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Title: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Denholm on September 30, 2008, 10:52:23 AM
I'm going to ask for it again, since Kev brought it to my attention.

Thats actually part of the 'problem'.
Many of us old vets have perkies to burn.
Maybe an idea that perks reset each tour, as well as scores. Grabbing the umbrella!!!!!
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 30, 2008, 10:53:24 AM
+1
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: waystin2 on September 30, 2008, 11:47:07 AM
Two enthusiastic Thumbs up!!! :aok :aok
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Chalenge on September 30, 2008, 12:06:39 PM
Bad idea because the noobs that have saved for MONTHS just to fly their first 262 would give up.
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Krusty on September 30, 2008, 12:12:19 PM
Frankly this only helps those players of this game which have no lives.

I barely get to fly 2-3 hours a week in the MAs. I've just recently used the new name change feature and lost my thousands of perks accrued from past years.

However I still don't have enough for a 262 after a couple of weeks playing.

So I say "no" to wiping perks unless you get a baseline allowance every time. I (and MANY others with busy lives) just don't have the time to rake them in like I used to.
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: uptown on September 30, 2008, 12:13:53 PM
i'm for it  :salute

   edit:after reading your post Krusty, you do have a point there
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Allen Rune on September 30, 2008, 12:22:01 PM
Unfortunately with the frame rate I have in the MAs I'm lucky to get 10 perks a tour, so I wouldn't like this.
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Ack-Ack on September 30, 2008, 12:30:42 PM
Removing perks is not going to improve the game play, quit deluding yourselves into thinking it will.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Amsoil21 on September 30, 2008, 12:38:09 PM
yer i agree what diference will it make
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: SmokinLoon on September 30, 2008, 02:32:08 PM
I wouldnt mind a complete reset of perks.

Fewer "l337" planes would be used because more people would be flying the higher ENY planes to earn more perk points.

May I suggest that everyone gets X amount of points to play with at the start of each tour to help boost their chance of being able to use that perk plane they've always wanted to play with (X = 100?).  Also, on that note, it would be nice to have some type of sliding bonus feature for those who play little vs those who pay a lot.  Those who pay their $15 a month but are only allowed 10 hours a month should be able to earn a higher % on perk points than those who play hundreds of hours a month.  Dont ask me to give an example of a formula, I just suggested the idea.  :)
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Denholm on September 30, 2008, 02:38:04 PM
Frankly this only helps those players of this game which have no lives.

I barely get to fly 2-3 hours a week in the MAs. I've just recently used the new name change feature and lost my thousands of perks accrued from past years.

However I still don't have enough for a 262 after a couple of weeks playing.

So I say "no" to wiping perks unless you get a baseline allowance every time. I (and MANY others with busy lives) just don't have the time to rake them in like I used to.
Didn't consider that. I do agree with you there, though.
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: stodd on September 30, 2008, 04:17:54 PM
I dont like that idea. (we need a thumbs down w/frowny face smiley.)
                                               ^^
                                                :aok
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: PFactorDave on September 30, 2008, 04:35:04 PM
Frankly this only helps those players of this game which have no lives.

I barely get to fly 2-3 hours a week in the MAs. I've just recently used the new name change feature and lost my thousands of perks accrued from past years.

However I still don't have enough for a 262 after a couple of weeks playing.

So I say "no" to wiping perks unless you get a baseline allowance every time. I (and MANY others with busy lives) just don't have the time to rake them in like I used to.

Good point.

Cap perks at 1000 then.
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Anaxogoras on September 30, 2008, 04:49:50 PM
Good point.

Cap perks at 1000 then.

Now that's another interesting idea.
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: NEARY on September 30, 2008, 04:55:45 PM
NObad idea
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Oleg on October 01, 2008, 06:55:29 AM
Do you ready to see arenas full of perked planes at the end of month? And do you really want it?  :huh

Its very bad idea and it will lead to quite opposite results than somebodys can expect. I.e. more perked planes, not less.
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Vudak on October 01, 2008, 06:58:59 AM
Do you ready to see arenas full of perked planes at the end of month? And do you really want it?  :huh

Its very bad idea and it will lead to quite opposite results than somebodys can expect. I.e. more perked planes, not less.


Yep...

Alslo, where are you guys running into so many perk planes that you're annoyed enough to seriously want them reset each month?  Because I would like to shoot them down :aok
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Bruv119 on October 01, 2008, 07:37:02 AM
big NO.

Why should players who have accumulated thousands of perks by keeping up a Subscription for many years be punished by guys who don't want to put in some hours to earn them.   The guys who chop and change nicks every couple of tours.

Its not as if its hard to get perks either.

Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: BoilerDown on October 02, 2008, 09:59:22 AM
I could see resetting to a max of 400 perks per category at the end of each tour.  That way the 10 flights per tour guy isn't affected.  But the downside is that at the end of each tour, you'll see a hell of a lot of perked aircraft.  That could be fun too, except if you already blew your perk load.

Honestly though I think "forcing" people to use their perks or lose them would result in more perked aircraft being flown than we have now.
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 02, 2008, 01:50:35 PM
All I see is a request from someone to get perks that isn't willing to put forth the effort to gain them.  Pathetic.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: SmokinLoon on October 02, 2008, 02:37:11 PM
All I see is a request from someone to get perks that isn't willing to put forth the effort to gain them.  Pathetic.


ack-ack

Ouch.  No need to be so rough.  Lighten up , Fancis.

I like the cap idea.
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Zazen13 on October 02, 2008, 02:47:38 PM
I've been saving perks for 7 years just so I can fly a Tempest whenever I choose to do so. I would be seriously miffed if my ten of thousands of perks got flushed down the toilet just so those who blow 'em as soon as they get 'em can feel "equal"...Rather than less perk planes, it would actually mean more, lots of people like myself currently save them, but we would not continue to do so if they evaporated at the end of each tour. Those who can make perks quickly and easily would be in nothing but perk planes so they didn't go to waste.

Do you really want almost every good stick in the game flying nothing but perk planes the last half of every tour? Be careful what you wish for, you might actually get it... ;)
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Relorian on October 02, 2008, 03:50:37 PM
If the idea of Perks is to keep "Elite" planes out of the air, then why would you be allowed to accumulate enough points to "Fly a Typhoon" when ever you want?  Doesnt that defeat the role of the perk?

Im not for resetting them back to 0 each month, but there needs to be some kind of cap placed so that players who have been here for years still have to worry about their perks being used up/earning more and having it mean something. 

And before any of you say it, Im not a noob and have been around for a bit of time (enough time to earn enough perks in the areas i care to play to have the ability to fly what i want when i want... thus helping defeat the perk system)
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Zazen13 on October 02, 2008, 04:17:14 PM
If the idea of Perks is to keep "Elite" planes out of the air, then why would you be allowed to accumulate enough points to "Fly a Typhoon" when ever you want?  Doesnt that defeat the role of the perk?


The perk system isn't to keep them from being flown, it's to keep them in moderation to preserve some semblance of gameplay balance. By creating a "perk economy" the game balance is kept. For me to accumulate enough perks to fly my Tempest whenever I please I had to go 7 years without flying perked aircraft at all for the most part. Because I chose to save them up meant for the past 7 years there was one less perk plane lurking about than there would have been otherwise. If those who "bank" them began spending them frivolously they would be depleted in a timeframe proportional to the time it took to accumulate them in the first place. Even though I have relatively infinite perks now I still only fly a Tempest occasionally. You make me reset my perks each tour and I'll be flying my Tempest every single sortie the last 2 weeks of every tour, I promise you.  :aok
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: BnZ on October 02, 2008, 04:38:34 PM
Denholm, Anax, et. al.,

Come not between the dragon and his horde....
(http://images.epilogue.net/users/caitmf1/smaug2.jpg)

Besides, I'm still waiting for the day I can auction the things on Ebay.  :devil
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Murdr on October 02, 2008, 05:37:31 PM
Just last tour there was a players staging kills on their 2nd (family members account) in Mid War so they could fly the 262 almost exclusively in Late War.  I don't think the game needs that kind of behavior, but you'll see more of it if everyone was made to be "perk poor".

Secondly it's just stupid from a business perspective to piss off your loyal customers by taking away a benifit of being a long time loyal customer.
Title: Re: Perks and scores reset each tour
Post by: Scca on October 03, 2008, 10:13:51 AM
Just last tour there was a players staging kills on their 2nd (family members account) in Mid War so they could fly the 262 almost exclusively in Late War.  I don't think the game needs that kind of behavior, but you'll see more of it if everyone was made to be "perk poor".

Secondly it's just stupid from a business perspective to piss off your loyal customers by taking away a benifit of being a long time loyal customer.
Agreed.. 

I would like to suggest another idea.   Bomber perks are useless really with only one perk bomber.  I think bomb and bail dweebs need an incentive.  How about we add a perk bonus to your fighter score IF you land your bombers, as well as your normal bomber perks?  The perks will be assigned just as they are now, but be put towards your fighter score.

As far as comments on perks being easy to get Bruv, many wouldn't agree.  I know you spend lot of time in a Spit V, and are a good stick with many years playing.  Newer players who aren't as skilled find it much harder as they like to fly ENY 5 planes to make up for their lack of skills.

I currently have about 130 perks, and normally fly higher eny planes so I am more challenged.  Once in a while I will take a Spit 16, or an LA up, but I am normally found in a -1 or A1 hog.  When I need perks, I will opt for a 190-A8.  My problem is I usually fight till someone sends me to the tower, and often lose a C-hog or -4 hog.  That's what kills my perks..