of the imagination.
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I think im going EMO
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You guys let a BBS newbe hook you that easily? :rofl
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I always Hoe on the first merge, people will insult me for it but i rather Hoe than avoid it allowing you on my six. I consider it a great act of bravery and courage along with making it a bit personal (which always causes him to up again). I
You cannot display courage in a video game, you can only fool yourself into thinking you're something special.
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I always Hoe on the first merge, people will insult me for it but i rather Hoe than avoid it allowing you on my six. I consider it a great act of bravery and courage along with making it a bit personal (which always causes him to up again). Its YOUR fault if you decide to head on a 110.
As for colliding i do it all the time when outta ammo/fuel, your not gonna make it might as well take one with you....
:rolleyes: This rates about a 3 on the WAT scale. Weak Attempt at Trolling.
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I think im going EMO
I think you're well into HOMO territory.
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problem is - its too easy to hit targets here compared with IRL
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LOL scot there hasn't been a post in the last weak without those smiles. :rofl
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Yawwwwwwn.
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Bravery? Cowardice? That really has no relevance to what you are discussing. I would highly recommend that you expand your ACM options Sir.
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There is no real bravery or cowardness in a video game.
But if I were you, I'd get rid of that tasteless avatar. It is easy to find quite offensive. Just imagine switching the nationalities e.g. to UK/USA/French/etc.
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Ho'ing on the merge is like lining up with your opponent in the boxing ring to tap gloves before the match only to poke him in the eyes with your out-stretched middle and forefinger then throw a heavy right cross to his chops. When he goes down in a crumpled heap you exclaim joyously to the crowd with arms raised triumphantly, "I am a brave hero, the new Heavyweight Boxing Champion of the World!"... :aok
It may be a "valid" tactic in an air combat game, but it's not sportsmanlike or "brave" by any stretch of the imagination.
While I wholeheartedly agree with your analogy.
I think the key word in your statement is "sportsmanlike".
How many other "valid" tactics do we see perpetrated in this game that would be deemed "unsportsmanlike" ?
Having said that, I must say that using the "HO" as a major part of ones fighting style is lame, and you will actually be denying yourself the opportunity for what could be an exilarating encounter.
But if I happen to have a con coming at me and is consistantly centering on the nose of my ride------Boom!! One of us is goin down.
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If you're in a 110G you BETTER head-on every target that points its nose at you.
Otherwise you're pretty much dead meat.
Let's be honest... I don't CARE if somebody is a total HO dweeb, they land 6 kills in a 110 you know it was a major feat just to stay alive to GET those kills.
It's like HOing in a P-39D... might be their only chance against 90% of the planeset.
That said, unless I'm totally outclassed by every plane in the fight (i.e. flying a 110) I find HOing puts you in a bad position AFTER the HO, so generally wiser to try avoiding it if you can.
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If you're in a 110G you BETTER head-on every target that points its nose at you.
Otherwise you're pretty much dead meat.
Let's be honest... I don't CARE if somebody is a total HO dweeb, they land 6 kills in a 110 you know it was a major feat just to stay alive to GET those kills.
It's like HOing in a P-39D... might be their only chance against 90% of the planeset.
That said, unless I'm totally outclassed by every plane in the fight (i.e. flying a 110) I find HOing puts you in a bad position AFTER the HO, so generally wiser to try avoiding it if you can.
I've fallen prey to more than a few 110 jockeys who might tend to disagree with the 1st part of your statement.
Just Sayin,
Boner
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Yes, but even IL2s can get kills on fighters ;)
Even Bostons can out-turn C2s if the C2 doesn't understand what's going on ;)
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I guess some fish just like the taste of a good metal hook :rofl
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I suck therefore I HO :rock
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I guess some fish just like the taste of a good metal hook :rofl
:aok
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I suck therefore I HO :rock
i suck, therefore i don't. i don't like sucking. it sucks to suck. i want to get better, so i don't ho.....except for yesterday when yaks kept tryin to ho my seafire with his zeke......... :D
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So, lemme get the general consensus here-
Shootin' somebody in the back is "brave", and confronting your opponent on fairly "even" terms face to face is "cowardly"?
It seems things have changed over the years in that respect...
:D
Something tells me discussions including the terms "bravery" and "cowardice" won't apply well to AH.
MtnMan
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May I please have a refund on the time I have wasted reading this post?
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I always Hoe on the first merge, people will insult me for it but i rather Hoe than avoid it allowing you on my six. I consider it a great act of bravery and courage along with making it a bit personal (which always causes him to up again). Its YOUR fault if you decide to head on a 110.
I think lack of skill is a better description you're looking for.
ack-ack
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I ho I ho its the only thing i know..your just pissed cause i won this ho, i ho.. i ho i ho i ho..i ho its the only thing i know, your wing blew off and down you go, i ho..i ho i ho i ho.
SING IT WITH ME!!
I HO..I HO..ITS THE ONLY THING I KNOW, your just pissed cause your wing poped off, and down..you go..you go.. you go.. you go.
Sucka' mob's :rock
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Skyguns go back and replace "HO" with "deflection shot". And then replace "vulch" with "base capping". THEN replace "gangbanging" with "going where the fight is". And THEN replace "pick and run" with "B&Z". Then replace "run like a girl" with "egress to rebuild advantage".
OK? Do all that and then we'll start over. :rofl
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It's so easy to avoid the HO and turn the tables, I figure that if I get HO'ed by a gun-heavy, hard-to-maneuver enemy like a 110, 190-A8, or IL2, then I had it coming.
But then again, I fly in a "No Whine" zone.
-Llama
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It's so easy to avoid the HO and turn the tables...
-Llama
Not picking on you AT ALL Llama, just going to give your words a perverted twist and relate them to the title of the thread (because it's fun, hehe!) You're statement is convenient, that's all...
To avoid the HO is to avoid a direct confrontation, avoid the face-face conflict. Cowardice? Bravery? I think it's closer to cowardice.
To avoid it and rely on your skill to maneuver into a position where you can kill with less danger to yourself, and a higher percentage of success seems even more cowardly...
Even though I'm a "dodge the HO and turn the tables" guy myself, it is (IMO) the more cowardly stance- ESPECIALLY if I believe my skills are superior to my opponent, and my chances of winning are IMO greater than his... Possibly taking away his best/only chance to beat me (depending on his skill level, E-state, whatever...) and skewing the fight to a style where I have a distinct advantage seems smart, yes, but definately not "brave".
In reality (IMO) taking the HO is one of the few times in AH where it's even remotely possible to display anything remotely like "bravery" in the game. Only two others come to mind- attacking bombers from the low six position, trying to kill them before they kill the CV (or whatever); and flying into a swarm to be surely ganged and picked apart, when you are in a position to avoid doing so (willingly getting ganged, as opposed to foolishly getting ganged...)
What is bravery? It surely isn't accepting a challenge (fight) you think you're going to win...
MtnMan
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Not picking on you AT ALL Llama, just going to give your words a perverted twist and relate them to the title of the thread (because it's fun, hehe!) You're statement is convenient, that's all...
To avoid the HO is to avoid a direct confrontation, avoid the face-face conflict. Cowardice? Bravery? I think it's closer to cowardice.
To avoid it and rely on your skill to maneuver into a position where you can kill with less danger to yourself, and a higher percentage of success seems even more cowardly...ACTUALLY, EVEN IF YOU'RE MUCH BETTER THAN THE GUY you're fighting, by NOT ho'ng, you leave him the oppurtunity for a lucky shot, that could end the fight for you....by maneuvering for a good kill shot, you're taking more of a risk, thus, that is less cowardly than ho'ing.
Even though I'm a "dodge the HO and turn the tables" guy myself, it is (IMO) the more cowardly stance- ESPECIALLY if I believe my skills are superior to my opponent, and my chances of winning are IMO greater than his... Possibly taking away his best/only chance to beat me (depending on his skill level, E-state, whatever...) and skewing the fight to a style where I have a distinct advantage seems smart, yes, but definately not "brave".
In reality (IMO) taking the HO is one of the few times in AH where it's even remotely possible to display anything remotely like "bravery" in the game. Only two others come to mind- attacking bombers from the low six position,attacking bombers from the low six position is in no perversion of the word, brave. that is pretty much blatently obviously, and in-excusably stupid.
trying to kill them before they kill the CV (or whatever); and flying into a swarm to be surely ganged and picked apart, when you are in a position to avoid doing so (willingly getting ganged, as opposed to foolishly getting ganged...)otherwise known as a furball....or were you meaning you alone with 5 or 6 cons? i drop into furballs all the time, and die promptly....but i learn a bit each time. i drop into a max of 3 cons if i'm alone....still die fairly quickly, but i learn a bit as i am.
What is bravery? It surely isn't accepting a challenge (fight) you think you're going to win...
MtnMan
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I think you are brave to openly act as a coward. :O
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May I please have a refund on the time I have wasted reading this post?
Me too.
Mmmmm....steel hook....ahaahaaaha....
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I've fallen prey to more than a few 110 jockeys who might tend to disagree with the 1st part of your statement.
Just Sayin,
Boner
Maybe he needs a few lessons from Dastardly :noid
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Bravery? This is just a cartoon airplane game... Bravery in a game would be like trumping your partners ace in the game of Euchre, especially if it's your wife.
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Stupidity.
this comes from someone who hos every time i see them :rolleyes: get a clue bud :aok
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:rofl
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I am thinking I could start a thread named "TROLL!!!! DO NOT POST IN HERE!!!!!!!!!" and you guys will fill at list 10 pages :rofl
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I think bravery often (almost always?) equates with what others could consider "stupidity" in different circumstances. For example, leaping into the path of a bullet to save someone, or covering a live grenade with your body to protect buddies are legitimately "brave", but obviously not "smart".
The difference between brave and stupid in those cases is simply the reason for the act. Jumping in front of a bullet or on top of a grenade is flat-out, no-questions-asked, STUPID! But, if it's done for good reason, it's "brave".
Attacking the bombers from the low six is stupid. Doing it for a good reason is about as close to bravery as we can see in AH. Admittedly, it's not very close. Kind of like comparing the best paper airplane my son makes with the best fighter Chance Vought made...
Flying into a furball isn't brave. Chances are you're higher and faster than most, who aren't even looking your way... Taking on 5-6 low cons isn't brave either. Taking on 5-6 high cons might be. Defending a capped field might be.
MtnMan
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I am thinking I could start a thread named "TROLL!!!! DO NOT POST IN HERE!!!!!!!!!" and you guys will fill at list 10 pages :rofl
A thread is a thread dedalos... It's all about entertainment in the end...
He may have wanted to see how many people would reply with "Don't post! It's a troll!...)
What better way to defeat the troll than to conduct an actual debate under the guise of a troll?
MtnMan
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As for colliding i do it all the time when outta ammo/fuel, your not gonna make it might as well take one with you....
Ahahhaahahahahah Another numpty who has no idea how the collision model works. :aok
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I think bravery often (almost always?) equates with what others could consider "stupidity" in different circumstances. For example, leaping into the path of a bullet to save someone, or covering a live grenade with your body to protect buddies are legitimately "brave", but obviously not "smart".
The difference between brave and stupid in those cases is simply the reason for the act. Jumping in front of a bullet or on top of a grenade is flat-out, no-questions-asked, STUPID! But, if it's done for good reason, it's "brave".
Attacking the bombers from the low six is stupid. Doing it for a good reason is about as close to bravery as we can see in AH. Admittedly, it's not very close. Kind of like comparing the best paper airplane my son makes with the best fighter Chance Vought made...
Flying into a furball isn't brave. Chances are you're higher and faster than most, who aren't even looking your way... Taking on 5-6 low cons isn't brave either. Taking on 5-6 high cons might be. Defending a capped field might be.
MtnMan
definitly agree with ya on the grenade and taking a bullet for a loved one.......
but in game, when is there a time that it's good to attack a buff from six low?
no matter how you look at it, they're done as soon as they commit to that attack. even in lancs, to bring your guns to bear, you're gonna end up in the tailgunners sights........
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It's like HOing in a P-39D... might be their only chance against 90% of the planeset.
I hope your not serious 39d with 20mm option is very deadly in the right hands
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I am thinking I could start a thread named "TROLL!!!! DO NOT POST IN HERE!!!!!!!!!" and you guys will fill at list 10 pages :rofl
If it was from anyone else, I'd agree that it's a troll but with Skyguns, that's how he really does fly.
ack-ack
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and here we have an Ace a PeenAce. :rolleyes:
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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That said, unless I'm totally outclassed by every plane in the fight (i.e. flying a 110) I find HOing puts you in a bad position AFTER the HO, so generally wiser to try avoiding it if you can.
------> :huh <------ :rofl
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I always figure that if my opponent attempts to HO then I have more skills than he and will work that poor misguided fool to his end.
Generally I try to avoid them. I dove on a spit just a couple of days ago and he pulled up in an attempt to get a HO. I was in a 51 and felt I could get to him before he gets pointed to me. I did. A split second later and I would have collided or he would have killed me. The rascal didn't complain. I'll give him that.
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ouch Skyguns
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I am thinking I could start a thread named "TROLL!!!! DO NOT POST IN HERE!!!!!!!!!" and you guys will fill at list 10 pages :rofl
That's doubtful, most people ignore you. You just havent caught onto it yet. :D
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...like trumping your partners ace in the game of Euchre, especially if it's your wife.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Been there, done that; slept on the couch. :cry
But as to the original post: *YAWN*
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I hope your not serious 39d with 20mm option is very deadly in the right hands
More like, 39d with 20mm is deadly if the OTHER plane is in the wrong hands or on the ground :rofl
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More like, 39d with 20mm is deadly if the OTHER plane is in the wrong hands or on the ground :rofl
obvisously u dont fly it as its not a mk5 spend some time in it learn it ull be surprised
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The main difference between bravery and stupidity is the outcome.
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obvisously u dont fly it as its not a mk5 spend some time in it learn it ull be surprised
um yeah. Now if you were half the dweeb I think you are, you would have done your research and saw that I have not been in a mk5 in a long time. I am lala dweeb :aok
Oh, wana show me?
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Not picking on you AT ALL Llama, just going to give your words a perverted twist and relate them to the title of the thread (because it's fun, hehe!) You're statement is convenient, that's all...
To avoid the HO is to avoid a direct confrontation, avoid the face-face conflict. Cowardice? Bravery? I think it's closer to cowardice.
To avoid it and rely on your skill to maneuver into a position where you can kill with less danger to yourself, and a higher percentage of success seems even more cowardly...
Even though I'm a "dodge the HO and turn the tables" guy myself, it is (IMO) the more cowardly stance- ESPECIALLY if I believe my skills are superior to my opponent, and my chances of winning are IMO greater than his... Possibly taking away his best/only chance to beat me (depending on his skill level, E-state, whatever...) and skewing the fight to a style where I have a distinct advantage seems smart, yes, but definately not "brave".
In reality (IMO) taking the HO is one of the few times in AH where it's even remotely possible to display anything remotely like "bravery" in the game. Only two others come to mind- attacking bombers from the low six position, trying to kill them before they kill the CV (or whatever); and flying into a swarm to be surely ganged and picked apart, when you are in a position to avoid doing so (willingly getting ganged, as opposed to foolishly getting ganged...)
What is bravery? It surely isn't accepting a challenge (fight) you think you're going to win...
MtnMan
Damn, I suddenly have the urge to up a 110.... :lol
Just kidding...
Fred
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I have another thought, maybe it's desperation!
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Living for the HO equals
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