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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: FX1 on September 25, 2008, 07:07:12 PM
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http://www.arsenalinc.com/slr106fr.htm
I am starting to like the idea of a new steel in my gun safe..
last week i did a inventory of my safe and couldn't believe the amount of ammo and old guns that i don't shoot. I needed to lay them all out and made me think.
Sale one or two revolvers and fund a new long gun.
Beverly said that she was kinda shocked when she walked into the room when everything was out on the floor. I ushered her that her father had a better collection than me.
She doesn't know i also have a safe at the ranch. Mostly shotguns and rifles that are air looms. She does knows the value of a gun. Its really nice because when i purchase a new one she understand that it retains it value unlike a pair of shoes. Makes it easier for me when i walk in the door with a new box...
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You could get a Polish Tantal for nearly half of that, it shoots similar but cheaper ammo too.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=111352719
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Do they make it with a full stock? I like to have a cheek rest..
I have dies and brass for .223
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You could probably replace that one with a real Butt Stock, you may be able to find one with a plastic one similar to the one you posted.
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Here is your rifle cheaper at gunbroker.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=111348039
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tru
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My gun fires foam darts. :cool:
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mouse gun. pffffft.
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FX1, the only advice I can give you is to get something that you know is likely to get banned if Obama 'n co. get in.
In short, anything with evil "Assault Weapon" features.
ie: my latest one:
(http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee246/fpjames/IMG_2088.jpg)
Bushmaster XM15 5.56mm NATO
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purdy mouse gun. ;)
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purdy mouse gun. ;)
Yep... basically a .22 with elevator shoes :)
....and of course an ominous heat seeking barrel shroud!
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I could paint it purple then the evil assault weapon ban wouldn't apply....
That scope mount looks like its rock solid...
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That's nice lookin carbine.. the BM's are effective, light, accurate and dependable. whats yer favorite load?
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From what I understand they cant ban guns that have been purchased today. It would be a nightmare if i went out tomorrow and purchased this rifle and next year someone knock on my door and asked to have it back.
That scope mount looks like its rock solid...
Well, my own opinion is that they could only get away with banning "from this day forward" like they did with the Clinton Assault Weapon ban... so get 'em while you can...
Course yeah it's always a gamble...
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That scope mount looks like its rock solid...
It really is - it's a Rock River Arms mount I found at a local gun show this weekend for $60.
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That's nice lookin carbine.. the BM's are effective, light, accurate and dependable. whats yer favorite load?
*Hangs head in shame*
The cheap stuff: Serbian made Monarch .233rem/55GR soft point
I like plinking in volume, and the Bushy loves the stuff. Makes for longer cleanup, but I got more time than money :D
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BTW FX1 - I have a Hungarian SA-85 AK - Bulgarians are the very best, followed closely by Hungarians... at least in my experience (and Romanians are the worst). My Hungarian is shockingly accurate with iron sights.
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*Hangs head in shame*
The cheap stuff: Serbian made Monarch .233rem/55GR soft point
I like plinking in volume, and the Bushy loves the stuff. Makes for longer cleanup, but I got more time than money :D
Nothin to hang yer head about.. 5.56 is cheap and plentiful. I remember when I could get mil surp 7.62x51 fer about a nickel a shot... chewed up tons of the stuff. these days it's about .50-.80 a shot.. when you can find it. Still run the kids thru familiarization and general range practice with the old surplus stuff... I save the hand loads for when I'm using the sub MOA rifles. ;) Besides, if the dookie hits the fan, the kids will be using mil surp till the supplies run out anyway.
BTW, the accuracy requirement for the kids on the battle rifles, opens sights 200 yards, 9" paper plate 80% , scoped, 5" 90% or better. For the carbines, same but 100 yards. They love the 'challenge'.. they earn the steak dinner afterwards. ;) Here's my daughter workin up her lil commie martyr carbine..
(http://www.hangtimes.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/DSCN6521.jpg)
7.62x39 Short Para, modded with stainless bolt and garand type rear sight and tritium front sight. Lethal lil bastage... it's her favorite.
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7.62x39 Short Para, modded with stainless bolt and garand type rear sight and tritium front sight. Lethal lil bastage... it's her favorite.
That's a great pic Hang - what is that ? A Simonov para (aka SKS) ?
I love outdoor ranges - don't ask me why, but they're so much more social than indoor ones... indoors, everyone keeps to themselves... but outdoors, almost every time, people start talking and trading shots, and you're more likely to see a grandpa showing a grandchild how to shoot - and after trading a few shots and stories, you make friends.
If only the anti-gun people knew what they were missing.
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FAL anyone?
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FAL anyone?
Fusil Automatique Leger (French for: Light Automatic Gun). I only shot one once many many years ago in Canada. The Rifle of the Free World... was supposed to be the standard NATO assault rifle in the 50s... All I remember was it was huge and was a pleasure to shoot - although it produced a massive bang.
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FN FAL will probably be my next purchase. Love my Bushmaster AR15 clone, I can always pass off range time as 'practice' too.
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(http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/24194-3/FAL1306.jpg)
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(http://olegvolk.net/gallery/d/24194-3/FAL1306.jpg)
Thats a sexy gun! Shame its French...
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Thats a sexy gun! Shame its French...
And why's that Serenity?
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Thats a sexy gun! Shame its French...
FN's are made in Belgium.....just saying.
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(http://www.hangtimes.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/DSCN6521.jpg)
7.62x39 Short Para, modded with stainless bolt and garand type rear sight and tritium front sight. Lethal lil bastage... it's her favorite.
Did I see that at survivors SKS boards?
I like my SKS collection, working on a PARA or D Model, would love to get my hands one.
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I'm always confused about gun owners and gun purchases. Basically the sole reason for owning a gun is to kill someone (or something) {and yes I love to burn the brass for fun as well...but still}. If you've got your basics covered everything else is just potentially an investment.
Personally
1) Browning hi-power 9mm (this particular one is made/assembled in Belgium) Still one of the best tactical shooters in the world IMO. If its well tuned it will deliver double taps under an inch at combat ranges.
2) Sig 230, Great concealed carry weapon with no safety related issues under stress or concerns about a "hot" {I have zeo concern with a C/L carry but the weapon can catch in draw from a concealed position} (condition one) carry. Slight issues in a tactical setting due to variable trigger pull on your follow up shot....but overall an outstanding defensive carry weapon
3) Mossberg 500 persuader House protection. No greater pucker factor in the world then the sound of somebody racking the slide on a trench gun. Normally the noise alone will clear your house...if not the cruiser certainly will.
4) Ruger Mini-14 (AC556 if you can legally own one) Far and away the best "assualt" rifle you can own or buy as a civilian with plenty of after market options.
5) 10/22 blondie with a match barrel, laser sight and 50 rd clip(s). Amazingly formidable blinker (and combat rifle). Suprisingly lethal at ranges up to 200 yds and capable of a massive output of targeted rounds.
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Damn.. I envy you guys.. I live in Kalifornia where we have democrat "reasonable" gun restrictions so I can't own a lot of fun and useful guns...
I do get to shoot my old M1 garand and such...
Oh well.. at least we have stopped the slaughter here.. You guys have thousands of children killed every day by your machine gun assault rifles while.. here.. we are virtually crime free.
lazs
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Ive got a Frankinstein FAL my uncle made. It was my graduation gift. I think if you buy one new its about 700 and up. Mine was 350 for the parts lol. at 100 yards its just over 1MOA. Its such a smexy rifle.
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Damn.. I envy you guys.. I live in Kalifornia where we have democrat "reasonable" gun restrictions so I can't own a lot of fun and useful guns..
Come to West Virginia, Get some Cheap Land and have some fun.
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Its such a smexy rifle.
Lol
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Ive got a Frankinstein FAL my uncle made. It was my graduation gift. I think if you buy one new its about 700 and up. Mine was 350 for the parts lol. at 100 yards its just over 1MOA. Its such a smexy rifle.
A LOT more than that now, Pug.. the SA-58 I built 6 years ago for about $475 on an Imbel receiver with DA accessories would sell for $1600 now in a heartbeat. Century Arms versions about $1200. They are much sought after and command high prices.. couldn't have done better in the stock market. ;) Garands and M1A's have jumped too. I still snap up parts, mags, anything that may be of use in the future to support them whenever and wherever I find them.. limited supply, rising demand. Won't be long and the gun grabbers will outlaw the parts, too.
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My Tantal is is great for the price. Make sure to get an Interarms one instead of the Century, as Century has used wrong-twist domestic barrels (for us 5.56) and the 5.54 ammo apparently tends to keyhole after a few rounds. Interarms uses the original polish chrome lined barrel. Quality control has also been an issue in general with Century.
However, Mine does need an adjustment on the front sight block. I have it zeroed but the post is all the way to the right so, more anal retentiveness than anything else, I want to center the block. Might or might not be a big deal to accomplish.
You can also replace the rear stock on a tantal with any standard AK stock if you don't like the folder. The front handguard is a bit different, at least the upper.
Still good value, and great given Russian surplus ammo at $125 per 1080. The after market trigger group is smooth to say the least. Almost a hair trigger and you really have to pay attention to finger discipline on the line. And, virtually NO recoil. .22 LR almost.
Charon
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Try this link:
http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Pea-Shooter
:rofl
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that much Hang? That is crazy... Mine probly wouldnt go for to much. Its a Century Arms receiver, took a good bit of grinding and polishing to get it to where we wanted. The barrel is from some SAm country, its kinda funny cause the blueing is rubbed of on the end from soldiers standing with it at ease or parade rest lol
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*Hangs head in shame*
The cheap stuff: Serbian made Monarch .233rem/55GR soft point
I like plinking in volume, and the Bushy loves the stuff. Makes for longer cleanup, but I got more time than money :D
I use some Serbian made 223 rem/55gr sp in my Savage, it's called Highland over here but judging by the packet I think it gets rebranded around the world (mine has a piccie of a fox on the front). It's quite reasonable ammo. I tried some nasty russian ammo (bernaul, steel cased), gawd it was awful. It fouled the barrel, and the breach -even had a round stick.
So I gave up on the russian stuff and stuck to the serbian. It slaughters rabbits, hares, and goats nicely (potted 3 goats and 3 hares on Friday). I have some Federal 64gr Power Shok for special occasions :)
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I use some Serbian made 223 rem/55gr sp in my Savage, it's called Highland over here but judging by the packet I think it gets rebranded around the world (mine has a piccie of a fox on the front). It's quite reasonable ammo. I tried some nasty russian ammo (bernaul, steel cased), gawd it was awful. It fouled the barrel, and the breach -even had a round stick.
BTW you are correct about the re-branding - I get it at an American chain store called Academy - Monarch is their own brand (ie re-branded Serb or Russian ammo depending on the make & model).
I shot more this weekend, and was truly impressed with the accuracy - with my Bushy AR-15 (with Explore Optics scope - new local company located nearby in Flower Mound Texas), I was able to literally shoot a dime sized bullseye consistently at 100 yards (I think 20+ out of 30 touched the edge of the "dime"). the other 8 where within 2 inches, and 1 or 2 were about 4 inches away. I'm not that great a shot a general, so chalk up the less than perfect shots to me and not the ammo. BTW the ammo I'm talking about is NOT the green box Monarch .223 FMJ (Russian)- it's the black box .223 Soft Points (Serbian). The former is very cheap steel cases, the latter, higher quality brass.
I have only two knocks against the ammo and accuracy is not one of them:
1) It's a bit dirtier than good stuff - however, just makes for a little more elbow grease when cleaning, which doesn't bother me as it's just more quality time with my rifle :-)
2) The shells extract VERY hot - one stuck on my arm and literally caused a small burn - which tells me not all the powder is finished burning by the time the bullet is gone.
Overall I love the stuff for plinking.