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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Anaxogoras on September 14, 2008, 11:30:12 AM
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What's the most popular informal fallacy at the O'Club? I can't decide. The ones I see the most are the ad hominem and the straw-man, with plenty of red herrings thrown in for good measure. It's been 10 years since I took critical thinking in college, but it still drives me nuts that these fallacies are used routinely here and no one seems to give a damn about it. :P
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What's the most popular informal fallacy at the O'Club? I can't decide. The ones I see the most are the ad hominem and the straw-man, with plenty of red herrings thrown in for good measure. It's been 10 years since I took critical thinking in college, but it still drives me nuts that these fallacies are used routinely here and no one seems to give a damn about it. :P
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/Skyrock67/stawman.jpg)(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/Skyrock67/redherring.jpg) :devil
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anax.. you better explain a little simpler.. I don't think skyrock understood.
you could probly have skipped the snob appeal and said that we generalize here a lot. In general.. there is nothing wrong with generalizing.. so long as you realize that it is only... in general.
lazs
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Yup. pretty much. It's more or less always been that way....
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anax.. you better explain a little simpler.. I don't think skyrock understood.
you could probly have skipped the snob appeal and said that we generalize here a lot. In general.. there is nothing wrong with generalizing.. so long as you realize that it is only... in general.
lazs
Don't cower out, weak boi, he nailed you spot on. :rofl
WTG anax, you hooked the biggest red herring of all. :aok
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As you attack the O’club for being rampant in racial attacks, I would testify that you are obviously a bigot and therefore the premise of your original post cannot possibly be true. Your position that illogical arguments are an epidemic the O’club is just not so. We have had many discussions where logic and reason are used eloquently.
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Screw PC!
(You may now return to your regular scheduled program)
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Screw PC!
Wow. :confused:
Logic is politically correct, and probably metrosexual too. I never knew... :uhoh
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yes.... yes, you did.
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So logic is solely owned by college students? You cannot be logical unless some college
professor taught it to you?
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Many things astonishingly pass for logic here. Our public schools have failed miserably. Rather than spend our taxes on vouchers so that parents who can't otherwise afford to send their kids to a private school with a proven track record of success may do so, we demand more money for the incompetently led public schools. Believe it or not, there are actually people who post on this forum that support that position. Logic isn't what it used to be.
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What's the most popular informal fallacy at the O'Club? I can't decide. The ones I see the most are the ad hominem and the straw-man, with plenty of red herrings thrown in for good measure. It's been 10 years since I took critical thinking in college, but it still drives me nuts that these fallacies are used routinely here and no one seems to give a damn about it. :P
You forgot "post hoc ergo propter hoc". ;)
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You forgot "post hoc ergo propter hoc". ;)
We never had any logical fallacies until you posted in this thread, Sandman. I think you are the cause of all this.
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Obama is/was a muslim, an anti-christ or The Second Coming of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ(!)
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Obama is/was a muslim, an anti-christ or The Second Coming of Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ(!)
Seek help now!
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So logic is solely owned by college students? You cannot be logical unless some college
professor taught it to you?
Certainly not. What did I say that gave you reason to attribute such an outrageous belief to me? I think anyone can engage in critical thinking, but like most other abilities, it improves with study and practice.
We never had any logical fallacies until you posted in this thread, Sandman. I think you are the cause of all this.
:rofl
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It's been 10 years since I took critical thinking in college.
I've yet to meet a PhD with which I could never have an intellectual conversation with (hell, I even graded Thesis/Dissertations for my friend who taught English at U of M - Ann Arbor). I didn't take any "class" that you have and have made a damn good life for myself.
This Country allowed "Political Correctness" to go ahead of spartan Common Sense. The best is yet to come. Because it will NEVER "be the way it used to be." Sounds familiar in AH too, eh?
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What's the most popular informal fallacy at the O'Club? I can't decide. The ones I see the most are the ad hominem and the straw-man, with plenty of red herrings thrown in for good measure. It's been 10 years since I took critical thinking in college, but it still drives me nuts that these fallacies are used routinely here and no one seems to give a damn about it. :P
I'd say those are probably the two most common by far. If I had to guess, I'd say ad hominem arguments are more common.
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This Country allowed "Political Correctness" to go ahead of spartan Common Sense. The best is yet to come. Because it will NEVER "be the way it used to be." Sounds familiar in AH too, eh?
What the heck does political correctness have to do with informal fallacies? :confused:
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What the heck does political correctness have to do with informal fallacies? :confused:
Isn't 'Politically Correct' an example of an oxymoronic exempto ad hoc fallacy?
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oh.. i'm sorry. I thought this was the philatelist discussion.
carry on.
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oh.. i'm sorry. I thought this was the philatelist discussion.
carry on.
I don't know what brotherly love has to do with this.
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i can cut yah a deal on the cover..
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Is this question raised formally or informally as no true answer can be formed till this is defined, and any that are are fallacies.
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Is this question raised formally or informally as no true answer can be formed till this is defined, and that by fellatio...
Fixed.
Carry on.
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What the heck does political correctness have to do with informal fallacies? :confused:
What the heck does taking a College Course in "Critical Thinking" have to do with this thread?
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We never had any logical fallacies until you posted in this thread, Sandman. I think you are the cause of all this.
Excuse me... I'll duck out now. Forget I was here.
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get the **** out of our o'club, you have no place here general discussion dweeb. You are generalizing, and have no clue what we are about.
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meds!.. somebody get mustaine the meds cart!
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Fredrick Miller say's I am good to go! :aok :p
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Easy... If you ever slow dance with a Texan woman and say "now Dip" she'll hand you her Skoal.
:D
Mac
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skyrock.. he may well have intended it to mean me but instead.. he nailed you right between the eyes..
an example would be your latest when asked about the economy and the causes "7 years of that moron" was your reply.
I have argued with PHD's who used the same tactics as anax describes.. once you get em flustered. Other than that.. I have found that I GENERALLY have a better debate with educated people.
lazs
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Seek help now!
:lol
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Wow. :confused:
Logic is politically correct, and probably metrosexual too. I never knew... :uhoh
No there are too many logical arguments in favour of racism and sexism etc
PC is a moral position ;)
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I have argued with PHD's who used the same tactics as anax describes.. once you get em flustered. Other than that.. I have found that I GENERALLY have a better debate with educated people.
There are plenty of academics who act like little children.
The fact is we all use fallacies from time to time because they're fun, especially when your opponent doesn't know what hit them. My favorite is this:
9/11 Conspiracy Theorist: The Republicans are behind 9/11.
Me: But Noam Chomsky doesn't believe the Republicans would do that, and he believes in all sorts of conspiracy theories. If Noam Chomsky doesn't believe it, it can't be true.
9/11 Conspiracy Theorist: I thought Chomsky was smarter than that.
:P
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PC is a oral position ;)
Fixed.
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Wow. :confused:
Logic is politically correct, and probably metrosexual too. I never knew... :uhoh
You also probably didn`t notice that your thread has nothing to do with logic.
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You also probably didn`t notice that your thread has nothing to do with logic.
It's about opinion. The real question is...is it about what people think about their own opinions.
Many in here tend to try to shout down, rather than debate. I believe that's what Anax is trying to get at.
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anax.. in your example... it's just conversation.. not a debate. same for here... this is a place where you get to say "prove it" I like that.. I follow the far left and far right links here.
as for the conversation part? that is the filler.. it passes the time whether it is with a flustered PHD or a hick like myself.. enough of it and you get a feel for the person. that is what we do... us red voters and libertarians and individualists.. we get a feel for the person,and that is perhaps why all the "smart people" will never understand what makes us tick.
We got no problem understanding exactly what they are all about tho.. we understand it.. we just don't want any.
lazs
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Political Correctness should be renamed for truth - Fascist Political Cleansing.
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just look at the stock market...