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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: bj229r on September 04, 2008, 07:34:19 PM
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Can't say I (up until NOW) visit this forum much, but from what I've seen, there seems to me MUCH more AH grief with AMD than Intel....is that the case? (I'm buying a couple 1 gig mem chips for old mobo, but I'm not holding out much hope). Have always been a AMD fan, but I'm a BIGGER fan of not having $%$^%$ box freeze while I'm diving at 550 mph)
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Right now Intel is better. You get more bang for your buck with less trouble too.
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Right now, Intel. I was always an amd fan to and still am. Just a lot less trouble with Intel. The e8400 and e8500 chips are superb. I built an amd 6000 machine and had working pretty good but it would boot me about ever 3rd day. The e8500 machine I built after is just incredible.
AMD is coming out with the 45nm technology either this year or next.
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Never had any problem with my AMD on AH or any other game. Most people here do prefer Intel. In my not so humble opinion the performance difference between AMD and Intel dual cores does not justify the higher cost of a Intel chip. AMD 3.0-3.2 Mhz dual cores run about $110-125. Intel 175-275?
AMD only produces mid range quad cores. Intel has mid range to the top dogs. However, head to head at comparable speeds Intel quad's outperform the AMD and at a comparable price. A Intel 2.4 quad is about 190$ while the AMD 2.5 is about $175.
Currently a quad core is over kill for AH. But multi-core's are the future. So it depends on your other uses for it.
My AH system; 3.2 GHz AMD x2, Asus M2N SLI MB, 8800GTS VC, 2 GB Ram, 150 Raptor, 600 Watt PSU, Antec 900.
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Never had any problem with my AMD on AH or any other game. Most people here do prefer Intel. In my not so humble opinion the performance difference between AMD and Intel dual cores does not justify the higher cost of a Intel chip. AMD 3.0-3.2 Mhz dual cores run about $110-125. Intel 175-275?
AMD only produces mid range quad cores. Intel has mid range to the top dogs. However, head to head at comparable speeds Intel quad's outperform the AMD and at a comparable price. A Intel 2.4 quad is about 190$ while the AMD 2.5 is about $175.
Currently a quad core is over kill for AH. But multi-core's are the future. So it depends on your other uses for it.
My AH system; 3.2 GHz AMD x2, Asus M2N SLI MB, 8800GTS VC, 2 GB Ram, 150 Raptor, 600 Watt PSU, Antec 900.
Almost the same system I built Alaska. I think the culprit with my machine was a Intel program for raid. I'll have to check it out one day. Well actually I'm getting the nerve up to restore it and this time I won't put that program on. I used the same mb and the amd 6000 that runs at 3.0. It also has the 3870 ati VC.
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Asus raid is usually trouble free if you load the driver from the mb disk. You can also set up raid in windows.
I'm having trouble setting up raid on a XFX MB. Works good on disks 3-4 but disk 1(windows boot) and 2 it just won't work. I may just pull my 2ND raptor from this mb and add it to my asus (ah computer).
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Intel. Any CPU in the Wolfdale line. They run cooler and faster than anything comparable from AMD. If you like to overclock, they are a dream to work with.
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Intel. Any CPU in the Wolfdale line. They run cooler and faster than anything comparable from AMD. Amd if you like to overclock, they are a dream to work with.
Just to verify, should this be "AMD if you like to overclock..." or "And if you like to overclock..."
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Intel. Any CPU in the Wolfdale line. They run cooler and faster than anything comparable from AMD. Amd if you like to overclock, they are a dream to work with.
Is that a typo to And or did you mean AMD?
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Intel. Any CPU in the Wolfdale line. They run cooler and faster than anything comparable from AMD. Amd if you like to overclock, they are a dream to work with.
I thought AMD ran cooler than Intel. I have not kept up well, so I guess i missed something. My AMD x2 4400+ runs about 20-33C idle, according to the AMD site that's normal and can't exceed 60-70 without overheating.
As i mentioned though i have not kept up well, so I'm sure Intel has gotten much better. :aok
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I fat fingered it. Fixed.
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This comes to mind.
(http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/promo/3f05.gif)
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a few years ago it would have to be AMD, for now its Intel :aok
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I just bought an Intel 2 Quad Q6700= 4x2.7 GHz, 6144 SRAM, NVidia GF 9500GS, 750 gig SHD, 64 bit Vista...
Its almost like playing an entirely new game and entirely trouble free. AMD heat issues have always made me hesitate to buy them.
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Intel. Any CPU in the Wolfdale line. They run cooler and faster than anything comparable from AMD. If you like to overclock, they are a dream to work with.
And Getback will vouch that! 3.8 and counting
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Intel. Any CPU in the Wolfdale line. They run cooler and faster than anything comparable from AMD. If you like to overclock, they are a dream to work with.
I have so many fans on the AMD to keep it cool, it can be heard from across the house. When I run AH, cpu usually in mid 40 Centigrades, AFTER I pull cover off, mebbe I'll give Intel a try, been doing AMD for most the last decade
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My 3.2Mhz (slightly overclocked to 3.4Mhz) AMD x2 runs 33-40 degrees playing AH.
Of course I do get shot down alot. Probably runs cooler because of the amount of time I spend in a 'chute! Actually I give credit to my Antec 900. Probably one of the cooler running mid-sized cases out there.
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You can get a lot of cpu power for under $300... I think the sweet spot is around $250 for an intel cpu, 2 cores running somewhere around 3ghz. Of course, if I was going to buy today I'd be getting the new 3.0 ghz quad core Q9550, an ASUS P5Q Deluxe (or some sort of P5Q), and 2x2GB DDR2. Top it off with an Nvidia GTX 260 and there's your system refresh for the next 3 years.
I priced all that out at newegg today and it's just a tick over $900.
But yea, Intel is king this tech refresh cycle. I went with AMD last time because I couldn't stand the Pentium 4 but AMD has stagnated and after they abandoned socket 939, I have no incentive to put more money into a second-rate cpu. If there was a nice fast socket 939 cpu I could get a nice jump in speed without replacing everything else but as long as I'm going to have to replace the mobo anyhow, I might as well go with Intel since it's faster and the underlying technology is somewhat better. AMD has some good tech but the fact is that Intel is faster and consistently more upgradable. AMD abandoned their premium socket during a minor tech refresh cycle, while Intel has been using the same socket for years with HUGE speed increases. Buying AMD now is just dumb, unless you're REALLY on a tight budget and then in that case, I think AMD is a bit cheaper for a low-end system.
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I think a comparible AMDx2 system could be built considerably cheaper than a Intel x2 system. However; by 2010 dual's will be like single cores today. Old, outdated and good for basic computing/casual gaming only.
Quad; definatly Intel. AMD's triple core is just silly. AMD quad's may be real quads but they perform slower in nearly every test.
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INTEL!!! :rock