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Title: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 09, 2008, 01:35:40 AM
Well, after my screenshot tutorial, I'm going to put up a basic for making your own film.

First, you need to open up your film viewer, and open up Fraps (go to www.fraps.com to download it for free)

Make sure you have the 'No Cursor' selected.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/MovieMakingTutorial-1.jpg)

You then need to open up your film viewer and go to the shot you wish to see and pause. There will then be a bar you can use to adjust speed, slower speeds make you less jerky and they look better in films.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/MovieMakingTutorial-3.jpg)

When the text is yellow, it means it isn't recording, when it's red, it means it is Recording.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/MovieMakingTutorial-2.jpg)

As soon as you get everything you want recorded, you open up Windows Movie Maker, and you click 'Import Audio' and find your song. Put it where it is circled in red, then find 'Import Video' and place the videos accordingly.
(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/MovieMakingTutorial-4.jpg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/MovieMakingTutorial-5.jpg)

As soon as you get everything going like that, you click 'Add titles or Credits' and 'Video transitions' to add to your video the finishing changes to it.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/MovieMakingTutorial-6.jpg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/MovieMakingTutorial-7.jpg)

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/MovieMakingTutorial-8.jpg)


As soon as everything is perfected, you need to click 'Save to my Computer' and save in 'My Videos' Then, upload it to youtube, vimeo, or where-ever else you would want it.

(http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh71/1pLUs44/MovieMakingTutorial-9.jpg)
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Chalenge on September 09, 2008, 02:17:52 AM
Skuzzy please sticky this thread!  :aok
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: crazierthanu on September 09, 2008, 05:58:48 AM
Nice tutorial, but we wanna know how to get that brilliant quality like you do  :D


Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 09, 2008, 06:01:15 AM
Honestly, I dont know :noid :noid

But someone else made a thread on how to get good shots, I'm thinking about quote/copy/paste unless he wants to post it up here.


Edit: please check out new movie! :D
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Fulmar on September 09, 2008, 08:13:34 AM
Yeah, now I know for sure why your movie's are jerky.  Your fraps is recording at 7 FPS.  Really need to target at least 30 FPS if you want smooth video.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: lowZX14 on September 09, 2008, 08:49:56 AM
Ok, let me get this straight, FRAPS records in AVI or some other codec that is accepted by WMM.....
How can I just take what I have from the saved camera shots and get them into WMM?

I want to use Power Director or whatever else it is I have, but I'm at the in-laws playing with this thing and they have Vista which I cannot install my PD on that I got last year with my DVD burner, so WMM it is for me, go figure.

BTW, thanks 1pLUs44, now I just have to convince the chief financial officer of the house to let me download and buy FRAPS.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: ImADot on September 09, 2008, 08:55:31 AM
I didn't use Fraps (which I believe just records what your monitor is displaying).  After setting up my shot, I click the "stream to AVI" box next to the "Play Shot" button.  When I click the button to play the shot, it prompts me to choose a filename to save as, and allows me to choose a codec from a list of installed avi codecs.  Then it renders the shot as avi.  On my "crappy" laptop during vacation, it took longer to render the scene than the real-time playback (perhaps 3 minutes to create a 2-minute shot).  But, the quality and smoothness of the result was (imho) very satisfactory.

See my first movie in this thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,246237.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,246237.0.html)
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Fulmar on September 09, 2008, 10:27:03 AM
I didn't use Fraps (which I believe just records what your monitor is displaying).  After setting up my shot, I click the "stream to AVI" box next to the "Play Shot" button.  When I click the button to play the shot, it prompts me to choose a filename to save as, and allows me to choose a codec from a list of installed avi codecs.  Then it renders the shot as avi.  On my "crappy" laptop during vacation, it took longer to render the scene than the real-time playback (perhaps 3 minutes to create a 2-minute shot).  But, the quality and smoothness of the result was (imho) very satisfactory.

See my first movie in this thread: http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,246237.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,246237.0.html)
Yes, seriously, FRAPS is handy because it's fairly simple to use an can work across multiple games.  But in the case that you have a slow computer and your fraps recording frames is sub 30 FPS, for sure use this route.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: lowZX14 on September 09, 2008, 12:32:37 PM
The computer I have now is terrible, only a 64mb vid card, plus it's about 4 1/2 years old.  Working on getting a new one built, but it may be a little while.  I can try to run it and see how it will do.  I normally pull off a frame rate in the 40's or so in-game.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Fulmar on September 09, 2008, 01:09:43 PM
The computer I have now is terrible, only a 64mb vid card, plus it's about 4 1/2 years old.  Working on getting a new one built, but it may be a little while.  I can try to run it and see how it will do.  I normally pull off a frame rate in the 40's or so in-game.
You'd be lucky to achieve above 10 FPS when recording with Fraps.  When recording, FRAPS is very demanding on your computer.  It's much more intensive than just playing Aces High.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: BMathis on September 09, 2008, 01:28:35 PM
Im still having planes jumping around my screen in the Film Viewer as the film plays...
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: lowZX14 on September 09, 2008, 02:40:43 PM
You'd be lucky to achieve above 10 FPS when recording with Fraps.  When recording, FRAPS is very demanding on your computer.  It's much more intensive than just playing Aces High.
Alrighty then, I will just use the process that ImADot outlined earlier.  I guess I should save the money for FRAPS when I get a new machine.  When it's time for that I'll ask for some recommendations for the new computer since I'm building my own.

I also have planes jumping around in Film Viewer from time to time.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: ImADot on September 09, 2008, 03:27:35 PM
When you use the film viewer to "stream to avi", it plays back slower as it renders - but your final movie file should play back very smoothly.  Down side is that you are limited to a relatively small video size - like 640x480.  If you want to record a fullscreen movie, your only option is to playback the film viewer is fullscreen mode and use something like Fraps to record it.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Fulmar on September 09, 2008, 04:05:52 PM
640x480 isn't bad for a video.  Remember, standard screen DVD's are rendered at 640x480 or 720x480 for widescreen.  Every AH movie I've done is been 720x480.  I prefer WMV 9 codec at either 90 or 93%.  Anything higher % wise is going to dramatically increase the file size of the movie without much quality gain.  Say a 5 min movie is 50mb at 90% and it would be probably close to 150mb at 97% quality.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: BMathis on September 09, 2008, 06:31:47 PM
<<S>> twinboom.  Nice to see a face on someone who kills me in the MA.  :D
 
:salute to Yankfan. Great film work there!

Mathis
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Spikes on September 09, 2008, 07:40:47 PM
Is WWM more user friendly than Vegas Pro 9?
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 09, 2008, 10:36:28 PM
Ok, let me get this straight, FRAPS records in AVI or some other codec that is accepted by WMM.....
How can I just take what I have from the saved camera shots and get them into WMM?

I want to use Power Director or whatever else it is I have, but I'm at the in-laws playing with this thing and they have Vista which I cannot install my PD on that I got last year with my DVD burner, so WMM it is for me, go figure.

BTW, thanks 1pLUs44, now I just have to convince the chief financial officer of the house to let me download and buy FRAPS.

I just put up basically how I do it. I find FRAPS easiest just because it has everything I need to get me started right there.  :aok

The WMM will probably take just about anything.


As for Vegas Pro 9, I wouldn't know, WMM is really easy for the most part. Most of the stuff on it is common sense.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: lowZX14 on September 10, 2008, 07:41:06 AM
640x480 isn't bad for a video.  Remember, standard screen DVD's are rendered at 640x480 or 720x480 for widescreen.  Every AH movie I've done is been 720x480.  I prefer WMV 9 codec at either 90 or 93%.  Anything higher % wise is going to dramatically increase the file size of the movie without much quality gain.  Say a 5 min movie is 50mb at 90% and it would be probably close to 150mb at 97% quality.

Ok, glad you told me that, because I wasn't sure which codec or % to use.  Is the file size that much of an issue when you're posting on a site?

Thanks 1pLUs44, from what Fulmar told me, I'm going to have to hold off on FRAPS for a while and just cope with the fact that the quality won't be as good.

Look for my first video posting on Friday at the latest, or so I hope.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Fulmar on September 10, 2008, 09:12:40 AM
Is WWM more user friendly than Vegas Pro 9?
Very very much so.

WMM 9 is about as vanilla as they come with movie makers.  One you get a hold of how to do things in WMM 9 and do it fairly well is when I'd just ship to Vegas if you wanted to buy it.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: flatiron1 on October 16, 2008, 12:55:31 PM
how long does it take youtube to process a film?


ok forget that question.  it says "failed unable to convert video file"

what I did was copy parts of ah2 films with fraps and then combined them with moviemaker. But will not convert to youtube.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: flatiron1 on October 16, 2008, 10:39:37 PM
OK i hardly ever give up on something but just about there on this film making deal. Maybe its a vista issue. seems like everything seems easy for everyone else but vista seems to cause a lot of problems finding and doing stuff. Anyhow I have been able to get a movie made using fraps and moviemaker in combo just can't seem to get it where anyone else can see it. Tried youtube route and got "it says "failed unable to convert video file"".Tried the Vimeo route and can't seem to get to my video to upload it. Say for instance I have something saved on desktop but when I browse the desktop half the stuff on the desktop does not show up. I can't even find the moviemaker from the browser function. Any ideas will be appreciated.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: lowZX14 on October 17, 2008, 08:54:31 AM
I dunno cuz I used Vista to do mine at my in-laws house. 
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: 4deck on November 13, 2008, 06:58:37 AM
This would make a good sticky :aok or put into the trainers area writeups
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Ponyace on November 14, 2008, 11:53:02 PM
Wow, this is great help, Plus,
One question, though, how do you get music in your videos. I have an Ipod account, but cant get songs from there to the video. Is there a way to do it, or should I just abandon it altogether?
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Fulmar on November 15, 2008, 01:19:34 AM
Wow, this is great help, Plus,
One question, though, how do you get music in your videos. I have an Ipod account, but cant get songs from there to the video. Is there a way to do it, or should I just abandon it altogether?
It's either Windows Movie Maker doesn't support the .mp4 file format or Itunes DRM is preventing it, or both.
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Ponyace on November 15, 2008, 06:35:45 AM
Ok, so how do I get music for the movie, then?
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 15, 2008, 06:10:26 PM
All of my music is from CD's that I have, I get them from "My Music" in the My Documents folder.

I know there is a way you can convert the MP4 format to MP3 or something like that using a type of Window's converting thing. (That is either already on your computer or comes with WMM)
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: fudgums on November 15, 2008, 06:34:09 PM
i see your out of jail plus
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: gldnbb on August 09, 2009, 04:53:43 PM
Fraps download doesn't seem to work.  Hitting the Video Capture Hotkey,  It never goes 'red'  to indicate recording.  Just bounces from a  white  '1'  then back to yellow.

Also,  using Aces High Film Viewer to save to AVI  doesnt seem to want to play either...

Suggestions?
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Fulmar on August 10, 2009, 08:35:19 PM
Fraps download doesn't seem to work.  Hitting the Video Capture Hotkey,  It never goes 'red'  to indicate recording.  Just bounces from a  white  '1'  then back to yellow.

Also,  using Aces High Film Viewer to save to AVI  doesnt seem to want to play either...

Suggestions?
What key do you have assigned to record?
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: Denholm on August 10, 2009, 10:10:16 PM
Which Operating System are you using?
Title: Re: Movie Making Tutorial - The Basics
Post by: gldnbb on August 12, 2009, 06:17:38 PM
What key do you have assigned to record?

Video capture hotkey is F8.    However when reloading the program I noticed an error that my ' ATI Catalys drivers are out of date!"....   Is that the issue?  It goes on to say "There my be performance problems capturing video from your games...."

I really dont want to download latest drivers since it seems anytime I do, it messes with my system which works fine at the moment. 

THX