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Title: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Toad on September 10, 2008, 04:11:27 PM
Even Biden is running scared now. I agree, Biden was a Sominex pick; he's done nothing to liven up the Obamessiah campaign. I am a bit surprised to see him floating the surrender trial balloon so early.

I wonder if Hill would dive in to save Obamessiah? I can't figure that one. Will she be a team player and rescue the Dems? Or will she say 2012 is looking better and better?


Biden: Hillary might have been better VP pick

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

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NASHUA, New Hampshire (CNN) — Joe Biden told supporters at a town hall Wednesday afternoon that Barack Obama might have been better off choosing Hillary Clinton as his running mate.

Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Slamfire on September 10, 2008, 04:30:55 PM
Matt Damon rips Palin, calls her 'terrifying'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/10/damon-rips-palin-calls-her-terrifying/ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/10/damon-rips-palin-calls-her-terrifying/)

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

OOOHHHH NNNOOOOEEESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: crockett on September 10, 2008, 04:37:44 PM
Matt Damon rips Palin, calls her 'terrifying'
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/10/damon-rips-palin-calls-her-terrifying/ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/10/damon-rips-palin-calls-her-terrifying/)

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

OOOHHHH NNNOOOOEEESSS!!!!!!!!!!!!

He's actually pretty smart on the political side of things.

In fact I totally agree with what he said..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxkrm9uEJk
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: GtoRA2 on September 10, 2008, 04:44:28 PM
Why would she soil herself like that Toad? Her best shot is 2012, Obama is starting to look like a sinking ship.  Could you imagine the shake up over him swapping to her now?  I think it would kill his campaign. Talk about the Flip Flop of all flip flops.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Slamfire on September 10, 2008, 04:51:29 PM
He's actually pretty smart on the political side of things.

In fact I totally agree with what he said..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxkrm9uEJk

Classic FUD attack - very weak.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: RedTop on September 10, 2008, 04:54:23 PM
He's actually pretty smart on the political side of things.

In fact I totally agree with what he said..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxkrm9uEJk

I must say I am SHOCKED you would totally agree with Matt........


NOT!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Dowding on September 10, 2008, 04:58:39 PM
Actually, I think Damon raises some valid points based on the facts available.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Stang on September 10, 2008, 05:00:55 PM
He does... he's right that there is a chance that McCain might not live out his four years if elected.  But let's also be fair to Governor Palin in finding out who she is.  That hasn't happened, not even close.  Hysteria is what has set in, not an informed discussion. 

Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: JAGED on September 10, 2008, 05:01:26 PM
Actually, I think Damon raises some valid points based on the facts available.

"I don't know anything about her..."

Ergo, Matt's comments are useless...
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Charon on September 10, 2008, 05:15:16 PM
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Damon and longtime friend Ben Affleck endorsed Obama last year and have been vocal in their support of the Illinois senator. The two also attended a $1,000 per-person fundraiser for Obama in Miami last month.

I bet he is terrified of her.

Charon

Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Fulmar on September 10, 2008, 05:49:49 PM
He's actually pretty smart on the political side of things.

In fact I totally agree with what he said..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxkrm9uEJk
Yes, because I go to Hollywood actors for political advice.  Clearly they have the best judgement.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: gwano on September 10, 2008, 06:15:49 PM
Yes, because I go to Hollywood actors for political advice.  Clearly they have the best judgement.

 :rofl :rofl :rofl

at least they "ACT" smart. Theyr'e professionals?
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Elfie on September 10, 2008, 06:20:18 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl

at least they "ACT" smart. Theyr'e professionals?



 :rofl
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Dago on September 10, 2008, 07:45:42 PM
Am I supposed to think a high school graduate from the Boston area who works as an actor is now some political genius who's opinion should mean diddly-squat to me?
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Maverick on September 10, 2008, 07:50:03 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl

at least they "ACT" smart. Theyr'e professionals?


That's true they do, but that's because someone else wrote what they say to make them "look" smart.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 10, 2008, 07:58:41 PM
one ad hominem after another... :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Ripsnort on September 10, 2008, 07:59:12 PM
Yes, because I go to Hollywood actors for political advice.  Clearly they have the best judgement.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: SkyRock on September 10, 2008, 08:00:52 PM
Holy moly!!!   How do I find out if this is actually a quote from Gov. Palin....

"God made dinosaurs 4,000 years ago as ultimately flawed creatures, lizards of Satan really, so when they died and became petroleum products we, made in his perfect image, could use them in our pickup trucks, snow machines and fishing boats."


I mean did she really say this?
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Captain Virgil Hilts on September 10, 2008, 08:01:30 PM
:rofl :rofl :rofl

at least they "ACT" smart. Theyr'e professionals?


No, but they stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: REP0MAN on September 10, 2008, 08:03:28 PM
Yes, truly scared they are. They've even resorted to Christianity....

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This morning, Rep. Steve Cohen (D-TN) used his one minute on the floor of the House of Representatives to say the following:

    I submit to you, Mr. Speaker, um, that the parties have differences, but if you want Change, but if you want change, you want the Democratic party, uh, Barack Obama was a community organizer like Jesus who our, uh, minister prayed about, uh, Pontius Pilate was a governor.

    Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/sep/10/democratic-rep-cohen-tn-09-from-house-floo/

Really? Like Jesus? C'mon.

Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 10, 2008, 08:17:46 PM
He's actually pretty smart on the political side of things.

In fact I totally agree with what he said..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxkrm9uEJk

I am not a McCain supporter but
 Prior to running how much did anyone really know about Obama.
How much does anyone still know about Obama other then what he and the media puts out?

How many world leaders has Obama faced down?
Answer = 0

And Personally I dont see the connection between Nukes and Dionosaurs.
WTF difference does it make what her beliefs are on that subject with regards to nukes?

Its important to keep in mind. Just because someone is a celebrity. Doesnt make their opinions any more legitimate then any of one else in this country.

For someone who is supposed to be highly educated. He commits very little to logical thought process other then to apply it in a way that it tows the liberal line.

Most people in this country dont know jack about the person they vote for.
all they know is the friendly face on TV and what portrait the media paints of them
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: SkyRock on September 10, 2008, 08:24:31 PM


And Personally I dont see the connection between Nukes and Dionosaurs.
WTF difference does it make what her beliefs are on that subject with regards to nukes?


Anyone who actually believes that dinosaurs existed 4000 years ago, should not be in power. 
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: WWhiskey on September 10, 2008, 08:27:54 PM
Anyone who actually believes that dinosaurs existed 4000 years ago, should not be in power. 

debunked on your other thread, check it out

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=palin+quotes&fr=ush-news
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: SkyRock on September 10, 2008, 08:28:54 PM
debunked on your other thread, check it out

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=palin+quotes&fr=ush-news

saw it, tnx! :aok
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: WWhiskey on September 10, 2008, 08:29:06 PM
I bet he is terrified of her.

Charon



poor fellow :(
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 10, 2008, 08:32:11 PM
Anyone who actually believes that dinosaurs existed 4000 years ago, should not be in power. 

If your a hard right leaning Christian republican.
Thats exactly what you should be believing.

Thing is. this is the first time I ever remember it comming up as a subject to help decide an election.
The thing with 4,000 years ago is a matter of faith.

I see no connection between what may or may not have happened 4,000 years ago and her having control over nukes today.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Motherland on September 10, 2008, 08:34:43 PM
If your a hard right leaning Christian republican.
Thats exactly what you should be beleiveing.
Though she is a Fundamentalist Christian as far as I've read... I've never read anything suggesting that she's a Young-Earth Creationist... though it's probable...
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Toad on September 10, 2008, 08:42:34 PM
This is funny.

The thread is about Biden saying that Hillary was a better choice for Veep.

The libs can't help themselves though; they can only talk about Palin.

They've been flanked and don't even realize it.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: SkyRock on September 10, 2008, 08:45:43 PM
If your a hard right leaning Christian republican.
Thats exactly what you should be believing.

Thing is. this is the first time I ever remember it comming up as a subject to help decide an election.
The thing with 4,000 years ago is a matter of faith.

I see no connection between what may or may not have happened 4,000 years ago and her having control over nukes today.
Anyone who really believes dinosaurs lived 4000 years ago is lacking in fundamental logic and reasoning.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 10, 2008, 08:47:37 PM
Though she is a Fundamentalist Christian as far as I've read... I've never read anything suggesting that she's a Young-Earth Creationist... though it's probable...

Based on everything I've been able to find so far.
Basically its a Christian thing
With them claiming earth being between 6 and 12,000 years old


Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: SkyRock on September 10, 2008, 08:47:42 PM
This is funny.

The thread is about Biden saying that Hillary was a better choice for Veep.

The libs can't help themselves though; they can only talk about Palin.

They've been flanked and don't even realize it.
actually I am just bringing everything I hear to the O'club, although you might take a beating, you generally find the bottom of it rather quickly. :aok
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Elfie on September 10, 2008, 08:52:13 PM
Though she is a Fundamentalist Christian as far as I've read... I've never read anything suggesting that she's a Young-Earth Creationist... though it's probable...

Those go hand in hand......anyone that claims to be a Christian should also be believing in Creation since it's all part of the same book. ;)
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 10, 2008, 08:53:19 PM
Anyone who really believes dinosaurs lived 4000 years ago is lacking in fundamental logic and reasoning.

Well if your a creationist. Thats exactly what you should be thinking according to Christian Scientists.

Dont get mad at me.
I think the religious right is just as kooky as the socialist left LOL
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 10, 2008, 08:55:00 PM
Those go hand in hand......anyone that claims to be a Christian should also be believing in Creation since it's all part of the same book. ;)
Unless you're Catholic? :confused:  Last time I checked Catholics accept evolution as a scientific theory and deny the bible is a self-sufficient text to be interpreted literally.  Just saying...
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Toad on September 10, 2008, 08:55:16 PM
actually I am just bringing everything I hear to the O'club,

Nothing wrong with that but if you want a Palin rumor thread there is already one of those. If you want a bash Palin with wild accusations thread there are several of those. If you want a Palin is unqualified thread there are some of those.

This thread, however, is about Biden saying Hillary would have been a better choice for Veep.

Just check the thread titles; they are a handy guide in most cases.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Elfie on September 10, 2008, 08:55:40 PM
Anyone who really believes dinosaurs lived 4000 years ago is lacking in fundamental logic and reasoning.

Always the insults towards people who don't believe as you do. It's not just you either.

We Christians are somehow *lesser* mentally because we believe in a God that created the entire universe.   :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Hangtime on September 10, 2008, 08:56:46 PM
Well if your a creationist. Thats exactly what you should be thinking according to Christian Scientists.

Dont get mad at me.
I think the religious right is just as kooky as the socialist left LOL

actually I am just bringing everything I hear to the O'club, although you might take a beating, you generally find the bottom of it rather quickly. :aok

that's the 'thing' about aumricum polyticks. It are iterusting. and yuh learn stuff.

*burp*
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Elfie on September 10, 2008, 08:57:43 PM
Unless you're Catholic? :confused:  Last time I checked Catholics accept evolution as a scientific theory and deny the bible is a self-sufficient text to be interpreted literally.  Just saying...

I accept Evolution as a theory because that's all it is, a theory. I've never heard that Catholics deny the bible as a self-sufficient text to be interpreted literally.......
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 10, 2008, 08:58:16 PM
Anyone who actually believes that dinosaurs existed 4000 years ago, should not be in power. 

I saw a documentary where some billionaire bought an island off Costa Rica and developed dinosaurs out of recomnbinant dna recovered from mosquitos sealed in amber.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 10, 2008, 09:02:17 PM
I accept Evolution as a theory because that's all it is, a theory. I've never heard that Catholics deny the bible as a self-sufficient text to be interpreted literally.......

In science, if you come up with a theory you are hot stuff.  "Theory" has a higher epistemic status than "hypothesis."  When people say "only a theory," they are misusing language.

Jesuits are famous for making anti-foundational arguments against protestant scriptural literalism.

The wiki article on this topic seems decent enough: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura)
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: SkyRock on September 10, 2008, 09:06:07 PM


This thread, however, is about Biden saying Hillary would have been a better choice for Veep.


Wrong, bro, seriously I didn't even know he said that, I generally do not watch the tv. 
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Shifty on September 10, 2008, 09:08:35 PM
Always the insults towards people who don't believe as you do. It's not just you either.

We Christians are somehow *lesser* mentally because we believe in a God that created the entire universe.   :rolleyes:

He's just showing how much more tolerant he is than Christians.  ;)
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Elfie on September 10, 2008, 09:15:29 PM
In science, if you come up with a theory you are hot stuff.  "Theory" has a higher epistemic status than "hypothesis."  When people say "only a theory," they are misusing language.

Jesuits are famous for making anti-foundational arguments against protestant scriptural literalism.

The wiki article on this topic seems decent enough: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura)

I say theory, because theory does not = fact. Facts have a higher status than theory.

Quote
in distinction from the Roman Catholic view, which declares the Bible and tradition to be co-ordinate sources and rule of faith, and makes tradition, especially the decrees of popes and councils, the only legitimate and infallible interpreter of the Bible.

I'm assuming this is what you were talking about?
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Elfie on September 10, 2008, 09:16:36 PM
He's just showing how much more tolerant he is than Christians.  ;)

Must be.   :rofl
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 10, 2008, 09:19:23 PM
I say theory, because theory does not = fact. Facts have a higher status than theory.

Evolution is fact. That things change is undeniable.

The theory is the mechanism behind the change.  

Darwins theory is not evolution, Darwins theory is natural selection.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 10, 2008, 09:26:09 PM
I say theory, because theory does not = fact. Facts have a higher status than theory.

You're comparing apples and oranges.  Hypotheses and theories are dynamic explanations of facts.  There's no higher epistemic status in science than theory.  You can call our best theories "facts" if you like, but that's a colloquialism, a manner of speaking that belies the truth that there is always more data to be gathered.

I wasn't referencing any particular part of the wiki article because I hadn't pasted the link when I made the original post.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 10, 2008, 09:36:35 PM
The National Academy of Sciences says as much:

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Some scientific explanations are so well established that no new evidence is likely to alter them. The explanation becomes a scientific theory. In everyday language a theory means a hunch or speculation. Not so in science. In science, the word theory refers to a comprehensive explanation of an important feature of nature that is supported by many facts gathered over time. Theories also allow scientists to make predictions about as yet unobserved phenomena.

I really believe that a lot of the evolution debate is fueled by the ambiguity of the word "theory," between its everyday usage and what it means in science.  It pains me when I hear evolution proponents argue that evolution is a fact; they're making the problem worse.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Slamfire on September 10, 2008, 10:32:41 PM
I bet he is terrified of her.

Charon



...maybe he should seek therapy...
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Hangtime on September 10, 2008, 10:47:18 PM
shock therapy.

(http://psychiatrykills.tripod.com/Electroshock.jpg)

Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Animl on September 10, 2008, 10:55:59 PM
Paline is an over rated POS, just liek anyone else in politics. McCain was cool,.. right up until he got on the ticket, no he's a compulsive liar and hypocritical cry baby. He's lucky Paline took that focus off him.

But we're not voting for her, we're voting or not voting for him. The reason they make her such a big deal is because below her sensationalism there's nothing else there that could win it for them. All she does is repeat her convention speech word for word in every single speech. Americans have lost their damn minds. LOL

Stupid twice, stupid thrice.

Rome burned for a reason,... complete ignorance. :)

No I'm not saying Obama is THE answer, I'm just saying they are NOT the answer. IMO.

<shrug>

<waits patiently for fuse to burn down, and runs>
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Chalenge on September 10, 2008, 10:56:28 PM
Anyone who really believes dinosaurs lived 4000 years ago is lacking in fundamental logic and reasoning.

Hello? Conspiracy theories... monster hunters... the POTUS controls the weather (and oil prices)... area 51... You are describing 98% of the liberal voting block!
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: MORAY37 on September 11, 2008, 12:02:29 AM
He does... he's right that there is a chance that McCain might not live out his four years if elected.  But let's also be fair to Governor Palin in finding out who she is.  That hasn't happened, not even close.  Hysteria is what has set in, not an informed discussion. 



Palin?
On tape 11 months prior to proclaiming she said "No thanks" to the bridge to nowhere, saying she was FOR the bridge and that it was Alaska's right to infrastructure.  Got the money for the bridge, by the way, and spent it..... some of it on the damn road leading up to the bridge that wasn't to be built, for crying out loud.
Believes pipelines are the direct result of prayer.
Believes that our troops are doing "the lord's work" in the middle east.
Against Right to Choose. Would seek to appoint judges that would abolish Roe v Wade, were she president.
Against Evolution.  Wishes to mandate creationism teachings in public setting.
Against Environmental Conservation. 
Looked into banning books in a public library.
Gained more earmarks per capita, to her hometown than any other representative.
Fired the guy who wouldn't fire a state policeman, who was harassing her sister.  (I know, I don't blame her, but still, it is shady admittedly.  There are real grownup ways to go about things. I don't see that as one of em.)

I know enough about her to know that she is 300 years too late in her thought.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: WWhiskey on September 11, 2008, 12:22:26 AM
Palin?
On tape 11 months prior to proclaiming she said "No thanks" to the bridge to nowhere, saying she was FOR the bridge and that it was Alaska's right to infrastructure.  Got the money for the bridge, by the way, and spent it..... some of it on the damn road leading up to the bridge that wasn't to be built, for crying out loud.
Believes pipelines are the direct result of prayer.
Believes that our troops are doing "the lord's work" in the middle east.
Against Right to Choose. Would seek to appoint judges that would abolish Roe v Wade, were she president.
Against Evolution.  Wishes to mandate creationism teachings in public setting.
Against Environmental Conservation. 
Looked into banning books in a public library.
Gained more earmarks per capita, to her hometown than any other representative.
Fired the guy who wouldn't fire a state policeman, who was harassing her sister.  (I know, I don't blame her, but still, it is shady admittedly.  There are real grownup ways to go about things. I don't see that as one of em.)

I know enough about her to know that she is 300 years too late in her thought.

you should check snopes, most of those comments that you reference were made up by some blogger, i already posted the link twice today
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Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Getback on September 11, 2008, 03:10:18 AM
Yes, because I go to Hollywood actors for political advice.  Clearly they have the best judgement.

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl Yes we have learned so much from those folks who can't talk with out a script. Say, Like Obama.


You know where are Billiary and Hilliary? I think they like NoBama sinking. Remeber Obama gave Hilliary the finger on national TV.

I have a thought. Hilliary started out as a conservative Republican. I wonder if she looks at Palin and says, wow that could have been me.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: MORAY37 on September 11, 2008, 03:56:17 AM
you should check snopes, most of those comments that you reference were made up by some blogger, i already posted the link twice today
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Please sir, which ones.

At least 5 and probably 7 of those have direct tape evidence conferring her position. 

In any case, she's just a smokescreen.  McCain is hiding behind her, trying not to get any really big questions.

Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: eskimo2 on September 11, 2008, 04:00:17 AM
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Damon also said, adding later "I think there's a really good chance Sarah Palin could be president, and I think that's a really scary thing, because I don't know anything about her, and I don't think in eight weeks I am going to know anything about her.”

Translation: "Because I do all of my research on TV; I shouldn't have to put out the effort to actually READ."

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html (http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_palin.html)

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122100776282517559.html?mod=googlenews_wsj (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122100776282517559.html?mod=googlenews_wsj)
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: WWhiskey on September 11, 2008, 07:22:07 AM
Palin?
On tape (source please)11 months prior to proclaiming she said "No thanks" to the bridge to nowhere, saying she was FOR the bridge  just like Oboma, and Biden)and that it was Alaska's right to infrastructure.  Got the money for the bridge, by the way, and spent it..... some of it on the damn road leading up to the bridge that wasn't to be built, for crying out loud.
Believes pipelines are the direct result of prayer.
 


Believes that our troops are doing "the lord's work" in the middle east.

For those who care about facts instead of utterly ridiculous word-twisting - the full quote surrounding the bit that's getting so much play:

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending them out on a task that is from God"
pretty much a simple church prayer made by lots of people who actually do go to church especially those with kids about to be deployed there!
Against Right to Choose. Would seek to appoint judges that would abolish Roe v Wade, were she president.
 no info but as far as i kind find, no enterview ever existed. (again source please?)
Against Evolution.  Wishes to mandate creationism teachings in public setting.
 30 Aug blog  http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp
  snopes says false

Against Environmental Conservation. 
I'll try to tackle this one myself,,, :noid
 
Looked into banning books in a public library.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/bannedbooks.asp
"Mary Ellen said something along the line of",,,,I.E. 1996 gossip at best. snopes Say's false!
Gained more earmarks per capita, to her hometown than any other representative.
good for them, that only means she was doing her job! wouldn't it be nice if they all worked for there people instead of themselves?


Fired the guy who wouldn't fire a state policeman, who was harassing her sister.  (I know, I don't blame her, but still, it is shady admittedly.  There are real grownup ways to go about things. I don't see that as one of em.)

 she has yet to comment on this  but the guy who got fired says she didn't fire him for that! maybe he has some dark secret that got him canned,, bet you can't wait to find out what it is?



I know enough about her to know that she is 300 years too late in her thought.

really because most of the people in this country are still god fearing and still go to church and pray!


on a side note this is boring! find something real to debate!

Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: WWhiskey on September 11, 2008, 07:31:50 AM
Please sir, which ones.

At least 5 and probably 7 of those have direct tape evidence conferring her position. 

In any case, she's just a smokescreen.  McCain is hiding behind her, trying not to get any really big questions.


you mean McCain has been hiding for the last 30 years behind someone else, and just now she jumped up and said I'll do it?
 i would say he has been answering all the "big" questions for the last 30 years,
 and none of them had to do with cocaine use or his choice of pastors,or why he was affiliated with known terrorists?
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Toad on September 11, 2008, 07:34:42 AM
Wrong, bro, seriously I didn't even know he said that, I generally do not watch the tv. 

You're telling the guy that started the thread and provided a link to Biden's recorded statement that you know what the thread is about but I don't?

I can see why you support The Obamessiah.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: soda72 on September 11, 2008, 08:35:05 AM
I wonder if Matt is just as terrified about Iran and North Korea having nuc capabilities..
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: SkyRock on September 11, 2008, 08:45:44 AM
Hello? Conspiracy theories... monster hunters... the POTUS controls the weather (and oil prices)... area 51... You are describing 98% of the liberal voting block!
you're saying 98% of liberals believe that dinosaurs lived 4000 years ago?  :rofl
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Dowding on September 11, 2008, 01:54:17 PM
Quote
Yes, because I go to Hollywood actors for political advice.

"Hi, I'm President Ronald Reagan. You may know me from such films as..."

You gave the nuclear codes to an actor once before, it would seem. That's a step beyond 'asking for political advice'. And last time I checked, he didn't do that bad a job.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: AKIron on September 11, 2008, 02:23:05 PM
you should check snopes, most of those comments that you reference were made up by some blogger, i already posted the link twice today
(http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/content_cartoonbox_slate_com.gif)


hehe, great cartoon
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: WWhiskey on September 11, 2008, 03:32:22 PM
t y  :aok
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Toad on September 11, 2008, 03:46:16 PM
"Hi, I'm President Ronald Reagan. You may know me from such films as..."

You gave the nuclear codes to an actor once before, it would seem. That's a step beyond 'asking for political advice'. And last time I checked, he didn't do that bad a job.

I believe that guy was a college grad and two terms as Governor of California. Don't think Matt can claim either of those.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Dago on September 11, 2008, 05:02:18 PM
"Hi, I'm President Ronald Reagan. You may know me from such films as..."

You gave the nuclear codes to an actor once before, it would seem. That's a step beyond 'asking for political advice'. And last time I checked, he didn't do that bad a job.

"Hi, I'm President Reagan, you might know me because I was the Governor of one of the largest states in the USA with a large economy and diverse population before I became President".
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 11, 2008, 07:32:03 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I believe it is vitally important that the next President and Vice President have a post graduate level grasp of paleontology.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: bj229r on September 11, 2008, 07:38:58 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I believe it is vitally important that the next President and Vice President have a post graduate level grasp of paleontology.
ANYTHING except more #$@#$@#ing lawyers. Lawyers know nothing of people or economics, and they don't produce anything except billable hours and lawsuit settlements
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Hangtime on September 11, 2008, 07:58:22 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I believe it is vitally important that the next President and Vice President have a post graduate level grasp of paleontology.

What's so pressing about paleontology? Corruption, the lobbies, corporate thievery, the energy crisis, the economy, trade, foreign relations and immigration have dick-all to do with paleontology, abortion or lipstick on anything. They can worship muppets for all I care.

Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: moot on September 11, 2008, 08:37:29 PM
Hook, line, sinker..  :P
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Shuckins on September 11, 2008, 09:15:34 PM
...it's amazing what can be caught with a bare hook...
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Hangtime on September 11, 2008, 09:48:14 PM
ow. I owe Holden all my perk points.

;)
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Shuckins on September 11, 2008, 09:52:56 PM
 :rofl
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Slamfire on September 11, 2008, 10:24:28 PM
I don't know about the rest of you, but I believe it is vitally important that the next President and Vice President have a post graduate level grasp of paleontology.

I bet Obama cans Biden and re-selects Robert Bakker as his running mate

(http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/authphoto_330/1245_bakker_robert_t.jpg)
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Chalenge on September 12, 2008, 12:07:15 AM
you're saying 98% of liberals believe that dinosaurs lived 4000 years ago?  :rofl

No Im saying 98% of all liberals are stupid enough to believe anything they are told as long as it comes in the form of mindless dribble.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Hangtime on September 12, 2008, 12:11:41 AM
dead cat fight.

(http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/authphoto_330/1245_bakker_robert_t.jpg)

"PHFFFT!, MEOWRRR!!"
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: xxIENAxx on September 12, 2008, 07:52:58 AM
Just check this site up http://www.snopes.com/politics/palin/newsquotes.asp






xxIENAxx
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: SkyRock on September 12, 2008, 08:51:45 AM
No Im saying 98% of all liberals are stupid enough to believe anything they are told as long as it comes in the form of mindless dribble.
Do you believe dinosaurs roamed the earth 4,000 years ago?
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Elfie on September 12, 2008, 08:56:08 AM
Do you believe dinosaurs roamed the earth 4,000 years ago?

What is your fascination with that? And why does it matter to you so much what Christians believe?
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: lazs2 on September 12, 2008, 10:12:03 AM
I don't know or care who here believes the 4,000 year bit..  The point is that Palin NEVER said it.  It was made up on some lefty blog.

The truth is that the dems and osamabama are desperate..   they are getting their butts kicked by a..a...a... woman!

The osamabama team is all now saying that they are gonna get tough and attack at every chance..  look even more petty and mean spirited..  it will appeal to the folks that are already gonna vote for him tho.. they are pretty petty and mean in any case.   The clever satire crowd will really ramp it up.

They are hoping that if they.. or better yet their minions.. throw enough mud around.. some of it will stick in the voters minds but so far...

Telling people she believes in god and that she will drill and that she likes guns and that she has a big family or even shops at walmart...

Well.. that stuff is not gonna do the osamabinbiden team much good except with the same old cosmo elite aholes that we all hate anyway.

lazs
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: CHECKERS on September 12, 2008, 11:28:39 AM
Actually, I think Damon raises some valid points based on the facts available.
:rofl :rofl :rofl

   Ya, Well then their is this......

     A  PERSPECTIVE OF OBAMA

 

HIS FATHER WAS A BLACK AFRICAN-ARAB-MUSLIM FROM KENYA . WE HAVE SEEN PICTURES OF HIS AFRICAN FAMILY.

HIS MOTHER WAS A WHITE AMERICAN ATHEIST FROM KANSAS .
WHERE ARE THE PICTURES OF HIS AMERICAN FAMILY?

HIS FATHER DESERTED HIS MOTHER WHEN HE WAS ONLY TWO YEARS OLD AND WENT BACK TO AFRICA BY WAY OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY.   HOW?   WAS HIS FATHER WEALTHY?

HIS MOTHER MARRIED AN INDONES IAN MUSLIM AND THEN MOVED
TO JAKARTA WHERE HE WAS ENROLLED IN A MUSLIM SCHOOL 

WHEN HE REACHED HIGH SCHOOL AGE HIS MOTHER SENT HIM TO HAWAII TO BE WITH HIS WHITE GRANDPARENTS AND HE WAS PUT INTO AN EXPENSIVE PRIVATE SCHOOL.  HE LATER WENT TO HARVARD UNIVERSITY.   HOW?   WERE HIS GRANDPARENTS WEALTHY?

HE LIVES IN A $1.4 MILLION HOUSE OBTAINED THROUGH A DEAL WITH A WEALTHY FUND-RAISER.   HOW?

HE 'WORKED' AS A CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST IN CHICAGO . HE HAS NEVER HELD A PRODUCTIVE JOB OR RECEIVED A PAY CHECK THAT WAS NOT GOVERNMENT-FUNDED AND/OR TAXPAYER SUPPORTED. THE PRESIDENCY IS NOT A CIVIL RIGHTS POSITION, NOR IS IT SUBJECT TO AFFIRMATIVE ACTION SET ASIDES; ON-THE-JOB TRAINING WON'T CUT IT.

HE ENTERED POLITICS AT THE STATE LEVE L AND THEN THE NATIONAL LEVEL WHERE HE HAS MINIMAL EXPERIENCE.

HE IS PROUD OF HIS 'AFRICAN HERITAGE'  (A FATHER WHO GOT A WHITE GIRL PREGNANT AND DESERTED HER).

WHERE IS THE PRIDE IN HIS 'WHITE HERITAGE'? (A MOTHER WHO FLAUNTED CONVENTION AND DID NOT BELIEVE IN GOD).

SOME MIGHT THINK THERE WAS NOT MUCH TO BE PROUD OF EITHER WAY.

HE BELONGS, AND HAS BELONGED FOR OVER 20 YEARS, TO AN 'AFRO-CENTRIC' CHURCH IN CHICAGO THAT HATES WHITES, HATES JEWS, AND BLAMES AMERICA FOR ALL THE WORLD'S PERCEIVED FAULTS. (INCLUDING CREATING THE AIDS VIRUS IN ORDER TO INFLICT IT ON AFRICANS).

HE REPEATEDLY WHITEWASHES THE PASTOR, HIS CHURCH AND THE MEMBERS WHO CHEERED AFTER HEARING VITRIOLIC TIRADES AGAINST AMERICA.  HE COULD NOT CONFRONT HIS PASTOR BUT HE WANTS US TO BELIEVE HE CAN CONFRONT NORTH KOREA AND IRAN ?

DURING HIS VERY BRIEF TIME IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE HE HAS MANAGED TO AMASS THE NUMBER ONE .......ULTRA LIBERAL......VOTING RECORD OUT OF THE ONE HUNDRED MEMBERS.

HE HAS VOTED CONSISTENTLY FOR BIGGER GOVERNMENT AND HIGHER TAXES.  HE HAS VOTED FOR BIG ENTITLEMENTS AND LEGISLATION THAT WOULD SEVERELY CURTAIL AMERICA'S ABILITY TO FIGHT TERRORISM AND TO PROTECT OUR BORDERS AND OUR NATIONAL INTERESTS AROUND THE WORLD.

BUT, HE IS A GOOD ORATOR.  ISN'T THAT A COMFORT?

YEAH, I THINK I SEE HOW WELL HE COULD UNITE THE COUNTRY.

I THINK THE TRUTH IS THAT HE HOPES NO ONE WILL PUT THE PIECES TOGETHER!

****
ANALYSIS:

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN,

LET ME INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR NEW CHIEF PILOT.

HE HAS NEVER FLOWN AN AIRPLANE, IN FACT HE HAS NEVE R EVEN SAT IN THE COCKPIT, BUT HE SAYS HE HAS RIDDEN ON PLANES BEFORE.

HE KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT RADAR, OR HOW TO START THE ENGINES, OR HOW TO STOP THEM, OR ANYTHING ABOUT ALL THESE GADGETS, BUT WE ARE SURE HE WILL GUIDE US SAFELY THROUGH THE STORMS WE MAY ENCOUNTER ON THIS FLIGHT BECAUSE HE TOLD US HE COULD DO IT.  (And.. He is a great speaker!)

*****
CONCLUSIONS:

WHAT ARE WE THINKING?

THINK LONG AND HARD BEFORE YOU VOTE, ESPECIALLY FOR THE DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE!

What a great slogan:

'My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it.' (B. Obama) 

  CHECKERS

   
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Dowding on September 12, 2008, 12:10:01 PM
shreck me, you are so, so clever. You made up all that on your own?

I doubt the capitalization is your own idea, either. And BTW, Osama holds no sway with me.
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: JAGED on September 12, 2008, 12:30:07 PM
(http://www.hyscience.com/BFH_Obama_creamofnuttin.gif)
Title: Re: Yep, Panic has set in amongst the Dems
Post by: Elfie on September 12, 2008, 12:31:57 PM
(http://www.hyscience.com/BFH_Obama_creamofnuttin.gif)

That picture is funny.  :lol