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Title: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: eagl on September 14, 2008, 05:09:28 PM
Anyone else annoyed by car commercials that brag about how many "MPGs" their car has?  It's like they know American car buyers are too stupid to grasp the concept of "Miles Per Gallon", but they'll surely bite since they know "MPGs" are good, and the car they're selling has a whole bunch of them.  We're not sure where those MPGs are kept in the car though... I think the factory puts the extra MPGs in the trunk or the roofliner.  We don't know what MPGs are, but more is better so instead of advertising cars as efficient or getting more Miles Per Gallon, they just say their car has more MPGs than that other car.

Selling to the dumbest customers...  Yea, that's the way to make money.  Using advertising techniques specifically aimed at selling cars to the people who have the least to spend in a down economy.  No wonder the US auto industry is in deep doo-doo.  European and Japanese cars are efficient and get great fuel economy, US cars merely have lots of MPGs added at the factory.  Maybe it's like an upscale exhaust system, or spinners on the wheels?  Who gives a crap about fuel economy, I'm gonna get this other car because they say it comes with more MPGs.

Bah.

Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: AKIron on September 14, 2008, 05:17:57 PM
I like MPGs.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Tac on September 14, 2008, 05:28:09 PM
Yep. Its why I did not buy a Prius.


Consider..

they charge you almost $8k-12k more than a vehicle of comparable size (compact-midsize sedan) for the benefit of having twice your fuel mileage.

mmm...

lets see.. it takes $40 to fill up the avg 12 gal tank with prices at almost $4/gallon
Considering my avg driving time (I cross the entire city of Orlando to get to work) I need to gas up twice a month. =$80
The prius would only need one gas since it has 'twice' the MPG rating  = $40

Gassing my car (V6) its $80X12 = $960 a year
Gassing the prius is $480 a year.

Buuuut...

to buy the prius you needed to pay $8000 bucks more than my car. So take that $8k divide by 12 = 666 a year.. $666 addl cost for the car + 480 you pay for for gas = $1146

Yeah, you're saving money with a Prius.  :rolleyes:


I'll wait until them new vehicles truly become better option than getting me a much nicer, more comfortable car.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: AKIron on September 14, 2008, 05:31:36 PM
I get about 45 MPGs with my Honda, and I ride in style.

(http://powersports.honda.com/assets/images/model/c028_029_030_031_photos_all/motorcycles/2007/VTX1300R/LargeHoriz/VTX1300R_dark_red_metallic.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Hangtime on September 14, 2008, 05:40:14 PM


(http://www.morganandwacker.com.au/media/38093/sportster_xl1200n.jpg)

Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: eagl on September 14, 2008, 05:48:32 PM
Ignorant people can buy cars with "more MPGs".  I'll buy a car that gets more Miles Per Gallon.

Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 14, 2008, 05:51:52 PM
Ignorant people can buy cars with "more MPGs".  I'll buy a car that gets more Miles Per Gallon.

Can I get a car with money that comes from an ATM machine?  All I have to do is remember my personal PIN number.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Megalodon on September 14, 2008, 05:55:17 PM

Girlster


Fixed
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Tango on September 14, 2008, 05:55:22 PM
What they don't tell you is that the MPG is based off the striped down version of that model. Part all the extras on it and the MPG goes down.

Funny thing is the dealerships don't usually carry the striped down versions either.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: eagl on September 14, 2008, 05:57:03 PM
Can I get a car with money that comes from an ATM machine?  All I have to do is remember my personal PIN number.

The Department of Redundancy department is alive and well...

Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 14, 2008, 06:01:37 PM
The Department of Redundancy department is alive and well...

My point was the same as yours.  That people forget what the acronym stands for.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: DMBEAR on September 14, 2008, 06:36:38 PM
Can I get a car with money that comes from an ATM machine?  All I have to do is remember my personal PIN number.

This van is unclaimed http://youtube.com/watch?v=fjJqvtromEE (http://youtube.com/watch?v=fjJqvtromEE)
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: vorticon on September 14, 2008, 07:23:37 PM
My point was the same as yours.  That people forget what the acronym stands for.

 I would expect most people know what the acronym stands for. Using machine or number is just an attempt to maintain the flow of speech. Acronyms work great written down, not so much while talking.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 14, 2008, 07:26:15 PM
I would expect most people know what the acronym stands for.

I wouldn't.  Otherwise people would speak good.   ;)
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: vorticon on September 14, 2008, 07:49:19 PM
I wouldn't.  Otherwise people would speak good.   ;)

Acronyms are easy.

Speaking in a manner that makes it possible to use them without sounding awkward is a little bit harder.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 14, 2008, 08:18:54 PM
There's a much better explanation for why American car companies are tanking than their stupid advertisements.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Bronk on September 14, 2008, 08:20:24 PM
There's a much better explanation for why American car companies are tanking than their stupid advertisements.
Yup.... unions.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Hangtime on September 14, 2008, 08:21:23 PM
yep. the most insane national trade policy known to man.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: REP0MAN on September 14, 2008, 08:22:32 PM

Girlster



Fixed

You beat me to it.

:aok
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 14, 2008, 08:23:02 PM
Yup.... unions.
yep. the most insane national trade policy known to man.
Oooh!  Let's see how many more we can come up with! :pray
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Getback on September 14, 2008, 10:45:31 PM
Yep. Its why I did not buy a Prius.


Consider..

they charge you almost $8k-12k more than a vehicle of comparable size (compact-midsize sedan) for the benefit of having twice your fuel mileage.

mmm...

lets see.. it takes $40 to fill up the avg 12 gal tank with prices at almost $4/gallon
Considering my avg driving time (I cross the entire city of Orlando to get to work) I need to gas up twice a month. =$80
The prius would only need one gas since it has 'twice' the MPG rating  = $40

Gassing my car (V6) its $80X12 = $960 a year
Gassing the prius is $480 a year.

Buuuut...

to buy the prius you needed to pay $8000 bucks more than my car. So take that $8k divide by 12 = 666 a year.. $666 addl cost for the car + 480 you pay for for gas = $1146

Yeah, you're saving money with a Prius.  :rolleyes:


I'll wait until them new vehicles truly become better option than getting me a much nicer, more comfortable car.

Well said Tac. and a paid off car gets even better mileage than a prius. Say like my jeep.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Chalenge on September 15, 2008, 02:41:13 AM
I wonder how much they will charge for hydrogen when the new Honda hits the market? Actually Im wondering how you can buy hydrogen at all!
It appears to draw oxygen from the atmosphere?

http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Furball on September 15, 2008, 02:42:47 AM
Where can i buy a redline to go with my mpgs?
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: SD67 on September 15, 2008, 02:48:46 AM
All my mpg's are on my HDD :devil
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: rpm on September 15, 2008, 03:04:08 AM
They are selling brand new pickups for 60% off here. What does that tell you?
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: MiloMorai on September 15, 2008, 04:54:52 AM
They are selling brand new pickups for 60% off here. What does that tell you?

Large mark up?
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: SD67 on September 15, 2008, 05:21:18 AM
Large mark up?
:rofl
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: eagl on September 15, 2008, 10:10:04 AM
They are selling brand new pickups for 60% off here. What does that tell you?

Not enough room in the pickup cab to install more MPGs?

Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: CAP1 on September 15, 2008, 10:18:29 AM
Anyone else annoyed by car commercials that brag about how many "MPGs" their car has?  It's like they know American car buyers are too stupid to grasp the concept of "Miles Per Gallon", but they'll surely bite since they know "MPGs" are good, and the car they're selling has a whole bunch of them.  We're not sure where those MPGs are kept in the car though... I think the factory puts the extra MPGs in the trunk or the roofliner.  We don't know what MPGs are, but more is better so instead of advertising cars as efficient or getting more Miles Per Gallon, they just say their car has more MPGs than that other car.

Selling to the dumbest customers...  Yea, that's the way to make money.  Using advertising techniques specifically aimed at selling cars to the people who have the least to spend in a down economy.  No wonder the US auto industry is in deep doo-doo.  European and Japanese cars are efficient and get great fuel economy, US cars merely have lots of MPGs added at the factory.  Maybe it's like an upscale exhaust system, or spinners on the wheels?  Who gives a crap about fuel economy, I'm gonna get this other car because they say it comes with more MPGs.

Bah.



you forgot to mentionm that they quietly say that the rated miles per gallon is highway. and that it;s in perfect conditiopna with an unworn engine.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Jackal1 on September 15, 2008, 10:25:33 AM
All my mpg's are on my HDD :devil

I think they have an ointment now that will clear that right up.  :D
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: eagl on September 15, 2008, 10:27:31 AM
Actually, I think they are using "MPGs" instead of "miles per gallon" not only because they think customers are too stupid to know what MPG means, but also because the "MPG rating" uses an outdated EPA mandated test that has been thoroughly debunked by Consumer Reports, and has no realistic correlation to real-world fuel efficiency.  The EPA ratings have "city" and "highway" ratings, but the test measures steady-state conditions only using a formula that has been proven to grossly over-rate many vehicles vs. what they get in actual use.


Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: CAP1 on September 15, 2008, 12:04:14 PM
Actually, I think they are using "MPGs" instead of "miles per gallon" not only because they think customers are too stupid to know what MPG means, but also because the "MPG rating" uses an outdated EPA mandated test that has been thoroughly debunked by Consumer Reports, and has no realistic correlation to real-world fuel efficiency.  The EPA ratings have "city" and "highway" ratings, but the test measures steady-state conditions only using a formula that has been proven to grossly over-rate many vehicles vs. what they get in actual use.




not so much because they think customers are stupid, as much as it sounds "catchy".

as i mentioned before, they fail to mention a LOT. i don't think i've ever met a person that got the advertised mileage from their vehicles.

Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Wolf14 on September 15, 2008, 12:10:03 PM
Time is money in TV/ Radio. It takes aproximately 1 second to say Miles Per Gallon and aproximately .68 to .75 seconds to say MPG's give or take a few tenths of a second.

Just think of all the useless information they wouldnt be able to tell us if they'd simply say the longer version that takes more time to say.


Wolfy
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Holden McGroin on September 15, 2008, 12:43:17 PM
They are selling brand new pickups for 60% off here. What does that tell you?

Why would somebody buy 40% of a truck?
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Hangtime on September 15, 2008, 12:47:51 PM
more mpg's that way.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Elfie on September 15, 2008, 01:02:51 PM
more mpg's that way.

 :lol
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Fulmar on September 15, 2008, 01:19:37 PM
I get about 45 MPGs with my Honda, and I ride in style.

(http://powersports.honda.com/assets/images/model/c028_029_030_031_photos_all/motorcycles/2007/VTX1300R/LargeHoriz/VTX1300R_dark_red_metallic.jpg)
Can you put snow tires on those?  Oh you can't?
/Wisconsin
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: ariansworld on September 15, 2008, 04:38:23 PM
Where can i buy a redline to go with my mpgs?

We sell Red Line Saturns at Star Motors.
Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Wolfala on September 15, 2008, 09:00:34 PM
I found a nice compromise between speed and economy.

http://www.cafefoundation.org/v2/pdf_apr/legacy.pdf (http://www.cafefoundation.org/v2/pdf_apr/legacy.pdf)

(http://www.legacy-innovations.com/product_images/Legacy_speedmod_lrg.jpg)

Lancair legacy. 304 MPH on 13 gallons per hour lean of peak mixtures. 23 miles PER GALLON. Of course, you can do 9.5 GPH lean of peak at 217 mph and 30 MPG, but hey. Who is counting.

Don't know of any other aircraft that can go from Oakland to Portland Oregon, to Las Vegas, To Phoenix AZ and back to Oakland on less then 60 gallons of gas.

Title: Re: Anyone else annoyed by...
Post by: Stalwart on September 16, 2008, 01:17:45 AM
I don't like MPGs when they add them to my soup, like in cheap chinese resturants.