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Title: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 26, 2008, 11:44:25 AM
When the campaign first start, have anyone ever push their luck and see how many kills they get before finally get shot down? I've tried it and got to 50kills before my first death. Though, after the first death I just didn't care enough to fly carefully anymore and just suicide a lot.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Anaxogoras on August 26, 2008, 11:46:12 AM
My best was 48 in the 109K-4 until I collided with a bomber drone.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 26, 2008, 11:48:21 AM
It's fun  trying to not die on the first life ya get in the campaign right Gava, and it's sure as hell difficult trying not to die on that first life!
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: ImADot on August 26, 2008, 11:53:49 AM
I always try to not die. Why would it make any difference when the Tour first starts?

By the way, even though I try to not die, I do it often enough to be really good at it.   :lol
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: DMBEAR on August 26, 2008, 11:55:44 AM
75...Oh wait, I thought this was the death before 1st kill post. Srry.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 26, 2008, 11:56:05 AM
I always try to not die. Why would it make any difference when the Tour first starts?

By the way, even though I try to not die, I do it often enough to be really good at it.   :lol

Well that first life is where I'd run and stuff if I have to while trying NOT to die!
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Latrobe on August 26, 2008, 12:08:12 PM
I usually manage 2-3 kills before I die, and I don't usually land them either.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 26, 2008, 12:08:55 PM
I ran off 108 at the start of a tour once... then got shot down by a 234.... yup   a 234.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: whiteman on August 26, 2008, 12:09:07 PM
66 or 68 can't remember, that was in a F4U. Of course the first death i got cocky and did something stupid.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: waystin2 on August 26, 2008, 12:19:29 PM
I think my record was being killed at least 42 times before I caused a death. :rofl
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: gpwurzel on August 26, 2008, 12:20:30 PM
Eeeeerm.....none, I generally die way before I get to kill anyone else..... :D


Wurzel
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Nilsen on August 26, 2008, 12:20:38 PM
Somewere around 50 if i remember correctly
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Saxman on August 26, 2008, 12:23:26 PM
I always try not to die. I hate getting shot down. When I go up, I'm up to get kills and bring them home again.

However I also tend to be a little aggressive and keep pushing for them.. As a result, I usually end up ending a kill streak with something incredibly ridiculous (not of my making). It was either this or last tour while harassing four F6Fs and an F4U-1 with a squaddie in a pair of 4-Hogs that I bought it when diving on the -1, and the birdcage pulled up at the last minute. RIGHT INTO ME. We both took the collision nose-on, and there was nothing I could do to avoid it. Similar thing happened while toying with a Spit in my 1A. This past Saturday I was making passes on a formation of Ju-88s. Had one drone down, the leader smoking, and as I made a close pass the remaining drone warped right through my plane and took my wing off with a collision.

My best was I think 28. Before dying in some similarly unbelievable fashion.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: FX1 on August 26, 2008, 12:26:12 PM
Shawk has the record of 186 kills no deaths no ditches. Also he did this in a 190d.. BTW his kills per hours were very high.

I never had the dedication to go for a tour record but my best was one flight in a tempest. 54 kills no vulches with 3 rearms... I do have film of the last 1/2 of that flight..
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: CAP1 on August 26, 2008, 12:28:27 PM
When the campaign first start, have anyone ever push their luck and see how many kills they get before finally get shot down? I've tried it and got to 50kills before my first death. Though, after the first death I just didn't care enough to fly carefully anymore and just suicide a lot.


my best is 3 deaths before my first kill :rofl
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BaldEagl on August 26, 2008, 12:31:58 PM
Does killing trees count?
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: CAP1 on August 26, 2008, 12:32:05 PM
Shawk has the record of 186 kills no deaths no ditches. Also he did this in a 190d.. BTW his kills per hours were very high.

I never had the dedication to go for a tour record but my best was one flight in a tempest. 54 kills no vulches with 3 rearms... I do have film of the last 1/2 of that flight..

i know shawk is a good pilot.....but.........

in a 190, having 186 kills without a death, i have to imagine he was hovering over furballs and picking around the edges  :noid
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BillyD on August 26, 2008, 12:35:11 PM
When the campaign first start, have anyone ever push their luck and see how many kills they get before finally get shot down? I've tried it and got to 50kills before my first death.

all proxies :)
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 26, 2008, 12:43:37 PM
i know shawk is a good pilot.....but.........

in a 190, having 186 kills without a death, i have to imagine he was hovering over furballs and picking around the edges  :noid

He probably was but no matter, IMHO. You have to do a lot of things right, and have some luck as well to run off 186 without an incident. That's a big streak for a non perk ride,  regardless of the  circumstances, IMHO.*


* This of course with the exception of someone who ran a streak up the Dextur-yourfup way.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Cthulhu on August 26, 2008, 12:44:09 PM
I ran off 108 at the start of a tour once... then got shot down by a 234.... yup   a 234.
That's what you get for tailgating Steve. ;)
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: thrila on August 26, 2008, 01:08:56 PM
I had 102, 112 or 152 in a spit14 years ago when the spit14 icon would show at 6k.   I can't remember which of those figures is correct, but one of them is.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Saurdaukar on August 26, 2008, 01:39:50 PM
When the campaign first start, have anyone ever push their luck and see how many kills they get before finally get shot down? I've tried it and got to 50kills before my first death. Though, after the first death I just didn't care enough to fly carefully anymore and just suicide a lot.

68.  Last tour.  Mostly in F4U4.

...then I ripped the wings off a 262 going after another 262.   :mad:
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 26, 2008, 01:43:54 PM
I think majority of my kills are from flying 190s and 109s. If I hop onto a Tempest or an F4U-4, my survival rate would go a lot higher. There's no point in flying something I don't like though.  :)
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Saurdaukar on August 26, 2008, 01:49:08 PM
I think majority of my kills are from flying 190s and 109s. If I hop onto a Tempest or an F4U-4, my survival rate would go a lot higher. There's no point in flying something I don't like though.  :)

After spending most of your time in 109's, just about everything is easy mode.

The biggest problem is making the transition from 2-3 round tater bursts at D200 to laying carpets of .50 at D600.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Karnak on August 26, 2008, 01:52:51 PM
33 in the Mosquito Mk VI.

Streak ended when I collided with a Spitfire Mk IX and tore my port wing off.  I was being over agressive on it, trying for a gun solution.  I should have just gone vertical and killed him on the next pass.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: killnu on August 26, 2008, 01:54:12 PM
I know Fester has had some insane runs.  
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 26, 2008, 01:55:33 PM
Yep, the biggest challange I have is the 190's 20mm v. the K4's 30mm and the ally 50 cals. I feel comfortable with the 190's 20mm enough to where most of my kills in 190 are 10-20 20mm fired. I know in my head at a certain angle, and at a certain distance all I need is a .5-1 sec burst to take down a target.

In K-4 I know it usually just 1 tater, but the problem is adjusting the aiming from 20mm to 30mm. The same goes for 50 cals. Since most of the time my comfortable zone is 200m before I open fire, the 50 cals doesn't seems to do enough damage at 1 sec burst to take the enemy down. That and its balistic is different so I have a hard time knowing where to put the piper to lead the shot.

The max I've done in a 190D9 without rearming is 26 kills and about 10 assist, when I land I had 0 ammo and like 1% fuel. In the 51s and F4U I can never get anywhere close to that. Usually I'd get about 10-12 and I'd go bingo totally empty. In 190s I usually have 250 cannon rounds left by the 10th target down, give or take 50 rounds. That's why I found it hard to fly a different plane because I know it will mess up my aiming and comfort zone w/ the 190s and 109s. Well that and the fact I've been a 190 fan since AW1 =)
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Zazen13 on August 26, 2008, 01:56:18 PM
In AW I got 543 kills before my first death, I augered. That camp I never actually got shot down by a person, my K/D was like 133 to 1...In AH, my highest was 97 kills before I got killed by a bomber's defensive fire. AH is way harder to keep a killstreak going as there's collisions, HO's, synced buff formation lasers, much more and effective AA in various forms, etc. Anyone who kills 100+ without dying and can keep a decent K/T is deserving of a medal of some sort, that's no easy feat in any plane as bad luck alone is going to kill you eventually.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Anaxogoras on August 26, 2008, 02:15:17 PM
In AW I got 543 kills before my first death, I augered. That camp I never actually got shot down by a person, my K/D was like 133 to 1...In AH, my highest was 97 kills before I got killed by a bomber's defensive fire. AH is way harder to keep a killstreak going as there's collisions, HO's, synced buff formation lasers, much more and effective AA in various forms, etc. Anyone who kills 100+ without dying and can keep a decent K/T is deserving of a medal of some sort, that's no easy feat in any plane as bad luck alone is going to kill you eventually.

The first time I read that AW didn't have collisions and reduced the effectiveness of HO shots I was in disbelief...talk about training wheels. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: CAP1 on August 26, 2008, 02:33:10 PM
The first time I read that AW didn't have collisions and reduced the effectiveness of HO shots I was in disbelief...talk about training wheels. :rolleyes:

i used to fly RR euro in AW. never even knew i could look at my k/d ratio anywhere there. i just went up, flew, fought, died, killed, and bombed.

 biggest thing i remember not liking was how easy it was to kill or be killed in a p38 due to the " hit bubble".

biggest thing i likes was that if i entered a 1-1 or a 1-2 or whatever, the fight normally ended up that way. no hotards, but all god fights. some of the best i remember were with rocky.

dam i loved flying against him, and tuefl.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Brooke on August 26, 2008, 03:07:14 PM
I ran off 108 at the start of a tour once... then got shot down by a 234.... yup   a 234.

That is impressive in both respects! :)
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Zazen13 on August 26, 2008, 03:18:13 PM
The first time I read that AW didn't have collisions and reduced the effectiveness of HO shots I was in disbelief...talk about training wheels. :rolleyes:

Well, not having HO's actually made fights more interesting IMHO. But, the reason for no HO's or collisions was largely technologically. Back then people were using 1200-9600 baud modems with an average delay 10 times what we have now.. So, it was kind of impractical to have that kind of thing. You just think the collision model seems flawed in AH sometimes, imagine how it would have seemed back then.  :O
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Chalenge on August 26, 2008, 03:31:06 PM
I forgotten what my best was but it was way up there and I got tired of it. Im pretty sure if I tried hard I could manage a 50-60 k/d every tour. Its always something stupid that gets you killed doing things like this like fleet ack or a disco.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Mr Blue on August 26, 2008, 03:50:47 PM
I usually manage 2-3 kills before I die, and I don't usually land them either.

yep.. same here
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: crockett on August 26, 2008, 04:16:13 PM
I know Fester has had some insane runs.  

Yea I know when I first joined the Muppets he was on a run like that in his K4. I think he was upwards of around 130 or somewhere around there before someone got a kill on him. For some reason though I thought the record was closer to 250 not 170ish.

I don't ever have to worry about my K:D because undoubetly the first few days of the tour I manage to fly my absolute worst. I'm always in the can't hit nothing and auger chasing a numbers guy mode the first two days..  :lol
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: A8TOOL on August 26, 2008, 05:03:30 PM
I never thought of seeing how far i could get without being killed and never rearm unless ord is out.

I'll fight till dead or outta fuel/ammo. I get nervous when cannon gone and RTB if i can.

 I have run from a fight or two... usually when incoming enemy out #'s any chance of my survival, can't lose / find solution for zeke or high alt B&Z'er holding me up for incoming

5-7 kills in a spit-8 not uncommon. My personal best without reload was 10

12 in a Nik fighting alone

8 in a Ki near a CV

6 in an F4u Winging

Those are the ones I remember anyway. I fly a long list of planes.

Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Masherbrum on August 26, 2008, 05:05:53 PM
i know shawk is a good pilot.....but.........

in a 190, having 186 kills without a death, i have to imagine he was hovering over furballs and picking around the edges  :noid

Wrong, he was in the thick of it.   I cleared his tail, he put "his goal" on the back burner a few times and cleared me.   

Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on August 26, 2008, 05:13:00 PM
My fav was me an Troche, on one day when the knit horde was steam rolling bish bases, me, him, and 3 others got into P-51s and held one base against 30+ knits for almost 15 minutes.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Banshee7 on August 26, 2008, 06:45:47 PM
Wrong, he was in the thick of it.   I cleared his tail, he put "his goal" on the back burner a few times and cleared me.   



that sounds correct....and i wasn't even there..... (prays for brownie points from the CO :pray)
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Getback on August 26, 2008, 06:56:51 PM
I'm not sure if you mean on one sortie. Otherwise I think my best is 36 and I never died (In spite of myself). Luckiest camp I ever had. It was camp 98.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: 321BAR on August 26, 2008, 07:02:49 PM
I had 102, 112 or 152 in a spit14 years ago when the spit14 icon would show at 6k.   I can't remember which of those figures is correct, but one of them is.
wasn't the spit14 added last year?  :noid ... and i've only been able to manage 17 before i died, mainly cuz i try to help win the war instead of worrying about that thing called "rank"  :lol         :salute to the ones who fly beside me with the same idea. Pulled off a pnzr run of 49 (only 1/2 were camps) always die before the landings though..I get too eager to get that extra kill
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Lusche on August 26, 2008, 07:07:31 PM
wasn't the spit14 added last year  :noid

Spit 14 has been around for a loooong time. Last Spit added was 16, about 3 years ago.

And on topic, got 140 until I misjudged E state of a 109K4 and a tater took of my Tempest's tail. It was more a relief than an annoyance though...
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: 321BAR on August 26, 2008, 07:08:17 PM
wow....where have i been??? oh yeah, i dont remember... find my short bus!!! :rolleyes:
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Motherland on August 26, 2008, 07:08:26 PM
I usually die before scoring a kill. I usually dive in and fly around until I die... which doesn't take long in many circumstances. :)
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Widewing on August 26, 2008, 07:14:56 PM
I'm currently 45/0 flying the A-20G, with about a 50-50 mix of aircraft and armored vehicles. Getting in and out of a furball with my hair can be an adventure...


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: crazierthanu on August 26, 2008, 07:16:11 PM
I fly everything, (mainly p38's and mossies though ;)) And get about 2 kill's a sortie. Longest was about....
dunno 22 or something like that. Really dont care If I die though, I will fight until no fuel, no ammo and no engine. (I never run either :)) I think its more fun If you die   :devil
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: 321BAR on August 26, 2008, 07:16:25 PM
I'm currently 45/0 flying the A-20G, with about a 50-50 mix of aircraft and armored vehicles. Getting in and out of a furball with my hair can be an adventure...


My regards,

Widewing
and you have time to type this???  :rofl :rofl :rofl give me a vid of this and i'll believe it
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: CAP1 on August 26, 2008, 07:17:16 PM
Wrong, he was in the thick of it.   I cleared his tail, he put "his goal" on the back burner a few times and cleared me.   



then i apologize, and  :salute

Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Widewing on August 26, 2008, 07:24:27 PM
and you have time to type this???  :rofl :rofl :rofl give me a vid of this and i'll believe it

(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/A-20kills.jpg)

Meet me in the TA tonight for a "come to Jesus" moment.  :cool:


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: ink on August 26, 2008, 09:00:19 PM
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/A-20kills.jpg)

Meet me in the TA tonight for a "come to Jesus" moment.  :cool:


My regards,

Widewing
damm widewing, i think i would like to go to TA with ya, i don't think we have ever crossed guns?

i bet i could learn some stuff from ya, although i don't fly the A20 im a hurri lover,
well <S> on nyour run


my best with out dieing is 9, being out numbered as usual.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: VansCrew1 on August 26, 2008, 09:03:35 PM
My best kill streak was ninety something in fighter mode to 0 deaths. Cant remember how i died tho.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: LaFever on August 27, 2008, 12:39:52 AM
I ran off a streak of 55 kills in a 38 this tour before failing to rope a Yak9T :mad: My P38 "zen" is apparently spent though since I haven't been able to string more than 26 since and last 10 sorties in it barely 1:1 k/d w <40% survival rate. Go figure...
Last tour got 47 mostly in a P47
Previous month was 39 in F6F

It seems to me that two keys to survival are constantly looking around followed by listening to that little voice saying "Dude, there's 26 of them bish the other Knit is on fire!"
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on August 27, 2008, 01:46:13 AM
I'm currently 45/0 flying the A-20G, with about a 50-50 mix of aircraft and armored vehicles. Getting in and out of a furball with my hair can be an adventure...


My regards,

Widewing


Widewing, if we gave you a bb gun, and stuck you in a cessena, you'd still get kills...
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BiPoLaR on August 27, 2008, 01:49:49 AM
Shawk has the record of 186 kills no deaths no ditches.
Wrong bud...fester had 231
all done is a K4 from what i remember
Thanks come again :D
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Bear76 on August 27, 2008, 04:32:46 AM
Damn, I haven't developed my ego to the point that I keep track of these things :( I will work at it.  :D
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Getback on August 27, 2008, 05:10:56 AM
Spit 14 has been around for a loooong time. Last Spit added was 16, about 3 years ago.

And on topic, got 140 until I misjudged E state of a 109K4 and a tater took of my Tempest's tail. It was more a relief than an annoyance though...

I agree Lusche. Once I get my nose bloodied then I'm really ready for combat.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Getback on August 27, 2008, 05:11:59 AM
My best kill streak was ninety something in fighter mode to 0 deaths. Cant remember how i died tho.

I do, Poorly!  :rofl Only kidding Vans.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Getback on August 27, 2008, 05:23:29 AM
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/A-20kills.jpg)

Meet me in the TA tonight for a "come to Jesus" moment.  :cool:


My regards,

Widewing

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

Or maybe a bad gaming experience!
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: SkyRock on August 27, 2008, 07:51:59 AM
Shawk has the record of 186 kills no deaths
There was someone else who beat this.

My record is 129 to start a tour, then I had a comp freeze. :(
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Jing0 on August 27, 2008, 08:08:37 AM
whats a kill?
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: SkyRock on August 27, 2008, 08:22:59 AM
whats a kill?
what you see in the mirror after running into my hog! :aok
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: FX1 on August 27, 2008, 09:52:23 AM
Wrong bud...fester had 231
all done is a K4 from what i remember
Thanks come again :D


Fester was AH1 this is AH2..

Thanks come again
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: VansCrew1 on August 27, 2008, 10:10:22 AM
Fester was AH1 this is AH2..

Thanks come again

Nope, i was there. BiPolar is right fester had 231 kills to no death in fighter mode. Must of been about 5-6 months ago.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BaldEagl on August 27, 2008, 10:27:14 AM
I just have one question.  How the h@ll do you guys do that?  I find either I'm in a mini hoard and have to compete for kills or I'm alone against a hoard and die fighting or I'm in a remote area picking off other loners which kills K/H.

Oh well, it doesn't matter, after years of practice I have the mistake tuned to a fine art (auger, unintentional ram, snapped wing, etc., etc., etc.).

Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Bruv119 on August 27, 2008, 10:31:47 AM
is 231  the target  then?

will give me something to do next month  :D   But wait i promised myself to never fly a temp again!
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Bruv119 on August 27, 2008, 10:32:55 AM
is 231  the target  then?

will give me something to do next month  :D   But wait i promised myself to never fly a temp again!

would it be impressive if i do it in a spit???   or pony ?
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: VansCrew1 on August 27, 2008, 10:38:38 AM
K4 only Bruv.  :aok
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 27, 2008, 10:48:42 AM
231 is the target. Time to warm up the D-9 !
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: FX1 on August 27, 2008, 10:57:01 AM
Kills per Death + 1 115.00 1
Kills per Sortie 3.59 25
Kills per Hour of Flight 8.96 193
Kills Hit Percentage 17.35 22
Kill Points 38379.00 174


That was the best tour i could see for Fester.. I am at work so I cant spend to much time on looking it up. Could someone please show me the tour he did this so we have good number.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 27, 2008, 10:58:27 AM
He did fly it pretty carefully though.

"Kills per Sortie 3.59 25
Kills per Hour of Flight 8.96 193"

I guess that's the main thing, is to be careful and have a high SA.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BnZ on August 27, 2008, 11:26:54 AM
231 is the target. Time to warm up the D-9 !

352 is the target.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 27, 2008, 11:30:43 AM
Oh god 352, you mean Erich Hartmann? He got shot down 16 times, well include ditch, bailed, capture etc.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: SkyRock on August 27, 2008, 12:33:21 PM
Kills per Death + 1 115.00 1
Kills per Sortie 3.59 25
Kills per Hour of Flight 8.96 193
Kills Hit Percentage 17.35 22
Kill Points 38379.00 174


That was the best tour i could see for Fester.. I am at work so I cant spend to much time on looking it up. Could someone please show me the tour he did this so we have good number.
I dont remember Fes getting over 180 or so, but he could have.  The record is from beta and the fella had like 190+ kills and zero deaths for the whole tour.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Panzzer on August 27, 2008, 12:37:04 PM
Back in AH1 (or was it beta), didn't Fishu have something close to 280 kills to 0 deaths in a 190A-8?
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: SkyRock on August 27, 2008, 01:08:50 PM
Back in AH1 (or was it beta), didn't Fishu have something close to 280 kills to 0 deaths in a 190A-8?
Fishu is who I was talking about, and noone has beaten his record.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 27, 2008, 01:10:22 PM
Fishu is who I was talking about, and noone has beaten his record.

Fishu's was due to a bug, not legit kills.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: bongaroo on August 27, 2008, 01:14:19 PM
I've seen lazer go into the hundreds and I think I saw citbria (can't think of his other name) at like 500 something before he was killed one tour.

I was flying with Lazer when he was at 100 something and the vox was hilarious.

I don't have the time or patenience to let dying get in my way of fun.  You have to fly amazingly timid to avoid getting ganged anywhere.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: RATTFINK on August 27, 2008, 01:15:08 PM
I, as a few of my squaddies so eloquently put it is that I, “John Wayne it” when I get to a fight :)   So usually I will get around 4-5 kills before I die.

I gave up on keeping my score up to par along time ago.  This doesn’t mean that I do not try to fly smart, I just like to have fun and it has deemed less stressful, I get enough stress in real life.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on August 27, 2008, 04:38:16 PM
is 231  the target  then?

will give me something to do next month  :D   But wait i promised myself to never fly a temp again!

You arent the only one. I've spoiled myself on updated planes so much, I wont fly the Temp or Typhy...
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 27, 2008, 04:40:39 PM
^_^ we need some ground rule for this. Like No Perkie plane or something. Should be an interesting lil goal since you can only do it once a month and til the first death!
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 27, 2008, 06:24:45 PM
^_^ we need some ground rule for this. Like No Perkie plane or something. Should be an interesting lil goal since you can only do it once a month and til the first death!

There are some rules that have been accepted:  no ditches, or discos.  The disco one is a bummer.. I've lost a couple of nice streaks, in the 80's, to discos. Then again, I had my longest streak ended by a 234 so I'm an unlucky tard. 

Currently there is no "rule" against perk planes but doing it in as perk plane would  cause an asterik to be next to a new record, IMHO.  However, FX1 had a nice streak in a Tempest once that was pretty darned impressive because it was in one flight.  I know he posted it already.. 50 something. I was in his squad at the time and towards the end some of us were in the area to help him but he didn't need it.  The way I remember it, we spent more time staying out of the way than anything else. WTG FX
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 27, 2008, 06:34:42 PM
We should really have a Wall of Fame for kills before first Death, or we can go kills in a certain plane before shotdown. Set some ground rule for it. I think it would be fun. Killing stuff is easy, dying is pretty easy, but staying alive after # of sorties is hard, the odds just stack up so much =/.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 27, 2008, 06:51:16 PM
We should really have a Wall of Fame for kills before first Death, or we can go kills in a certain plane before shotdown. Set some ground rule for it. I think it would be fun. Killing stuff is easy, dying is pretty easy, but staying alive after # of sorties is hard, the odds just stack up so much =/.

Feel free... long kill streaks are not that fun though. Towards the end of my longest one,  a few people were looking for me. And thinking about staying alive above all else was  a little stressful and not as fun as getting in there and mixing it up. Also, if you run off 200 kills but only have like 5 kills per hour.. I doubt very many people would be all that impressed..... no offense.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Becinhu on August 27, 2008, 06:55:29 PM
I once got killed while my engine was still warming up.  OH wait...was this the fastest death post?
 :aok
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: -aper- on August 27, 2008, 07:06:07 PM
Fishu's was due to a bug, not legit kills.

No it was not a bug. Fushu was the best player in AH. The were many strong sticks those days like Hristo, Torque, Mitsu, Fariz, Tbolt, Vila and lots more, but Fishu was the best. Just check his score in beta tour 2. An believe me the flight model in AH beta was much tougher than it is now.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 27, 2008, 07:10:14 PM
No it was not a bug. Fushu was the best player in AH. The were many strong sticks those days like Hristo, Torque, Mitsu, Fariz, Tbolt, Vila and lots more, but Fishu was the best. Just check his score in beta tour 2. An believe me the flight model in AH beta was much tougher than it is now.

I'm not saying Fishu wasn't the absolute God of AH. I never impugned his 733tness so you can rest easy at night.

  Fishu's streak was a result of the volcano bug.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: mechanic on August 27, 2008, 07:21:13 PM
first sortie of a new tour i would always fly into the biggest red mass i could find and make sure i dont get out, stopped me getting any foolish ideas.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 27, 2008, 07:31:24 PM
first sortie of a new tour i would always fly into the biggest red mass i could find and make sure i dont get out, stopped me getting any foolish ideas.

This is good for peace of mind.   :aok
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: -aper- on August 27, 2008, 07:34:52 PM
  Fishu's streak was a result of the volcano bug.

What was you nick when you played beta tour 2 ?
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: redman555 on August 27, 2008, 07:48:49 PM
I usually manage 2-3 kills before I die, and I don't usually land them either.

yea same, on average 2-3 kills, but rarely land em lol, cause i dont head back till friendlys r safe


-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: redman555 on August 27, 2008, 07:52:38 PM
o man that sucks... he almost had it out of the stall...  :salute

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 27, 2008, 10:01:33 PM
Feel free... long kill streaks are not that fun though. Towards the end of my longest one,  a few people were looking for me. And thinking about staying alive above all else was  a little stressful and not as fun as getting in there and mixing it up. Also, if you run off 200 kills but only have like 5 kills per hour.. I doubt very many people would be all that impressed..... no offense.

Easy to fix that? just make sure to qualify or for it to count, ya gotta have at least 10 kill per hours w/ all those kill=)
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: eagl on August 27, 2008, 11:29:17 PM
Every time I tried that, I got picked off by flak from some base I couldn't even see.  I might give it a shot when I get back flying again in a couple of months, but I expect I'll still die from some flak that's beyond ground visual range while I'm motoring from one fight to another.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: SkyRock on August 28, 2008, 01:32:24 AM
Easy to fix that? just make sure to qualify or for it to count, ya gotta have at least 10 kill per hours w/ all those kill=)
then you get what you were doing the last 5 or so tours, looking only for hordes that are sure to devolp into vulchfests.  Doesn't matter who attains it, it's how it is attained that will be most important. :aok
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Gixer on August 28, 2008, 02:03:24 AM
Flying for stats has to be one of the most boring ways to play the game. Whether it's K/D,K/H number of kills what ever. Seeing someone with high stats and all they fly is top tier or perk rides doesn't earn a Salute compared to seeing someone fly and land kills on a regular basis in a high eny ride. And that's without resorting to the usual dweeb tactics of hanging around and picking over enemy fields let alone vulching.

At times this game reminds me of the early days playing Deathmatch, you'd die more and get less kills with the chainsaw but you'd be in hysterics trying to chase people down with it.

(http://powet.tv/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/chainsaw.jpg)

Now that was fun!  :devil


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BiPoLaR on August 28, 2008, 02:32:14 AM
Fester was AH1 this is AH2..

Thanks come again
wrong again,,,you need to back up and think bud
Fester had 231 without 1 death till i whacked him
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2008, 02:37:37 AM

At times this game reminds me of the early days playing Deathmatch, you'd die more and get less kills with the chainsaw but you'd be in hysterics trying to chase people down with it.

(http://powet.tv/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/chainsaw.jpg)

Now that was fun!  :devil


<S>...-Gixer

The original Doom in deathmatch mode was so much damned fun.. I think most fun I've ever had on a cumputer.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Yenny on August 28, 2008, 04:00:04 AM
then you get what you were doing the last 5 or so tours, looking only for hordes that are sure to devolp into vulchfests.  Doesn't matter who attains it, it's how it is attained that will be most important. :aok

^_^ but i suck at vulching. I waste average of 50 rounds per kill on vulching while 20 rounds fer air to air kill!!
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: bongaroo on August 28, 2008, 07:52:05 AM
I'd never be able to compete.  I've been discoing about once a night at least lately.   :cry
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2008, 12:44:44 PM
I wouldn't compete. If I started a long streak I would be more inclined to try to survive rather than kill bad guys and have fun. The times I have run off a streak have been by chance, not design.  Good luck to everyone who tries!   :aok
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BaldEagl on August 28, 2008, 12:47:23 PM
I wouldn't compete. If I started a long streak I would be more inclined to try to survive rather than kill bad guys and have fun. The times I have run off a streak have been by chance, not design.  Good luck to everyone who tries!   :aok

You killed me the other night and I'm a GOOD guy.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2008, 12:49:31 PM
You killed me the other night and I'm a GOOD guy.

You certainly are! I remember seeing your name on the screen but don't remember the circumstances. No doubt you went down heroically?
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BaldEagl on August 28, 2008, 12:52:23 PM
You certainly are! I remember seeing your name on the screen but don't remember the circumstances. No doubt you went down heroically?

Nah... you picked me while I was tied up on the deck with someone else.  It was my own fault though.  I had seen you hovering around up there and simply chose to ignore you thinking I'd finish off the guy on the deck quicker than I was able to.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2008, 01:03:23 PM
Nah... you picked me while I was tied up on the deck with someone else.  It was my own fault though.  I had seen you hovering around up there and simply chose to ignore you thinking I'd finish off the guy on the deck quicker than I was able to.

You mean I cleared his 6?  Picked?   Bah!     :lol

That's something to love about this game.  One minute you are dictating the fight, the next some guys come in, take initiative from you, and you are defensive. You struggle to get the upper hand, fighting from a disadvantage.  If you win, it's thrilling and quite satisfying.  If you lose, you probably still had fun. Ch 200 whines are optional.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: humble on August 28, 2008, 01:17:44 PM
and you have time to type this???  :rofl :rofl :rofl give me a vid of this and i'll believe it

LOL...

1) WW is an exceptionally good stick
2) 1 on 1 the A-20 is perfectly capable of defeating anything it runs into

I dont have the ability to run those kinds of streaks in any plane but I can pull of an exceptional sortie or two from time to time. My best in the A-20 (all air to air) is 11 landed/14 KIA and I've run streaks of 25+ a half dozen times in the A-20 (multiple hops).
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2008, 01:23:38 PM
LOL...

1) WW is an exceptionally good stick
2) 1 on 1 the A-20 is perfectly capable of defeating anything it runs into

I dont have the ability to run those kinds of streaks in any plane but I can pull of an exceptional sortie or two from time to time. My best in the A-20 (all air to air) is 11 landed/14 KIA and I've run streaks of 25+ a half dozen times in the A-20 (multiple hops).

I remember fighting your a20 once.  I had some E over you and it took me what seemed like 10 minutes to kill  you. Was funny. a guy was closer to you than me.. he said "I'll get the a20" You were the only con in the area so I turned towards you as well, at icon range. Before I got halfway there, you had dispatched the guy to the tower.  I can't help but chuckle when I think of that guy, sitting in the tower and scratching his head, "Wha?"
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BillyD on August 28, 2008, 02:50:05 PM
The Havoc along with the B25H are two that definetly can give you a rude shock with a capable stick at the controls. Had it happen more than once  :O
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Getback on August 28, 2008, 05:07:02 PM
I wouldn't compete. If I started a long streak I would be more inclined to try to survive rather than kill bad guys and have fun. The times I have run off a streak have been by chance, not design.  Good luck to everyone who tries!   :aok

Ditto on the by chance.

Here's an idea. Lets post who has the longest streak and go hunt that picker down.  :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: humble on August 28, 2008, 05:28:54 PM
I remember fighting your a20 once.  I had some E over you and it took me what seemed like 10 minutes to kill  you. Was funny. a guy was closer to you than me.. he said "I'll get the a20" You were the only con in the area so I turned towards you as well, at icon range. Before I got halfway there, you had dispatched the guy to the tower.  I can't help but chuckle when I think of that guy, sitting in the tower and scratching his head, "Wha?"

I've never once felt that I needed to hide behind the plane I happened to choose. More often then not the guy who kills me one on one is a good stick...regardless of our respective planes. Your as likely to stomp on my butt pony to pony as pony vs A-20. In fact there are times I feel I have a better chance in an A-20 against someone like you since its hard to really know the limits on the A-20 if you dont know who's driving it. Sometimes one or the other has the initiative and there for some measure of control...but its rare for a good stick to be defeated by a single combination or snapshot (it does of course happen) even when engaging from a disadvantage...most of the time a good stick will put up a good fight and force an endgame of some kind before going down.

Most guys still see the A-20 as a target instead of a threat, if an A-20 is in a +E/+alt state relative to a con its a chainsaw attack waiting to happen :D :salute
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Spikes on August 28, 2008, 05:31:42 PM
Didn't Fester have 200 k/d or something? Then like left the game for a month when he died?
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Gixer on August 28, 2008, 06:11:55 PM
You mean I cleared his 6?  Picked?   Bah!     :lol

That's something to love about this game.  One minute you are dictating the fight, the next some guys come in, take initiative from you, and you are defensive. You struggle to get the upper hand, fighting from a disadvantage.  If you win, it's thrilling and quite satisfying.  If you lose, you probably still had fun. Ch 200 whines are optional.


There is a difference between clearing someones six and jumping in on a 1v1 for a pick. Both of course have in common that your getting an easy kill, given slightly harder then a vulch but not much. Big messy furball and your clearing someones six fair enough, coming across a 1v1 and you drop in for a easy pick is cheap. Especially if you have a rough idea who the con is, and that happens a lot when flying off peek.

If it's a known pilot I even let them rtb if they are on the deck and low on E simply because I have no interest in a easy kill on someone I know. Now if I see a certain Pony around I won't, simply because I still owe you for the cheap pick you did on me few days back when I was mixed up vs four and had just killed the 2nd con.  :D


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BiPoLaR on August 28, 2008, 06:39:49 PM
Didn't Fester have 200 k/d or something? Then like left the game for a month when he died?
he had 231 then i picked him like the twit i was back then (before i was a muppet)
he didnt leave the game though
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Gixer on August 28, 2008, 06:54:58 PM
he had 231 then i picked him like the twit i was back then (before i was a muppet)

 :rofl

No, your still a twit. But now with the usual muppet ego attached.  :D


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 28, 2008, 07:37:53 PM
There is a difference between clearing someones six and jumping in on a 1v1 for a pick. Both of course have in common that your getting an easy kill, given slightly harder then a vulch but not much. Big messy furball and your clearing someones six fair enough, coming across a 1v1 and you drop in for a easy pick is cheap. Especially if you have a rough idea who the con is, and that happens a lot when flying off peek.

If it's a known pilot I even let them rtb if they are on the deck and low on E simply because I have no interest in a easy kill on someone I know. Now if I see a certain Pony around I won't, simply because I still owe you for the cheap pick you did on me few days back when I was mixed up vs four and had just killed the 2nd con.  :D
<S>...-Gixer

I'm sure it wasn't a 1v1 when I killed BE. It was probably with multiple planes from both sides. If it's 1v1, I will ask my teammate if he needs help before entering.

Was I one of the 4? Usually, I'll not bother if there is already a pile on a single guy. In fact I usually taunt them on range vox.  Something like:
"Hey, there's 6 of you on that smoking corsair with the missing wingtip.  Do you guys think you can handle him?"   :lol

Or was it that time that it looked like they were never going to kill you?

I'll always let a friend rtb if they call bingo.  If they don't call but it's obvious they are leaving, I'll ask on 200.  No response, I'll probably run them down.

As for picking me. Well I deserve it.  In a furball I'll take the biggest threat and kill it.  If I miss I usually have a second or third plane in mind as an alternate target. This means people get picked, although I never understood why killin anyone in a furball could be considered picking... it's a furball.  :aok
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Gixer on August 28, 2008, 08:41:13 PM
Was I one of the 4? Usually, I'll not bother if there is already a pile on a single guy.

Yes one of the four but came in late, though it was never more then vs 3 as the P38 never dropped in to engage just kept my SA busy so credit to Anodizer for that.

Heres a link to revive your memory.  :D

http://files.filefront.com/Gixer+vs+4ahf/;11635050;/fileinfo.html

Anyway was a fun little furball, and I thought BiPolar handled the P39 well. Enough for me to consider him more of a threat compared to the first Pony which proved his worth on the first pass.  :lol
 

<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BiPoLaR on August 29, 2008, 02:17:26 AM
:rofl

No, your still a twit. But now with the usual muppet ego attached.  :D


<S>...-Gixer

LOL and that comes from someone like you?... :rofl
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Gixer on August 29, 2008, 03:16:50 AM
If you make a statement like "i picked him like the twit i was back then (before i was a muppet)" you have to expect someone to take a easy shot and make a joke of it. Hence the :D at the end of my statement.


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BiPoLaR on August 29, 2008, 03:31:50 AM
If you make a statement like "i picked him like the twit i was back then (before i was a muppet)" you have to expect someone to take a easy shot and make a joke of it. Hence the :D at the end of my statement.


<S>...-Gixer

To be honest with you, back then i was a twit. Didnt know ACMs from ABCs
Im still a twit in a strange kinda way. I do fly with SkyRock WaX and Scot12b. :D  :noid :noid
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: bongaroo on August 29, 2008, 07:56:25 AM
If they pick you go back hunting them and return the favor.  I like getting <S>'s from people I do that to, the ones that bug me are the ones who get upset on 200 that I picked them.  IRONY!
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BaldEagl on August 29, 2008, 09:00:29 AM
I'm sure it wasn't a 1v1 when I killed BE. It was probably with multiple planes from both sides.

Nope, it was 1 on 1 although I had the equipment advantage (although I don't remember specifically what the other guy was flying).

Like I said, it was my own fault for ignoring you.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: SHawk on August 29, 2008, 12:51:14 PM
Shawk has the record of 186 kills no deaths no ditches. Also he did this in a 190d.. BTW his kills per hours were very high.

I never had the dedication to go for a tour record but my best was one flight in a tempest. 54 kills no vulches with 3 rearms... I do have film of the last 1/2 of that flight..

actually it was 182, check out Tour 73. Was pure luck, shoulda died 10 times. Landed at least 3 times deadstick and several times with 1/2 a wing or missing parts. And still only finished #2 in Fighter LOL :aok
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: Steve on August 29, 2008, 12:53:57 PM
actually it was 182, check out Tour 73. Was pure luck, shoulda died 10 times. Landed at least 3 times deadstick and several times with 1/2 a wing or missing parts. And still only finished #2 in Fighter LOL :aok


Heheh WTG.  Yup there is definitely skill required but as I've always said, and you as well, there has to be some good luck involved.
Title: Re: How many kills before your first death ?
Post by: BiPoLaR on August 29, 2008, 01:26:58 PM
actually it was 182, check out Tour 73. Was pure luck, shoulda died 10 times. Landed at least 3 times deadstick and several times with 1/2 a wing or missing parts. And still only finished #2 in Fighter LOL :aok
thats at the end of a tour.
but like i said. Fester has the record