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Title: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Dos Equis on September 26, 2008, 12:27:40 PM
"It just proves his campaign is governed by tactics and not ideology," said Republican consultant Craig Shirley, who advised McCain earlier in this cycle. "In the end, he blinked and looked unsure of himself and Obama did not. The 'steady hand in a storm' argument looks now to more favor Obama, not McCain."  Shirley added, "My guess is that plasma units are rushing to the McCain campaign as we speak to replace the blood flowing there from the fights among the staff."
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: AKIron on September 26, 2008, 12:35:45 PM
They are just too stupid to see the brilliance of his plan. McCain showed that he puts America first and isn't just "on call". You think everyone won't be aware of that during the debates tonight? He played Obama for the fool and Obama obliged. Obama never should have rejected mcCain's call to delay the debates in this time of crisis.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: bongaroo on September 26, 2008, 12:38:22 PM
brilliance of his plan

 :rolleyes:
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: AKIron on September 26, 2008, 12:40:25 PM
:rolleyes:

I didn't expect everyone to see it. Fact is that McCain has outsmarted Obama at every turn. That's a quality to be prized in a president imo.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Donzo on September 26, 2008, 12:41:16 PM
"It just proves his campaign is governed by tactics and not ideology," said Republican consultant Craig Shirley, who advised McCain earlier in this cycle. "In the end, he blinked and looked unsure of himself and Obama did not. The 'steady hand in a storm' argument looks now to more favor Obama, not McCain."  Shirley added, "My guess is that plasma units are rushing to the McCain campaign as we speak to replace the blood flowing there from the fights among the staff."


Link?
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 26, 2008, 12:53:03 PM
"It just proves his campaign is governed by tactics and not ideology," said Republican consultant Craig Shirley, who advised McCain earlier in this cycle. "In the end, he blinked and looked unsure of himself and Obama did not. The 'steady hand in a storm' argument looks now to more favor Obama, not McCain."  Shirley added, "My guess is that plasma units are rushing to the McCain campaign as we speak to replace the blood flowing there from the fights among the staff."

And just what exactly did Obama do to strengthen his position other then sit there and nod his head in agreement with his party?

Did he contribute anything constructive?


GOP is probobly upset McCain isnt following in pure lockstep with his parties traditional goose step.

Which if thats the case I salute him. He's earned some of my respect.
Too bad Obama doesnt have the stones to stand up to his party. but feels more comfortable playing the puppet to his parties puppeteer.
Or he would earn some too.


One thing is clear.
Somethign has to be done.
While my first thought is to let em all burn. The potential ramifications are too large to ignore.
Trickle down economics works in both bad times as well as good. Too many innocent people could possibly be decimated by non action.


The question is.
what?
None of the ideas I've seen are terrible ones.
The "on the backs of taxpayers" claims are only partially true.
Im not against the GOP Idea either

I suspect the best soluton would be a hybred between the two.

Problem is most Reps and Dems only see in two opposite colors.

But like it or not. And I admit I dont.
Something has to be done

It like if my neighbor through his stupidity set his house on fire.
Yea I'd think he was a jackarse because he is now putting my home at risk as well.
And because my home is now also at risk. I damn well better help him put it out.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Mojava on September 26, 2008, 12:55:54 PM
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They are just too stupid to see the brilliance of his plan. McCain showed that he puts America first and isn't just "on call". You think everyone won't be aware of that during the debates tonight? He played Obama for the fool and Obama obliged. Obama never should have rejected mcCain's call to delay the debates in this time of crisis.

  And to prove his point, McCain is going to the debate to prove that he isn't going to the debate unless the bailout is a done deal. Brilliant :D
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: bongaroo on September 26, 2008, 12:56:49 PM

GOP is probobly upset McCain isnt following in pure lockstep with his parties traditional goose step.


Umm...McCain is working with Bush to get "rebellious" republicans in line under the bail out.  So...I think you might want to rethink the way you are portraying McCain with a statement like this.

-linky-

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/PersonalFinance/comments?type=story&id=5891721 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/PersonalFinance/comments?type=story&id=5891721)
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: AKIron on September 26, 2008, 01:05:12 PM
  And to prove his point, McCain is going to the debate to prove that he isn't going to the debate unless the bailout is a done deal. Brilliant :D

As I mentioned in another thread, he may have been instrumental in stopping a disaster from being rushed through. No bailout plan is better than a bad one imo. Unlike Obama, he took the time to find out what was going on and acted like a leader. How can you consider Obama a leader when he "defers to his seniors" in this crisis?
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: JAGED on September 26, 2008, 01:06:56 PM
(http://poliology.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/dosx.jpg)
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Mojava on September 26, 2008, 01:11:58 PM
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At the bipartisan White House meeting that Mr. McCain had called for a day earlier, he sat silently for more than 40 minutes, more observer than leader, and then offered only a vague sense of where he stood, said people in the meeting.

...

Still, by nightfall, the day provided the younger and less experienced Mr. Obama an opportunity to, in effect, shift roles with Mr. McCain. For a moment, at least, it was Mr. Obama presenting himself as the old hand at consensus building, and as the real face of bipartisan politics.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Yeager on September 26, 2008, 01:13:39 PM
should be interesting debate tonight.  McCain has trouble simply expressing himself and Obama expresses himself simply too much.  If I get past the first ten minutes then McCain will be the next President, if not..... the TV is off.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: AKIron on September 26, 2008, 01:14:23 PM


Who were those people in the meeting saying McCain was vague?

I undertand the White House meeting was very heated.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Kaw1000 on September 26, 2008, 01:27:48 PM
"Sticks and stones may break my bones"

Again the liberal mindset.  pathetic
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Stringer on September 26, 2008, 01:37:08 PM
"Sticks and stones may break my bones"

Again the liberal mindset.  pathetic

It is GOP advisors doing the name-calling on McCain.......
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Mojava on September 26, 2008, 01:38:43 PM
 Check out Huckabee hammering McCain ouch..http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/mccain-made-huge-mistake-huckabee-says/ (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/09/26/mccain-made-huge-mistake-huckabee-says/)
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Yeager on September 26, 2008, 01:46:39 PM
Hammerin Huckabee Finn?
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Yeager on September 26, 2008, 01:47:31 PM
It is GOP advisors doing the name-calling on McCain.......
I thought McCain was a maverick?  wtf  ;)
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Mojava on September 26, 2008, 01:53:34 PM
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Hammerin Huckabee Finn?

  LOL your on a roll!! :aok
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: bustr on September 26, 2008, 01:56:09 PM
Dos,

Tell your audience the whole truth not the Liberal deceptive truth....

Craig Shirley is getting even with McCain. McCain fired him in May.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10394.html

McCain adviser ousted in conflict uproar
By BEN SMITH | 5/15/08 7:56 PM EST Updated: 5/16/08 9:39 AM EST       
 
Shirley’s firm, Shirley & Bannister Associates, was paid more than $22,000 by McCain for work this February and March to win conservative support.
 
John McCain's campaign asked a prominent Republican consultant, Craig Shirley, to leave his official campaign role Thursday after a Politico inquiry about Shirley's dual role consulting for the campaign and for an independent 527 group opposing the Democratic presidential candidates. The campaign also released a new conflict-of-interest policy barring such arrangements.

Shirley, a conservative public relations veteran, doubled as a consultant to McCain and to Stop Her Now, a 527 group barred from coordinating its activities with presidential campaigns. He is not currently on the McCain campaign’s payroll but will also step down from his role on McCain’s Virginia Leadership Team said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers.



 
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Dos Equis on September 26, 2008, 03:07:24 PM
Dos,

Tell your audience the whole truth not the Liberal deceptive truth....

Craig Shirley is getting even with McCain. McCain fired him in May.

How do I know what his motivations are? What I know: He's a GOP coach, he's saying McCain is weak, indecisive, and looks foolish. Tantamount to cowardly, no?
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: AKIron on September 26, 2008, 03:15:27 PM
How do I know what his motivations are? What I know: He's a GOP coach, he's saying McCain is weak, indecisive, and looks foolish. Tantamount to cowardly, no?

Kinda like me saying prominent democrats called Obama a girly man because Lieberman says he isn't the man for the job.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Dos Equis on September 26, 2008, 03:19:17 PM
Kinda like me saying prominent democrats called Obama a girly man because Lieberman says he isn't the man for the job.

Well, Lieberman ran as an independant because he lost the Democratic primary to Ned Lemont in Conn. Nobody buys that he is a Democrat anymore. They just don't have the nads to kick him out properly.

Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: AKIron on September 26, 2008, 03:20:00 PM
Well, Lieberman ran as an independant because he lost the Democratic primary to Ned Lemont in Conn. Nobody buys that he is a Democrat anymore. They just don't have the nads to kick him out properly.



Now you get it.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: crockett on September 26, 2008, 04:12:46 PM
It is GOP advisors doing the name-calling on McCain.......

shhh don't run his fun he has to have some reason to make fun of liberals, it's the only thing he ever has to post.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: alskahawk on September 26, 2008, 04:27:24 PM
 The word "Hero" gets thrown around pretty loosely particularly in Washington. Not so with John McCain.  :salute

 I won't vote for him. But calling John McCain a coward is wrong.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: mg1942 on September 26, 2008, 04:32:22 PM
Obama is Columbia-Harvard educated.

no contest.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 26, 2008, 04:33:55 PM
Umm...McCain is working with Bush to get "rebellious" republicans in line under the bail out.  So...I think you might want to rethink the way you are portraying McCain with a statement like this.

-linky-

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/PersonalFinance/comments?type=story&id=5891721 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/PersonalFinance/comments?type=story&id=5891721)

I'll read the link in a min.
Mccain working with Bush.

Is this the same Bush that had a deal the Dems were favorable to?
Isnt this the same deal the Dems were favorable to. that the house republicans arent?

If he is working with Bush then he indeed is not following in his parties goose step.
Because his party is wholeheartedly against it.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: DREDIOCK on September 26, 2008, 04:37:02 PM


Ok and what specifically did Obama do to make himself to look like the hero?
Did he offer anyone who signed on a free Chicago style deep dish pizza? What?
It doesnt say.
That quote was about as vague as I've ever seen
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Dago on September 26, 2008, 07:12:31 PM
Hey XX, don't let the fact that McCains campaign fired this guy a while back make you dubious as to his motives. 

And let the record show you lost credibility points on this one.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: FrodeMk3 on September 26, 2008, 07:26:59 PM
The word "Hero" gets thrown around pretty loosely particularly in Washington. Not so with John McCain.  :salute

 I won't vote for him. But calling John McCain a coward is wrong.

"Swiftboating" their own candidate? I don't really think that's what they are up to. They're probably just forcing McCain to go along with them-as a senator, not as a candidate. They want him to help them oppose the Bill that Bush want's; His help will really help them block it.
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: lazs2 on September 27, 2008, 10:33:46 AM
What I think is funny is all the posturing that osamabinbiden did on saying how important it was for America to hear the candidates debate because we needed to hear how they felt on the mess "more now than ever" and then...

They both danced around the subject without saying a damn thing..  osama even more than Mccain.

Nothing was said at the debates that either of them hasn't said lately after refining it with 3 years of stumping for pres.

lazs
Title: Re: GOP advisors declare McCain a coward.
Post by: Dago on September 27, 2008, 12:43:15 PM
What I think is funny is all the posturing that osamabinbiden did on saying how important it was for America to hear the candidates debate because we needed to hear how they felt on the mess "more now than ever" and then...

They both danced around the subject without saying a damn thing..  osama even more than Mccain.

Nothing was said at the debates that either of them hasn't said lately after refining it with 3 years of stumping for pres.

lazs

Obama rarely answered a single question, he was only slightly better than that arrogant twit John Kerry, who always answered "I  have a plan", but never explained what a single one of his plans entailed.  Yet the demodummies loved the phony, now they love the new version of the phony.