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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hblair on February 01, 2001, 05:31:00 PM
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I understand the guns on the bombers having to be turned up for gameplay, I have no problem with that. But this makes the 109, and 190's rockets almost useless (unless tailgunners asleep (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)) . The range of the rockets seems to be 750 yds before the timer causes it to explode, I've gotten kills at this range with them. This is well within the range of an average tailgunner. Would it be feasible to increase the range of the rockets another 500 yds? That way, they might be more useful. I don't think this will disrupt gameplay, as not too many fellas are interested in learning to aim them efficiently.
Also, weren't the rockets supposed to fire at a slight upward angle?
Thanks,
hb
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[This message has been edited by hblair (edited 02-01-2001).]
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Kill the bomber with your guns...save the rockets for the chutes that pop out of the bomber (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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I agree hblair. They were designed to be a stand-off weapon to break up the bomber formations outside the range of their defensive armament. Not much chance of that in AH.
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[This message has been edited by LJK Raubvogel (edited 02-01-2001).]
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At 300mph the rockets detonate 440 yards off your nose. I've yet to see anyone get that close to any buff from a dead-6 approach without getting blown into confetti.
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...Originally posted by hblair:
The range of the rockets seems to be 750 yds before the timer causes it to explode, I've gotten kills at this range with them...
I remember reading some place that there range was 1000yrd. I could be wrong. If that is the case it would help a bunch.
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I am in agreement with Hblair here, the rockets in reality would be fired from outside the bombers defensive range. I suggest setting the timing such that a launch at 300mph from 1.5k yrds is optimum.
SKurj
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<punt> Anyone have some data on these? I've searched and can't find it. I've found the speed (1200km/h) and the payload (41kg), but can't find a range or timing.
[This message has been edited by LJK Raubvogel (edited 02-05-2001).]
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I seem to remember reading that LW opend fire with these from 1000-1200 meters
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Ok, a squadmate dug this data up.
"...Firing distance up to 1200 m. The rocket engine consisting of 18,4 kg Diglykol-Feststoff (none-liquid), warhead was about 40,8 kg powder..."
"The rocket tube with three guiding rails inside had a length of 130 cm. The rocket was fired by pressing the bomb release button on the stick."
Will keep searching for more.
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[This message has been edited by LJK Raubvogel (edited 02-06-2001).]
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<punt> Also, are we going to get R4M rockets for the 190F-8? They were used for anti-armor and A2A (2 different warheads)
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<punt>
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Maybe we could get this in 1.06? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Here's what I wanna see:
1. About 1300 yard range in a stern chase before they explode.
2. The elevation of the rockets when launched should be such that you can see the target. Ideally you should be able to center the bomber in the bombsight at say 1200 yards (in level flight directly behind the bomber) and have a good chance of a hit.
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i tried using them about 50 times in the TA and didnt get 1 kill
they are useless
with a 40 kg warhead they should do some damage
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Skurj I agree, think these rockets weren't actually designed to be fired at individual bombers although I guess you could. I agree, I think they were intended to brake up bomber formations. They were fired into a combat box to brake it up from what I understand. hblair on wing mounts they were fired at a slight upward angle and lobbed into the formation. There were mounts for some planes with upward firing rockets but I'm not sure if they were the same type.
[This message has been edited by Jimdandy (edited 02-16-2001).]
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Yeah I think in a 1 vs. 1 situation these were not a great weapon. But if you can imagine a whole Staffel making a pass with these on a B-17 box, they were bound to hit at least one bomber.
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Don't forget R4M rockets for 190F-8. Using 2 different warheads, they were employed against armor and aerial targets.
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Originally posted by Zigrat:
i tried using them about 50 times in the TA and didnt get 1 kill
they are useless
with a 40 kg warhead they should do some damage
I used them once in MA and get kill with them. I got message about formation of 3 b17, they were still low. Got rockets, runned. Caught them not very high (about 17k). Was alone against 3, none apparently dammaged. One was bit out of formation, I got alt and virtical dived on it. I fired all rockets with salvo 1 at only 100-200 feet. Was lucky to get kill, though no idea how many of them hit target. Actually, I could get this kill with spit hispanos MUCH more easily, so never tried rockets again. As of now they are useless in a role of air-to-air weapon. Seems that increasing rockets range will help.
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What? Just HO a bomber, at d800 fire the rockets a bit above its nose and dive away. Dead buff (I fire all rockets). Of course theres the problem of the d1.2 range buff guns, but still! *grin*
I love the LW rockets, wish they had more range before they detonated, but they are damn fun (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Now I gotta learn how to aim the 10 rocks in the P-38.. those wont blow until they hit something hehe.
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<punt>
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HT mentioned in the MA the other night that this issue has been addressed and range increased to 1200 yrds, haven't tested, so I dunno if he meant will be in 1.06 or already is adjusted.
SKurj
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Sounds cool to me. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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I will post some info I have for you Luftwaffe rocket fanatics, hopefully later today. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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<punt,cough>R4M<cough>
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Thanks HTC (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Still waiting on R4M/Panzerblitz for 190F8