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Title: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: mipoikel on September 02, 2008, 02:51:31 PM
Just testing google's new "chrome" browser.

After 2min use, so far no problems.  :D

Download http://tools.google.com/chrome/?hl=en
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: Skuzzy on September 02, 2008, 02:55:30 PM
Does it rely on the .NET framework?

First thing Google did after they bought Sketch-Up is to link in the .NET framework.  Ruined a really nice 3D application by bloating it to the moon.
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: mipoikel on September 02, 2008, 03:01:15 PM
Does it rely on the .NET framework?

First thing Google did after they bought Sketch-Up is to link in the .NET framework.  Ruined a really nice 3D application by bloating it to the moon.

I dont think so. Tried fast search about it but didnt find any .NET things. BUT, Im not expert in this area. (if in any) :)

http://tools.google.com/chrome/intl/en/webmasters-faq.html

http://code.google.com/chromium/
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: Skuzzy on September 02, 2008, 03:07:34 PM
Hmm,..guess I need to slap together a trash system and try it out.
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: Denholm on September 02, 2008, 03:27:15 PM
Google has their noses in so much, I wouldn't be surprised if they have their own Hurricane Track Computing system. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: llama on September 02, 2008, 04:31:05 PM
Hmm,..guess I need to slap together a trash system and try it out.

No .NET stuff according to Process Explorer.

The BBS seems to work fine with it.

-Llama
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: 68Wooley on September 02, 2008, 06:06:34 PM
Does it rely on the .NET framework?

First thing Google did after they bought Sketch-Up is to link in the .NET framework.  Ruined a really nice 3D application by bloating it to the moon.

I'd guess a pretty large percentage of XP systems will have the .Net 2 or later framework on them already these days, just like they'll have various JRE's.

What developing in .Net does do is screw your ability to go cross-platform. Mono stilll has too many holes in it IMHO.



 
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: humble on September 02, 2008, 06:31:17 PM
seems to be reasonably decent if nothing really new or exciting...

On the other hand each module runs in an isolated sandbox, so in effect its a VM type of web app.
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: eagl on September 02, 2008, 09:44:25 PM
It seems to work quite well.  I've found one bug with the noaa.gov weather radar looper not recognizing the javascript plugin, but otherwise I have had zero other compatibility issues and zero crashes.  It is of course "beta" and not as customizable as people who really USE firefox might demand, but it's a nearly seamless migration from MSIE and I expect it will become my primary browser even in its unfinished form.  I simply haven't had any showstopper problems except for the javascript issue, and that might be a problem with the website and not chrome.

Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: BoilerDown on September 03, 2008, 10:00:11 AM
Be sure to read the fine print:  http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10030522-56.html

An excerpt:

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"By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any content which you submit, post or display on or through, the services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the services and may be revoked for certain services as defined in the additional terms of those services."
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: Fulmar on September 03, 2008, 10:44:38 AM
Be sure to read the fine print:  http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10030522-56.html

An excerpt:

Yeah I caught that on slashdot.
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: Vulcan on September 03, 2008, 07:08:24 PM
Not bad so far, browsing is snappy. Only issue is some of my java apps I use don't like it.
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: mipoikel on September 04, 2008, 09:31:08 AM
Be sure to read the fine print:  http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10030522-56.html

An excerpt:


they are changing it. :)   http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/google-chrome-license-agreement
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: wabbit on September 04, 2008, 11:01:53 AM
They aren't changing enough. Make sure you read the EULA, before you use this browser. Way too privacy invasive for my tastes.


Wabb
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: Skuzzy on September 04, 2008, 11:37:37 AM
I agree.  More invasive than Microsoft even and that is pretty darn invasive.  I'll be passing on this one.
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: RATTFINK on September 04, 2008, 11:42:05 AM
After review, I'll stick w/ Firefox
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: Mr No Name on September 04, 2008, 06:42:48 PM
Pulling an Osamabama here... I installed it before I uninstalled it.   ;)
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: llama on September 04, 2008, 08:50:29 PM
I agree.  More invasive than Microsoft even and that is pretty darn invasive.  I'll be passing on this one.

Let's not lose our minds, people. The Terms of Service have already been changed from the boilerplate text that the Chrome developers grabbed from one of Google's other online services:

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/09/update-to-google-chromes-terms-of.html

There are many things that I find totally fascinating about Chrome:

- The whole "each tab is its own process" thing, so misbehaving web apps in one tab can't screw around with other tabs.

- The V8 javascript rendering engine is so much faster than anything else I use, it isn't even funny.

- The changes in the GUI (such as Tabs over the address bar instead of below it) show a willingness to totally re-evaluate the browsing interface we all mindlessly just accept it, and make very basic changes to what really makes more sense. Change is gutsy.

- The google testing infrastructure behind it has resulted in the first time I have used a "less than version 1.0" browser that really works properly in what must be 98% of the web pages I check.

Featurewise and speedwise, Chrome is ALREADY better than IE6 and IE7 and Safari. It's much faster and no less compatible with websites than Opera 9.52 (which, BTW, is my main email program, so I use it every day anyway), though Opera has some features that are very innovative. Firefox with my favorite extensions has more of the features I really need every day, but without any extensions, I must say that Crome compares pretty favorably.

When Chrome extensions start coming off the line, Firefox is really going  to have competition, and this first Beta is really impressive for what it is.

-Llama

Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: Vulcan on September 04, 2008, 09:15:59 PM
Must saying I'm liking it so far.
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: eagl on September 04, 2008, 09:28:35 PM
I agree.  More invasive than Microsoft even and that is pretty darn invasive.  I'll be passing on this one.

They changed the license / TOS and the offending part is gone.

As for Java not working right, you just need to install the beta JRE version 6 update 10 and it works fine.

Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: Skuzzy on September 05, 2008, 06:53:43 AM
Yes, I am aware they changed the license.  So that nullifies the group who originally had that paragraph in the license? 

I have been part of companies who had that mentality, and all it means is they will find another way to get done what they really wanted to get done to begin with.  Microsoft is no better, and if I could do without them, I would.  I have a chioce with Google and I choose not to trust them.
Title: Re: Google chrome (Beta)
Post by: SD67 on September 05, 2008, 07:58:51 AM
The big G is a pretty invasive company. Anything that is google related on your system is automatically reporting your online habits one way or another. It's such a shame they have some pretty decent stuff, but I won't be installing that browser.
:noid ?
or not :noid enough? You decide :aok