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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Fencer51 on September 04, 2008, 12:41:12 PM
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So, anyone have any problems with AH2 and a GeForce 8800 GTS or 9800 GTX ?
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Either card will run circles around the game. For about $115 after rebate you can pick up an 8800GT 512mb on newegg or for about $150 after rebate you can get a ATI 4850 512mb
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Been running a 880GTS 320MB with a Asus board for over a year now ( Intel duo core 2.6 w 4 Gigs ram with Vista Ultimate, 7200RPM SATA drive ). Rock solid stable & I run with 1024 hi res textures at 1920 x 1200 on a 24 inch LCD. All graphic options in AH turned up to maximum, and I preload all textures. Card also running AH with 4x AA and vsynch on. I get a solid 59FPS and the only time I get any stutter at all is a very slight pause as I enter the vicinity of a furball over tanktown. Once Im there all is fine.
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I've got an 8800 GTS 512. It keeps my FR pegged at my refresh rate (60) in all situations with all graphic settings maxed in the game and set very high in the card set-up (16x AA, 4x AF, etc... more than needed).
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I have an eVGA 8800GTS KO and I love it. BaldEagl talked me into staying with eVGA, I'm glad he did.
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I have the 8800 GTS. Its adaquate for AH. Runs it all on high settings 60fps. Its couple of years old though, may be getting time to move up.
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Just a heads up for you eVGA folks...they offer a 90 day "step-up" program that allows full credit for your current eVGA card. I found out about it 1/2 a day too late :cry
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Also, BFG, EVGA, and XFX (I think XFX) have lifetime warranties on their cards. If something as little as the fan making noise/dying = new video card. But EVGA and more recently BFG require you to register on their website to get the lifetime warranty.
IMO, the lifetime warranty is well worth it. I'd rather play $30+ more for the same card if the more expensive manufacturer offered the lifetime warranty.
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So, anyone have any problems with AH2 and a GeForce 8800 GTS or 9800 GTX ?
Fencer, you may well be aware of this already. Long long ago, I bought a new vid card and found no improvement on my end. The problem was the combination of mobo, chip, and memory had things running as fast as they could already. A new card which could process better and faster was held back those three elements.
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By all means post your MB CPU RAM and other statistics or otherwise advice is not all it could be.
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So, anyone have any problems with AH2 and a GeForce 8800 GTS or 9800 GTX ?
I saw some news reports about nvidia recalling thousands of vid cards from their previous generation chips... Defective manufacturing process and it kills the cards. If you buy a previous gen card (8xxx or 9xxx) you *might* get one of those. They work for a while and then die, apparently.
If you want nvidia, I'd say go for a 260 series card. Great bang for the buck and it's *new*.
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I saw some news reports about nvidia recalling thousands of vid cards from their previous generation chips... Defective manufacturing process and it kills the cards. If you buy a previous gen card (8xxx or 9xxx) you *might* get one of those. They work for a while and then die, apparently.
If you want nvidia, I'd say go for a 260 series card. Great bang for the buck and it's *new*.
I know BFG Tech got nailed/caught using returned 8800's and re-selling them as 9800's. In most cases, they just put the new sticker over the old one.
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I saw some news reports about nvidia recalling thousands of vid cards from their previous generation chips... Defective manufacturing process and it kills the cards. If you buy a previous gen card (8xxx or 9xxx) you *might* get one of those. They work for a while and then die, apparently.
If you want nvidia, I'd say go for a 260 series card. Great bang for the buck and it's *new*.
Source?
I haven't heard about that and I cruise the EVGA forums occasionally. If this was true it would also be showing up in the newegg user reviews and people on this forum would be throwing out alerts.
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Source?
I haven't heard about that and I cruise the EVGA forums occasionally. If this was true it would also be showing up in the newegg user reviews and people on this forum would be throwing out alerts.
It's true it's been all over the enthusiast news sites.
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I believe the recall only involves notebook graphic systems and not the cards we all know and love.
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I too thought the writedown was for notebook graphics chips only.
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I believe the recall only involves notebook graphic systems and not the cards we all know and love.
That was last week's news. This week's version is that it applies to pretty much everything they've made using that manufacturing process, including desktop chips.
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Source please? The only thing I can find is vendors asking Nvidia to widen the recall of all desktop products and Nvidia insisting the problem is isolated to a minor group of laptop systems.
EDIT: This news seems to be the rantings of a lunatic labor union with a dispute against one vendor of Nvidia. I wonder where their jobs will go after they ruin the reputation of their employer?
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My issue is not a recall related issue. MANY folks have discovered their "new 9800's" are in fact, "re-manufactured 8800's."
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I have the 8500 gt pro and tthe quality is awesome for that but i was thinking bout upgrading too... then this thopught came to mind... why fix it if it aint broke...LOL
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might need a new keyboard though
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I run a 8600GTS & it smokes the game no problems! :O
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Well my PNY GEFORCE 6600 died yesterday finally. I thought I could just upgrade but guess what.. I have an AGP only motherboard.. AUSU K8N. So I am stuck with an AGP card, and now I find I need one with '1.5V' slots which seems to be a big limiter in the remaining cards for AGP. It appears that the HIS Radeon 3850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161225
The current financial situation precludes a new motherboard and cpu at this time. So I am sorta scrooged. I am also concerned about the power supply now as well.
Anyone know of any good 1.5v AGP graphics cards that would tie me over?
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AH still runs on my 6800GT pretty nicely. You might be able to find one on ebay or craigslist for not very much money, and it should be a bit faster than your old 6600. With some attention to the detail sliders, I'm able to run 2xQ or 4x antialiasing at 1280x1024, which makes the image quite a bit nicer.
I can't recommend anything newer since I don't have any current info on AGP standards... You might be able to find a 7800 for not much more than the 6800 and it might be compatible with your mobo. I tried a 7800 of some sort on my mobo though, and it was completely unstable. I don't know if that was due to the mobo, a bad card, or maybe even a bad PSU, because I returned the video card instead of having it replaced under warranty. The 6800GT is "good enough" and upgrading it isn't worth the hassle at this point.
Of course, my eventual plan is to do a complete system upgrade and buy a current-generation video card. I know AH doesn't need all that power especially at 1280x1024, but I'll be able to turn up antialiasing to extreme levels to help get rid of the jaggies and shimmering that I find especially irritating in flightsims.
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Well my PNY GEFORCE 6600 died yesterday finally. I thought I could just upgrade but guess what.. I have an AGP only motherboard.. AUSU K8N. So I am stuck with an AGP card, and now I find I need one with '1.5V' slots which seems to be a big limiter in the remaining cards for AGP. It appears that the HIS Radeon 3850 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161225
The current financial situation precludes a new motherboard and cpu at this time. So I am sorta scrooged. I am also concerned about the power supply now as well.
Anyone know of any good 1.5v AGP graphics cards that would tie me over?
Pending on your Power Supply, that linked newegg Radeon is notched for 1.5V and should work.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/AGP_%26_AGP_Pro_Keying.svg/424px-AGP_%26_AGP_Pro_Keying.svg.png)
(http://c1.neweggimages.com/NeweggImage/productimage/14-161-225-04.jpg)
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Also Fencer, what is your CPU? That 3850 may be overkill for it and create a CPU bottleneck. I.e. a less expensive card will do they same performance because your CPU may be too slow.
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Also Fencer, what is your CPU? That 3850 may be overkill for it and create a CPU bottleneck. I.e. a less expensive card will do they same performance because your CPU may be too slow.
In those cases, you can still get better image quality by turning up antialiasing. Once you have enough framerate at a given resolution, a faster vid card should let you crank up the antialiasing essentially for free until the vid card becomes the bottleneck once again.
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Also Fencer, what is your CPU? That 3850 may be overkill for it and create a CPU bottleneck. I.e. a less expensive card will do they same performance because your CPU may be too slow.
AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3700+ 2.41 GHz, 2GB Ram
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AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3700+ 2.41 GHz, 2GB Ram
Then the 3850 will do justice to that.
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Yeah but I only got a 380 watt power supply.. I wonder if I can get by with that. :uhoh
As a 'what if' anyone got an opinion on the following CPU?
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ Brisbane 2.8GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core black edition Processor
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Yeah but I only got a 380 watt power supply.. I wonder if I can get by with that. :uhoh
As a 'what if' anyone got an opinion on the following CPU?
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5400+ Brisbane 2.8GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core black edition Processor
I don't think the 380w PSU would work with the 3850. I suspect anything faster than a 6800 series card would need more power.
Nothing wrong with that cpu other than it's an AM2 socket processor and most (all?) Athlon 64 boards with AGP slots used socket 939 not AM2, and I thought most (all?) A64 3700s were socket 939 or 754.
If you're planning on buying a new mobo to go with a new cpu, then switch to intel this cycle.
If I'm not answering the question, then it's because you didn't really give any reason *why* you want an opinion on that cpu. It sounds like you're thinking about putting it into your current system, which seems like throwing good money after bad. And like I said, it would be a bit strange to be able to replace an A64 3700 on an AGP mobo with an AM2 cpu, since I thought AGP died before AM2 hit the market.
A google search for K8N tells me that that mobo is actually socket 754? Regardless, it uses an NForce3 chipset which pre-dated AM2 cpus.
If you want a better answer, you need to say why you want an opinion on that cpu :)
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Cause I be trying to justify to the management (wife) the purchase of new components to upgrade this bucket of bolts to 64 2X with new Mobo, GFX card and power supply. :rofl And there is a deal on Newegg now for that CPU and a Antec Sonta III Case w/power supply.
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Don't replace obsolete with newer obsolete...
Let me know if this link to my newegg wishlist works.
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=6824154
Or you could go to newegg and search public wishlists for wishlist number 6824154, or the keyword "sysrefresh"
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Fencer its a good time to move over to Intel... really.