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Title: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 04, 2008, 03:26:20 PM
It happens every month.  Someone announces that they're ready to quit the game because it's just not like it used to be, and no one will fight 1vs1 in the main arena. 

In my experience, I find 1vs1 fights

1. When the darbar is very small for both friend and enemy.
2. I'm in an aircraft with high wingloading.

It's really the second point that's worthy of a tiny discussion.  Very few people will hang around for a 1vs1 when you're in one of the best dueling aircraft in the game, e.g. the Spit16.  On the other hand, almost everyone is willing to duke it out to the death with you if you're in a P-47 or 190A-8.  If you want 1vs1 fights, fly aircraft with performance envelopes similar to these two; you'll rarely see your opponent run away from the fight.  Even an F6F is far more likely to have its opponents hang around than a N1K.  Therefore, don't fly the first tier aircraft (ENY<10) if you're looking for a 1vs1 fight.

Neurologically, this game triggered dopamine for your brain when you first started to play it.  As the years go by, you become desensitized to that pleasure because you've overdone it.  Having fun is up to you; blaming others for your lack of enjoyment is probably a sign that it's time to take a long break. :salute
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Denholm on September 04, 2008, 03:28:11 PM
Either follow this tip or sign the petition:

Bring back H2H, for paying customers.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Bosco123 on September 04, 2008, 03:44:34 PM
I had this happen to me last night that realy got me POed. I got a 1v1 with a Typh, and started to fight him. I see this Hurri and break off to get away from the Hurri. I finally get away from the Hurri 6K away, and saw that the Typh was still on me. I begin to fight him again, and the Hurri comes back to kill me. Those of you who were on last night, I wasn't very pleased with the player that did that, and said some things on 200 to him; But what I think about that, thats the extent of a score *hore.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Yenny on September 04, 2008, 04:00:23 PM
lol no one wants to 1 v. 1 w/ my spit16 when i fly it  :( Always get gang bang!!!
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Kuhn on September 04, 2008, 04:03:27 PM
It happens every month.  Someone announces that they're ready to quit the game because it's just not like it used to be, and no one will fight 1vs1 in the main arena. 

In my experience, I find 1vs1 fights

1. When the darbar is very small for both friend and enemy.
2. I'm in an aircraft with high wingloading.

It's really the second point that's worthy of a tiny discussion.  Very few people will hang around for a 1vs1 when you're in one of the best dueling aircraft in the game, e.g. the Spit16.  On the other hand, almost everyone is willing to duke it out to the death with you if you're in a P-47 or 190A-8.  If you want 1vs1 fights, fly aircraft with performance envelopes similar to these two; you'll rarely see your opponent run away from the fight.  Even an F6F is far more likely to have its opponents hang around than a N1K.  Therefore, don't fly the first tier aircraft (ENY<10) if you're looking for a 1vs1 fight.

Aint that the truth!!    :D
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Steve on September 04, 2008, 04:05:39 PM
I had this happen to me last night that realy got me POed. I got a 1v1 with a Typh, and started to fight him. I see this Hurri and break off to get away from the Hurri. I finally get away from the Hurri 6K away, and saw that the Typh was still on me. I begin to fight him again, and the Hurri comes back to kill me. Those of you who were on last night, I wasn't very pleased with the player that did that, and said some things on 200 to him; But what I think about that, thats the extent of a score *hore.

What if the hurri asked the tiffie if he could help?  I'm not disagreeing with you though, I hate the third conn in on a 1v1 but it's the nature of the MA. Ironically I had this happen to me last night as well.  I left an enemy airbase with a nik in tow.  Left him behind and out of icon range but an la7 dove on me.  I reversed the la7 and he immediately ran back to the nik. I could have fought them both but I hate giving kills to third party dweeb riders. The la7 had already tried to HO me twice so I wasn't in much of a sporting mood with them anyway. I left again and the la7 tried to run me down, again with the nik in tow.  The la7 got within  1k before I made it to ack. I'm just not going to give some third party niktard a chance at a pick if I can help it.  :)
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: infowars on September 04, 2008, 04:12:35 PM
I can't imagine even for a second :huh thinking other cons are going to leave my one on one fight alone. :rofl

That's usually when I get picked is when I spend too much time on one guy.  Too bad we didn't have fire and forget missiles...

When I want to one on one I find one.  When I fly into a furball I expect to be a easy target as I track someone else,  I'm constantly checking my own six...

I think those people who complain are also the ones that say "check 6 would've been nice" when they get shot down...  in a furball.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: bmwgs on September 04, 2008, 04:44:14 PM
I guess I just don't get it. 

Best I can figure anything goes in the MA, but a few constantly complain about it.  If you just want an one on one fight, then take it to the DA.  Seems to me that what the DA is supposed to be used for.

Before you start jumping me for my opinion, I just want to state I have been picked by the biggest names in this game while in an one on one fight.  It seems the ones that do most of the complaining, are the ones I constantly see picking others.


The above comments are not directed at anyone specifically, just stating my opinion, and I know we all have one.

Fred
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: bobtom on September 04, 2008, 04:49:35 PM
lol no one wants to 1 v. 1 w/ my spit16 when i fly it  :( Always get gang bang!!!

Well that's what you get for flying a spixteen...
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: BaldEagl on September 04, 2008, 04:50:19 PM
lol no one wants to 1 v. 1 w/ my spit16 when i fly it  :( Always get gang bang!!!

I used to fly nothing but Spits.  Then I got away from that for quite awhile, still flying Spits but many other planes as well. 

The past few camps I've been back mostly in my old Spit XVI and I can attest I get nothing but ganged.

This camp I've only flown one fighter sortie so far but it was in a 109E-4.  I got into a long, fun, extended one on one with a N1K while both friendlies and enemys flew nearby leaving us alone.  The friendlies asked if I wanted their help.  I can only guess the other side did the same.  And this was on Titanic Tuesday!
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: CAP1 on September 04, 2008, 04:50:45 PM
It happens every month.  Someone announces that they're ready to quit the game because it's just not like it used to be, and no one will fight 1vs1 in the main arena. 

In my experience, I find 1vs1 fights

1. When the darbar is very small for both friend and enemy.
2. I'm in an aircraft with high wingloading.

It's really the second point that's worthy of a tiny discussion.  Very few people will hang around for a 1vs1 when you're in one of the best dueling aircraft in the game, e.g. the Spit16.  On the other hand, almost everyone is willing to duke it out to the death with you if you're in a P-47 or 190A-8.  If you want 1vs1 fights, fly aircraft with performance envelopes similar to these two; you'll rarely see your opponent run away from the fight.  Even an F6F is far more likely to have its opponents hang around than a N1K.  Therefore, don't fly the first tier aircraft (ENY<10) if you're looking for a 1vs1 fight.

Neurologically, this game triggered dopamine for your brain when you first started to play it.  As the years go by, you become desensitized to that pleasure because you've overdone it.  Having fun is up to you; blaming others for your lack of enjoyment is probably a sign that it's time to take a long break. :salute


planes i've seen run from my hellkitty::

spit5, and 9, zeke(both varients) hurri2c, 190(can't remember the varient), p51b, and a couple others i can't remember right now.

 i've noticed that other cats, fm2's, spixteens, the occasional yak, and lala's generally fight. the spixteens, and lala's tend to ho, while the rest are great fights, riding the stall horn. i usually lose too  :rofl but since it was a fun fight, i don't really care either.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: CAP1 on September 04, 2008, 04:52:10 PM
lol no one wants to 1 v. 1 w/ my spit16 when i fly it  :( Always get gang bang!!!

that's why i don't fly the spixteen anymore
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: CAP1 on September 04, 2008, 04:58:39 PM
I can't imagine even for a second :huh thinking other cons are going to leave my one on one fight alone. :rofl

That's usually when I get picked is when I spend too much time on one guy.  Too bad we didn't have fire and forget missiles...

When I want to one on one I find one.  When I fly into a furball I expect to be a easy target as I track someone else,  I'm constantly checking my own six...

I think those people who complain are also the ones that say "check 6 would've been nice" when they get shot down...  in a furball.

if i want a 1-1, i just fly around near a furball....sooner or later someone will notice me, and come kill me :rofl
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: The Fugitive on September 04, 2008, 05:20:45 PM
1 on 1s are easy to find, they just don't stay 1 on 1s   :D  Bosco was saying how he broke off from his 1vs1 because a Hurri shows up. Don't be a wimp, fight them both!! Ones going to BnZ you the other is going to TnB you. Finish off the hurri then go back on the typh....if he don't run from ya.

More often than not I'll ask if a 1 vs 1 guy needs help. If he says yes, I'm in ! If I'm winging with a squadmate, there is NEVER a 1vs 1, we are are 2 on however many there is.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Platano on September 04, 2008, 05:27:54 PM
People always run from a K4  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: TonyJoey on September 04, 2008, 05:31:39 PM


People always run from a K4  :rolleyes:

I actually think its the crazed banana flying it that they run from.:aok
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: CAP1 on September 04, 2008, 05:34:38 PM


More often than not I'll ask if a 1 vs 1 guy needs help. If he says yes, I'm in ! If I'm winging with a squadmate, there is NEVER a 1vs 1, we are are 2 on however many there is.


i always do this. he say yes, i jump in. he doesn't answer, it depends....if it's someone i know, or like, or have flown with, then i'll go to help. someone i don't like.......he's on his own.


i should note, that sometimes i don't even really fire when i jump in. it seems that if i just distract the con a bit, my countryman gets his kill.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Bosco123 on September 04, 2008, 06:20:39 PM
What if the hurri asked the tiffie if he could help?  I'm not disagreeing with you though, I hate the third conn in on a 1v1 but it's the nature of the MA. Ironically I had this happen to me last night as well.  I left an enemy airbase with a nik in tow.  Left him behind and out of icon range but an la7 dove on me.  I reversed the la7 and he immediately ran back to the nik. I could have fought them both but I hate giving kills to third party dweeb riders. The la7 had already tried to HO me twice so I wasn't in much of a sporting mood with them anyway. I left again and the la7 tried to run me down, again with the nik in tow.  The la7 got within  1k before I made it to ack. I'm just not going to give some third party niktard a chance at a pick if I can help it.  :)
You know TIP, thats all I need to say :P
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: shreck on September 04, 2008, 06:42:58 PM
People always run from a K4  :rolleyes:

Not me  :aok  I just seem to enjoy the taste of taters  :rock  " sour cream and chives please "
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Yenny on September 04, 2008, 07:30:16 PM
If I go TnB i usually take a K4 up. If my base is getting hammer by vulcher, I'd take a spit-16, LA7 or IL2 up. Spit-16 is like easy mode. You can do 1 vs 3 pretty okay w/ a spit16 if the enemies are average pilots. I get 8-10 kills in spit16 per flight pretty easy since it just so uber and way faster then if I was flying D-9. It just offer so much more options then D-9. Start it out BnZ it if you got a lot of E and the fight is low, then just take it down and tnb it. It's like a F4U-4 that can turn better, climb better, chase runners. Basically it's OMFG ubah.

I hate flying it though, It's such a fun plane to fly but it has its stigma. Though to be a good spit-16 pilot you just gotta be good like the rest of em. Since you usually get gang bang, and only have 240 cannon rounds.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: shreck on September 04, 2008, 09:16:04 PM
If I go TnB i usually take a K4 up. If my base is getting hammer by vulcher, I'd take a spit-16, LA7 or IL2 up. Spit-16 is like easy mode. You can do 1 vs 3 pretty okay w/ a spit16 if the enemies are average pilots. I get 8-10 kills in spit16 per flight pretty easy since it just so uber and way faster then if I was flying D-9. It just offer so much more options then D-9. Start it out BnZ it if you got a lot of E and the fight is low, then just take it down and tnb it. It's like a F4U-4 that can turn better, climb better, chase runners. Basically it's OMFG ubah.

I hate flying it though, It's such a fun plane to fly but it has its stigma. Though to be a good spit-16 pilot you just gotta be good like the rest of em. Since you usually get gang bang, and only have 240 cannon rounds.


-------------------------------------->  :huh <------------------------------------------
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Banshee7 on September 04, 2008, 09:24:12 PM
lol no one wants to 1 v. 1 w/ my spit16 when i fly it  :( Always get gang bang!!!

funny...i always thought it was the Spit16s that did the gang-banging  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Masherbrum on September 04, 2008, 09:29:28 PM
It's really the second point that's worthy of a tiny discussion.  Very few people will hang around for a 1vs1 when you're in one of the best dueling aircraft in the game, e.g. the Spit16. 

If you see a Ki-61, I'll not only stick around and go 1 on 1.   You'll end up calling in a 2nd one in for assistance.   You see, I've seen this too many times.   Get someone who feels cocky and expects "to pwn a POS Ki-61".   Before they know it, they're in the tower.  

Spixteen is chickenfeed.   My soon to be 7 year old son got a couple kills when he was 5, in the Spixteen.   I coached the heck out of him, but he'll be spared from the Private Vox tuners for a few more years yet.   Then, look out.   But, if HE can get kills, anyone can.  

Now a Spit 1?   That is the best dueling plane we have.   Why?   Noone's "running" and you have a knock down, drag out fight.   Most don't the have the will to set aside the "Playstation mentality" to give it an honest shot.

Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Masherbrum on September 04, 2008, 09:30:14 PM
If I go TnB i usually take a K4 up. If my base is getting hammer by vulcher, I'd take a spit-16, LA7 or IL2 up. Spit-16 is like easy mode. You can do 1 vs 3 pretty okay w/ a spit16 if the enemies are average pilots. I get 8-10 kills in spit16 per flight pretty easy since it just so uber and way faster then if I was flying D-9. It just offer so much more options then D-9. Start it out BnZ it if you got a lot of E and the fight is low, then just take it down and tnb it. It's like a F4U-4 that can turn better, climb better, chase runners. Basically it's OMFG ubah.

I hate flying it though, It's such a fun plane to fly but it has its stigma. Though to be a good spit-16 pilot you just gotta be good like the rest of em. Since you usually get gang bang, and only have 240 cannon rounds.

Or when you've got a Ki-61 on your six for 2 seconds.   ;)
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 04, 2008, 09:42:24 PM
lol no one wants to 1 v. 1 w/ my spit16 when i fly it  :( Always get gang bang!!!

No, they just dont like you. Or spit 16s :)

Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Gixer on September 04, 2008, 09:58:17 PM
Though to be a good spit-16 pilot you just gotta be good like the rest of em. Since you usually get gang bang, and only have 240 cannon rounds.

What rubbish doesnt matter what you fly you still get ganged and surviving such a scenario in a spit16 takes less skill then any  other ride possible exception being C-Hogs.

Only 240 hispano rounds, oh the agony  :lol

Spit pilots have nothing to complain about fly one of the easiest rides dont expect many salutes and good 1v1s


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 04, 2008, 10:02:26 PM
Spit 16 stinks. Spit 9 and Spit 5 own it. Yenny, you'll survive gangs longer in a Spit 9, 8, or 5.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Yenny on September 04, 2008, 11:28:49 PM
No way =) k4 all the way !
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 04, 2008, 11:34:46 PM
No way =) k4 all the way !

Only because if you wanna escape, all you gotta do is level out and put on WEP.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Yenny on September 05, 2008, 03:28:24 AM
level out? you mean pitch nose up and climb out ^_^
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 05, 2008, 08:28:07 AM
What rubbish doesnt matter what you fly you still get ganged and surviving such a scenario in a spit16 takes less skill then any  other ride possible exception being C-Hogs.

I admit to ganging Spit16's or other 5 ENY aircraft when I would let the fight go if the bandit were in something else, but especially Spit16's. :t
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: BoilerDown on September 05, 2008, 09:00:45 AM
I admit to ganging Spit16's or other 5 ENY aircraft when I would let the fight go if the bandit were in something else, but especially Spit16's. :t

All tactics are fair game against 5 ENY and perk aircraft other than Jug-N, imo.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: SkyRock on September 05, 2008, 09:02:04 AM
and only have 240 cannon rounds.
thats 24 kills for you right?
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Yenny on September 05, 2008, 11:35:11 AM
thats 24 kills for you right?
Heh I wish, max I've done was 13 in a spit16 w/o rearm. I must saying them Hispanos are harder to aim then the MG151 cannons that the LW birds has. (MG151 is the one rite?). With the higher velocity I have problem leading the shot, since I'm used to the lower velocity of the MG151. I'm so used to the D-9's gun that I just know where to put the lead at 200 yards. I can't do it for them hispanos :(
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Xasthur on September 05, 2008, 11:39:14 AM
level out? you mean pitch nose up and climb out ^_^

Correct!

Used that tonight. Was getting teamed and lost my hub cannon to a collision (of all the things to lose  :lol). I put it into a WEP climb and got away.

I came back and had another crack with the 13mm when I got enough separation to fight the 2 at the same time.

I got home safely.  :)
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 05, 2008, 11:44:14 AM
All tactics are fair game against 5 ENY and perk aircraft other than Jug-N, imo.


Oh yeah, I forgot about the N-Jug because it shouldn't be a 5 ENY fighter (same goes for 152); I don't give them the "special treatment." ;)
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: MajIssue on September 05, 2008, 01:08:45 PM
It happens every month.  Someone announces that they're ready to quit the game because it's just not like it used to be, and no one will fight 1vs1 in the main arena. 

In my experience, I find 1vs1 fights

1. When the darbar is very small for both friend and enemy.
2. I'm in an aircraft with high wingloading.

It's really the second point that's worthy of a tiny discussion.  Very few people will hang around for a 1vs1 when you're in one of the best dueling aircraft in the game, e.g. the Spit16.  On the other hand, almost everyone is willing to duke it out to the death with you if you're in a P-47 or 190A-8.  If you want 1vs1 fights, fly aircraft with performance envelopes similar to these two; you'll rarely see your opponent run away from the fight.  Even an F6F is far more likely to have its opponents hang around than a N1K.  Therefore, don't fly the first tier aircraft (ENY<10) if you're looking for a 1vs1 fight.

Neurologically, this game triggered dopamine for your brain when you first started to play it.  As the years go by, you become desensitized to that pleasure because you've overdone it.  Having fun is up to you; blaming others for your lack of enjoyment is probably a sign that it's time to take a long break. :salute

Good Post!!!
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: mg1942 on September 05, 2008, 01:36:45 PM
If you see a Ki-61, I'll not only stick around and go 1 on 1.   You'll end up calling in a 2nd one in for assistance.   You see, I've seen this too many times.   Get someone who feels cocky and expects "to pwn a POS Ki-61".   Before they know it, they're in the tower.   

I don't know how you do it but that plane seems slow to accelerate in late war arenas.  It's like P-40.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: SectorNine50 on September 05, 2008, 02:21:26 PM
What?!  I think the Ki accelerates so fast, especially compared to my 51B.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: mg1942 on September 05, 2008, 02:39:20 PM
What?!  I think the Ki accelerates so fast, especially compared to my 51B.

Ki-84 does, but not Ki-61.


Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: SectorNine50 on September 05, 2008, 03:15:26 PM
Ki-84 does, but not Ki-61.
Hmm... I've found the 61 to accelerate quite decently personally...
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: bongaroo on September 05, 2008, 03:56:08 PM
It's really the second point that's worthy of a tiny discussion.  Very few people will hang around for a 1vs1 when you're in one of the best dueling aircraft in the game, e.g. the Spit16.  On the other hand, almost everyone is willing to duke it out to the death with you if you're in a P-47 or 190A-8.  If you want 1vs1 fights, fly aircraft with performance envelopes similar to these two; you'll rarely see your opponent run away from the fight.  Even an F6F is far more likely to have its opponents hang around than a N1K.  Therefore, don't fly the first tier aircraft (ENY<10) if you're looking for a 1vs1 fight.


If I'm in my Ki84 I will gladly engage your spixtween in a 1v1.  Now if all the spixtweens I see are riding around in packs holding hands.  Well, I'll look for buddies to keep from simply being overwhelmed by a gang because thats never much fun.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: mechanic on September 05, 2008, 04:06:19 PM
[snip]  Therefore, don't fly the first tier aircraft (ENY<10) if you're looking for a 1vs1 fight.

Neurologically, this game triggered dopamine for your brain when you first started to play it.  As the years go by, you become desensitized to that pleasure because you've overdone it.  Having fun is up to you; blaming others for your lack of enjoyment is probably a sign that it's time to take a long break. :salute

amen!


1 on 1s are easy to find, they just don't stay 1 on 1s   :D  Bosco was saying how he broke off from his 1vs1 because a Hurri shows up. Don't be a wimp, fight them both!! Ones going to BnZ you the other is going to TnB you. Finish off the hurri then go back on the typh....if he don't run from ya.

More often than not I'll ask if a 1 vs 1 guy needs help. If he says yes, I'm in ! If I'm winging with a squadmate, there is NEVER a 1vs 1, we are are 2 on however many there is.

and Amen!


edit:
Its amazing hypocracy. You have a fellow in a P51D or Tempest who says "Hey, that hurricane and my team mate are fighting, I will wait". What is really meant is "Hey when that hurricane has killed my teammate I will kill him." Why does anyone think that waiting for your teammate to die then starting with an E advantage over the enemy makes you more honourable? I would think that diving in to help your teammate would be the honourable thing to do, disregarding your own saftey, maybe even going one stage further and being bait for your teammate to get the kill.
 It is not the DA and you can never assume that an MA opponent is going to go easy on you or play with anything other than killer instinct and lack of mercy. Good duels will happen in the MA but if they are interupted then Fate herself is throwing your dice, not you. You cannot change your fate you can only roll with it and try to make it work out. It is this universal combat truth that makes a rare show of mercy or respect worth one hundred easy kills even in our silly cartoon war.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Masherbrum on September 05, 2008, 04:32:27 PM
Ki-84 does, but not Ki-61.




Ki-84's are childsplay.   
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: SEraider on September 05, 2008, 05:52:14 PM
I find that if you are looking for a 1 v1, then you might get dissapointed becuase while you are about to pwn the other craft, you'll get picked off in the fight. 

That happens to me but as dissappointed as I am, the "picker" is doing what he is suppose to do.

So I guess, the best 1 v 1 is in the DA.  But i feel for those who are frustrated by that. :salute

That is my open invitation to anyone...... :aok
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Vudak on September 05, 2008, 08:55:02 PM
If you want 1v1's in the MA, just hang around the edges of furballs.  You'll get your share :aok
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: mg1942 on September 06, 2008, 01:40:06 AM
Is duel arena for 1 v 1 too good for you guys? :huh
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: toonces3 on September 06, 2008, 02:34:14 AM
I'm not sure if this whole thread is some sort of not-so-subtle-response to my thread a few below or what. 

But, I'll pretend it's not and respond on its own merits.

I don't think anyone, including me, is wading into the MA soupbowl expecting to have fun 1v1's all night. 

But, I think any vet, someone with some decent amount of time in the MA's, has experienced that series of events that somehow leads to an intense fight with just one other opponent.

I'm not talking about wading into a furball and 'ending up' as a 1v1.  And I'm not talking about picking some dude at the fringes and having it work out that way. 

I'm talking about the times when you were, for whatever reason, in a sector and along comes a single other con.  And you get wrapped up in a fight.  Why were you in that sector alone?  Were you looking for a dogfight?  Were you Buff hunting?  Were you RTB?  Were you AFK for a beer or head call?  Does it matter?

You end up there, with your opponent.  You roll and dive and climb and weave.  You scissor.  You  blow your E, speed, alt...you have your flaps hanging out, you're a baby seal waiting to be clubbed...except your opponent is in the same position as you.

Then, out of the corner of your eye, deep in some turn with the stall horn blowing in your ear, you see a red flash.  Another enemy con...somewhere...out there on the periphery.  Where?  Well, to find that out you'd have to take your eyes off your opponent, or maneuver to see the other guy.  Either move, in this fight that you've invested several hard moments of your virtual life into, will give your opponent that small advantage that will end the fight badly for you.

You have a choice.  1.  Stick with the fight your in.  Best case:  the opponent calls his friendly off and you haven't wasted the last few minutes of you life.  2.  Maneuver to fight 2v1.

It's your choice.  The plane is free.  Your virtual life is free.  In fact, the only thing you lose in this scenario is time.  Well, time and the pleasure you have from finding out just how that fight would have turned out.  Sort of like watching half a movie and having someone tell you how it ends.  Or maybe TiVo'ing your favorite show/movie and then the TiVo quits 10 minutes before the end.  Like the part you saw was awesome, but without that ending, all that watching is somehow unfullfilling.

That's the scenario I'm talking about.  I've had it go both ways.  I've had it start in unusual ways.  But the thing is, when you have those fights that leave you physically shaking and tired afterwards, you really want another.  And you tend to remember them...or at least I do.  I haven't had alot, but I remember alot of the ones I've had.  More importantly  to me, I remember alot more that were interrupted by some chump that just couldn't stay out. 

I'm not talking about the time you're about to wax some dude's bellybutton and his squaddie clears you off.  I'm talking about the time where you're fully engaged and some knucklehead comes and just feels like he has to do his part because you're a red dot.

Then again, it's the MA.  You've either had this happen to you or not.  It either pisses you off when it happens or not.  I've sort of figured out that the only thing that costs anything in this game, beyond the $15 I pay per month, is the time I invest in it.  If time invested is not equal to a certain amount of fun, then the investment is poor.  Sort of like, if I invest 2 hours to watch a movie but miss the last 5 minutes, perhaps that was a poor investment of 2 hours of my time.

I'm sure 1v1s exist everyday in the DA.  That's not the point.  The point is that you wade into the soupbowl, circumstance tosses you a great deal of fun, and then somebody snatches it away for whatever glory a kill carries.  It used to be that you didn't have to look hard for those circumstances for fun.  It has gotten harder.  People say 'game play hasn't changed in 10 years!  not since the dawn of flight sims!'.  I gave you 3 concrete examples of how play has changed in Aces High 2 in the last year and a half.  Concrete, quantifiable examples:

1.  Large maps in the MA
2.  DA furball lake
3.  AvA war concept

<S>
Toonces
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Stoney on September 06, 2008, 03:24:36 AM
I'm sure 1v1s exist everyday in the DA.  <S>
Toonces

Don't be so sure.  The last 3 times I got Quaked to death in the MA, I fled the 1 v 6's and ran to the DA looking for some good 1 v 1 action.  Unfortunately, there was simply another mob of Quakers at DA Lake, and no one accepted the channel 200 challenges I posted repeatedly for 5 minutes straight.

But then again, you know my frustrations since you listen to me howl incessantly over Squad channel...  :)
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: storch on September 06, 2008, 08:27:51 AM
lol no one wants to 1 v. 1 w/ my spit16 when i fly it  :( Always get gang bang!!!
I have a K4 that says BS to that
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: moot on September 06, 2008, 08:35:20 AM
Either follow this tip or sign the petition:

Bring back H2H, for paying customers.
Client server = Open to vulnerabilities.  That's a dead end, as far as I've seen.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: Vudak on September 06, 2008, 09:48:37 AM
Don't be so sure.  The last 3 times I got Quaked to death in the MA, I fled the 1 v 6's and ran to the DA looking for some good 1 v 1 action.  Unfortunately, there was simply another mob of Quakers at DA Lake, and no one accepted the channel 200 challenges I posted repeatedly for 5 minutes straight.

But then again, you know my frustrations since you listen to me howl incessantly over Squad channel...  :)

Post it on "All" channel in the DA...  Many people in there don't have 200 tuned for one reason or another.  (I've had the same problem as you).
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: bongaroo on September 06, 2008, 10:02:58 AM
Ki-84's are childsplay.   

I resemble that comment!
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: shreck on September 06, 2008, 11:15:18 AM
Ki-84's are childsplay.   

Easy bigboy, at 350 mph my ki will turn such a great wiiiiiide circle, I just might be on your 12 before you know it  ;)
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: DamnedRen on September 06, 2008, 11:28:48 AM
The 1v1's are all over the place inthe MA. You don't have to look far. However, you need to learn to end the fight quickly or don't plan on it being a 1v1 for long.

As far as furby's go...I've found that no matter where I turn there is an enemy plane in front of me.
If you get picked by me it's only because you ended up front of my guns not because I was actually singling you out. I think that's called, "being in the wrong place at the right time" or "being in the right place at the wrong time" or maybe even "being in the right place at the right time", depending on which plane you happen to be in. :)

Ren
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: CAP1 on September 06, 2008, 11:33:01 AM
The 1v1's are all over the place inthe MA. You don't have to look far. However, you need to learn to end the fight quickly or don't plan on it being a 1v1 for long.



Ren

that's usually m problem in 1v1's. if i'm not getting the crap shot outta me by the badguy, then i'm on his six......but my gunnery really does suck, so they last for awhile.
Title: Re: So you want a 1vs1 in the main arena?
Post by: DamnedRen on September 06, 2008, 01:12:43 PM
Take yer shots at 200 yds or closer. Try and unload your stick pressure b4 the shot. You will club the bab....err...kill more that way.

Ren