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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Steve on September 13, 2008, 09:37:18 PM
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I've read some nasty insults about me lately, how I can't fight... etc.
SCCA says:
Sorry, the only thing that impresses me about Steve is his mastery of the BNZ pick. Other than that, he has only one other skill, and that's to run. He couldn't pull a reversal for a million bucks.
Storch says:
he's hopelessly inept unless he holds all the cards.
Lots of nasty things like that.
So I decided to spend a night in a plane lots of people fly. I flew the spit 8. I haven't flown it much , totalling around 40 kills in it before these flights, all these flights were the night before last.
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Like anyone, I'd like to get better... but I can fight a little and I have fun.
He couldn't pull a reversal for a million bucks.
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Who cares what they say? Question is, are you having fun? The only person you have to prove anything to is yourself.
P.S. stay out of the spitfires........they're British you know. :lol
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Who cares what they say? Question is, are you having fun? The only person you have to prove anything to is yourself.
P.S. stay out of the spitfires........they're British you know. :lol
I am having a good time :)
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I hope you took a long shower to clean yourself off after flying a spit.
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Thanks for the spyware!
Spits are like cheating after you fly a pony so long.
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Not another someone pity me, i'm in need of some attn. post :(
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Not another someone pity me, i'm in need of some attn. post :(
:lol
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Not another someone pity me, i'm in need of some attn. post :(
Nope, I'm good. ty
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Wow. I oblage myself of suggestions to arrange a couple impromptu 1vs1, dissimilar planes, my heavy fuel, no HOs, typing durng the fight, and find the films posted on the boards. Classy, very classy. You forgot to post the one where I had to chase you 15 miles to within sight of your base, for the fight to turn your way after it became 2vs1. And the 3vs1 sw of your field later on, but I guess they don't go toward the point, do they?
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I flow same area with Steve few days ago. Donīt know if he was runner or not, but i was very impressed when he shot 2 enemys from my six in one sincle dive! Also he was telling all the time what happens around us when we were outnumbered, so it was easier to me fight. Althought i sucked again and was shot down :D
I thought "wau, this guy is good".
:salute Steve
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No matter what pepole say i have watched and heard from other good sticks that Steve has great S/A,and that seems to make a great stick.
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Wow. I oblage myself of suggestions to arrange a couple impromptu 1vs1, dissimilar planes, my heavy fuel, no HOs, typing durng the fight, and find the films posted on the boards. Classy, very classy. You forgot to post the one where I had to chase you 15 miles to within sight of your base, for the fight to turn your way after it became 2vs1. And the 3vs1 sw of your field later on, but I guess they don't go toward the point, do they?
Murdr, I am not sure why you are offended. It wasn't about you getting shot down, it was about fighting. I think you are a fine stick and a good guy. . I never claimed anywhere, in the arena or on the boards that this somehow shows I'm a better stick than you. Just some fights I got in to. As for your recollection of the other events you mentioned, oddly I remember the circumstances differently. I think you are being oversensitive and I'm not going to turn this into a purse fight with you.
If you feel offended, start a thread where, instead of just posting some films about some fun fights you got in, tell the world how you dominate me and I'll back you up. I'll post in the thread that you stomp me anytime you get near me. Oh heck, let's do it here: Murdr owns me, any time I've ever killed him is merely because he allowed me to win. There, all better?
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I flow same area with Steve few days ago. Donīt know if he was runner or not, but i was very impressed when he shot 2 enemys from my six in one sincle dive! Also he was telling all the time what happens around us when we were outnumbered, so it was easier to me fight. Althought i sucked again and was shot down :D
I thought "wau, this guy is good".
:salute Steve
Whitey! These films are from that night... you are a star in them I'm sure. :salute
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Do not do the casual/friendly "Im here, where are you at? Is that you? Let's move away from the horde." thing with me and then turn around and clip and post films to fit your adgenta. I consider that exactly the same as "lets DA for fun" and then posting it on the boards.
As for your recollection of the other events you mentioned, oddly I remember the circumstances differently.
After watching you whine 5 minutes about a HO a little bit ago, when I had reversed, was nose on, and inside your turn circle looking at your canopy, why am I not surprised?
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So I decided to spend a night in a plane lots of people fly. I flew the spit 8
you were so respectable to me....before doing this..... :aok
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Well I am sticking up for Steve. No matter what you guys say. He is a squaddie of course but I follow him around all the time and see him enter the furball at 8k in a p51. So unless you fly lower than that when you fight then shut it cause I KNOW all of you whiners fly in at 10 or 15k and BZ...run...pick all day long and in dweeb rides like spit16's , typh and L gays. And then you have the nerve to whine about a p51 on the deck running. OMG!!! You all run like little girls and then turn around and squeak about it. It's pathetic.
I have heard in the last few days many mean things about Steve on range channel from all three countries. Why can't any of you just Salute when you get out flown instead of whining like girls.
And Murdr.....what the heck....You have a trainer tag and you post like that. I am dissapointed that you would say that. Poor show.
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And Murdr.....what the heck....You have a trainer tag and you post like that. I am dissapointed that you would say that. Poor show.
I wait with baited breath for you to point out my inapproriate comment?
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I wait with baited breath for you to point out my inapproriate comment?
Well I would expect a condiscending and negative post from the likes of other players but not you. I wouldnt call it inappropiate but more of a negative post. I just wouldnt have expected that from you.
I guess I look up to the trainers and so do others and to have one post like that about a style of flying is surprising. That is the thing. So if Stever "runs" for 15 miles then engages or whatever then so what.
Am I wrong in assuming you teach people how to get away or use wingman tactics. But if Steve does it then he is a lowly running dweeb?
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Ask your squadie that I spoke on the phone with in the last 24 hours. I was talking highly of Steve actually. However seeing those two films gave me a figurative sharp pain in my back.
You tell me. You followed a tempest around a little earlier while he was killing other bishops. The temepest did eventually reverse and engage you when there were no other fighters around. Was he a running dweeb ;) ?
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Whitey! These films are from that night... you are a star in them I'm sure. :salute
Yea, actually i was in first film. That was situation i talked about but i had totally forgotten u wiped out three enemys from my six when i struggled with my 109:aok
Thatīs what i do best, being a rabbit so others can take kills behind my a** :lol
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I hope you took a long shower to clean yourself off after flying a spit.
Yup, anything else and I might be tempted to view the films. :P
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This entire thread is nauseating who cares what or howsome one fights. Pm each other & leave it off the BBS.
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Do not do the casual/friendly "Im here, where are you at? Is that you? Let's move away from the horde." thing with me and then turn around and clip and post films to fit your adgenta. I consider that exactly the same as "lets DA for fun" and then posting it on the boards.After watching you whine 5 minutes about a HO a little bit ago, when I had reversed, was nose on, and inside your turn circle looking at your canopy, why am I not surprised?
Murdr, you are missing the point. It's not about killing you. In fact, you killed me a couple of times that night if I remember. Would you like me to post those films as well? Some people have been running their mouths, I had some fun fights and posted film... that's it. You happen to be in the film. Again, I'm not claiming to be a better pile-it than you simply because I shot you down a time or two. I'm 100% confident you have shot me down plenty of times over the years we've known each other.
If I had told you I was going to post some films would you have declined to fight me? Is that what you are saying?
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This entire thread is nauseating who cares what or howsome one fights. Pm each other & leave it off the BBS.
Public purse fight are more fun to watch.
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I've posted many furballing films, I've posted many one on one clips. However, if I go so far as arranging fights with someone privately, and for some reason wanted to post it, I would mention it to them. I consider it common courtesy, because it wasn't a random chance encounter, and they may not have been in the same mindset if it were "on the record". In fact they may have flown completely differently if they knew it would be thrown on the boards, as opposed to two friends bs'ing on private. Agree or disagree, understandable or bs, that's my take on it.
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I've posted many furballing films, I've posted many one on one clips. However, if I go so far as arranging fights with someone privately, and for some reason wanted to post it, I would mention it to them. I consider it common courtesy, because it wasn't a random chance encounter, and they may not have been in the same mindset if it were "on the record". In fact they may have flown completely differently if they knew it would be thrown on the boards, as opposed to two friends bs'ing on private. Agree or disagree, understandable or bs, that's my take on it.
Posting the films was an afterthought. As for mindset.. I don't follow. Would you have fought differently? As a long time friend, I respect your input but I disagree. If you like, I'll take the films down. I think you've misjudged my intentions. It's not a Steve vs Murdr thread.
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i have a film :cool:
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i have a film :cool:
Post it if you like. You beat me like what... 4 out of 5? 5 out of 5? I learned a couple of things so it it was very worth while... I'd do it again in a heartbeat. :aok
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I don't want to be mean, Steve, but you were fighting a 38 against a Spit8. It might have been somthing special, F4U v. Spit8 or spit v. spit, but I don't see anyting were that was much of a fight.
I had a realy good fight with SunFan the other day, if he remebers. He beat me 2 or 3 to 1, but I felt as if I were fighting myself in many ways. we fought in the same plane, and of course, in the DA.
I could post those films if you would like SunFan?
<S>
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I don't want to be mean, Steve, but you were fighting a 38 against a Spit8. It might have been somthing special, F4U v. Spit8 or spit v. spit, but I don't see anyting were that was much of a fight.
I had a realy good fight with SunFan the other day, if he remebers. He beat me 2 or 3 to 1, but I felt as if I were fighting myself in many ways. we fought in the same plane, and of course, in the DA.
I could post those films if you would like SunFan?
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Did you watch the films? There were other fights in there.
As for Murdr, he is a ringer in his 38. If you beat him spit 8 vs his 38 under the same circumstances, I'd sure like to see it.
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I've read some nasty insults about me lately, how I can't fight... etc.
SCCA says:
Storch says:
Lots of nasty things like that.
So I decided to spend a night in a plane lots of people fly. I flew the spit 8. I haven't flown it much , totalling around 40 kills in it before these flights, all these flights were the night before last.
http://www.mediafire.com/?egxnieizcnz (http://www.mediafire.com/?egxnieizcnz)
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http://www.mediafire.com/?gmdixia4nni (http://www.mediafire.com/?gmdixia4nni)
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http://www.mediafire.com/?mghaicjzw1o (http://www.mediafire.com/?mghaicjzw1o)
Like anyone, I'd like to get better... but I can fight a little and I have fun.
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d/l'd the first film......don't think i need to d/l anymore.
your gunnery was excellent. as was your picking skill.
not trying to be a love muffins, but i expected to see a couple good dogfighting films. instead i see you cherrypick murdr as he;s about to finish one of your countrymen, then you roll over into irish red on the six of another, and pick him. not really that impressive if ya ask me. but then who am i? i'm just a guy that sucks, and is trying to get better. :rolleyes:
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d/l'd the first film......don't think i need to d/l anymore.
your gunnery was excellent. as was your picking skill.
not trying to be a love muffins, but i expected to see a couple good dogfighting films. instead i see you cherrypick murdr as he;s about to finish one of your countrymen, then you roll over into irish red on the six of another, and pick him. not really that impressive if ya ask me. but then who am i? i'm just a guy that sucks, and is trying to get better. :rolleyes:
The first film was a 2 us, vs 3 them. If that's picking, you got me! Other films are different. Thanks for gathering a fraction of the info available then posting an opinion. Watch the first five minutes of a movie then know all about it huh? :lol :aok
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Well I would expect a condiscending and negative post from the likes of other players but not you. I wouldnt call it inappropiate but more of a negative post. I just wouldnt have expected that from you.
I guess I look up to the trainers and so do others and to have one post like that about a style of flying is surprising. That is the thing. So if Stever "runs" for 15 miles then engages or whatever then so what.
Am I wrong in assuming you teach people how to get away or use wingman tactics. But if Steve does it then he is a lowly running dweeb?
so, what you're saying, is that if you're flying in r/l with your cfi, and you make a mistake that could be fatal if he weren't there, he should stay nice?
in the first film, all steve did was pick. all he showed was good gunnery. he didn't show anything exemplerey in his maneuvers.
he asked for honest, he;s getting honest.
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so, what you're saying, is that if you're flying in r/l with your cfi, and you make a mistake that could be fatal if he weren't there, he should stay nice?
in the first film, all steve did was pick. all he showed was good gunnery. he didn't show anything exemplerey in his maneuvers.
he asked for honest, he;s getting honest.
Like I said, if killing guys while out numbered 2 to 3 is picking, you have me nailed. WTG :aok
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The first film was a 2 us, vs 3 them. If that's picking, you got me! Other films are different. Thanks for gathering a fraction of the info available then posting an opinion. Watch the first five minutes of a movie then know all about it huh? :lol :aok
dude,......i'm sorry, i really am....i know you're a better pilot than i am. but with that first film, all i saw was a spit8 haulin along at over 300mph, line up on a 38 that was in a hard turn about to finish off another, and you whacked him. you followed up with another pick of the fm2 whilst he was busy on another. where's the rest of that film? did you actually fight in that one?
like i said, i was hoping for some good dogfighting, and maybe be able to learn something from watching you.
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The first film was a 2 us, vs 3 them. If that's picking, you got me! Other films are different. Thanks for gathering a fraction of the info available then posting an opinion. Watch the first five minutes of a movie then know all about it huh? :lol :aok
first film:
ROOKS:steve(spit8), whitey33(109), spacey(spit), iilgaf(hurri)
KNIGHTS:murdr(p38), irishred(fm2), baumer(p40)
you guys hels all the cards. i know what murdr can do in that 38, but all of your guys aircraft outclassed them.
oooo....and where's this 2 vs 3 you mention? looks like besides having them outclassed, you had em outnumbered too.
the more you type here the more respect i'm losin for ya.
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Like I said, if killing guys while out numbered 2 to 3 is picking, you have me nailed. WTG :aok
was 3 vs 4 your favor. in numbers AND aircraft.
are the rest of the films more exciting, or just more picking?
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dude,......i'm sorry, i really am....i know you're a better pilot than i am. but with that first film, all i saw was a spit8 haulin along at over 300mph, line up on a 38 that was in a hard turn about to finish off another, and you whacked him. you followed up with another pick of the fm2 whilst he was busy on another. where's the rest of that film? did you actually fight in that one?
like i said, i was hoping for some good dogfighting, and maybe be able to learn something from watching you.
Well again, you watched a fraction of the films and formed an opinion.. silly. In the first film, you can make an argument I picked Murdr.. I would call it a pick. Should I have let him kill whitey so I would have to fight them 1 vs 3? The other two engaged about the same time I did, there was only two of us... sorry that's not picking. The other films are different.. oh wait I already said that. As for learning something... I'm not expert.. I just said I could fight a little.
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Not another someone pity me, i'm in need of some attn. post :(
which tool are you?(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/Skyrock67/tools.jpg)
I'm guessing this one:(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/Skyrock67/tool.jpg) :aok
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was 3 vs 4 your favor. in numbers AND aircraft.
are the rest of the films more exciting, or just more picking?
You are either being dishonest or do not know what picking is. You are also lying about the circumstances of the fight. The other two rooks never came close to the fight. The closest the other rooks came were 2.4 of the fight and that was at the end of the fight, after the p40 died. You're a troll, and a dishonest one.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/AZC4guy/fight.jpg)
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You are either being dishonest or do not know what picking is. You are also lying about the circumstances of the fight. The other two rooks never came close to the fight. The closest the other rooks came were 2.4 of the fight and that was at the end of the fight, after the p40 died. You're a troll, and a dishonest one.
(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d191/AZC4guy/fight.jpg)
dude, i don't lie. i took those names right out of the film viewer.
spacey and iilgaf were comming in behind you, as you came in for the pick on murdr.
and no, i'm not a troll. but then again, i don't feel the need to post my kills here either. i don't need to see how much of the ah community i can get pity from.
maybe when i come back home tonight, i'll look at the others.
ooo....and dishonest? post the rest of the film, to show your dive for speed. no one else in that fight was going tht fast.
picking is when you run in and shoot down a guy that's in a fight with another plane. tht's what you did. twice.
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Would you have fought differently?
Absolutely Steve. For one I would be using everthing at my disposal, whether that means setting myslef up with the most advantagous fuel load, and using my energy to determine when, where, and what circumstances I will fight as I see fit. I would not have my hands off the stick commenting about the last merge, or reversing toward someone on my 6 when I am under no guns pressure to do so. I would think such things would be obvious that I'm not out for blood or to prove anything. I do fly very different depending on my goal at the time, or even in absence of a goal. And I'd think by this time you would understand that at a certian level, all things being equal, the fight can tip on the smallest thing, whether it is a bad night, attitude, plane matchup, or whatever.
If you like, I'll take the films down.
I don't care one way or the other since it's irrelevent at this point.
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Why does everything posted on these forums turn into a flame war...? :huh
Steve, you have a Pony fighting style. Nothing wrong with that, in fact, it's a great style to have; It will keep you alive. Now while no one likes to be shot down by surprise, it is part of what makes the Pony such a great aircraft. A LOT of kills in WWII were when the bad guy didn't know he was there, and the same goes for this game. Situational Awareness and good teammates are really the best defense against a pony driver.
BnZ drivers will complain about TnB drivers, and TnB drivers will complain about BnZ drivers. It's just the way it is, if you don't fly to someone's advantage, they'll be pissed at ya.
First and foremost, it's a game and your $15. Fly how you want, not how others think you should. :salute
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dude, i don't lie. i took those names right out of the film viewer.
ooo....and dishonest? post the rest of the film, to show your dive for speed.
http://www.mediafire.com/?dl6gailf0ba (http://www.mediafire.com/?dl6gailf0ba)
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Why does everything posted on these forums turn into a flame war...? :huh
Steve, you have a Pony fighting style. Nothing wrong with that, in fact, it's a great style to have; It will keep you alive. Now while no one likes to be shot down by surprise, it is part of what makes the Pony such a great aircraft. A LOT of kills in WWII were when the bad guy didn't know he was there, and the same goes for this game. Situational Awareness and good teammates are really the best defense against a pony driver.
BnZ drivers will complain about TnB drivers, and TnB drivers will complain about BnZ drivers. It's just the way it is, if you don't fly to someone's advantage, they'll be pissed at ya.
First and foremost, it's a game and your $15. Fly how you want, not how others think you should. :salute
i wasn't telling him how i think he should fight. but that he should fight to begin with. murdr, irishred, and whitey were fighting. lligaf and spacey were out in the distance, with spacey comming in it appeared, and steve sneaking up to kill pilots that were engaged. that is a pick. in real life, that is the absolute best way to stay alive. this is a cartoon game. accordingly, staying alive doesn't mean much.
judging him by what i've seen posted on the boards here, i kinda respected the dude. maybe if i d/l the other films tonight when i go back home(i'm on the shop puter right now) they'll show some actual fighting.
like i've also said in other threads and posts....i don't give a dam how anyone flys, or fights, or picks, or ho;s or whatever. i realize that if i get picked, i put myself in the position to get picked....no one else. same with getting ho'd(although there's been times that i thought i had them avoided, only for the guy to still manage to land serious hits on me.)
hell, last night in mw, the guys defending one of their airbases were doing nothing but ramming and ho'ing. at times it cost them as much as it cost us. i got rmmed twice, but only got the white message, and took no damage. he was trying to ho me. he went on to try n ho two other countrymen. the sides were pretty even in that engagement, and eny wasn't hurting us or them, so there was no real reason.
anyway, i wans't saying what i had originally said to be a dk. i was simply saying what i took from the film. and STEVE, all through this, i've said that i think you'r a MUCH better pilot than i am, and was hoping to learn something from your films. i don't see how that was trolling(but then i don't know the definition of a troll either).
i watch films and learn from them. everyones.
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Steve, just make another pass at em, and take a screenshot of their whines and then send those to em.
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anyway, i wans't saying what i had originally said to be a dk. i was simply saying what i took from the film. and STEVE, all through this, i've said that i think you'r a MUCH better pilot than i am, and was hoping to learn something from your films. i don't see how that was trolling(but then i don't know the definition of a troll either).
i watch films and learn from them. everyones.
Dude, forget about the better pilot thing.. that's not a point I'm trying to make. The other films show me with a 109 on my 6 that I reverse and kill, and I kill murdr a couple of times 1v1. The first 1v1 Murdr was heavy with fuel. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone in the films. In fact, were I in a 38 when I fought Murdr, he would have waxed me. I told Murdr at the time, and I'll say it now, the plane had a lot to do with it. The spit8 is a stellar dogfighter, IMHO.
Someone said I can't reverse a plane for a million bucks( or something like that) some of these films show me shaking a guy off my 6 and killing him.
Someone said I am hopelessly inept unless I hold all the cards. Some of these films show with at least a small disadvantage and I manage a kill or two. I was just trying to show that the callous jerks who made such claims about me are wrong. These are the reasons I posted the films. Again, I'm not claiming to be better than anyone in these films. Murdr took offense, which I regret, because I've known him for years and have always enjoyed his online company. I wasn't thumping my chest for killing him.. I'm sure he's killed me just as often.
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I wait with baited breath for you to point out my inapproriate comment?
this is all im hearing from you :furious :cry :furious :cry :furious :cry :furious :cry
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Dude, forget about the better pilot thing.. that's not a point I'm trying to make. The other films show me with a 109 on my 6 that I reverse and kill, and I kill murdr a couple of times 1v1. The first 1v1 Murdr was heavy with fuel. I'm not saying I'm better than anyone in the films. In fact, were I in a 38 when I fought Murdr, he would have waxed me. I told Murdr at the time, and I'll say it now, the plane had a lot to do with it. The spit8 is a stellar dogfighter, IMHO.
Someone said I can't reverse a plane for a million bucks( or something like that) some of these films show me shaking a guy off my 6 and killing him.
Someone said I am hopelessly inept unless I hold all the cards. Some of these films show with at least a small disadvantage and I manage a kill or two. I was just trying to show that the callous jerks who made such claims about me are wrong. These are the reasons I posted the films. Again, I'm not claiming to be better than anyone in these films. Murdr took offense, which I regret, because I've known him for years and have always enjoyed his online company. I wasn't thumping my chest for killing him.. I'm sure he's killed me just as often.
i realize you're not making that claim. again, i'm saying what i think.......
as for the ""hoplessly inept"" comment......that comment comes from the king of happiness. i STILL can't figure out how he got ot be old if his online personality is like his r/l one. i wouldn't pay his comments any mind. he picked me a few times months ago(it was my own fault as i knew there were higher cons around as i got into a low slow knifefight). i got tired of getting picked, so i guestimated how high i though he's be, grabbed a spit9, and upped from a clear base.
at 19k alt, i came across him with him having a very slight alt advantage. i dodged a ho attempt, and climbed to co-alt in the dodge. after a couple turns, i stalled, and he had my six, so not knowing what else to do, i dove for speed and seperation. he maintained his alt and next i ss is him bragging how the alt monkey blew all his E, and dove away. so he was calling me an alt mone\key for being almost as high as he was :rofl he kept trying to pick me as i tried to get back to his alt, so i gave up, and went looking for a fight somewhere else. found a corsair, and next i know, there;s that damd 109 on my tail again.
o well..........
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By saying you don't think he's fighting, you are, in fact, telling him what you think fighting is and that he should do it to your definition.
In the Main Arena, your not going to find a 1v1, unless you go off into the boonies. I found myself angry about that same fact, but it's something that's going to happen. Just because he's not in a loosing situation when he engages someone and/or clearing someone's six and/or "picking" and/or [insert whatever you want here], doesn't mean he's not fighting.
To be honest, I really wasn't trying to join this conversation, and I really don't care to. I just saw this thread go terribly wrong, and gave my $.02. So I'm out, removed notification of this thread and won't be checking again.
<S> to all of you. I hope you all end this silly and useless argument that isn't going to go anywhere.
See you in the skies! :salute
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i realize you're not making that claim. again, i'm saying what i think.......
as for the ""hoplessly inept"" comment......that comment comes from the king of happiness. i STILL can't figure out how he got ot be old if his online personality is like his r/l one. i wouldn't pay his comments any mind. he picked me a few times months ago(it was my own fault as i knew there were higher cons around as i got into a low slow knifefight). i got tired of getting picked, so i guestimated how high i though he's be, grabbed a spit9, and upped from a clear base.
at 19k alt, i came across him with him having a very slight alt advantage. i dodged a ho attempt, and climbed to co-alt in the dodge. after a couple turns, i stalled, and he had my six, so not knowing what else to do, i dove for speed and seperation. he maintained his alt and next i ss is him bragging how the alt monkey blew all his E, and dove away. so he was calling me an alt mone\key for being almost as high as he was :rofl he kept trying to pick me as i tried to get back to his alt, so i gave up, and went looking for a fight somewhere else. found a corsair, and next i know, there;s that damd 109 on my tail again.
o well..........
Fair enough. At least watch the rest of the films.
One thing about "picks". A person adept at getting into position efficiently to kill guys in furballs is often mis-labeld a picker. In the film you watched, 5 planes were involved in the fight. Murdr was on whitey which made perfect sense because it probably started as a 1v1 which Murdr appeared to be winning decisively. Of course I'm going to shoot him off my teammate's 6... a pick? I think so but one that anyone else would have done, don't you think? The instant Murdr dies it becomes a 2v2. Both the f4f and the p40 go after whitey, ignoring me completely. Seems a mistake for both guys to go after the same plane, leaving another free to attack.. but not my fault. :) If you consider the kills on them picking, then one must consider every kill in a furball to be picking. :salute
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Did you watch the films? There were other fights in there.
As for Murdr, he is a ringer in his 38. If you beat him spit 8 vs his 38 under the same circumstances, I'd sure like to see it.
I saw the 1 109 fight that you had, which still is nothing to brag about, and the nice 3 kills you had in the first one. The first one, you had one buddy on the 38, another buddy on the F4F and a couple guys on the P40. I heard that you didn't want help in the 109 fight, but that person wasn't good either. Then the 2 P38 fights, again, nothing to brag about.
I don't know Murdr as much as I know Del in the MAs, I would rather kill Del over Murdr. The only thing that might have said wtg on, was the reversal of E and alt on the last film, which wasn't so bad.
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The first one, you had one buddy on the 38, another buddy on the F4F and a couple guys on the P40.
There was only me and whitey in that fight. No-one else got closer than 2.4,, and that was only after all 3 were dead. As for braggin.. I'm not.
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Steve and I have a history of provoking each other harshly, and resolving and forgetting about it rather quickly. I'd suggest against sniping on that side discussion.
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I saw the 1 109 fight that you had, which still is nothing to brag about, and the nice 3 kills you had in the first one. The first one, you had one buddy on the 38, another buddy on the F4F and a couple guys on the P40. I heard that you didn't want help in the 109 fight, but that person wasn't good either. Then the 2 P38 fights, again, nothing to brag about.
I don't know Murdr as much as I know Del in the MAs, I would rather kill Del over Murdr. The only thing that might have said wtg on, was the reversal of E and alt on the last film, which wasn't so bad.
Del is in the 80th.
The 80th suck.
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I think picking is completely BS. When you "pick" you clear a countryman's 6, allowing him to continue his sortie.
You got picked? Too bad. Its your fault, you put yourself into this position allowing him on your six. It's called situational awareness that's what lets you know who's around you, what altitude there at, and/or how far/close they are too you. I try not to complain about picking, but sometimes my temper gets the better of me.
(I have a very bad temper by the way) About steve, I think steve is a great stick, and the fact he was "picking" is pretty stupid, all he was doing was clearing his countryman's six. We all "pick" at some time, just some of us choose to admit it.
just my 2cents
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(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/bucky626/whocares-2.jpg?t=1221440828)
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(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/bucky626/whocares-2.jpg?t=1221440828)
:rofl :rofl
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<--- owns murdr and steve
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I commend you for trying another ride for a change. But I am sure you have posted only the best films for our viewing pleasure.
When I made that mentioned post, your K/D was 33+/1. Now you are at about 29/1 and your rank has dropped from 2 to 5.
Clearly you aren't as uber in the VIII as you are in the 51. As suspected, others agree with my assessment that your best skill is the pick someone who is engaged, and run screaming like a school girl. I would also expect your SA skills are quite good, as you can't get a 30/1 kd and not know when to run.
As I said in response to your PM, it's your money, fly like you like. I will say though, you haven't lived till you are mixing it up low in the deck, batteling it out, riding the stall horn, on the edge of control and still somehow win, what a rush..!!
Come down from 15k and try it sometime..
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Come down from 15k and try it sometime..
I realized after our exchanges on PM that you don't actually know how I fly at all. You heard a few things and either repeated them or tweaked them to your liking. In fact, I'll bet you a year's subscription you can't find a film of me over 15K, from the last 9 months or so, in the MA unless I'm engaging hi buffs, or went afk on climbout. I posted films to disprove your insults, now posts films of your claims.
The people agreeing with you watched one of the five films, spoke without actually knowing what they were talking about... much like you are here. :salute
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The people agreeing with you watched one of the five films, spoke without actually knowing what they were talking about... much like you are here. :salute
i didn't get in from work till 2am......and am at work now. i will be watching the others tonight though when i get to my home puter.
for some reason, this machine doesn't like the filmviewer
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i didn't get in from work till 2am......and am at work now. i will be watching the others tonight though when i get to my home puter.
for some reason, this machine doesn't like the filmviewer
My laptop won't run it either. I'm sure there's a good reason but....nuttin.
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My laptop won't run it either. I'm sure there's a good reason but....nuttin.
my laptop runs it, but it's short on memory.....only a 512 stick of physical memory in there. it runs it with only grayscale backround.
this one here, is alwas nighttime, and it looks like ou're yanking your head around like a crack addict on the run from his own imagination :rofl
that's why i'll just do it the easy way and wait till i get hiome.
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this one here, is alwas nighttime, and it looks like ou're yanking your head around like a crack addict on the run from his own imagination :rofl
that's why i'll just do it the easy way and wait till i get hiome.
:lol :aok
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first film:
ROOKS:steve(spit8), whitey33(109), spacey(spit), iilgaf(hurri)
KNIGHTS:murdr(p38), irishred(fm2), baumer(p40)
you guys hels all the cards. i know what murdr can do in that 38, but all of your guys aircraft outclassed them.
oooo....and where's this 2 vs 3 you mention? looks like besides having them outclassed, you had em outnumbered too.
the more you type here the more respect i'm losin for ya.
Where these fights in the MW a week or so ago?
ack-ack
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I bet you thought this "thread" was about you!!!!!
:cry
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Steve, just make another pass at em, and take a screenshot of their whines and then send those to em.
Skilless HO'tards such as yourself should refrain from posting in threads where fighting is being discussed, otherwise the topic will be above your understanding.
ack-ack
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I bet you thought this "thread" was about you!!!!!
:cry
You should check what you're packing in that bowl, you're not making any sense.
ack-ack
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Where these fights in the MW a week or so ago?
ack-ack
Yes, I think it was last Thursday. You were there for at least part of it.
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Yes, I think it was last Thursday. You were there for at least part of it.
Don't remember you in there but I remember beating the crap out of Spacy and that Finnish guy.
ack-ack
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Don't remember you in there but I remember beating the crap out of Spacy and that Finnish guy.
ack-ack
Ya, our times overlapped but a little.
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You should check what you're packing in that bowl, you're not making any sense.
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I know exactly what's in it, thank you very much!
I was vainly attempting to reference a song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ao8ZnT_WI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ao8ZnT_WI&feature=related)
Generally what I think whenever any starts a post about themselves. :aok
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Del is in the 80th.
The 80th suck.
:noid
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I know exactly what's in it, thank you very much!
I was vainly attempting to reference a song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ao8ZnT_WI&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ao8ZnT_WI&feature=related)
Generally what I think whenever any starts a post about themselves. :aok
:rofl
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:mif4SeRzWEHfXM:http://www.worth1000.com/entries/85500/85727qwYV_w.jpg)
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Well I am sticking up for Steve. No matter what you guys say. He is a squaddie of course but I follow him around all the time and see him enter the furball at 8k in a p51. So unless you fly lower than that when you fight then shut it cause I KNOW all of you whiners fly in at 10 or 15k and BZ...run...pick all day long and in dweeb rides like spit16's , typh and L gays. And then you have the nerve to whine about a p51 on the deck running. OMG!!! You all run like little girls and then turn around and squeak about it. It's pathetic.
I have heard in the last few days many mean things about Steve on range channel from all three countries. Why can't any of you just Salute when you get out flown instead of whining like girls.
And Murdr.....what the heck....You have a trainer tag and you post like that. I am dissapointed that you would say that. Poor show.
No offense agent, because I have a lot of respect for you as you know, but I don't think you see the side of steve that some of us do when we fly against him. It's his money and he could/can do whatever he likes with it, but I personally hold the opinion that I would expect more from him then what I see. Every time I fly (or flew) against him, I was reminded of a 2 weeker. I'm not saying that he can't do anything other then that, but rather that's all I see out of him.
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After watching you whine 5 minutes about a HO a little bit ago,
Head ons are righteous!!! :rock
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I like Steves fighting style. I just wonder if this would even be a concern if his name wasn't plastered on the home page for top fighter rank last tour. :salute
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what this really boils down to, (and no offense steve, ur very good at what you do in a pony/whatever - your "style") is Steve has always felt somewhat neglected when the "names" are mentioned.
does this make him any less talented or skilled? not at all, but it does reflect how the community perceives "names."
Steve has never claimed to be anything more than he ever has been; he's honest with his self-assessment, and like i said, very good at being "Steve."
So Steve, my only suggestion in accomplishing what you want, is to take a few months fly a bunch of different planes, and fly alone, or with one wingy into major trouble, scrape your way in or out, survival be damned and then you'll acquire that reputation for being one of the "names." or at least in that particular group of "names."
or not. :noid
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amen, flying like an idiot and surviving impresses more than 5 years of being ranked number 1.
not that impressing people should be important.
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Why is this thread still going? :huh
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amen, flying like an idiot and surviving impresses more than 5 years of being ranked number 1.
not that impressing people should be important.
yeah, basically what i'm saying. it's just one vocal subest of the game/bbs that defines a certain category of "names." if steve wants to be recognized by that particular minority, and he apparently does, then he has to meet their standards, such as they are.
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:noid
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Steve has flown on our squad vox before and i found him to be a good laugh to hang around with. What more do i need to like him?
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Steve has flown on our squad vox before and i found him to be a good laugh to hang around with. What more do i need to like him?
uhhhh, not that there's anything wrong with that. :aok
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amen, flying like an idiot and surviving impresses more than 5 years of being ranked number 1.
not that impressing people should be important.
I fly like an idiot and no one's impressed.
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Why is this thread still going? :huh
CAUSE IT CAN
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I fly like an idiot and no one's impressed.
yeah thats how it goes, and you just have to wonder how even less people are impressed with high rankers
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I fly like an idiot and no one's impressed.
Yea i fly like an idiot it's the living part that i have a tuff time with.
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Yea i fly like an idiot it's the living part that i have a tuff time with.
I did the: looking-over-my-shoulder-to-see-which-way-to-evade-then-hit-the-side-of-the-hill-at-300, version of the "fly like an idiot" last night. I did it basically right on top of a pack of enemy Gv's, giving a proxy in the process. Appropriate ribbing ensued.
Does this count? :aok
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I did the: looking-over-my-shoulder-to-see-which-way-to-evade-then-hit-the-side-of-the-hill-at-300, version of the "fly like an idiot" last night. I did it basically right on top of a pack of enemy Gv's, giving a proxy in the process. Appropriate ribbing ensued.
Does this count? :aok
think we've a; done that. when someone is on my six in a slow turnfight, i'm looking outside at them more than anything. more than once i've cleared a few trees for the gv's, or built really big foxholes, or hit otherwise immovable things. :D
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think we've a; done that. when someone is on my six in a slow turnfight, i'm looking outside at them more than anything. more than once i've cleared a few trees for the gv's, or built really big foxholes, or hit otherwise immovable things. :D
Hahaha Amen!
Trees: 105
Steve: 0
I keep trying though!
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I've read some nasty insults about me lately, how I can't fight... etc.
SCCA says:
Storch says:
Lots of nasty things like that.
So I decided to spend a night in a plane lots of people fly. I flew the spit 8. I haven't flown it much , totalling around 40 kills in it before these flights, all these flights were the night before last.
http://www.mediafire.com/?egxnieizcnz (http://www.mediafire.com/?egxnieizcnz)
http://www.mediafire.com/?0xgghncaana (http://www.mediafire.com/?0xgghncaana)
http://www.mediafire.com/?gmdixia4nni (http://www.mediafire.com/?gmdixia4nni)
http://www.mediafire.com/?atcjazcaaha (http://www.mediafire.com/?atcjazcaaha)
http://www.mediafire.com/?mghaicjzw1o (http://www.mediafire.com/?mghaicjzw1o)
Like anyone, I'd like to get better... but I can fight a little and I have fun.
watched the rest......
the one in the furball.........how the hellll do you get into a furball where noone can friggin hit you???? :rofl
i can see murdr's aggravation too.....with no warnings that you were following.........
i WISH my gunnery were that good.
in the last film, when you were climbing to the 38 as he was diving.......very admirable that neither one of you fired........
good films sir
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I did the: -hit-the-side-of-the-hill-at-300, Does this count? :aok
no.. u have to be under 120 for it to count. :aok
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I realized after our exchanges on PM that you don't actually know how I fly at all. You heard a few things and either repeated them or tweaked them to your liking. In fact, I'll bet you a year's subscription you can't find a film of me over 15K, from the last 9 months or so, in the MA unless I'm engaging hi buffs, or went afk on climbout. I posted films to disprove your insults, now posts films of your claims.
The people agreeing with you watched one of the five films, spoke without actually knowing what they were talking about... much like you are here. :salute
You are not up to 7 pages with your post-o-self edification, nice. I will leave you with a quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson
"What you do speaks so loudly that I cannot hear what you say." <S>
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Skilless HO'tards such as yourself should refrain from posting in threads where fighting is being discussed, otherwise the topic will be above your understanding.
ack-ack
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Keep crying baby. All this does is make me laugh. I offered you another fight, you said no. :rolleyes:
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I will leave you <S>
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No, you can't.
:noid
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Got the idiot part down, what was that other bit?
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d/l'd the first film......don't think i need to d/l anymore.
your gunnery was excellent. as was your picking skill.
not trying to be a love muffins, but i expected to see a couple good dogfighting films. instead i see you cherrypick murdr as he;s about to finish one of your countrymen, then you roll over into irish red on the six of another, and pick him. not really that impressive if ya ask me. but then who am i? i'm just a guy that sucks, and is trying to get better. :rolleyes:
Why is it such a bad thing to clear a countymans 6?
any other time it would be a whine on why no one helps out when there is a bandit on their tail :rolleyes:
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Dear Steve........(thats my name btw)..... To heck with what people say,....ya think being col Klink is easy???!!!! I run my mouth (not so much anymore) then I promptly go over and get my tail shot off. I run my mouth again,,...go over and get kilt again..... It's really not a big deal :D Fun and a few laughs is what its all about for me, and some pretty good folks in there as well.
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I will leave you <S>
:aok
Must be a democrat, notice he took the quote out of context, then responds. lol
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Steve, if people are talking about you and insulting your skills then that means you are good. Thats just human nature. If you are having fun playing the game then thats all that matters. :salute
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Nice sig RIP, people have to be afraid of the brothers RIP and MODO if your not you have been warned :mad:
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so what I've gathered from page after page is.....JA STOP HUMBPKIN STEPHVES ABNKLE U KNOOOBZ OR BEZ PREPARERED TO TAKEM DAS PAIN
lol Steve you playah. :aok
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I did the: looking-over-my-shoulder-to-see-which-way-to-evade-then-hit-the-side-of-the-hill-at-300, version of the "fly like an idiot" last night. I did it basically right on top of a pack of enemy Gv's, giving a proxy in the process. Appropriate ribbing ensued.
Does this count? :aok
I did the diving straight down on a set of low B-26's in a P47D-11, throttle off, cross controlling to hold speed down, finally release the rudder and ailerons, line up the target, fire and... "You have collided with xxx" version of flying like an idiot last night.
Broke off half my wing but I was able to ditch on base and did get one kill.
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Flying like an idiot means not climbing above 3k and flying straight to the enemy base with a sign on your back saying 'please gang me from altitude'.
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Flying like an idiot means not climbing above 3k and flying straight to the enemy base with a sign on your back saying 'please gang me from altitude'.
Lots of fun too...
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Flying like an idiot means not climbing above 3k and flying straight to the enemy base with a sign on your back saying 'please gang me from altitude'.
I knew that because that is exactly how I used to fly every sortie and still do on occasion. It's funny how no one ever wanted to come down to help me :)
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i actually enjoyed the films, especially the one where you seemed way outnumbered.....i think it was the 4th one? i STILL can't believe noone got ya though. i'll be watchin em more, from different angles to see what i can pick up
ooo...and skyrock? you need to chill dude.....you sounded like you were gonna pop a vein or something at one point :rofl
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i actually enjoyed the films, especially the one where you seemed way outnumbered.....i think it was the 4th one? i STILL can't believe noone got ya though. i'll be watchin em more, from different angles to see what i can pick up
ooo...and skyrock? you need to chill dude.....you sounded like you were gonna pop a vein or something at one point :rofl
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Thanks for taking the time to watch them, Cap. :salute
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:cry :cry :cry
:cry :cry :cry
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:salute Steve for a job well done ... regardless what any1 says
ur flying skills are 2nd to none .... good gunnery, SA, aircraft handling. Truly enjoyed ur films, would like to see more. :)
Regarding the film APPROACH, the last 1 that u posted, u approached the '38 & then...????? Where's the rest of the film, the outcome, the tactics & the moves, let's have the whole package, pls!
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I've read some nasty insults about me lately, how I can't fight... etc.
N00b! zOMFG!!!! You cannot fight!!! :uhoh :noid :devil
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Some of you dont even rate to reply to such a thread
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Some of you dont even rate to reply to such a thread
do you? :noid :rofl
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Thanks for taking the time to watch them, Cap. :salute
well, i told ya i would.
see, i have this problem. it's my consience. i get all pissy, and insult someone, with no really good reason, then i have some time to thinkn about it. then that damd voice in my head tells me how much of an assshole i was, and eventually i hafta agree. :noid
like i said, i'll definitly watch them again, to see what i can pick up. one of the things i did notice is that yhou seem to hit exceptionally well with the "below the nose" shots. i have serious trouble with them. i've tried everything i can think of, but cannot get the lead right.
i think that's part of why i do better when i don't have time to aim. there's only simple lead involved then.
i think.
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do you? :noid :rofl
and you are?
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and you are?
i am me. the guy trying to learn so i don't continue to suck as bad as i do now.
and you are?
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i am me. the guy trying to learn so i don't continue to suck as bad as i do now.
and you are?
just someone who has watched this community dissolve in the last few years.
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:lol now we're having fun :noid
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and you are?
Jam, meet Cap. A decent and likable guy who enjoys the game and is always looking to improve. Cap meet Jam. A pretty darn good stick that's been around for awhile :)
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and you are?
Get back out there. I always hate losing to you but I always have fun doing it.
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one thing Ive learned about you Steve is you are a great shot, :salute
and that is one of, if not the most important aspects of air combat.
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I flow same area with Steve few days ago. Donīt know if he was runner or not, but i was very impressed when he shot 2 enemys from my six in one sincle dive! Also he was telling all the time what happens around us when we were outnumbered, so it was easier to me fight. Althought i sucked again and was shot down :D
I thought "wau, this guy is good".
:salute Steve
SA gives you survivability. it doesn't make you a talented / skilled fighter. I've got very good SA which helps me get a lot of kills.. but skillwise I'd say im just above average.
as for OP.. I don't know who it is and haven't seen him play. I'm not one for watching films unless it's something promised as spectacular.
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Steve..... this post makes my balls itchy. Not your post...this post. No i get to scratch. Its one of MY favorite past times.
Oh and read the words of wisdom in my sig... whatever happened to that one AK?
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Jam, meet Cap. A decent and likable guy who enjoys the game and is always looking to improve. Cap meet Jam. A pretty darn good stick that's been around for awhile :)
thank ya sir :aok
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Flying like an idiot - Short Films Starter Pack
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