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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Warspawn on September 07, 2008, 06:14:31 PM
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Didn't know where to post this...
With the A20, there's an 8x500lb option, but if you're not careful, you can lose track of internal vs. external ords. I'm sure there are other aircraft with this problem.
Anyone have a list?
Is there a way we can have an "I" or "E" by the bombload selected to indicate what we're about to drop?
Thanks!
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normally when i start out in a A20 the internal is the first 500lb bomb option for me
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aye, but when i'm switching quickly, I tend to lose track. Guess there's no need? I'll have to figure out a notepad or something, lol...
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i usually use the bomb bay first then wing bombs
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Why dont you just open your bomb bay anyways before you drop just to be safe? :rolleyes:
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whoops forgot about doing that :lol
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Done that, but when turnin' and burnin' the drag kills you like landing gear down...
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Didn't know where to post this...
With the A20, there's an 8x500lb option, but if you're not careful, you can lose track of internal vs. external ords. I'm sure there are other aircraft with this problem.
Anyone have a list?
Is there a way we can have an "I" or "E" by the bombload selected to indicate what we're about to drop?
Thanks!
Sounds like a reasonable request to me.
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aye, but when i'm switching quickly, I tend to lose track. Guess there's no need? I'll have to figure out a notepad or something, lol...
I believe this is part of the IMMERSION factor. Just throwing a 900lb Bovine into the wind off of a Trebuchet though.
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Done that, but when turnin' and burnin' the drag kills you like landing gear down...
Go F3, drop on em, find out, then close em
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I agree. I just started trying out the A20 recently and it's the one biggest thing I hate about it.
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Go F3, drop on em, find out, then close em
Or FIX this? I'm 99% sure that in real life, there was some way of determining wether an external weapons was being armed as opposed to an internal store.
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What i do, is the second i hit the runway i hit backspace, after that there is no need to touch it again.
You will then be selected on wing bombs, if fighters intercept you, you can drop wing bombs and get better handeling,weight and speed. Not to mention if will help you pull g's... too many g's and your wing's will rip off.
I have made the mistake of droping internal, and pulling out hard, the x4 1k worth of bombs will make your wings snap off under 2g's if you have 50% fule and are going over 200mph.
So, proceed with caution, always drop the wing bombs first.
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I have made the mistake of droping internal, and pulling out hard, the x4 1k worth of bombs will make your wings snap off under 2g's if you have 50% fule and are going over 200mph.
So, proceed with caution, always drop the wing bombs first.
Hmm...
I've been told that the internal ordinance caused more stress on the airframe than that which is carried externally on the wings.
*edit* The mossie could also benefit from an indicator, although with the guns selected you have an easier time counting your backspaces in order to select the proper load to drop...
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It's been posted before....an indication request for internal/external. And it makes sense. Adding an "I" or "E" to the dash board shouldn't be to hard
nothing drives me more nuts than lining up the bomb run then getting a damn bomb bay doors are not open
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Yeap. I requested the same thing a few months ago. For me, I was learning the game and couldnt tell which set of ords I had selected in a Mossi. After enough times, I simply learned that the first selection was the bombay ords and the second wing ords.
Now.. I dont fly enough of the other planes with the internal/external issues, however I am told that it isnt the same as the Mossi (int first, ext second). Anyone?
Having a small lower case '"i/e" right next to the secondary ammo disply would go along way. or... I understand there should be a benefit to knowing the plane outright as well and that means no indicator. ;)
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The A-20G, Mosquito Mk VI and Il-2 all share this issue, and worse, they are not consistant among eachother as to which are the internal and which are the external bombs.
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As far as realism, wouldn't the bombadier or person pickling the ordinance off know which was selected? Wouldn't there be a warning about the bomb bay doors not open for the bombs selected or something?
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yeah irl you'd know exactly what you were pickling off. thats a big yes from me btw :aok
PS a bomb indicator in the F6 view for level bombers would be good too - boring having to go to the cockpit to find out if you've got a 500lb or 4000lb loaded :rolleyes:
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I've been told that the internal ordinance caused more stress on the airframe than that which is carried externally on the wings.
certainly increases the overall wing loading, so stress on the wing root. I'm guessing the extra stress from external loads is at the pylon, so maybe more likely to lose a wingtip?
either way I'll take the reduced drag and better roll-rate by dropping externals every time in an A20 or mossie :D
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In a Mossie too.
What I do to over come this problem is not switch anything before takeoff or in flight, until I'm about to drop it, because the default is the internal bombs.
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As far as realism, wouldn't the bombadier or person pickling the ordinance off know which was selected? Wouldn't there be a warning about the bomb bay doors not open for the bombs selected or something?
There is one ;)
In the F6 bombsight of bombers, and a light on the dash as well.
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The problem with the a20 is if you dive-bomb a Gv and drop from the bay and pullup from your dive the added 2k load on the wings tends to snap them off.
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The problem with the a20 is if you dive-bomb a Gv and drop from the bay and pullup from your dive the added 2k load on the wings tends to snap them off.
Actually, the wing load from ordinance mounted there would have less effect than extra weight from ordinance in the fuselage. The wings produce lift where the ordinance is mounted, tending to lift it with the wing structure.
Much like aircraft today in general aviation, weight in the wings is generally a good thing, with turbulence having less effect and aircraft able to maintain a higher speed in bumpy conditions if they have a greater portion of their gross weight in the wings, rather than the fuselage.