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Title: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 08:07:58 AM
My new mother board ( ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard ) has 4 PCI Express 2.0 x16 slots with ATI CrossFireX™ support (@ dual x16, triple x16 / x8 / x8, or quad x8 modes) and 2 PCI Slots.

My new graphics card covers one of the PCI slots. (double wide)  My ethernet card is PCI and so is my sound card.

Can I put either in a PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot?

Thanks
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: VonMessa on September 18, 2008, 08:16:37 AM
Nein
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fulmar on September 18, 2008, 08:16:57 AM
#1 No you cannot put a PCI card in a PCI-E slot.  They are physically different
#2 Your motherboard comes with 2 PCI slots
#3 Why are you using an ethernet/NIC card?  The motherboard has it built in.
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: VonMessa on September 18, 2008, 08:31:09 AM
#1 No you cannot put a PCI card in a PCI-E slot.  They are physically different


The PCI  will physically fit into the express slot, but not vice versa.   But it still will not work.


#3 Why are you using an ethernet/NIC card?  The motherboard has it built in.

Not all of them do.  Especially when you start bare bones.  And ESPECIALLY gigabit cards.






Fencer, if you want (or still can),  exchange the video or nic card for a PCI Express  Or even the sound for that matter
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 08:37:55 AM
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3 Why are you using an ethernet/NIC card?  The motherboard has it built in.

It does???
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 08:44:01 AM
Von, I can find PCI 2.0 sound cards but not PCI express.
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Denholm on September 18, 2008, 08:45:32 AM
It does???
Most motherboards do. Mine does. Check on the back to see if it has a slot for a CAT5 cable.

Von, I can find PCI 2.0 sound cards but not PCI express.

Check www.soundblaster.com
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: VonMessa on September 18, 2008, 08:55:28 AM
Von, I can find PCI 2.0 sound cards but not PCI express.

Go for the new NIC card, then.

You can get a gigabit (not that your router OR ISP is that fast, yet) PCI Express one.

Or just use USB headphones for now.  We need you ready for tomorrow.     ;)
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 08:58:23 AM
GAAAAAHHHHHH  :uhoh

Ok, I found PCI Express sound cards but they are x1.. will those work in X8 or X16 slots?

Von where is this NIC card you speak of.
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: VonMessa on September 18, 2008, 09:12:13 AM
They should work.


The "NIC" card is the Ethernet card (sorry)


P.S. 

Can't you drop the Video card down a slot so it doesn't hog up (or cover) the empty slot?
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 09:15:23 AM
Yeah I knew that, I meant where as in "what model etc".

Ok the local Frys store has a D-link 1.0GB NIC card for $49.00, I will hobble in and grab it on the way home.  I can reuse my sound card then.  REALLY wish I had not thrown away the box for the PCI NIC card I bought 3 weeks ago...  :cry

I "should" but up completely tonight.  Everything else posted, I kept having a SM BUS CONTROLLER hardware thing pop up and difficulties installing the PCI NIC card.. BUT I figured out I never loaded the Motherboard's drivers.. d'oh.  :O :huh :rofl
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 09:16:51 AM
They should work.


The "NIC" card is the Ethernet card (sorry)


P.S. 

Can't you drop the Video card down a slot so it doesn't hog up (or cover) the empty slot?

No I cannot.  It covers no matter what I do, and I cannot use the lowest X16 slot as it is on top of my power supply and cuts off the power cord opening.. This thing is packed tighter than a clown car.
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: VonMessa on September 18, 2008, 09:28:19 AM
No I cannot.  It covers no matter what I do, and I cannot use the lowest X16 slot as it is on top of my power supply and cuts off the power cord opening.. This thing is packed tighter than a clown car.


Not good for thermal issues.


also

   "I cannot use the lowest X16 slot as it is on top of my power supply and cuts off the power cord opening"


Are you saying that your PSU is at the bottom?
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fulmar on September 18, 2008, 09:51:43 AM
I'm still confused why we're getting a NIC card here.
"My new mother board ( ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard )"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131339&Tpk=ASUS%20M3A79-T%20Deluxe

Onboard LAN
LAN Chipset    Marvell 88E8056
Max LAN Speed    10/100/1000Mbps
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: VonMessa on September 18, 2008, 10:01:26 AM
I didn't look it up, but thanks for the link.

Apparently, his LAN is on-board.

Don't know why he has an extra     :noid
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 11:32:15 AM
I'm still confused why we're getting a NIC card here.
"My new mother board ( ASUS M3A79-T Deluxe AM2+/AM2 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard )"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131339&Tpk=ASUS%20M3A79-T%20Deluxe

Onboard LAN
LAN Chipset    Marvell 88E8056
Max LAN Speed    10/100/1000Mbps

Yeah.. I knew that.. this was just an exercise in discussion.. yeah that's it.. :O :huh :aok

Thanks!
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 11:59:05 AM

   "I cannot use the lowest X16 slot as it is on top of my power supply and cuts off the power cord opening"


Are you saying that your PSU is at the bottom?

Yep.
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: VonMessa on September 18, 2008, 01:25:13 PM
Please don't take this the wrong way, but that is kinda dumb.

Last time I checked, heat rises.  So the heat gets to radiate up through everything else?

Kinda hard to evacuate the heat efficiently that way.
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 01:31:00 PM
Two fans at the top draw everything out.  Its a 1000watt power supply also.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129025

Also, I cannot get my IDE hard drive to work.  If I plug it in with my IDE CDR/DVD player in series using the CDR/DVD as the master the system assumes it is the master drive (even though I have it jumpered as a slave) and ignores my SATA hard drive.  Anyone got any ideas?

Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: VonMessa on September 18, 2008, 01:58:56 PM
Have you tried setting everything as cable select?
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 02:28:39 PM
Yeah I did.  I think I found out what is wrong from a buddy here at work.  I need to connect the SATA drive to SATA 1 on the motherboard, I had just hooked it up and moved on, its on SATA 2 now.
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: VonMessa on September 18, 2008, 03:07:40 PM
That was gonna be my next question...........   (have you checked the MoBo jumpers?)

WTG   :aok
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: Fencer51 on September 18, 2008, 07:24:48 PM
Still didn't work.  I removed the jumper from the IDE drive and it is in the slave position on the cable with the DVD/CDR in the master... still recognizes the IDE drive as the master for booting which does not work considering that its not got winders on it.
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: VonMessa on September 19, 2008, 12:31:52 PM
Still didn't work.  I removed the jumper from the IDE drive and it is in the slave position on the cable with the DVD/CDR in the master... still recognizes the IDE drive as the master for booting which does not work considering that its not got winders on it.

Did you tell the BIOS to use  the SATA as the boot device?
Title: Re: PCI Slot question
Post by: doc1kelley on September 23, 2008, 07:40:13 PM
Von, I can find PCI 2.0 sound cards but not PCI express.

Creative makes an X-FI Extreme audio PCI-Express sound card and a Fatality version in PCI-Express.  Keep in mind that the Extreme Audio is not really a true X-FI but it does well in game.  I am running an Asus M3A32MVP Deluxe motherboard with ATI crossfie enabled, same specs.  I am also running a PCI Network card (Killer K1).  Just make sure you disable the onboard sound and Lan.  Oh and the Extreme Audio PCI-E card ran me about 45 bucks two months ago.

All the Best...
    Jay
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