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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dowding on September 07, 2008, 01:05:39 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7602830.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7602830.stm)
I just don't understand how they can give this penalty. Hamilton let Kimi go by and then resumed racing. And Kimi didn't even finish the race, so no advantage was gained anyway.
I'm usually skeptical about consipracy theories, but the way the FIA seem to cosy up to Ferrari is pretty embarrassing for the 'sport'.
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Just another nail in the coffin for F1
the last few seasons have had a few "amazing" stewards decisions
Hungary 2006 Schumacher & Pedro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM)
preferential treatment has been in F1 for a long time and sadly it has become predictable.
McLaren are appealing (personally I don't see what the point is we all know the outcome will be)
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The first thing that came to my mind:
1972 Summer Olympics - Basketball Gold Medal Match controversy
he 1972 Olympic men's basketball gold medal game, marking the first ever loss for Team USA in Olympic play, is arguably the most controversial in Olympic history. The United States rode their seven consecutive gold medals and 63-0 Olympic record to Munich for the 1972 Summer Olympics. The team won its first eight games in convincing fashion, setting up a final against the Soviet Union.
With three seconds left in the gold medal game, American guard Doug Collins sank two free throws to put the Americans up 50-49. The horn that would normally signal the end of the game erroneously sounded before Collins's second free throw. Immediately following Collins's free throws, the Soviets inbounded the ball and failed to score in those three seconds. But one official had whistled play to stop with one second remaining after hearing the earlier horn and seeing a disturbance near the scorers' table. The Soviets then argued that they had requested a timeout before Collins' foul shots. The referees ordered the clock reset and the game's final three seconds replayed. The clock was in the process of being reset when the referees put the ball in play. A length-of-the-court Soviet pass missed its mark, the horn sounded, and the USA again began celebrating.
However, R. William Jones, secretary general of FIBA, ordered the clock to be reset again at 0:03 and the game replayed from that point. Jones had no authority to make a ruling during a game, but his power in the sport was such that the officials complied with the order anyway. He was quoted later as saying, "The Americans have to learn how to lose." This time, the Soviet team's Ivan Edeshko threw the long pass. Aleksandr Belov and the USA's Kevin Joyce and Jim Forbes went up for the pass at the foul line. Belov caught the ball and threw his elbows, sending the two Americans sprawling. Belov then drove to the basket for the layup, scoring the winning points as the horn sounded for the last time.
The U.S. team immediately filed a protest, which was heard by a five-man jury of appeal. In a 3-2 decision divided along Cold War lines (Puerto Rico and Italy voted to uphold the appeal, while Hungary, Cuba and Poland voted to reject it), the jury voted down the protest and awarded the gold medals to the Soviet team.[2] The U.S. players voted unanimously to refuse their silver medals. The team and coaching staff refused to participate in the medals ceremony, and the public address announcer said over the loudspeaker that "The United States team refuses to accept the silver medal. They believe they deserve the gold." To this day, none of the players on that squad have requested their silver medals; in fact, several members have directed in their wills that their heirs are never to accept the medals, even posthumously.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_at_the_1972_Summer_Olympics
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It was pretty ridiculous.
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The first thing that came to my mind:
1972 Summer Olympics - Basketball Gold Medal Match controversy
he 1972 Olympic men's basketball gold medal game, marking the first ever loss for Team USA in Olympic play, is arguably the most controversial in Olympic history. The United States rode their seven consecutive gold medals and 63-0 Olympic record to Munich for the 1972 Summer Olympics. The team won its first eight games in convincing fashion, setting up a final against the Soviet Union.
With three seconds left in the gold medal game, American guard Doug Collins sank two free throws to put the Americans up 50-49. The horn that would normally signal the end of the game erroneously sounded before Collins's second free throw. Immediately following Collins's free throws, the Soviets inbounded the ball and failed to score in those three seconds. But one official had whistled play to stop with one second remaining after hearing the earlier horn and seeing a disturbance near the scorers' table. The Soviets then argued that they had requested a timeout before Collins' foul shots. The referees ordered the clock reset and the game's final three seconds replayed. The clock was in the process of being reset when the referees put the ball in play. A length-of-the-court Soviet pass missed its mark, the horn sounded, and the USA again began celebrating.
However, R. William Jones, secretary general of FIBA, ordered the clock to be reset again at 0:03 and the game replayed from that point. Jones had no authority to make a ruling during a game, but his power in the sport was such that the officials complied with the order anyway. He was quoted later as saying, "The Americans have to learn how to lose." This time, the Soviet team's Ivan Edeshko threw the long pass. Aleksandr Belov and the USA's Kevin Joyce and Jim Forbes went up for the pass at the foul line. Belov caught the ball and threw his elbows, sending the two Americans sprawling. Belov then drove to the basket for the layup, scoring the winning points as the horn sounded for the last time.
The U.S. team immediately filed a protest, which was heard by a five-man jury of appeal. In a 3-2 decision divided along Cold War lines (Puerto Rico and Italy voted to uphold the appeal, while Hungary, Cuba and Poland voted to reject it), the jury voted down the protest and awarded the gold medals to the Soviet team.[2] The U.S. players voted unanimously to refuse their silver medals. The team and coaching staff refused to participate in the medals ceremony, and the public address announcer said over the loudspeaker that "The United States team refuses to accept the silver medal. They believe they deserve the gold." To this day, none of the players on that squad have requested their silver medals; in fact, several members have directed in their wills that their heirs are never to accept the medals, even posthumously.[3]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basketball_at_the_1972_Summer_Olympics
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I say we pay the Polish judges back by putting fake missiles and cardboard launchers all over the place in Poland.
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I say we pay the Polish judges back by putting fake missiles and cardboard launchers all over the place in Poland.
Imagine Boroda's response as he sends his Armored Division's into a trap, brilliantly conceived by the masterful "Hang and his Defense that never was"?
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What eskimo2 said.
The USA v USSR game was a total chaotic cluster in the last minute of the game and it cost the USA gold.
A good friend of mine was whaching that game at the time and vowed to himself that someday he'd do something to avoid that in the future.
Years later, he became a college basketball ref...and after paying his dues, became an NBA ref. He did that for many years and then retired.
As an amateur radio operator, he knew of a system called "Spread-Spectrum" communications, spearheaded (in the 1940's) by then actress Heddy Lamarr and secret ops trailblazer. With spread-sprectrum, you transmit a signal that hops from frequency to frequency in what appears to be a totally random order--but the recieving station is also locked into the exact same apparent random order--so that the entire message gets through--but anyone attempting to listen in......can't.
My friend Michael invented the Precision Time system that you see in all major time-exact sports today. It can't be hacked. It can't be monitored, and only the exact radio PL encoded whistle will work with each reciever. Any moron in the stands with a store-bought whistle hoping to stop the clock will just end up getting thrown out of the stadium.
Now, when a ref blows the whistle, the clock stops at the radio wave speed of light.
WTG Michael Costabile!!!
ROX
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What eskimo2 said.
The USA v USSR game was a total chaotic cluster in the last minute of the game and it cost the USA gold.
A good friend of mine was whaching that game at the time and vowed to himself that someday he'd do something to avoid that in the future.
Years later, he became a college basketball ref...and after paying his dues, became an NBA ref. He did that for many years and then retired.
As an amateur radio operator, he knew of a system called "Spread-Spectrum" communications, spearheaded (in the 1940's) by then actress Heddy Lamarr and secret ops trailblazer. With spread-sprectrum, you transmit a signal that hops from frequency to frequency in what appears to be a totally random order--but the recieving station is also locked into the exact same apparent random order--so that the entire message gets through--but anyone attempting to listen in......can't.
My friend Michael invented the Precision Time system that you see in all major time-exact sports today. It can't be hacked. It can't be monitored, and only the exact radio PL encoded whistle will work with each reciever. Any moron in the stands with a store-bought whistle hoping to stop the clock will just end up getting thrown out of the stadium.
Now, when a ref blows the whistle, the clock stops at the radio wave speed of light.
WTG Michael Costabile!!!
ROX
Great story!
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Imagine Boroda's response as he sends his Armored Division's into a trap, brilliantly conceived by the masterful "Hang and his Defense that never was"?
Well, they screwed us.. the polish judge 'n the rooski's with the bogus call on that hoops game.
Olympic hoops. :furious
bombing is too good for 'em.
what's more fitting than getting the two of 'em to rip each others heads off... over cardboard launchers.
Machiavelli wuz an amateur. When is the world gonna learn not to mess with american couch potatoes.
Muahahahahhahahha!
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FIA didn't help Ferrari...the race stewards penalised Hamilton...somehow its always the Ferrari/FIA conspiracy not someone eles fault 'ala the '05 USGP
I watched the race, and indeed Hamilton got an advantage even though Hamilton "let" Kimi nose back ahead, but considering the outcome of the lap Hamilton probably would've got him further on anyhow but if Kimi had kept if straight after Hamilton spun off after almost spearing into a Williams who knows....
Hamilton was just lucky it rained because he had nothing all race even when the Ferrari was on the hard Bridgestones. I personally think he struggles chasing people down unless the Mclaren has a decisive advantage - unless he leads from the front he often just trundles around
Tronsky