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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on September 11, 2008, 11:13:42 AM
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Yep, all that "War on Terror" stuff is all made up, just to get someone elected. Pity this nation if we get a liberal in office.
• December 2001, Richard Reid: British citizen attempted to ignite shoe bomb on flight from Paris to Miami.
• May 2002, Jose Padilla: American citizen accused of seeking radioactive-laced "dirty bomb" to use in an attack against Amrica. Padilla was convicted of conspiracy in August, 2007.
• September 2002, Lackawanna Six: American citizens of Yemeni origin convicted of supporting Al Qaeda after attending jihadist camp in Pakistan. Five of six were from Lackawanna, N.Y.
• Click to view photos of suspected terrorists and attack sites.
• May 2003, Iyman Faris: American citizen charged with plotting to use blowtorches to collapse the Brooklyn Bridge.
• June 2003, Virginia Jihad Network: Eleven men from Alexandria, Va., trained for jihad against American soldiers, convicted of violating the Neutrality Act, conspiracy.
• August 2004, Dhiren Barot: Indian-born leader of terror cell plotted bombings on financial centers (see additional images).
• August 2004, James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj: Sought to plant bomb at New York's Penn Station during the Republican National Convention.
• August 2004, Yassin Aref and Mohammed Hossain: Plotted to assassinate a Pakistani diplomat on American soil.
• June 2005, Father and son Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat: Son convicted of attending terrorist training camp in Pakistan; father convicted of customs violation.
• August 2005, Kevin James, Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson and Hammad Riaz Samana: Los Angeles homegrown terrorists who plotted to attack National Guard, LAX, two synagogues and Israeli consulate.
• December 2005, Michael Reynolds: Plotted to blow up natural gas refinery in Wyoming, the Transcontinental Pipeline, and a refinery in New Jersey. Reynolds was sentenced to 30 years in prison.
• February 2006, Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi and Zand Wassim Mazloum: Accused of providing material support to terrorists, making bombs for use in Iraq.
• April 2006, Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee: Cased and videotaped the Capitol and World Bank for a terrorist organization.
• June 2006, Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Stanley Grant Phanor, Naudimar Herrera, Burson Augustin, Lyglenson Lemorin, and Rotschild Augstine: Accused of plotting to blow up the Sears Tower.
• July 2006, Assem Hammoud: Accused of plotting to bomb New York City train tunnels.
• August 2006, Liquid Explosives Plot: Thwarted plot to explode ten airliners over the United States.
• March 2007, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed: Mastermind of Sept. 11 and author of numerous plots confessed in court in March 2007 to planning to destroy skyscrapers in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. Mohammedalso plotted to assassinate Pope John Paul II and former President Bill Clinton.
• May 2007, Fort Dix Plot: Six men accused of plotting to attack Fort Dix Army base in New Jersey. The plan included attacking and killing soldiers using assault rifles and grenades.
• June 2007, JFK Plot: Four men are accused of plotting to blow up fuel arteries that run through residential neighborhoods at JFK Airport in New York.
• September 2007, German authorities disrupt a terrorist cell that was planning attacks on military installations and facilities used by Americans in Germany. The Germans arrested three suspected members of the Islamic Jihad Union, a group that has links to Al Qaeda and supports Al Qaeda's global jihadist agenda.
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How many of those terrorist plots were foiled by sifting through all the world's emails, or tapping cellphone networks?
Versus how many were uncovered by good field work, and agent contacts?
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How many of those terrorist plots were foiled by sifting through all the world's emails, or tapping cellphone networks?
Versus how many were uncovered by good field work, and agent contacts?
An honest question...how many of them were commited by Iraqi's?
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...and how many by Saudi's and Paki's?
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How many of those terrorist plots were foiled by sifting through all the world's emails, or tapping cellphone networks?
Versus how many were uncovered by good field work, and agent contacts?
I doubt that we will know that for years (if ever). Kinda bad policy to let the bad guys know how you are catching them don't ya think?
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Yep, all that "War on Terror" stuff is all made up, just to get someone elected. Pity this nation if we get a liberal in office.
• December 2001, Richard Reid: British citizen attempted to ignite shoe bomb on flight from Paris to Miami.
• May 2002, Jose Padilla: American citizen accused of seeking radioactive-laced "dirty bomb" to use in an attack against Amrica. Padilla was convicted of conspiracy in August, 2007.
• September 2002, Lackawanna Six: American citizens of Yemeni origin convicted of supporting Al Qaeda after attending jihadist camp in Pakistan. Five of six were from Lackawanna, N.Y.
• Click to view photos of suspected terrorists and attack sites.
• May 2003, Iyman Faris: American citizen charged with plotting to use blowtorches to collapse the Brooklyn Bridge.
• June 2003, Virginia Jihad Network: Eleven men from Alexandria, Va., trained for jihad against American soldiers, convicted of violating the Neutrality Act, conspiracy.
• August 2004, Dhiren Barot: Indian-born leader of terror cell plotted bombings on financial centers (see additional images).
• August 2004, James Elshafay and Shahawar Matin Siraj: Sought to plant bomb at New York's Penn Station during the Republican National Convention.
• August 2004, Yassin Aref and Mohammed Hossain: Plotted to assassinate a Pakistani diplomat on American soil.
• June 2005, Father and son Umer Hayat and Hamid Hayat: Son convicted of attending terrorist training camp in Pakistan; father convicted of customs violation.
• August 2005, Kevin James, Levar Haley Washington, Gregory Vernon Patterson and Hammad Riaz Samana: Los Angeles homegrown terrorists who plotted to attack National Guard, LAX, two synagogues and Israeli consulate.
• December 2005, Michael Reynolds: Plotted to blow up natural gas refinery in Wyoming, the Transcontinental Pipeline, and a refinery in New Jersey. Reynolds was sentenced to 30 years in prison.
• February 2006, Mohammad Zaki Amawi, Marwan Othman El-Hindi and Zand Wassim Mazloum: Accused of providing material support to terrorists, making bombs for use in Iraq.
• April 2006, Syed Haris Ahmed and Ehsanul Islam Sadequee: Cased and videotaped the Capitol and World Bank for a terrorist organization.
• June 2006, Narseal Batiste, Patrick Abraham, Stanley Grant Phanor, Naudimar Herrera, Burson Augustin, Lyglenson Lemorin, and Rotschild Augstine: Accused of plotting to blow up the Sears Tower.
• July 2006, Assem Hammoud: Accused of plotting to bomb New York City train tunnels.
• August 2006, Liquid Explosives Plot: Thwarted plot to explode ten airliners over the United States.
• March 2007, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed: Mastermind of Sept. 11 and author of numerous plots confessed in court in March 2007 to planning to destroy skyscrapers in New York, Los Angeles and Chicago. Mohammedalso plotted to assassinate Pope John Paul II and former President Bill Clinton.
• May 2007, Fort Dix Plot: Six men accused of plotting to attack Fort Dix Army base in New Jersey. The plan included attacking and killing soldiers using assault rifles and grenades.
• June 2007, JFK Plot: Four men are accused of plotting to blow up fuel arteries that run through residential neighborhoods at JFK Airport in New York.
• September 2007, German authorities disrupt a terrorist cell that was planning attacks on military installations and facilities used by Americans in Germany. The Germans arrested three suspected members of the Islamic Jihad Union, a group that has links to Al Qaeda and supports Al Qaeda's global jihadist agenda.
Yeah thank goodness that those darn terrorists couldn't drive a truck full of nukes through the mexican boarder.
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Yeah thank goodness that those darn terrorists couldn't drive a truck full of nukes through the mexican boarder.
The open border is an issue many of us think should have been resolved already. Unfortunately that isn't the case.
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How many of those terrorist plots were foiled by sifting through all the world's emails, or tapping cellphone networks?
What are you trying to hide?
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How many terrorists have been killed or thwarted and information not released to the public?
im sure it has happened.
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I guarantee it :aok
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How many of those terrorist plots were foiled by sifting through all the world's emails, or tapping cellphone networks?
Versus how many were uncovered by good field work, and agent contacts?
A better question would be....how many of them will attributed to the Bush administration?
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How many of those terrorist plots were foiled by sifting through all the world's emails, or tapping cellphone networks?
Versus how many were uncovered by good field work, and agent contacts?
Well here's another good question:
Are you doing any thing regarding terrorism that the CIA should actually be worried about??
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Half of those things you list are charges, not convictions.
Remember, the oath of office is to defend and protect the constitution, not the American people, or the government, or anything else.
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Well here's another good question:
Are you doing any thing regarding terrorism that the CIA should actually be worried about??
Red herring.
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Well here's another good question:
Are you doing any thing regarding terrorism that the CIA should actually be worried about??
I don't like the "if you don't have anything to hide, why care?" attitude.
It's the same attitude used to justify those out-of-uniform unwarranted police break ins in the middle of the night...then the guy shoots a cop thinking he was a criminal and goes to jail for it.
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I don't like the "if you don't have anything to hide, why care?" attitude.
It's the same attitude used to justify those out-of-uniform unwarranted police break ins in the middle of the night...then the guy shoots a cop thinking he was a criminal and goes to jail for it.
Right on mensa. The attitude you speak of has been explained to me in detail by those who used to live in the Soviet Union.
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Half of those things you list are charges, not convictions.
Remember, the oath of office is to defend and protect the constitution, not the American people, or the government, or anything else.
So they allegedly did those things, until they get convicted in court.
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How many of those terrorist plots were foiled by sifting through all the world's emails, or tapping cellphone networks?
Versus how many were uncovered by good field work, and agent contacts?
Another drive by whine?
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So they allegedly did those things, until they get convicted in court.
How do you know they will be convicted? In this country all men are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, thank you very much.
It's scary to me how much some people want to bypass the law, due-process, and the constitution, or at the very least water them down, when it is precisely these things that define our western way of life. They are the things that are worth dying for.
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I don't like the "if you don't have anything to hide, why care?" attitude.
It's the same attitude used to justify those out-of-uniform unwarranted police break ins in the middle of the night...then the guy shoots a cop thinking he was a criminal and goes to jail for it.
must not be the same story i heard about
in the story i heard, the cops broke down the door of the wrong house,, and the homeowner shot one of them dead.
the courts decided he was not in the wrong, and he is free to this day,
atleast thats he way i heard the story
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How do you know they will be convicted? In this country all men are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, thank you very much.
It's scary to me how much some people want to bypass the law, due-process, and the constitution, or at the very least water them down, when it is precisely these things that define our western way of life. They are the things that are worth dying for.
It's alleged until they get convicted. That is fact. If they get found innocent then it is also no longer alleged. Then well...they get to go free, but until then, their crimes are alleged. How you came to the conclusion that I want to bypass due process is beyond me. Unless.....you only saw what you wanted to see.
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Sorry, your statement seemed to suggest that it was a sure thing that they'd be convicted, as otherwise there's no justification to thump our chests over having apprehended them.
If I got that wrong then my bad.
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Sorry, your statement seemed to suggest that it was a sure thing that they'd be convicted, as otherwise there's no justification to thump our chests over having apprehended them.
If I got that wrong then my bad.
No worries. :aok
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there are thousands you dont know about almost one every day. ;)
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Half of those things you list are charges, not convictions.
Remember, the oath of office is to defend and protect the constitution, not the American people, or the government, or anything else.
Actually, the entire oath is as follows:
Each president recites the following oath, in accordance with Article II, Section I of the U.S. Constitution:
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
I point this out to underscore that the President's duties go beyond simply protecting the Constitution. They also include protecting US citizens from threats both foreign and domestic, negotiating treaties, commanding the armed forces of the United States, and inforcing the law of the land, to name but a few. So your statement here is not correct.
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Actually, the entire oath is as follows:
I point this out to underscore that the President's duties go beyond simply protecting the Constitution. They also include protecting US citizens from threats both foreign and domestic, negotiating treaties, commanding the armed forces of the United States, and inforcing the law of the land, to name but a few. So your statement here is not correct.
First, you're picking out only one oath of office. Second, "faithfully executing the office of president" is fairly open ended, and should be expected by definition. I fail to see how your interpretation of it invalidates my claim that defending the constitution is primary over all the other things you list. It's the only specific duty in the oath, after all.
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there are thousands you dont know about almost one every day. ;)
And how do you know?
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How many of those terrorist plots were foiled by sifting through all the world's emails, or tapping cellphone networks?
Versus how many were uncovered by good field work, and agent contacts?
What's the difference?
Surveillance is a key component to good investigative field work.
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And how do you know?
He works for the Mossad.
:noid
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An honest question...how many of them were commited by Iraqi's?
oh no you didn't!
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must not be the same story i heard about
in the story i heard, the cops broke down the door of the wrong house,, and the homeowner shot one of them dead.
the courts decided he was not in the wrong, and he is free to this day,
atleast thats he way i heard the story
Must be.
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must not be the same story i heard about
in the story i heard, the cops broke down the door of the wrong house,, and the homeowner shot one of them dead.
the courts decided he was not in the wrong, and he is free to this day,
atleast thats he way i heard the story
There are many cases of police and innocent civilians dying in these types of raids, you and Mensa are probably both correct, just different cases.
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The open border is an issue many of us think should have been resolved already. Unfortunately that isn't the case.
AMEN!!
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on closing the borders .. thinkin we could hire China to build a 'Great Wall' eh?
-grin-
-GE
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on closing the borders .. thinkin we could hire China to build a 'Great Wall' eh?
-grin-
-GE
LOL Good idea!