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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: JAGED on September 22, 2008, 12:04:31 PM
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I got this in an email the other day. Just a little something "to get the debate going!" :aok :devil
George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000 +
5) American's were buying new cars,taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!...
But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE' all right. In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase)
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low... $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS!
Yes, in 2006 America Voted for change... and we sure got it!
Remember, the President has no control over any of these issues, only congress, and what has congress done in the last two year? Absolutely nothing!
Now, the Democratic candidate for President claims he is going to really give us change along with a Democratic congress!
JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?
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The beginning of the home foreclosure problem......
2004.01.20
"President Bush will ask Congress for authority to eliminate the down-payment requirement for Federal Housing Administration loans."
http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/housing/2004-01-20-fha_x.htm
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George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000 +
5) American's were buying new cars,taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!...
1. lie
2. lie, it was $3.20
3. lie
4. lie
5. on loans they now cant pay :aok
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1. lie
2. lie, it was $3.20
3. lie
4. lie
5. on loans they now cant pay :aok
Scream louder. People reading the truth can't hear your mournful wailing.
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Well,
I can't really blame the Dem controled congress, because they have done nothing. Nothing has been fixed or changed.The Rep congress told the Dems what they had to do over the last few years and now it is the other second graders turn to get even. That is all our congress is doing. "It time to get back at what they did to us". That's it, nothing more than second graders up there. McCain will change nothing and Obama will do as the party tells him to do. There will be no reaching accrost to the other side, they will get there hand slaped.
We need a second grade teacher to go there and tell them to sit down, shut up and color.
Mark my words and this thread, you'll see happen who ever is elected.
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I think that email is a prime example of what's wrong with our country. Propaganda, it's fun and educational too.
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2. lie, it was $3.20
Not so. Found this on a CNN cached page just doing a general search.
(CNN) -- Prices jumped nearly 11 cents over the past two weeks to $2.35 for a gallon of regular-grade gasoline, even though the price of crude oil dropped, a national survey said Sunday.
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4. lie
And again, not so...
http://www.the-privateer.com/chart/dow-long.html (http://www.the-privateer.com/chart/dow-long.html)
Read 'em and weep! :aok
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1. lie
2. lie, it was $3.20
3. lie
4. lie
5. on loans they now cant pay :aok
Lets see, in 2005, just 3 years ago, I was confident enough in the economy to buy a new truck. I was also able to fill it up with gas for around $40 because it only around $2.00 a gallon. My property value had gone up every year since 1999 when I bought my 1880 square foot house for less than $100,000. All my mutual funds were doing really well, and taking a summer vacation out to Oklahoma and Texas to visit family was no big strain on the finances. My wife had her pick of well paying jobs to choose from.
My life was pretty darn good.
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5. on loans they now cant pay :aok
Our family paid for our overseas vacation without the assistance of loans. No, we were not rich. No, we cannot try the same trip again.
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3. lie
Not so.
Again, from the US Department of Labor.
Annual average unemployment rate, civilian labor force 16 years and over (percent)
Year Ann Avg
1948 3.8
1949 5.9
1950 5.3
1951 3.3
1952 3.0
1953 2.9
1954 5.5
1955 4.4
1956 4.1
1957 4.3
1958 6.8
1959 5.5
1960 5.5
1961 6.7
1962 5.5
1963 5.7
1964 5.2
1965 4.5
1966 3.8
1967 3.8
1968 3.6
1969 3.5
1970 4.9
1971 5.9
1972 5.6
1973 4.9
1974 5.6
1975 8.5
1976 7.7
1977 7.1
1978 6.1
1979 5.8
1980 7.1
1981 7.6
1982 9.7
1983 9.6
1984 7.5
1985 7.2
1986 7.0
1987 6.2
1988 5.5
1989 5.3
1990 5.6
1991 6.8
1992 7.5
1993 6.9
1994 6.1
1995 5.6
1996 5.4
1997 4.9
1998 4.5
1999 4.2
2000 4.0
2001 4.7
2002 5.8
2003 6.0
2004 5.5
2005 5.1
2006 4.6
2007 4.6
Last Modified Date: June 20, 2008
Here is the link: http://www.bls.gov/cps/prev_yrs.htm
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SERIOUSLY,
Why do people take the face value of forwarded emails. The scourge of the internet(s)! 99% of forwarded emails such as these are garbage if you don't forward them to 7 friends in 5 minutes. Otherwise you get bad luck for 12 years.
I think I find 'Replica Watches' more appealing than this trash...
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Fulmar. If you read on a ways you might have noticed that we basically authenticated the message.
I do agree with you though. Most chain letters are bogus and pumped up with recycled garbage.
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This is the O'Club. You can't bring facts in here. DAMN YOU! :rofl
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http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/rulings/false/
it will soon join this list
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Fulmar. If you read on a ways you might have noticed that we basically authenticated the message.
I do agree with you though. Most chain letters are bogus and pumped up with recycled garbage.
That wasn't the point of my post. People post their email inbox in the O'club a lot more than what it needs to be. Now if the original poster were to take that email and then go through and verify all the claims with sources as you've guys have done here, I have no problem with that and encourage it.
It bothers me that some people may think that whatever comes in their email inbox may be remotely true without thinking about it. I believe about 90% of the department I work in is this nieve.
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Now if the original poster were to take that email and then go through and verify all the claims with sources as you've guys have done here, I have no problem with that and encourage it.
This post was meant in jest and as a parrot to SkyJocks many posts, most of which are submitted without research and backup.
Most of this post is true btw...
So there! :D
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I got this in an email the other day. Just a little something "to get the debate going!" :aok :devil
George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.
A little over one year ago:
1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high
2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon
3) the unemployment rate was 4.5%
4) the DOW JONES hit a record high--14,000 +
5) American's were buying new cars,taking cruises, vacations overseas, living large!...
But American's wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic Congress and yes--we got 'CHANGE' all right. In the PAST YEAR:
1) Consumer confidence has plummeted
2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing!
3) Unemployment is up to 5.5% (a 10% increase)
4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 TRILLION DOLLARS and prices still dropping
5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.
6) as I write, THE DOW is probing another low... $2.5 TRILLION DOLLARS HAS EVAPORATED FROM THEIR STOCKS, BONDS & MUTUAL FUNDS INVESTMENT PORTFOLIOS!
Yes, in 2006 America Voted for change... and we sure got it!
Remember, the President has no control over any of these issues, only congress, and what has congress done in the last two year? Absolutely nothing!
Now, the Democratic candidate for President claims he is going to really give us change along with a Democratic congress!
JUST HOW MUCH MORE 'CHANGE' DO YOU THINK YOU CAN STAND?
Excuse me, but even as bad as this congress is, they already did more in the last two years then the Rep congress did in 6 years under bush. The last congress is also the ones that passed everything Bush wanted that hurt this country and got us where we are now. It's the last congress that did all the damage.
Better to not make decisions that are bad then to make decisions that are bad.
You can blame it all you want on this congress, it the Rep congress who did all the damage, like it or not.
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And again, not so...
http://www.the-privateer.com/chart/dow-long.html (http://www.the-privateer.com/chart/dow-long.html)
Read 'em and weep! :aok
nope, march of '07 dow jones below 12,000 lie! :aok
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Not so.
Again, from the US Department of Labor.
Here is the link: http://www.bls.gov/cps/prev_yrs.htm
he quoted 4.5, I checked and it was 4.6 in 2007, therefore a lie. :aok
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nope, march of '07 dow jones below 12,000 :aok
Hey buddy! Long time no troll... :D
Don't ignore October 2007! :aok
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it the Rep congress who did all the damage, like it or not.
It Wee Willy did it in 1999. It all his fault :aok
http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1999/11/12/banking.reform/index.html
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Hey buddy! Long time no troll... :D
Don't ignore October 2007! :aok
re-read the OP, it said over year ago, that makes it. lie! :aok
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I can't believe that he is going to quibble over .1% LMFAO!!!!!!!!
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Well,
I can't really blame the Dem controled congress, because they have done nothing. Nothing has been fixed or changed.
Yes but the President can veto any legislation that Congress tries to pass...
Lets see, in 2005, just 3 years ago, I was confident enough in the economy to buy a new truck. I was also able to fill it up with gas for around $40 because it only around $2.00 a gallon. My property value had gone up every year since 1999 when I bought my 1880 square foot house for less than $100,000. All my mutual funds were doing really well, and taking a summer vacation out to Oklahoma and Texas to visit family was no big strain on the finances. My wife had her pick of well paying jobs to choose from.
My life was pretty darn good.
This is your life, and it is entirely possible (/quite likely) that this is an isolated example. It is not fair/correct to assume that your family and you represent the entire nation.
Our family paid for our overseas vacation without the assistance of loans. No, we were not rich. No, we cannot try the same trip again.
Again, this is quite likely to be an isolated example.
edit:nvm, made a mistake here
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Yes but the President can veto any legislation that Congress tries to pass...
:lol
Not if he wants support passing something later. It's politics, not a dictatorship. Even if you don't have the current majority, there's dozens and dozens of ways to stall, modify, earmark, or even filibuster any type of legislation.
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A President can veto, but a veto can be over ridden by a 2/3 margin.
His life mirrors that of most. It is NOT isolated.
No that is not an isolated example either.
Yes, your math skills suck, especially for a 16 year old who claims to be educated. An increase from 4.5% to 5.5% is actually damned close to a 25% increase. It's easy to figure out, 1% is almost 1/4 of 4.5%, and as such close to 25%.
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Yes, your math skills suck, especially for a 16 year old who claims to be educated. An increase from 4.5% to 5.5% is actually damned close to a 25% increase. It's easy to figure out, 1% is almost 1/4 of 4.5%, and as such close to 25%.
Yep, point taken, I was thinking about that as a percentage of the entire population, not as a percentage of the previous unemployment figure. I might argue that it's a bit misleading to present the information that way...but that's off topic and useless, so never mind.
I'm going to edit my previous post to get rid of that maths mistake.
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no skycrock.. the difference between 4.5 and 4.6 is not a lie....a "lie" would be like telling everyone you only averaged 30 hours a month flying cartoon airplanes for the last 6 months when you really did more like 44 hours a month average.
lazs
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re-read the OP, it said over year ago, that makes it. lie! :aok
Ok, how about: Under Bush's watch, the Dow at one point closed over 14,000! Lie? :aok
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no skycrock.. the difference between 4.5 and 4.6 is not a lie....a "lie" would be like telling everyone you only averaged 30 hours a month flying cartoon airplanes for the last 6 months when you really did more like 44 hours a month average.
lazs
Now, now... That wouldn't jive with SkyJock's agenda now would it. "Lies I tell you! All lies..." LMFAO :D
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...a "lie" would be like telling everyone you only averaged 30 hours a month flying cartoon airplanes for the last 6 months when you really did more like 44 hours a month average.
lazs
:rofl Lazs,
* I do not do 100 hours a month on this game. I have averaged over the last 6 months around 35 hours a month.
Did you actually go look? :rofl (http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/Skyrock67/anklehump.jpg)
Well, let me count, since I clearly quoted "around 35 hours a month":
Tour 99 - 33
Tour100 - 45
Tour101 - 33
Tour102 - 35
Tour103 - 50
Tour104 - 26
Gestimating about 37 hours average, or "around 35 hours a month"!
Mean = 37
Median = 34
Mode= 33
What a dork you are to have brought that up. :rofl
:aok
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That is still not accurate. I mean geesh!!!! You jump on us for being .1% off on the rate and you average two hours per month more than what you quoted? LMFAO!!!!!!!!
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That is still not accurate. I mean geesh!!!! You jump on us for being .1% off on the rate and you average two hours per month more than what you quoted? LMFAO!!!!!!!!
around
:noid
:devil
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That is still not accurate. I mean geesh!!!! You jump on us for being .1% off on the rate and you average two hours per month more than what you quoted? LMFAO!!!!!!!!
Bwahahaha!
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Bwahahaha!
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around
:noid
:devil
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Hey folks, I think we've all been played... SkyJock is actually...
(http://theliberati.net/quaequamblog/wp-content/comical_ali.jpg)
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I find it amusing that depending on your point of view and political leanings, you can always find "evidence" that the other side is at fault. Present the facts in a certain light and you can find a reason to blame it on something Palin or Bidden said last week or on something George Washington did while in office.
Call me crazy but I hold both parties equally responsible for their involvement in generating the current financial situation.
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http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_electing_a_democratic_congress_in_2006.html
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Call me crazy but I hold both parties equally responsible for their involvement in generating the current financial situation.
It would be fair to say that I hate politicians. I hate them on the left and I hate them on the right. There arent enough in the middle to know enough about to hate. Politicians are in for themselves and their families and cronies. Starting at the city level and going all the way up to the big house. They are crooks! Lawyers and crooks!
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It would be fair to say that I hate politicians. I hate them on the left and I hate them on the right. There arent enough in the middle to know enough about to hate. Politicians are in for themselves and their families and cronies. Starting at the city level and going all the way up to the big house. They are crooks! Lawyers and crooks!
I would add that some are Real estate developers, Lawyers, and crooks, but otherwise, QFT.
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1. lie
2. lie, it was $3.20
3. lie
4. lie
5. on loans they now cant pay :aok
#2 is not a lie, at least here.
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That is still not accurate. I mean geesh!!!! You jump on us for being .1% off on the rate and you average two hours per month more than what you quoted? LMFAO!!!!!!!!
he didn't jump you, he baited you and you bit the hook <shrug>
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Thats right, everyone talk only bad about Bush. I remember going thru this with Reagan.
Be good little robots of The World Leftist Media Collective.
In actuality public opinion is fairly easy to control because Human Beings are only 6 million years removed from the trees.
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It would be fair to say that I hate politicians. I hate them on the left and I hate them on the right. There aren't enough in the middle to know enough about to hate. Politicians are in for themselves and their families and cronies. Starting at the city level and going all the way up to the big house. They are crooks! Lawyers and crooks!
Zactly, so it's safe to assume they all lie, so why act like they don't when a lie is presented? It happens in here a lot,...people claim their camp is puritans and no way they would ever tell a lie. That's what makes this BB so entertaining, watch people scramble to cover the obvious. They ALL lie, not excluding "your" guy.
Stuff like Obama is associated with terrorist is truly idiocy grasping at any straw because of panic their guy may have actually lied. <gasp!>
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LOL! Mr. Facts showed up again.
Ayers is an admitted terrorist. He is also an associate of Obamessiah.
Fact, Jack. Go ahead and scramble to cover the obvious though. You're like watching a cat that shat on a marble floor.
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Yeager was spot on. F im aww!
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LOL! Mr. Facts showed up again.
Ayers is an admitted terrorist. He is also an associate of Obamessiah.
Fact, Jack. Go ahead and scramble to cover the obvious though. You're like watching a cat that shat on a marble floor.
Insanity is repeating and repeating
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Insanity is repeating and repeating
I see that, you keep posting.
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heres a question for ya
Who really give a rat arse??? :aok
k thanks
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skycrock.. why not just lie more to cover?
the last six tours of yours...not counting THIS one because it is not over.
50
35.5
33.5
45.5
33.5
62.5
For an average of 43.5 over the last 6 months.
lazs
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skycrock.. why not just lie more to cover?
the last six tours of yours...not counting THIS one because it is not over.
50
35.5
33.5
45.5
33.5
62.5
For an average of 43.5 over the last 6 months.
lazs
Bwahahah! Busted Yo!
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I see that, you keep posting.
lol
Try an original thought -- I know it hurts sometimes for you, but if you try thinking on your own, you may be able to come up with something really clever to add to the discussion.
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Hey folks, I think we've all been played... SkyJock is actually...
(http://theliberati.net/quaequamblog/wp-content/comical_ali.jpg)
:rofl
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I wonder if any of you that say Ayers is not a terrorist have even bothered to look up his bio. I challenge you to. Especially you Skycrock. Just once go look something up for yourself.
I just found this at Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
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I understand Wikipedia is not the greatest of places, but it mirrors what I have read in the past about this crackpot.
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I wonder if any of you that say Ayers is not a terrorist have even bothered to look up his bio. I challenge you to. Especially you Skycrock. Just once go look something up for yourself.
no one said he wasn't at one time a radical terrorist in the US
I know all my point is.. Obama isn't a terrorist... it is like saying, all the disciples who associated with Judas Iscariot are guilty of his sins.
They sure hung around with him a lot.... must have been a well kept secret plot...
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no one said he wasn't at one time a radical terrorist in the US
I know all my point is.. Obama isn't a terrorist... it is like saying, all the disciples who associated with Judas Iscariot are guilty of his sins.
They sure hung around with him a lot.... must have been a well kept secret plot...
Did the disciples take money from Judas Iscariot?
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Did the disciples take money from Judas Iscariot?
You saying he never helped any of the other disciples in any way?
let it go... it is as goofy as saying McCain was guilty of the Savings and loan fiasco he got investigated for... by your theory he was as guilty as anyone and should have been fined and / or put in jail...because he associated with them
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skycrock.. why not just lie more to cover?
the last six tours of yours...not counting THIS one because it is not over.
50
35.5
33.5
45.5
33.5
62.5
For an average of 43.5 over the last 6 months.
lazs
:rofl You still anklehumping? lil spineless weenie boi? Go polish a gun or something if I threaten your manhood that much. :rofl
As of late, I average around 35 hours a month playing, probably wont make 35 this month. :aok
PS I estimated in my first post, hence the use of "around" 35 a month. Maybe try and polish up on your reading comprehension. :aok
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I wonder if any of you that say Ayers is not a terrorist have even bothered to look up his bio. I challenge you to. Especially you Skycrock. Just once go look something up for yourself.
I just found this at Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
Shut it weak boi, you stand no chance against me, I have never posted anything about Ayers being, or not being a terrorist. :aok I think Ayers is a coward wacko that should be shot, in the head. :aok
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skycrock.. you may or may not have estimated on your first post...
You should have just admitted that you did so but... noooooo you had to go and lie in the second post to defend being wrong/deceptive in the first.
see.. the way this works.. when you find yourself in a hole.. the first rule is.. stop digging.
Now.. in the context of this thread.. you got all huffy because someone said 4.5 and it was really 4.6 like they had tried to con a nun into bed or sumthin.. yet.. as was shown.. well..
I don't really blame you or even expect anything more from you .. I just figure that you are so out there that you really do believe all the drivel you spout at this point...
But as Toad put so well....
I weep for the children you teach.
The only good that you do.. the sevice you provide.. is a counter to all the commercials that teachers run pretending to be god like or.. to counter the idiotic crap we hear from teachers about how hard they work for nothing.
You are the poster boy for getting vouchers started in this country.
lazs
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:uhoh
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skycrock.. you may or may not have estimated on your first post...
You should have just admitted that you did so but... noooooo you had to go and lie in the second post to defend being wrong/deceptive in the first.
see.. the way this works.. when you find yourself in a hole.. the first rule is.. stop digging.
Now.. in the context of this thread.. you got all huffy because someone said 4.5 and it was really 4.6 like they had tried to con a nun into bed or sumthin.. yet.. as was shown.. well..
I don't really blame you or even expect anything more from you .. I just figure that you are so out there that you really do believe all the drivel you spout at this point...
But as Toad put so well....
I weep for the children you teach.
The only good that you do.. the sevice you provide.. is a counter to all the commercials that teachers run pretending to be god like or.. to counter the idiotic crap we hear from teachers about how hard they work for nothing.
You are the poster boy for getting vouchers started in this country.
lazs
Quoted For Truth! I hereby award SkyCrock...
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Oh, and see my Sig for more giggles... :rofl :rofl :rofl
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skycrock.. you may or may not have estimated on your first post...
:rofl The fact that I used the word, "around" lets readers know that it is an estimate. I think you are a twit for even worrying about how many hours I play my beloved AH. :aok
You should have just admitted that you did so but... noooooo you had to go and lie in the second post to defend being wrong/deceptive in the first.
:rofl Again, I don't have to admit anything, I stated, "around 35 hours" and I was damn near spot on, even on an estimated guess. I didn't lie in my second post, I looked at the tours that are posted and counted back 6 times, and I was damn close in estimating, from memory, how much I play lately. Stop being an ankle weenie and grow a pair bud, having a bunch of guns won't make your balls grow, you have to man up! :aok
Now.. in the context of this thread.. you got all huffy because someone said 4.5 and it was really 4.6 like they had tried to con a nun into bed or sumthin.. yet.. as was shown.. well..
lazs
:rofl I didn't get huffy at all, I simply did the republican thing, pick at the details while acting oblivious to the overall point of the poster! :aok
Let me give you some advice, get off my ankle, stop you fantasy love affair with me, and ease back into your lil hole and ponder why you hate so many things about life. You are the most whiney, blameful, weak, hate ridden person I have ever read. :aok
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You are the most whiney, blameful, weak, hate ridden person I have ever read. :aok
Crap. I thought I was.
I'll have to try harder.
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