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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Widewing on September 13, 2008, 11:04:47 PM
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Three sequential frames from the gun camera of a P-47 as it strafes a 190 as it taxis on its own airfield. Could the Jug get any lower or closer? I doubt it. The exact location is unknown, other than it was in Germany. I have a copy of the entire film. Was quite interesting.
(http://home.att.net/~historyworld/190A_1.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~historyworld/190A_2.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~historyworld/190A_3.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
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Yow.
Teh HTC windmill is visible in the background - hackzorzz!!1!1!!!!111!!!
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Yeah thats probably in the Netherlands instead of Germany. Excellent find there Widewing! :aok
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If that were in AH the 190A pilot would be firing his guns back at the 47. :P
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A HO VULCH?!?!
That P47 pilot is a total n00b...
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I have dvd-box "Warbirds of WW2". There is story how allied flew so low that one pilot draws german soldiers head by his wing and brain pieces were spreaded all over his wing :O
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Poor bastid...
:salute
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Bet he got a nasty PM :rofl j/k
Great find !
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I wonder if they screamed about vulchers?
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Yeah thats probably in the Netherlands instead of Germany. Excellent find there Widewing! :aok
What.. they don't have windmills in Germany?
:)
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What if that Fw driver pulls trigger... BOOM?
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I believe the out come was the Jug pilot trying to pull up too late, getting a collision message, and PM'd the 190 pilot how he was a ramming dweeb. :lol
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What if that Fw driver pulls trigger... BOOM?
Out side of a wall of lead coming at him I doubt he can even see the jug over the top of his engine.
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Boy, I must be blind. Where's the Jug?
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Boy, I must be blind. Where's the Jug?
Jug took the pictures. Guncam footage.
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Jug took the pictures. Guncam footage.
Oops. I missed that part.
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Oops. I missed that part.
^^^^^^^^^^^
(smacks eagle) Time to stop drinking decaf coffee! :D
Great find WW. The jug pilot must have been virtually eight to twelve feet off the ground. Incredible flying. I bet the 190 pilot never saw it coming.
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I wonder if they screamed about vulchers?
Yeah, I'll bet they did.
- oldman
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What.. they don't have windmills in Germany?
Of course they do but I was looking at the undeveloped appearance of the airfield which made me think of locations in Holland (Netherlands) but of course that could be the same nearly anywhere. Its not a real good picture of course and hard to say but I dont think that structure is typical of the stone tower or wooden smock windmills (built high above ground) typical of Germany but more like the Dutch tower mill. Not that Im an expert on mills but I have a few hundred in my day.
By the way there are only four of these Dutch tower mills left today. If its one of those (unlikely) it would be easy to track down the location.
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Boy, I must be blind. Where's the Jug?
External views were disabled in ww2 I guess.
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Would you mind posting the video widewing? I'd love to see it! :rock
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What if that Fw driver pulls trigger... BOOM?
In that case I dont think we'd be looking at this particular guncam film. :)
Camo
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Is it just me or is only the 190 moving?
The objects in the background stay pretty much in the exact same location each frame but the 190 gets closer to the camera.
Was this really from the P47's gun cam or was it taken from another perspective?
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Would you mind posting the video widewing? I'd love to see it! :rock
Same here. If possible, could you please Widewing. Such a great find :salute
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Is it just me or is only the 190 moving?
The objects in the background stay pretty much in the exact same location each frame but the 190 gets closer to the camera.
Was this really from the P47's gun cam or was it taken from another perspective?
Well, the Jug is probably going VERY fast, so these three frames are probably less than a second from first to third, so nothing else would have TIME to move.
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Widewing,
Hope you don't mind (say if you do) but I just have to steal a copy of that Dogfighters Club Member
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Snoopy Bell
HB555 (HeadBeagle)
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Boy, I must be blind. Where's the Jug?
lol :aok
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Reminded me of a similar image from a 4th FG history. Mustang strafing a 190 on the taxiway. 190 driver turned his nose towards the attack, about all he could do to protect himself caught in the open like that
(http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s199/guppy35/strafe.jpg)
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hardcore when you think it was 8 of these babys firing at you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKSt-1gzsy4
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Or dual guns:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ9B-DvT1zE&feature=related
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I'd rather take 4 of these with me :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p8h43TRXwk&feature=related
-C+
Ed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiReOKTeldk&NR=1 ;)
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probably safer from ground fire at 10feet than at 100feet.
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I don't play the game for kills, I play for a fun fight. Vulching is not a fun fight.
:aok
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Oh man ....did the Jug have its wheels down during this attack? hehehe Ive read those guys would get realy low sometimes.Pilots comeing back with parts of tree's, telephone poles,wires you name it..wraped around theyre aircraft.If I recall correctly Gabreski went down only because his prop struck the ground during a strafing attack.I guess when ya get something in your sites it can be a hard thing to pull off until the job is done.
Are the gun cameras zoomed in at all?Wether it is or not he got down there!!Thanks for posting the pictures.
Pipz
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Are the gun cameras zoomed in at all?
That question occurred to me too.
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probably safer from ground fire at 10feet than at 100feet.
From what I've read there's a decent chance this is the case. Reading about the 354th BG in the pacific who performed lots of low level attacks against airfields there are several cases where a bomber would have to pull up to avoid colliding with someone else in there flight and from the anicdotal evidence it seems the immediately became targets and were singled out by the ground gunners and got hammered pretty good.
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:aok cool pic's
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Three sequential frames from the gun camera of a P-47 as it strafes a 190 as it taxis on its own airfield. Could the Jug get any lower or closer? I doubt it. The exact location is unknown, other than it was in Germany. I have a copy of the entire film. Was quite interesting.
(http://home.att.net/~historyworld/190A_1.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~historyworld/190A_2.jpg)
(http://home.att.net/~historyworld/190A_3.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
any chance of posting that film sir?
thanks :aok
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Good stuff, I wonder what went through that 190 pilot's mind at that time. Probably something like "oh chit, I'm screwed!'
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Good stuff, I wonder what went through that 190 pilot's mind at that time. Probably something like "oh chit, I'm screwed!'
probably a couple .50 cal rounds :D
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I'd rather take 4 of these with me :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p8h43TRXwk&feature=related
-C+
Ed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiReOKTeldk&NR=1 ;)
Those red tracers are SEXY!!!
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From what I've read there's a decent chance this is the case. Reading about the 354th BG in the pacific who performed lots of low level attacks against airfields there are several cases where a bomber would have to pull up to avoid colliding with someone else in there flight and from the anicdotal evidence it seems the immediately became targets and were singled out by the ground gunners and got hammered pretty good.
"hey pull up out of my way red 3"
"no way i had a green light, you pull up!"
:)
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I have dvd-box "Warbirds of WW2". There is story how allied flew so low that one pilot draws german soldiers head by his wing and brain pieces were spreaded all over his wing :O
On the history chnl or Military chnl I seen a story were a p51 was chasing a 190 or 109,cant remember,but the German plane was hit and the pilot bailed,but the were so close to the ground he hit b4 his chute opened and acually bounced back up and over the 51's wing! :O :salute
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I'm thinking the 190 guy got muted.....permanently :O
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Same here. If possible, could you please Widewing. Such a great find :salute
Fortunately, you can find that 3 second bit of gun camera footage on a commercial DVD.
http://www.amazon.com/WWII-Air-War/dp/B0015RRNES (http://www.amazon.com/WWII-Air-War/dp/B0015RRNES)
There are some absolutely marvelous WWII documentaries on this DVD. I highly recommend it.
My regards,
Widewing