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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Sonicblu on September 03, 2008, 12:09:12 AM
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I play AH quite a bit and I only recognize Shawk on the list of winners of the Main tour score. How does a person win a tour and you don't recognize them as one of the players in the game. Do they really play the game? When? Where?
I am just curious is see Shawk on all the time and it make sense that he would be up there. How come I never run into any of the other players that are 1st place no less on the tour.
I understand not running into the early and mid war guys because i so rarely fly those arenas.
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I'm from England, I play at GMT hours that suit around my shifts.
Lucky for you really if your not Rook ;)
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I see all the top sticks on often.(top as far as score)
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I'm from England, I play at fighting. I am pretty good at fighting, after all these years at avoiding the fight for score, but now that I have experience, I am now just acting cocky, I will beat your arse unless u ask me to DA, for which I will gladly reply.......I'm English, and score is all I care for!
Spot on tardboi! :aok
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:lol SR.
"You twit"
Get off my ankle :rofl
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I play AH quite a bit and I only recognize Shawk on the list of winners of the Main tour score. How does a person win a tour and you don't recognize them as one of the players in the game. Do they really play the game? When? Where?
I am just curious is see Shawk on all the time and it make sense that he would be up there. How come I never run into any of the other players that are 1st place no less on the tour.
I understand not running into the early and mid war guys because i so rarely fly those arenas.
Well one reason my name might not be familiar is that I took a year off, played a month or two and took another 6 months off, returning just two months ago. I play between 8PM and 11PM West Coast time.
Steve
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See rule 4
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There's around 6000 players. You expect to run into all of them?
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I am just curious is see Shawk on all the time and it make sense that he would be up there. How come I never run into any of the other players that are 1st place no less on the tour.
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As others have eluded to...this game is played by people all around the world. Don't assume just because the creators are in the US (and I assume you are as well), that nobody outside the US plays...or plays during your prime-time. Even across the US, there is a 4-hour time difference from coast to coast.
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:lol SR.
"You twit"
Get off my ankle :rofl
REPEAT PLEASE!!!!
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:confused:
As others have eluded to
alluded
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I'm from England, I play at GMT hours that suit around my shifts.
Lucky for you really if your not Rook ;)
I have to agree with Bruv119... I switched to bish from rook for a few sorties yesterday and ran into Bruv a few times. It didn't go well for me. There are good sticks and good gunners in this game and Bruv119 is both of those. <S> Bruv119
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I think I've seen SHAWK once or twice. I think in order to get the number 1 rank in things he's having to do the gamey stuff all the time. Stuka a strat, land and unload your guns into a target, rinse & repeat type stuff. I'm sure it's exciting as all get out though.
:rofl
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There's around 6000 players. You expect to run into all of them?
Hmm it was in the context of If you are the top score it might make sense that you play enough that I might run into them. I imagine that it is close to the 90-10% rule. 10% play ninety percent of the time. I can understand not running into the other ninety % if they only play 10% of the time.
S anyway
I live in AZ U.S. and play 9:00 am to 11:00 pm range AZ time Maybe that is the reason
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Hmm it was in the context of If you are the top score it might make sense that you play enough that I might run into them. I imagine that it is close to the 90-10% rule. 10% play ninety percent of the time. I can understand not running into the other ninety % if they only play 10% of the time.
S anyway
I live in AZ U.S. and play 9:00 am to 11:00 pm range AZ time Maybe that is the reason
You didn't run into me in August by did once in July. My 51, your 38. I doubt you'll see my name in lights again though. I think the normal fighter score toads took the month off. Score toads like bruv or pacerr will be basck on top again this month. Score toads are easy to spot.
Look at Bruv as an example. He's probably a fine stick and great guy but he'll fly a sortie in fighter mode and then be very careful, fly safely. This can be witnessed by his current score: 8 kills in fighter mode, 8 kills in a 51. When he is really going to fight and actually risk getting shot down, he'll switch his score to attack mode. If you mention this, they'll invariably spout the same excuses: "I brought ord to a base so it was attack mode." In the new tour, Bruv has 11 kills in a hurri, all in attack mode. I doubt he was raiding bases or carrying ord with a hurri. This is a good example of "gaming" the system and it's people like this who render the ranking system irrelevent as far as gauging your progress goes, beyond comparing one's own numbers. As a tool of ranking "skill" it is nearly useless.
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I play AH quite a bit and I only recognize Shawk on the list of winners of the Main tour score. How does a person win a tour and you don't recognize them as one of the players in the game. Do they really play the game? When? Where?
I am just curious is see Shawk on all the time and it make sense that he would be up there. How come I never run into any of the other players that are 1st place no less on the tour.
I understand not running into the early and mid war guys because i so rarely fly those arenas.
The only time you'll see Dextur is if your name is yourfup and sitting on the runway in a bomber.
ack-ack
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In the new tour, Bruv has 11 kills in a hurri, all in attack mode.
I didn't know you could see what mode someone was in when they shot someone down in a certain plane. How do you get that info?
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I didn't know you could see what mode someone was in when they shot someone down in a certain plane. How do you get that info?
Deduction. He has 8 kills in fighter mode, 8 kills in a pony. Self evident.
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The only time you'll see Dextur is if your name is yourfup and sitting on the runway in a bomber.
ack-ack
Don't forget BigLamer :aok
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You didn't run into me in August by did once in July. My 51, your 38. I doubt you'll see my name in lights again though. I think the normal fighter score toads took the month off. Score toads like bruv or pacerr will be basck on top again this month. Score toads are easy to spot.
Look at Bruv as an example. He's probably a fine stick and great guy but he'll fly a sortie in fighter mode and then be very careful, fly safely. This can be witnessed by his current score: 8 kills in fighter mode, 8 kills in a 51. When he is really going to fight and actually risk getting shot down, he'll switch his score to attack mode. If you mention this, they'll invariably spout the same excuses: "I brought ord to a base so it was attack mode." In the new tour, Bruv has 11 kills in a hurri, all in attack mode. I doubt he was raiding bases or carrying ord with a hurri. This is a good example of "gaming" the system and it's people like this who render the ranking system irrelevent as far as gauging your progress goes, beyond comparing one's own numbers. As a tool of ranking "skill" it is nearly useless.
:rofl
I guess you can "fly safe" and get more than 15 kills an hour. :rofl
About 5 more than you, by the way. I guess you better stop flying timid and become more aggressive. :aok
And as if deaths in attack mode don't mean anything. :rofl
Methinks you would be wise to look more closely before casting stones, my friend.
It always makes me laugh that folks say rank means nothing, yet are the first to use the scores to try to "prove" something about how other people play the game. Hilarious!
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:rofl
I guess you can "fly safe" and get more than 15 kills an hour. :rofl
About 5 more than you, by the way. I guess you better stop flying timid and become more aggressive. :aok
And as if deaths in attack mode don't mean anything. :rofl
Methinks you would be wise to look more closely before casting stones, my friend.
It always makes me laugh that folks say rank means nothing, yet are the first to use the scores to try to "prove" something about how other people play the game. Hilarious!
Nothing I said was inaccurate. In the one flight he took he may very well have been to a vulch. Deaths in attack mode mean nothing to fighter mode, and fighter mode is all I am talking about. Try to pay attention. I'm not trying to prove anything. It is self evident. You are defending someone, and attacking me, as if Bruv needed defending. I'm not assailing Bruv, I do not care how he flies. And like I said, I'm sure he's a great guy and very good stick. If he wants to fly for rank, great! I hope he has fun. :)
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I think I've seen SHAWK once or twice. I think in order to get the number 1 rank in things he's having to do the gamey stuff all the time. Stuka a strat, land and unload your guns into a target, rinse & repeat type stuff. I'm sure it's exciting as all get out though.
:rofl
Anytime there is a vulch going on Shawk won't be far away.. :rofl
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Nothing I said was inaccurate. In the one flight he took he may very well have been to a vulch. Deaths in attack mode mean nothing to fighter mode, and fighter mode is all I am talking about. Try to pay attention. I'm not trying to prove anything. It is self evident. You are defending someone, and attacking me, as if Bruv needed defending. I'm not assailing Bruv, I do not care how he flies. And like I said, I'm sure he's a great guy and very good stick. If he wants to fly for rank, great! I hope he has fun. :)
Actually, a lot you said was inaccurate.
Unlike your attempt at cherry picking a small sample of sorties from this tour, I looked at his August tour, since that is what the OP was asking about (pilots on the front page and all). Looks to me like he spends more than a sortie or two "vulching" to get his scores.
And for someone who plays for rank, deaths in attack mode surely count. Your assertion that it does not is quite silly as a result, and is a demonstration of one dimensional thinking -- that only your way (all fighter all the time) is the right way.
And yes indeed you did "assail" Bruv, by saying he only flies fighter mode when it is "safe" and therefore implying his fighter score / rank / kills / whatever measure you like is inferior to a "true warrior" like yourself. You also said he was gaming the system and called into question whether he had any skill at all by saying rank in general was worthless and therefore any rank he achieved was meaningless. Your claims of "I am sure he is a great guy" notwithstanding, anyone who is "paying attention" as you put it can clearly see the attacks. Your "one flight to vulch" comment above is a clear example, as you have no idea how he got his kills, but choose to put it in the most negative light you can.
But, you are correct, Bruv doesn't need defending, and I am doing so only as an afterthought. I just enjoy pointing out the pomposity of some posters from time to time.
But don't worry, Steve, I am sure you are a nice guy and didn't mean it to come across like it did, so I will leave it be. :aok
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Fwiw, I've heard plenty of people brag about the trick of using "attack" when they want to mix it up and die, and "fighter" when they're going to play it safe. It's not playing for rank so much as it's playing for figher-rank only. When I am in attack mode I always carry ordinance and deliver it to target whenever possible.
Anyway, stats are a lot of fun to look at and analyze. The ranking system leaves a lot to be desired (especially for squads), but I find that the kills/hour stat and the emphasis placed on it encourages me to be aggressive.
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You are treading on thin ice here Steve next thing you know..... :rofl hey u stevee u call me a noob u ought to be abkle to take the pain :mad:
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What's score?
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Actually, a lot you said was inaccurate.
Unlike your attempt at cherry picking a small sample of sorties from this tour, I looked at his August tour, since that is what the OP was asking about (pilots on the front page and all). Looks to me like he spends more than a sortie or two "vulching" to get his scores.
And for someone who plays for rank, deaths in attack mode surely count. Your assertion that it does not is quite silly as a result, and is a demonstration of one dimensional thinking -- that only your way (all fighter all the time) is the right way.
And yes indeed you did "assail" Bruv, by saying he only flies fighter mode when it is "safe" and therefore implying his fighter score / rank / kills / whatever measure you like is inferior to a "true warrior" like yourself. You also said he was gaming the system and called into question whether he had any skill at all by saying rank in general was worthless and therefore any rank he achieved was meaningless. Your claims of "I am sure he is a great guy" notwithstanding, anyone who is "paying attention" as you put it can clearly see the attacks. Your "one flight to vulch" comment above is a clear example, as you have no idea how he got his kills, but choose to put it in the most negative light you can.
But, you are correct, Bruv doesn't need defending, and I am doing so only as an afterthought. I just enjoy pointing out the pomposity of some posters from time to time.
But don't worry, Steve, I am sure you are a nice guy and didn't mean it to come across like it did, so I will leave it be. :aok
Let's continue because you've misinterpreted a couple of things. I'm not saying his way of flying is inferior to mine. The fact is, Bruv plays with rank in mind. I'm not saying this is somehow less noble than the way I play.
My way of flying is no measure of skill either. What I mean is, I fly a 51. IMHO a 51 is much easier to survive in the MA than say.. a spit 5. Even though I was ranked #1 in fighters, we know I'm by no means the best stick in the game. Sure, I can do ok in a 51, but put me in say a jug, 38 or hog against some of those guys that fly them regularly and they'd eat my lunch. We could make a list of those guys but it would take up pages.
Furthermore I didn't call into question Bruv's skill in this game, that's unfair. My posts are an indictment of the ranking system, as a measure of skill, not Bruv.
I said ranking system is no measure of skill because it can be gamed. Even if everyone played all the time in fighter mode it still wouldn't be a perfect measure because people enjoy flying different planes, with varying capabilities. Also, people fly with different goals in mind, some of which are not conducive to a high rank.
As far as the small sample.. look at August. Bruv had 202 kills in fighter mode, he had more kills than that in perk planes. I will bet almost every kill he had in fighter mode was in a perk ride. What's my point? Bruv plays for rank, that's my point. That's it. Frankly, this is common knowledge.
Some people "look down" upon score toads and I think that is hypocritical. You know the guys, the guys that "live for the fight" and then curse at you for not giving up whatever advantage you developed to fight them evenly. I find those people to be real hypocrites. Part of the MA environment and combat is the events that occur before the merge. Positioning, load out, angle, timing, plane choice. All this is part of the combat sequence that the "Live for the fight" guys fail to see as part of the equation. You wont find score toads like Bruv trying to tell them how to fly yet they will type all over 200 all day, calling people runners or cowards... whatever the case may be. Score toading is no worse, or better, than those dedicated 1v1 guys. At least score toads don't fill up the text buffer with self righteous indignation.
The "live for the fight" guys have some misguided sense of being better, more noble, than the toads. I will never understand this.
Finally, as I said, I do not think the ranking system is an accurate measure of skill but I am not campaigning for it's discontuance. I think the score/rank system has its' uses and, more importantly, I can only come up with one idea to make the ranking a little more accurate. I don't think there is a way to significantly alter the system to make it reflect skill level. <S>
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Let's continue because you've misinterpreted a couple of things . . .
Fair enough!
. . . so I will leave it be. :aok
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If there's anything that would make fighter rank more relevant, it would be to make the ENY of the aircraft you fly more relevant. But before that, they have to redo the ENY values of all the fighters. ;)
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Proof that rank means little... I found myself ranked 23 overall this morning! That's just silly. :rofl I think they left a couple zeroes off the end of my rank.
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Hey steve,
Yes your correct those 8 kills were in a pony. My only run in a fighter so far this new tour. Lynx asked for help at a port that was being attacked by 10+ Knights he was the only Rook defending to begin with. I rolled a Seafire off a nearby CV with his F6F close behind when enemy lancs did a carpet bomb drop on the CV. After a quick skirmish with a pony and p47 (redtop's) plus multiple attack planes diving in and out with lots of energy. I ended up getting whacked by a B25H no less who went for a head on pass (don't blame him) and being on the deck with no E didnt have anywhere to go he may have even hit me with the big gun.
I found the nearest land based field and a squaddie came online and we rolled together. By this time the port was in serious danger of getting overrun 15+ cons working it. Quite a few lancs cruising around. The only reason I didnt get more than 8 kills in that run was due to the large number of enemy cons, you wouldnt be able to engage one without another shooting you in the back. The end of the run resulted in tangling with a well flown spit 8 and 16 at 15k. After a couple of turns to see whether they knew their stuff I was forced to disengage before they got guns on me, low on ammo and fuel by this time I went and landed on the CV. So in answer to your question no they weren't vulches. I can't remember the last good vulch I participated in (I class a vulch as ack guns down, vh dead, shooting guys on the runway) Not going to pretend I wouldnt vulch some guys taking off if I had the chance (90% of the community would) it just doesnt happen much anymore. I'm sure they are far more common during US prime time when targets are a plenty. I can only dream how many kills I could put up if I managed to fly when you do.
As for the hurricane runs in attack mode a field was being capped from a cv attack and I'm sure you wouldnt have even upped your P51 at all from that field. Bases saved due to heroic action doesnt have a score category either ;) if I could put it in that mode I would.
The only two times i've played with overall score in mind have been the two times i've finished number one overall. I have really good SA and a good shot, most runners get let down on their kills per hour but mine are always high due to the fact that if I have an advantage I will press it home to the best of my ability. Yes I love flying my Tempest (usually only comes out when Bish are hording) but I don't really fly any specific planes all the time and I do well in most rides.
The rest of the time I would say i'm very much similiar to Lynx (without the Admirals cap) in that I enjoy all aspects of Aces High and wouldn't place myself with the furballing or land grab mentalities, I do a bit of both. I also have my squad to think about and their enjoyment to consider. If I were to be milking and running from every fight I could to "play for rank" I don't think I would have any squadmates. We did 7000 odd kills for around 2800 deaths which is our best month to date.
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I'm from England, I play at GMT hours that suit around my shifts.
Lucky for you really if your not Rook ;)
what hes saying here is...........
he on during prime milking hours
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no what it means is I play when the OP obviously isnt online and our respective locations is the reason for that.
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no what it means is I play when the OP obviously isnt online and our respective locations is the reason for that.
Like i said prime milking hours :rolleyes:
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and so?
With Steve's long winded investigation and SR being the score police :D its like your trying to discredit me in someway "he vulches, he milks off hours" etc etc. Funny that you aswell want to chime in. Is this something I should take more seriously? I have much respect for some of the muppets Kappa, fester, Dano who always go about their business with the right attitude.
As somebody else pointed out why such interest from the guys who don't play for score and just mindlessly furball and DA?
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and so?
With Steve's long winded investigation and SR being the score police :D its like your trying to discredit me in someway "he vulches, he milks off hours" etc etc. Funny that you aswell want to chime in. Is this something I should take more seriously? I have much respect for some of the muppets Kappa, fester, Dano who always go about their business with the right attitude.
As somebody else pointed out why such interest from the guys who don't play for score and just mindlessly furball and DA?
We may DA and "mindlessly" furball...but youll never see us fly timid or run from a fight to save our "score" like ive seen you do :aok
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you have?
Maybe that could be mistaken for "extending" or returning to base low on ammo and fuel. There comes a point when self survival and stupidity cross. Say i've just killed 10 guys in and around an enemy base and they so pissed they up la's , nikis, spit16's to come git me. Thats when I'm likely to be seen "running to protect my score" or at least dragging them far enough away from their friends to re-engage.
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you have?
Maybe that could be mistaken for "extending" or returning to base low on ammo and fuel. There comes a point when self survival and stupidity cross. Say i've just killed 10 guys in and around an enemy base and they so pissed they up la's , nikis, spit16's to come git me. Thats when I'm likely to be seen "running to protect my score" or at least dragging them far enough away from their friends to re-engage.
he's got ya here/......one of your own previous posts i think steesr towards timid flying. :D :aok
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he's got ya here/......one of your own previous posts i think steesr towards timid flying. :D :aok
:huh
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See rule 4
Eep. What did I say? :eek:
[edit] I should add that I didn't plan to offend anyone. Perhaps my sense of humor is a little dry.... Or maybe I was drunk. Possibly both. :lol
My apologies.
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:huh
HE was talking about not flying timid. but one of his posts mentioned not engaging a con due to the fact that there was a possibility of said cons wingie getting his six. i think he had alt too. i'd have to go back to read it again..will at lunch.
if he decided to not engage a 2-1, that's timid. i don't say this in disrespect, as i know he's one of the better pilots here, but timid is timid. running is running, not extending.
just sayin......
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and so?
With Steve's long winded investigation and SR being the score police :D its like your trying to discredit me in someway "he vulches, he milks off hours" etc etc. Funny that you aswell want to chime in. Is this something I should take more seriously? I have much respect for some of the muppets Kappa, fester, Dano who always go about their business with the right attitude.
As somebody else pointed out why such interest from the guys who don't play for score and just mindlessly furball and DA?
Aww come on, I said one flight might have been a vulch and I made it clear that I wasn't denegrating your flying style. You've already admitted you fly for rank at least some times.. let it go. I was plain when I said one flying style isn't somehow more noble than another.(IMHO)
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HE was talking about not flying timid. but one of his posts mentioned not engaging a con due to the fact that there was a possibility of said cons wingie getting his six. i think he had alt too. i'd have to go back to read it again..will at lunch.
if he decided to not engage a 2-1, that's timid. i don't say this in disrespect, as i know he's one of the better pilots here, but timid is timid. running is running, not extending.
just sayin......
No, what's "steesr?" I can normally make out spelling mistakes, but wtf is that? :confused:
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No, what's "steesr?" I can normally make out spelling mistakes, but wtf is that? :confused:
steers?
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A post steers toward timid flying. Ok, I guess I can buy that. :lol
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I love the 190. We all know that, how do I put the 190 to make the best out of it. BnZ, so that's what I'm going to do. I'm not going to let some spit, f4u, tempest flyers tell me how to fly my 190 =)
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We're not going to tell you how to fly it, thats up to you.
We are going to mercilessly ridicule you if you fly timid and only engage with the advantage(s).
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^_^ to get a 11-12 kph ratio, you can't be that timid. 190 are like an oppertunist. We strike hard and fast. I rarely fly above 8k, usually sitting around 5-7k once I arrived to the furball area and ID all the higher baddies to keep an eye on them. SA is key for 190 though. To be a good BnZmer you gotta take advantage of your speed, and SA. Though most important of all, you gotta be able to hit and kill your target almost every time.
BnZ works in just about any plane, it just TnB planes are capable of doing better, except they just got a fewer rounds, and a bit slower and doesn't handle well at high speed (that's needed for the oppertunity kills when target just hanging ontop of a rope 2k under ya etc). The advantage the TnB plane got is that they can go TnB almost at will and do fine vs just about any other planes. Where a 190 or tiff would have a hard time fighting it off if he gets caught by another tnb plane.Unless you're a 38, them things are sick for bnzming and tnbing. Fast climb rate, good gun package, handles pretty good at 400 knts.
I bet you that most of the good bnzmer have a higher kph ratio then most of the tnber. It really doesn't matter what plane they fly, spit or 190 or p-51. Well it does kinda, BnZ in a TnB plane such as a spit or a 38 would usually have a higher kill per hour. Only because if you do miss a pass, you can chop throttle coming back down right away rather then extend to regain your E and come back down.
Example:
I'll take last tour (103) score post em.
BnZmer:
Yenny (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 11.12
Kills Hit Percentage 15.67
Yenny (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 8.60
Kills Hit Percentage 18.66
Bruv119 (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 15.55 (wtf? stop hovering over capped base =D )
Kills Hit Percentage 18.43
Bruv119 (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 12.49
Kills Hit Percentage 36.13
Steve (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 10.19
Kills Hit Percentage 12.84
Steve (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 12.92
Kills Hit Percentage 14.29
Delirium (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 17.35 (You too Del!)
Kills Hit Percentage 16.08
Delirium (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 14.69
Kills Hit Percentage 16.50
Now for the TnB people:
SEBongo (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 4.61
Kills Hit Percentage 9.24
SEBongo (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 2.70
Kills Hit Percentage 84.73
SkyRock (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 7.60
Kills Hit Percentage 6.70
SkyRock (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 10.22
Kills Hit Percentage 9.12
420Ace (Fighter Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 4.61
Kills Hit Percentage 5.09
420Ace (Attack Mode): Kills per Hour of Flight 5.87
Kills Hit Percentage 11.97
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The past two or three tours are not a good example for me. I don't really care to look but I will tell you that I was playing less and my aim was suffering a lot. I had an antivirus program hogging the system resources. At first it wasn't so bad but eventually my fps was dropping between 1-10 in almost all engagements.
FSO last night was fun. I reformatted my hard drive and had a clean machine running 70-75 fps. Was a refreshing change.
You say you rarely fly above 8, but when I see you in a 190 its never co-alt or lower and I fly at about 10k to the deck.
I also don't know why your trying to give me a lesson in Ganging in BnZ from alt. Anyone can do that. I have perched in the p38 if the enemy is numerous and low. Do you want a lesson in TnB typed out for you?
I have wasted too much of my life arguing stupid points over a silly internet video game.
You see it different, we'll keep making fun of each other, and end of story?
-edit- actually took the time to look at the stats. wonder why my attack shooting was better. i usually don't pay attention to what mode is set but I think the p38j and l were set to that. maybe the ki84 too, i dunno.
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I also don't know why your trying to give me a lesson in Ganging in BnZ from alt. Anyone can do that.
This statement is curious because the normal order of learning for new pilots is to turn-n-burn first, then branch out into other forms of combat. What's more, the vast majority of 51s and 190s that I see trying to BNZ are terrible at it. They approach from your high 12 o'clock and dive straight in for a low % shot, rather than allowing the bandit to go underneath while executing a lag-pursuit split-s type maneuver.
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Do you want a lesson in TnB typed out for you?
You'd be suprise but most of us BnZmer are pretty good in TnB. We might not be as good as Texture or SkyRock etc, but we will put an above average TnBner down in flame. The reason we don't TnB a lot is because of the aircraft we fly r not good for it, so we just try to avoid it when we can. ^_^ we spent our time in DA and TA work on TnB when we're not in MA!
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to get a 11-12 kph ratio, you can't be that timid.
:rofl not true some of the most timid, have high k/t :aok
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'tis true indeed
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I think the differant times answer only accounts for part of the answer.. The other part is number one ranked player are not going to be at the same location as you when they are online at the same time... You just not statistically going to see them in the furball... So in short differant playing style has a lot to do with it. Id be willing to bet you store memories based on if you kill or are killed by said player not on seeing victories landed.....
<S>
P.S> how was vacation?
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:rofl not true some of the most timid, have high k/t :aok
how does this happen? When I've looked at the K/T of the orbiters... they are usually around... 2. 5. per hour.
Furballers usually have good K/t because they fight, get a few kills, and usually stick around til they die... having a blast the whole time, no doubt. One reason their K/T is helped is that they don't hurt it with rtb time. :aok
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Question: What is the formula for how K/D, K/S, K/T, Hit% and kill points give a pilot a fighter rank? I've looked on the website, but the only formulaic explanation I see is for perk points. It seems that K/T is one of the most heavily weighted stats, which actually means the people who play it safe and land their sorties are hardly "score toads."
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how does this happen? When I've looked at the K/T of the orbiters... they are usually around... 2. 5. per hour.
Furballers usually have good K/t because they fight, get a few kills, and usually stick around til they die... having a blast the whole time, no doubt. One reason their K/T is helped is that they don't hurt it with rtb time. :aok
they have it down to a science with checking teh dar of an area then upping just above furball alt and cherrying all things below. If you work it just right, you can get 15 and hour and not one of them be a fight, all cherries with easy hit% to boot. mix that in with keeping eye out for vulchs as they unffold, and you then become bruv. :aok
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You'd be suprise but most of us BnZmer are pretty good in TnB. We might not be as good as Texture or SkyRock etc, but we will put an above average TnBner down in flame.
:rofl You would first have to be "good", correct? I can name at least 100 folks who are better than you.
Score means nothing.
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Question: What is the formula for how K/D, K/S, K/T, Hit% and kill points give a pilot a fighter rank? I've looked on the website, but the only formulaic explanation I see is for perk points. It seems that K/T is one of the most heavily weighted stats, which actually means the people who play it safe and land their sorties are hardly "score toads."
Each individual stat is ranked from low to high. Ties are ties but, if two people are tied at say #4, then the next ranked person is #6. Overall fighter (or any category for that matter) is the sum total of individual stat ranks with the lowest number being the highest ranked. Each individual stat weighs equally.
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they have it down to a science with checking teh dar of an area then upping just above furball alt and cherrying all things below. If you work it just right, you can get 15 and hour and not one of them be a fight, all cherries with easy hit% to boot. mix that in with keeping eye out for vulchs as they unffold, and you then become bruv. :aok
There's nothing like pouncing on a vulch, man. I love that.
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There's nothing like pouncing on a vulch, man. I love that.
"Lamp is good." :D
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"Lamp is good." :D
I mean pouncing on the vulchers.... man I love that.
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Each individual stat is ranked from low to high. Ties are ties but, if two people are tied at say #4, then the next ranked person is #6. Overall fighter (or any category for that matter) is the sum total of individual stat ranks with the lowest number being the highest ranked. Each individual stat weighs equally.
Ok, thanks!
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I mean pouncing on the vulchers.... man I love that.
I'm with you. It's even better when they concern themselves with their "dreams of landing 9 kills and getting WTFG's", only to have them dashed by me sitting in an unsuspecting Manned Ack.
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^_^ I can name em too Kara
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Steve = Fighter Score Dweeb :noid
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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I see Lynx and Shawk all the time.. lots of times we fly together. i hear watch ur six Blue.. all the time from them.. and Shawk makes fun of me sometimes :( but hey.. i rather fly with them.. then against them..
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Steve = Fighter Score Dweeb :noid
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Don't pidgeon hole me. I'm a dweeb.
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^_^ I can name em too Kara
No, you can't. You see, you're relatively new here Yenny. You still THINK you "know a lot". Well you don't.
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No, you can't. You see, you're relatively new here Yenny. You still THINK you "know a lot". Well you don't.
Well, I'll vulch if it's a capped field with other friendlies, I dont care then because it's your fault for upping. But there always is that one little group of guys hovering at 10k above a field with 2 500 lbers and rockets for you when you try to up... :(
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Well, I'll vulch if it's a capped field with other friendlies, I dont care then because it's your fault for upping. But there always is that one little group of guys hovering at 10k above a field with 2 500 lbers and rockets for you when you try to up... :(
You need to go to Page 4 and see what he was responding to.
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^_^ and you can determind who's good who's not? think again buddy =). The last time you shot me down, I was in a Ta-152 at 500 feet fighting off 2 spits and u came picking me in a ki-61. We have never fought in a 1 v 1 situation. Now you can't tell how the other person is good or not from that type of engagement :aok
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^_^ and you can determind who's good who's not? think again buddy =). The last time you shot me down, I was in a Ta-152 at 500 feet fighting off 2 spits and u came picking me in a ki-61. We have never fought in a 1 v 1 situation. Now you can't tell how the other person is good or not from that type of engagement :aok
Yea you can, you were in a 152 and he was in a Ki-61 :D
One of these has spine! :lol
Honestly, the 152 should be a plane that only m00t can fly.
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^_^ and you can determind who's good who's not? think again buddy =). The last time you shot me down, I was in a Ta-152 at 500 feet fighting off 2 spits and u came picking me in a ki-61. We have never fought in a 1 v 1 situation. Usually I get gang and you pick me off. Now you can't tell how the other person is good or not from that type of engagement :aok
You had a lone Spit in front of you (he made it back to base btw). Just because you brought the wrong tool from your toolbox and were shooting your mouth off on 200 prior, doesn't make you "the victim" here. If you were "as good as you think", you should have known that rolling a Ta-152 from a (close to being vultched situation) was not smart. You shoot your cocky mouth off a lot and you tried scissoring against a slower plane and lost in spades. You even tried "revenge" by giving chase after re-upping, but it was for naught.
I'll put it bluntly, I've been here since Tour 27. Wait, since you've been here since what...Tour 92ish (?), you've seen "more good sticks than I", right? You're beginning to look like Prometheus with every post. I'm sorry, but you've never fought Leviathn who would just simply suck the "timidness" right out of you and force you to log (and he would). Don't get me started on Drex, who I'd put just ever so slightly above Levi.
Those are the two "EXCELLENT" sticks (I'm NOT alone in this). The more than 350 others I could name before giving you a "glint", are fighting for #3.
The brick will knock some sense into you eventually. You are a timid cherry picker, this much is both fact and has been proven time and time again. I didn't pick you, you tried "outturning a Ki-61". You cannot as you obviously didn't know how too. I can (talk to OddCAF about my abilities turning in a Ta-152 OTD) and it is fun to do. You don't turn much, so you WOULDN'T know. Wait, that would mean the "crappy Karaya" is saying he's "just as good as the exaggerating Yenny"!!! :uhoh
I deal in facts Yenny, not bravado, machismo, exaggerations, nor opinions. Just facts. Keep in mind, you are embarrassing yourself in front of the Community with your "elitist" attitude. But hey, keep it up, you're making waves....................but you're in a deflating life raft in a Hurricane.
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Yea you can, you were in a 152 and he was in a Ki-61 :D
One of these has spine! :lol
Honestly, the 152 should be a plane that only m00t can fly.
:salute and thank you for the compliment 1+44.
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Obsequiousness makes me want to vomit. :rolleyes:
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No freakin way, 152 is like a P-47D11. It turns amazing compares to the A5, A8, D9, and P51. After spending a few hours in it I knew why m00t was flying it over the D9s. It turns damn good for a bnzmer/tnber. I took off a 152 off the capped field because I like the challange. I don't care for dying. No I've been here since tour 96 I think. I've spent a lot of time in AW1 and flying in RL ^^. Just gotta adjust fire in AH, by learning the plane capability and it's models over again that's all. Everything else is the same crap =).
The 2 spit took a good 5 minutes rolling w/ me OTD and none of them really had the shot. When shot me down, I was nosing up ontop of my scissor about to roll back down. I saw you coming in at 6 hi, but oh well I was doing about 100 knts. Not much I could done. Do I really care for getting shot down there? hell no, that's why I upped a 152 on a capped base in the first place.
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No freakin way, 152 is like a P-47D11. It turns amazing compares to the A5, A8, D9, and P51. After spending a few hours in it I knew why m00t was flying it over the D9s. It turns damn good for a bnzmer/tnber. I took off a 152 off the capped field because I like the challange. I don't care for dying. No I've been here since tour 96 I think. I've spent a lot of time in AW1 and flying in RL ^^. Just gotta adjust fire in AH, by learning the plane capability and it's models over again that's all. Everything else is the same crap =).
If you "aren't afraid of dying", you wouldn't have tried to use that scenario against me with your exaggerations. :aok
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:salute and thank you for the compliment 1+44.
:salute :salute Back to you.
And we never did have that P-39 vs. La7 duel yet did we? :salute
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:salute :salute Back to you.
And we never did have that P-39 vs. La7 duel yet did we? :salute
I need a new Joystick. Wife is claiming by Weds. I can order it (to be honest, this break is well needed). My x52 stick went tits-up. So I'll get a CH Fighterstick and use the throttle for a few months and weasel in a CH Throttle.
When I get it going, I'd be more than happy to have some good fun in the DA and maybe show you some tips, hints, etc.
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I need a new Joystick. Wife is claiming by Weds. I can order it (to be honest, this break is well needed). My x52 stick went tits-up. So I'll get a CH Fighterstick and use the throttle for a few months and weasel in a CH Throttle.
When I get it going, I'd be more than happy to have some good fun in the DA and maybe show you some tips, hints, etc.
Yea, would be nice, be careful though, most who've fought my P-39 remember it, only problem I have now is Accuracy, I cant hit a bullet with the side of a barn if I tried.