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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Bodhi on September 24, 2008, 04:38:17 PM
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William Ayers: a domestic terrorist and co-founder of the Weathermen, is friends with Obama.
Why won't the media touch on this?
Why is it ok for Obama to be friends with a man (through his own admission) that participated in bombings of the Capital Building, NYC Police Headquarters, and the Pentagon? This same man was a key figure in many of the riots during the '60's.
Obama and Ayers served on the Wood's Fund Board from 1999 to 2002.
Ayers hosted a meet and greet in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood when Obama first ran for Illinois state Senate in 1995.
He even baby sat Obama's children.
Why is this association ok? You liberals seem to think that Obama is a sound decision maker, yet he has made a decision to hang out with a domestic terrorist! That's just beyond hypocritical.
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And why hasn't the guy been arrested yet?
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I was under the impression we weren't supposed to talk about that, or those other things...
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And why hasn't the guy been arrested yet?
He got off on a technicality. Ayers himself admitted to doing the things I listed.
Why is it ok for Obama to have ties to this man, a known terrorist?
Liberal's Reply: Crickets.....
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He got off on a technicality. Ayers himself admitted to doing the things I listed.
Why is it ok for Obama to have ties to this man, a known terrorist?
Liberal's Reply: Crickets.....
He was a liberal domestic terrorist, hell, many of them prolly believe some of what Ayers did, atleast the old ones who know who he is. They don't consider him a terrorist, just a little more left then themselves.
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hypocritical.
Why hypocritical?
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Because NBC or CNN wont put up a thing about it. :confused:
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Let's also not forget that Barack Hussein Osamabama also considered the communist dog Saul Alinsky a mentor and hero, in fact, Alinskys own son says that Osamabama "Learned his lessons well" http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4784 (http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/4784)
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acc. double post
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Lets see. The Obamassiah sits in a church and listens to racial hatred for 20 years and has a terrorist as a friend, yet some want this person to be the POTUS.:rolleyes: Didn't the Obamessiah also say something about a private army?
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Lets see. The Obamassiah sits in a church and listens to racial hatred for 20 years and has a terrorist as a friend, yet some want this person to be the POTUS.:rolleyes: Didn't the Obamessiah also say something about a private army?
I don't know if he said anything about a private army but he wanted a civilian army has strong as the Armed Services. I had a thread on that somewhere. Scary stuff.
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:noid
Okay, now it's time for some people to stick their head in a bucket of ice water. :noid :noid :noid :noid
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Why hypocritical?
The democrats are promoting Obama as someone who can lead and make good decisions.
He chooses to associate with a self-admitted domestic terrorist. Good decision making skills, eh?
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I'm thinking that those who support Obama knowing he is buddies with an unrepentant terrorist just don't care about that. I'm thinking that they don't care that he went to a racist church for 20 years either. I'm left wondering what it is they do care about. All I can think of is they are afraid of guns, the responsiblity of raising their child, and want someone else to pay for their health care. am I missing something?
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I'm thinking that those who support Obama knowing he is buddies with an unrepentant terrorist just don't care about that. I'm thinking that they don't care that he went to a racist church for 20 years either. I'm left wondering what it is they do care about. All I can think of is they are afraid of guns, the responsiblity of raising their child, and want someone else to pay for their health care. am I missing something?
I'm befuddled as well. I mean he wants more taxes, acts so much like a juvenile, and follows the communist manifesto to a T. You think like I do. Have we just gotten to the point where most of the population thinks they are owed a living?!
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No, just the stupid.
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He got off on a technicality. Ayers himself admitted to doing the things I listed.
Why is it ok for Obama to have ties to this man, a known terrorist?
Liberal's Reply: Crickets.....
Why is ok for McCain to have ties to those who caused the market flop? All I see is smoke and mirrors. <shrug>
Define "ties".
You can have ties to someone, doens't mean you are responsable for what they say and do.
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BTW also look up the association McCain has with a perso\people within his camp named Rick Davis. You want to get pissed, this should do it.
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Animal if you follow the threads of allegations, its liberal blogs trying to create an issue to force Davis to resigne or McCaine to remove him while forceing McCaine into damage control mode. The New York Times reporters who have realeased a peice on this are essentialy saying since the Liberal blog sphere is worked up their version of the truth must be true. If Liberal blogs decided Mother Theresa was in fact Lucifer in drag, not even God giving a prime time interview to clear her name would do any good.
Here is McCaine's statement on this issue:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=post;topic=248049.15;num_replies=17
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One only needs to google this....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five)
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One only needs to google this....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five)
If you want to quote:
After a lengthy investigation, the Senate Ethics Committee determined in 1991 that Alan Cranston, Dennis DeConcini, and Donald Riegle had substantially and improperly interfered with the FHLBB in its investigation of Lincoln Savings. Senators John Glenn and John McCain were cleared of having acted improperly but were criticized for having exercised "poor judgment".
If it's poor judgment is what we are after, than, Obama's ties to a known self admitted domestic terrorist, ties to a church that preaches racism and hatred of white people, and his involvement with inner city Chicago slum lords as their lawyer. Well hell to high water, the guy with a poor judgment almost 20 years ago, who has definitely addressed the current economic crisis head on and is suspending his campaigning is the one I am going with, and that's John McCain.
Mr. Obama is still refusing to drop the debate... perhaps he'd just like to vote as "Present" again.
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If you want to quote:
If it's poor judgment is what we are after, than, Obama's ties to a known self admitted domestic terrorist, ties to a church that preaches racism and hatred of white people, and his involvement with inner city Chicago slum lords as their lawyer. Well hell to high water, the guy with a poor judgment almost 20 years ago, who has definitely addressed the current economic crisis head on and is suspending his campaigning is the one I am going with, and that's John McCain.
Mr. Obama is still refusing to drop the debate... perhaps he'd just like to vote as "Present" again.
Bodhi... with all due respect.... just stop. I know your entire world is going up in a poof of flames today, as McCan't is going down in history as the idiot that he is. Our democratic process does not suspend. It does not yield to the pressure of the world...it rises up and it takes hold of that world. The debates went on when the Iranian hostage crisis was at full bore, and there was much debate about a much larger conflagration brewing with the Reds....and that debate had a sitting president in it. The debates went on after the USS Cole lay gashed open by a terrorist attack, and the rest of the world held its' breath at our restraint. I wonder if Mr. McCain will suspend his presidency, whence falls its' first real test. If this economic problem is really that close to "cratering"....then we all might as well just start eating our money.
The Republicans would have gotten so much more mileage if McCain said.... "I have to go to Washington to address this issue.... Mrs. Palin will continue in my stead, until I return."
YOU DO NOT CANCEL THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
Today, mark my words, is Mr. McCain doing two things.
1) hitting the reset button, because all the battleground states' polls are falling so far south for him, he's almost an "also ran". (dropped 8 points in PA, 5 in Ohio, 11 in Michigan...and is now even in Florida..WTF!!?)
2) Finding a way to cancel the VP debate. After all, you can't cancel a presidential debate.....there has to be 3, so you can "say" who really won in your opinion.... and the fact they've been keeping Palin in a glass box is telling. I wonder how her little "foreign policy school" has been going this week? Her debate with Biden scares the hell out of that campaign. You watch, The VP debate will be offered up to cancellation due to this "crisis".
Your towing of the party line is admirable, if not misplaced. I salute your vigor.... but not your blind position.
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BTW...
Your avatar is exactly how I picture you sir.
:aok
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Animal if you follow the threads of allegations, its liberal blogs trying to create an issue to force Davis to resigne or McCaine to remove him while forceing McCaine into damage control mode. The New York Times reporters who have realeased a peice on this are essentialy saying since the Liberal blog sphere is worked up their version of the truth must be true. If Liberal blogs decided Mother Theresa was in fact Lucifer in drag, not even God giving a prime time interview to clear her name would do any good.
Here is McCaine's statement on this issue:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php?action=post;topic=248049.15;num_replies=17
Here, actually I think McCain was lied to by his own campaign staff. I think that he's telling the truth, he really thinks Davis didn't get paid for lobbying McCain. But, when a republican also says, "yeah, he was paid just last month...." one has to wonder. I think Davis lied to McNugget.... and McNugget is standing valiantly to defend him. Unfortunately, he still got paid..... just to keep access to one Sen. J. McCain.
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Palin interviewed by Katie. Maybe this was the reason for the debate postponement?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbg6hF0nShQ
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People like Ayers are heroes of people like Obama. And you can look forward to him supporting even more of his ilk if elected.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/19/Bill_Ayers_mug_shot.jpg)
Bill Ayers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers)
In 1970 he "went underground" with several associates after the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion, in which Weatherman member Ted Gold, Ayers' close friend Terry Robbins, and Ayers' girlfriend, Oughton, were killed when a nail bomb (an anti-personnel device) they were assembling exploded. Kathy Boudin and Cathy Wilkerson survived the blast. Ayers was not facing criminal charges at the time, but the federal government later filed charges against him.[1]
Ayers participated in the bombings of New York City Police Headquarters in 1970, the United States Capitol building in 1971, and The Pentagon in 1972, as he noted in his 2001 book, Fugitive Days. Because of a water leak caused by the Pentagon bombing, aerial bombardments during the Vietnam War had to be halted for several days. Ayers writes:
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If ayers gets too hot then osamabinbiden will throw him under the bus too. Just like he did his pastor and "mentor" of 20 years.
lazs
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So how is Ayers linked to Obama? Is he helping to run his campaign? Is he serving in an advisory role? If Ayers is a domestic terrorist why isn't he in jail? I read through what the group he ran did but don't understand what they were fighting for or against or why he wasn't taken to court and convicted.
All I've heard is Obama lives in the same neighborhood, they both served on the boards of a couple non-profits, and Ayers hosted a party. Perhaps I will continue looking into it but now I am interested in looking into this as well:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama%E2%80%93Ayers_controversy
Chicago Tribune columnist and editorial board member Steve Chapman suggested that while Obama was "justly criticized for his ties" to Ayers, the coverage of that connection should be matched by equal coverage of John McCain's associating with convicted Watergate burglar Gordon Liddy.[34][35]
Who is Gordon Liddy?
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I doubt that Lazs, Ayers is too important to Obama.
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hell.. you would think his pastor and grand ma would be important to him too.. or even his starving half brother but...
lazs
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Adolph didn`t have too many around him that weren`t totally disposable also.
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Who is Gordon Liddy?
He was part of ther Watergate burglary that got Nixon in so much hot water. Today he's a right-wing talkshow host (and a very entertaining one at that). Although trying to get inside dirt on the dems and therefore trying to influence the general election is bad (bad to get caught, cause I hate to break it to ya, but they all doin' it), he never conspired to blow up buildings and kill people.
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His pastor nor grandma have the connections Ayers does. Ayers is an important player in the Extreme Leftist field.
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Bodhi... with all due respect.... just stop. I know your entire world is going up in a poof of flames today, as McCan't is going down in history as the idiot that he is. Our democratic process does not suspend. It does not yield to the pressure of the world...it rises up and it takes hold of that world. The debates went on when the Iranian hostage crisis was at full bore, and there was much debate about a much larger conflagration brewing with the Reds....and that debate had a sitting president in it. The debates went on after the USS Cole lay gashed open by a terrorist attack, and the rest of the world held its' breath at our restraint. I wonder if Mr. McCain will suspend his presidency, whence falls its' first real test. If this economic problem is really that close to "cratering"....then we all might as well just start eating our money.
The Republicans would have gotten so much more mileage if McCain said.... "I have to go to Washington to address this issue.... Mrs. Palin will continue in my stead, until I return."
YOU DO NOT CANCEL THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.
Today, mark my words, is Mr. McCain doing two things.
1) hitting the reset button, because all the battleground states' polls are falling so far south for him, he's almost an "also ran". (dropped 8 points in PA, 5 in Ohio, 11 in Michigan...and is now even in Florida..WTF!!?)
2) Finding a way to cancel the VP debate. After all, you can't cancel a presidential debate.....there has to be 3, so you can "say" who really won in your opinion.... and the fact they've been keeping Palin in a glass box is telling. I wonder how her little "foreign policy school" has been going this week? Her debate with Biden scares the hell out of that campaign. You watch, The VP debate will be offered up to cancellation due to this "crisis".
Your towing of the party line is admirable, if not misplaced. I salute your vigor.... but not your blind position.
All your posturing and BS verbosity isn't changing the fact that you are beyond a clue. My world is far from going up in flames. You and your liberal ilk though are. You people can not accept the FACT that your empty suit is nothing more than an imbecile with a past of nothing but poor decision after poor decision.
You call McCain an idiot, yet it is actually McCain that is putting the people of this country first. Obama is concerned about a freaking debate and his percentages. Who is the real idiot? The one that is concerned about the country, or the one that is concerned about his candidacy?
You say that McCain suspending his campaign to work on a critical issue is putting the democratic process on hold? I say you are a fool. The democratic process is not all about running around campaigning, it's actually doing the job they were elected to do, which is legislate and solve our countries problems. Comparing McCain's decision to stop campaigning and work in congress to fix the issue to campaigning during the Iran Hostage crisis, the Cole, and the Cold War further shows you are out of touch with reality. You understand the difference? The President was the one dealing with those issues, and for the most part, his staff. Neither McCain or Obama is the President. They are however both US Senators. They are a part of this bail out plan and how it will be drawn up. They need to be there.
Palin is not McCain, she need not debate with Obama. She is for the record still on the campaign trail and is appearing at Centennial Airport this Saturday. So, if you are suggesting that she stand up and become McCain, she isn't the Presidential candidate, she is the VP candidate. Truthfully, you wouldn't want her to debate with Obama, because she'd tear him a new one. When she gets together with Biden, she WILL tear his ignorant arse a new one.
Get a grip, and realize that your party and liberal ideas are downright out of touch with the reality of today.
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BTW...
Your avatar is exactly how I picture you sir.
:aok
You're view of me means absolutely nothing to me.
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Fact is, between Osamabamas racist, marxist church he attended for TWENTY YEARS and his association with a communist terrorist (Ayers) and being a student of the communist agitator Saul Alinsky - it doesn't take a brick over the head to realize what he is. 6.25% Black, 43.75% Arab, 50% White and 100% RED!
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his avatar was a feature of the last meme craze. The one following those annoying cat pictures with horribly annoying spelling like "kan iz havz cheezburger?
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b184/speedy420/OB-AO894_walrus_20070824192931.jpg)
He loves his bucket
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One only needs to google this....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keating_Five)
Yes, we've seen it over and over again. You done showing us this? No one ever even proved McCain did anything, and he isn't scared to hide it unlike Obama.
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Yes, we've seen it over and over again. You done showing us this? No one ever even proved McCain did anything, and he isn't scared to hide it unlike Obama.
That's the key that the liberal media will not address. Obama may not support Ayers's actions, but he did associate with him.
Add Wright, and his wife's racist manifesto.... WOW
I still can not believe people still support him.
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still no answer, eh Moray?
I take it by your silence, that you agree with my reply to you.
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The democrats are promoting Obama as someone who can lead and make good decisions.
He chooses to associate with a self-admitted domestic terrorist. Good decision making skills, eh?
He cannot make a decision, which will come out in the debates. It seems
Obama votes present on most votes. Watch what happens when he starts his" I didn't
vote for that" bull. And hopefully McCain will say"We know you couldn't make a decision
on any issues"
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He cannot make a decision, which will come out in the debates. It seems
Obama votes present on most votes. Watch what happens when he starts his" I didn't
vote for that" bull. And hopefully McCain will say"We know you couldn't make a decision
on any issues"
If the debates are anything like I think they will be, Obama will have access to some sort of teleprompter. He will also delay on his answer with something like "Well, you see Senator McCain, the answer to that question is very complex", while some wizkid in the back types up an answer.