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Title: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 832725 on September 16, 2008, 09:34:17 PM
I saw this in a Flight sim i thought this could work:

             SB2C Helldiver
             Crew:2
             Powerplant: 1 Wright R-2600 cyclone Radial engine
             Armament: 2x20mm cannons, 2x 0.30 in machine guns for gunner
             Internal bay: 2,000lb of bombs or 1x Mark 13-2 torpedo
             Underwing hardpoints: 500lb of bomb each
             Max speed: 294 Mph
             Range: 1,200 miles
             Service ceiling: 25,000ft
             Rate of climb: 1,750ft/min

           Enjoy hope we get it <S> :pray
     
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: bobtom on September 16, 2008, 09:37:33 PM
What an original idea!!!
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 832725 on September 16, 2008, 09:39:54 PM
Though i might add:
We need the He-111 more but the Helldiver would be nice too.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 832725 on September 16, 2008, 09:43:55 PM
If we cant get the Helldiver, we need some more Cv planes plz plz :pray :pray
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: bobtom on September 16, 2008, 09:46:02 PM
Try putting in the search thing: Helldiver, SB2C Helldiver, or SB2C.    :aok
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 832725 on September 16, 2008, 09:48:51 PM
You agree with my idea bout the Helldiver?
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: vonKrimm on September 17, 2008, 01:56:32 AM
We need the He-111 more but the Helldiver would be nice too.

I suppose you think we also need the G4M "Betty". WHY do we need the He-111? What role could it have that one of the other bombers does not already do, and does better.

As for the Helldiver, I am all for that.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: macleod01 on September 17, 2008, 07:33:11 AM
WHY do we need the He-111? What role could it have that one of the other bombers does not already do, and does better.

Why? three simple words. Battle Of Britain
What role can it play? Well, in scenarios it actually means early planes might have a CHANCE to catch the bombers!

OK, the HE111 may not have 12 .50s as defence. It may not be able to carry 22000lbs of ord, but it DOES fill a massive hole in th plane set. The HE111 was the backbone of the German bombing campaign from the beginning of the war, and served right until the end. Its also the Iconic bomber. After the last BoB scenario, we all got patches. It was the HE111 on them, not the JU88 that was used AS A SUBSTITUTE. Ladies and Gentlemen of the opposition, I rest my case.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: bobtom on September 17, 2008, 07:43:55 AM
I do fully agree on the above.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Denholm on September 17, 2008, 08:40:48 AM
Don't we already have this, except 2 .50's instead of 2 20MM's? :confused:
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 832725 on September 17, 2008, 09:35:25 AM
well on Cvs we dont have many Dive bobmers that are american Only the Sbd and Tbm that 2 we need the helldiver but the the staff wont do anything problay.Hope they do plz HTC :pray
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: vonKrimm on September 17, 2008, 09:40:21 AM
I respect the historical desire for the plane.  but i must counter that except in certain rare times, it will become a hanger queen.  In a game where the top ranked pilots are not the best pilots, but rather the best SIM sticks, how does the 111 enhance gameplay?  If it were possible read: economicaly feasible), I am sure that HTC would give us every plane that saw, reasonable, service in WW2.

Now a plane that WILL do something for gameplay & give us a chance to spend our bomber perks on something other than 234s is the A-26.  :rock bring HT, bring it!  :rock
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Karnak on September 17, 2008, 10:07:59 AM
832725,

We have more American CV aircraft than any other nation's.  We need things like the B6N2 "Jill", D4Y "Judy" and Firefly Mk I much more than we need more American CV aircraft.


vonKrimm,

If that is how you see things, you should probably just start advocating no new aircraft ever be added now.  All the "mass use" aircraft have been added and anything added now will be a hangar queen compared to what we already have.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 832725 on September 19, 2008, 05:57:02 PM
only thing bad bout the helldiver is its slow and big=easy ack target
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Helm on September 20, 2008, 10:47:47 AM
I respect the historical desire for the plane.  but i must counter that except in certain rare times, it will become a hanger queen.  In a game where the top ranked pilots are not the best pilots, but rather the best SIM sticks, how does the 111 enhance gameplay?  If it were possible read: economicaly feasible), I am sure that HTC would give us every plane that saw, reasonable, service in WW2.

Now a plane that WILL do something for gameplay & give us a chance to spend our bomber perks on something other than 234s is the A-26.  :rock bring HT, bring it!  :rock

Booooooo .....it's folks like you that keep the early war plane set from being fleshed out .....Why aren't fans of early War rides entitled to some airframes?  Thanks to you and your kind we will never ever see He-111's  I-16's  C.200's  Mig-3's  Ki-27's  ...etc etc .....Boooooooo

Does every new plane have to be put through the criteria of:  "Will this revolutionise the Late War arenas? " ......I'm so tired of this argument.

I have a newsflash for you ...there are very very few planes left that would set the LW on it's ear .....

There are no "Hanger Queens"  ...the planes are ready to fly any time you want them ...you just have to have enough "stones" to fly it.  the plane is more then willing.


Helm ...out
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Nisky on September 20, 2008, 03:10:22 PM
Booooooo .....it's folks like you that keep the early war plane set from being fleshed out .....Why aren't fans of early War rides entitled to some airframes?  Thanks to you and your kind we will never ever see He-111's  I-16's  C.200's  Mig-3's  Ki-27's  ...etc etc .....Boooooooo

Does every new plane have to be put through the criteria of:  "Will this revolutionise the Late War arenas? " ......I'm so tired of this argument.

I have a newsflash for you ...there are very very few planes left that would set the LW on it's ear .....

There are no "Hanger Queens"  ...the planes are ready to fly any time you want them ...you just have to have enough "stones" to fly it.  the plane is more then willing.


Helm ...out


I totally agree. Vonkrimm do u not count the people in the early and mid war arenas as people? What about the people in the AvA they need planes too.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 1pLUs44 on September 20, 2008, 03:17:38 PM
Try putting in the search thing: Helldiver, SB2C Helldiver, or SB2C.    :aok

Why though? As soon as he searches it and bumps it, you'll call him an idiot for bumping it :rolleyes:  :D
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Xasthur on September 21, 2008, 03:44:14 AM
Why a rubbish American aircraft when the US planeset is already over-represented? Yak 3, Me 410, He 111, Ruski level bombers etc etc. No more US stuff please, especially junk like the Helldiver. The US pilots hated it. Hahaha
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Saxman on September 21, 2008, 10:14:07 AM
Why though? As soon as he searches it and bumps it, you'll call him an idiot for bumping it :rolleyes:  :D

Ah, the irony of the "Search Button." Damned if you do, damned if your don't. :D
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: NEARY on September 21, 2008, 06:53:15 PM
in my opinion if we need anything it is a perked mid war bomber!!
how are the people in midwar gonna spend thier bomber perks :cry
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Spikes on September 21, 2008, 06:56:00 PM
Why though? As soon as he searches it and bumps it, you'll call him an idiot for bumping it :rolleyes:  :D
Actually no, you search it. Find it, read it, and then you don't have to post, because people have posted their thoughts already.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: Odisseo on September 22, 2008, 05:09:35 AM
I respect the historical desire for the plane.  but i must counter that except in certain rare times, it will become a hanger queen.  In a game where the top ranked pilots are not the best pilots, but rather the best SIM sticks, how does the 111 enhance gameplay?  If it were possible read: economicaly feasible), I am sure that HTC would give us every plane that saw, reasonable, service in WW2.

Now a plane that WILL do something for gameplay & give us a chance to spend our bomber perks on something other than 234s is the A-26.  :rock bring HT, bring it!  :rock

The simple reason is there are squads who fly only Axis airplanes wich would be glad if there would be at least a 3th bomber, above all if one of the first 2 is the Ki67 (great bomber indeed, but with little bombload).
Secondary, as well explained, in any scenario it would be the real bomber to use.

greetz!
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 100goon on September 25, 2008, 05:49:36 PM
we need this  :noid  keep it on the top or else  :furious  :noid  :noid  :o :o :mad: :mad: :devil :devil :O :O :huh :aok :aok
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: bobtom on September 25, 2008, 06:29:42 PM
Yeah, because its never been asked for... :uhoh  :huh  :confused:.....We need the He-111 much more....
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 100goon on September 25, 2008, 06:30:45 PM
Yeah, cause its never been asked for... :uhoh  :huh  :confused:.....We need the He-111 much more....

no we dont we have enough heavy bombers for now, the helldiver is better
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: bobtom on September 25, 2008, 06:31:39 PM
no we dont we have enough heavy bombers for now, the helldiver is better

It's not a heavy bomber.
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 100goon on September 25, 2008, 06:32:43 PM
its the almost same size as the 88 which is a hvy bomber, it held more lbs { converted becuase 1kg=2.2lbs } so do the math
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: bobtom on September 25, 2008, 06:37:19 PM
Still its not a heavy bomber...I think at least, I'm no bomber expert....
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 100goon on September 25, 2008, 06:37:38 PM
give m,e the kgs ill see
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: lyric1 on September 25, 2008, 06:38:56 PM
No more US stuff please, especially junk like the Helldiver. The US pilots hated it. Hahaha
But..but..but they are such a pretty shade of blue. (http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8212/airhelldiver5xl0.th.jpg) (http://img442.imageshack.us/my.php?image=airhelldiver5xl0.jpg)
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: bobtom on September 25, 2008, 06:39:36 PM
According to wikipedia its a medium bomber....but you can't trust that...

Another website says it carries only 2,000 lbs of payload, compared to the Ju-88s 5,000ish (again no bomber expert...)
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: 100goon on September 25, 2008, 06:40:33 PM
no i could go on right now and change it to its a type of waffle { lol waffle the food not the guys lol }
Title: Re: SB2C Helldiver
Post by: bobtom on September 25, 2008, 06:44:00 PM
no i could go on right now and change it to its a type of waffle { lol waffle the food not the guys lol }

True, true.