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Title: The first black astronaut
Post by: AquaShrimp on September 21, 2008, 04:31:58 PM
I was reading about famous people who have died in plane crashes, and I came across one mentioned the first black astronaut, Robert Lawrence.  He graduated high school at 16, college at 20, went on to become an instructor pilot *and* earn a PhD in Chemistry.  Six months after being selected for astronaut training, he was killed when in a F-104 crash.  He was letting a student pilot perform a steep descent glide, mimicking the landing of a gliding spacecraft.  The student flared too late, the plane smashed into the ground, and Lawrence ejected into the ground.

Interesting bit of history there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Henry_Lawrence,_Jr.
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: ramzey on September 21, 2008, 08:17:46 PM
With all respect, how can he be astronaut if he never was in space?
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: DiabloTX on September 21, 2008, 08:24:27 PM
Read "Deke!" by Deke Slayton to get more inside details about this.  There were better black candidates than Lawrence, they just decided not to submit applications.
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: Dago on September 21, 2008, 08:59:54 PM
I am glad when I learned to fly my instructor didn't allow me to do anything that would kill us.
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: FrodeMk3 on September 21, 2008, 09:05:01 PM
I am glad when I learned to fly my instructor didn't allow me to do anything that would kill us.

Reading the Wiki article, this looked like he was instructing a pilot on advanced techniques used for re-entry, I.E. such as landing the X-15 or the Space Shuttle. I doubt that the pilot he was training wasn't someone who already wasn't an accomplished pilot.
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: BnZ on September 21, 2008, 09:43:54 PM
He died in a quest that will ultimately prove more inspiring and meaningful than all the wars in history.
 :salute
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: Hangtime on September 21, 2008, 09:48:37 PM
Kleine Opfer müssen gebracht werden!
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: Masherbrum on September 21, 2008, 09:54:41 PM
First Black man in space was a Cuban on Soyuz 38.   
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: BnZ on September 21, 2008, 09:58:51 PM
Kleine Opfer müssen gebracht werden!

"Small victims must be brought!"  :huh Really?
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: Hangtime on September 21, 2008, 10:04:44 PM
"Small Sacrifices must be made." Last words of the first man to fly.. a guy that spent his fortune and eventually his life in advancing aviation. Otto Lilienthal. It became the unofficial motto of test pilots... usually uttered with a wry smile before committing aviation in dangerous and unfavorable circumstances.
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: BnZ on September 21, 2008, 10:07:31 PM
I know...I just thought that was one of babels more memorable misfires.  :D
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: 442w30 on September 21, 2008, 10:25:04 PM
"Small Sacrifices must be made." Last words of the first man to fly.. a guy that spent his fortune and eventually his life in advancing aviation. Otto Lilienthal. It became the unofficial motto of test pilots... usually uttered with a wry smile before committing aviation in dangerous and unfavorable circumstances.

So while I was studying Political Science, some of you guys were studying aircraft and flying. Explains why I am an awful AH pilot.   :lol  Just ask BnZ...  he gets a little frustrated with my flying skills and judgment.

Good story btw. 
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: AquaShrimp on September 21, 2008, 10:36:10 PM
Read "Deke!" by Deke Slayton to get more inside details about this.  There were better black candidates than Lawrence, they just decided not to submit applications.

You'd be hard-pressed to find a better candidate than a test pilot who has a PhD.
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: mg1942 on September 21, 2008, 10:50:42 PM
First Black man in space was a Cuban on Soyuz 38.   

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Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: BnZ on September 21, 2008, 10:56:16 PM
The first DEAD man in space was also the result of a Communist space program... :D

Can't just be a man doing his job with some people can it? Gotta pander and pot-stir.
Title: Re: The first black astronaut
Post by: DiabloTX on September 22, 2008, 12:09:47 AM
You'd be hard-pressed to find a better candidate than a test pilot who has a PhD.

Take it up with Deke and Chuck Yeager, not me.