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Title: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: fockewulf8 on October 01, 2008, 09:35:51 AM
hi, I have been trying to find that aircraft that "speaks" to me you can say.  Something popped in my head early this morning.  I have had a love of the F-16 for a long time now and I was wondering, "what WW2 fighter has similiar traits/role as the F-16?" (ie medium-small frame, sleek looking, fast, manuverable, great climb rate, interceptor/attack fighter).  I figured I would ask you all being you have a greater scope of knowledge regarding aircraft.  So please what do ya think?  I have been flying the FW 190 A5-A8 and BF 109 G-14/K-4.

Now i know that these are a lot of traits probably not all wrapped up in a single WW2 fighter but I was wondering.  Thanks for your opinions.   :aok
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Karnak on October 01, 2008, 09:39:59 AM
Power constraints mean you're not really going to see a multi-role aircraft like that in WWII.  For multi-role aircraft you need to get bigger for more power.  The best climbing, fast aircraft are the Bf109K-4 and Spitfire Mk XIV and bother are of limited use for ground attack.

The closest to meeting your requirements would probably be the F4U-4.  Don't know how sleek you see it as though.

The P-38 and Mosquito are both sleek and climb pretty well while having multi-role capability, but they aren't all that agile or small.
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Furball on October 01, 2008, 09:44:22 AM
ie medium-small frame, sleek looking, fast, manuverable, great climb rate, interceptor/attack fighter

I think that pretty much sums up the Spitfire XVI.
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 01, 2008, 09:50:07 AM
To me, the WW2 aircraft that looks the most like an F-16 is the P-51D because of the bubble canopy and the radiator.
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Furball on October 01, 2008, 09:52:46 AM
To me, the WW2 aircraft that looks the most like an F-16 is the P-51D because of the bubble canopy and the radiator.

Or the Hawker Typhoon has a very similar 'mouth' and canopy.
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 01, 2008, 10:17:27 AM
Or the Hawker Typhoon has a very similar 'mouth' and canopy.

Even better.
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Angus on October 01, 2008, 10:20:31 AM
Guess the Spit XVI sums it up, and it can carry some ord and packs a punch.
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Jebus on October 01, 2008, 10:27:24 AM
I always thought about posting something like this on here but never got around to it.  The question is what airplanes of WW2 kinda mach up with fighters around this area.

This is what i came up with

WW2    This Area

P47       A-10/F-16
Tornado  Mosquito
P-51     F-15
F6        F-14
F4u      F-18
A-6     TBM
C-47    C-130


I am drawing a blank on the rest of them.  I had a whole list but since I am moving it is pack away.

What do you guys think?


 
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Die Hard on October 01, 2008, 10:38:06 AM
The F-16's characteristics compared to its contemporary adversaries are good speed, good acceleration, good climb, excellent manuverability, but without an anaemic range or ordnance load. I can think of only two aircraft in Aces High that fit that description: The Spitfire range and the Me109 range, with little to chose between them. The big American rides are more in F-4 and F-15 territory.
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Shane on October 01, 2008, 10:46:12 AM
hi, I have been trying to find that aircraft that "speaks" to me you can say.  Something popped in my head early this morning.  I have had a love of the F-16 for a long time now and I was wondering, "what WW2 fighter has similiar traits/role as the F-16?" (ie medium-small frame, sleek looking, fast, manuverable, great climb rate, interceptor/attack fighter).  I figured I would ask you all being you have a greater scope of knowledge regarding aircraft.  So please what do ya think?  I have been flying the FW 190 A5-A8 and BF 109 G-14/K-4.

Now i know that these are a lot of traits probably not all wrapped up in a single WW2 fighter but I was wondering.  Thanks for your opinions.   :aok


going by ftr performance... LA7    if you add ability to carry ord... P-51
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Furball on October 01, 2008, 11:20:59 AM
Jebus, few off the top of my head, modern and modern(ish) comparisons...

British: -

Spitfire - Eurofighter Typhoon
Hurricane - Harrier
Lanc - Vulcan
Typhoon - Tornado
Mosquito - TSR2


American: -

A-20 - F-111
P-47 - F-4 Phantom
B-17 - B-52

Russian: -

LA7 - SU-27
Yak9 - Mig-29
IL2 - SU-25

Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 01, 2008, 11:55:58 AM
P47       A-10/F-16
Tornado  Mosquito
P-51     F-15
F6        F-14
F4u      F-18
A-6     TBM
C-47    C-130

The A-10 is much more comparable to an Il-2 than a P-47, don't you think?
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: fockewulf8 on October 01, 2008, 12:34:12 PM
The F-16's characteristics compared to its contemporary adversaries are good speed, good acceleration, good climb, excellent manuverability, but without an anaemic range or ordnance load. I can think of only two aircraft in Aces High that fit that description: The Spitfire range and the Me109 range, with little to chose between them. The big American rides are more in F-4 and F-15 territory.

you know i was thinking along the same lines as well, more specifically the later models such as the spit xvi (as someone mentioned) or the 109 g14 or k4 (maybe even the g2?).  as i got to think about it, it seemed that my beloved 190 is more of a hybrid between the a-10 and f-16, espically the a8.  i might put my 190 on the shelf for now and try out the 109.  due to a long history in AW as a 190 pilot the thought of flying a spit makes me...squimish lol  :D  nothing against u spittie lovers out there  :salute 

now i just have to figure out which 109 i like, hrmmmm...   :uhoh
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Furball on October 01, 2008, 12:56:15 PM
The A-10 is much more comparable to an Il-2 than a P-47, don't you think?

I thought that too, but it appears he is keeping it with the same country?  IL2 is also very similar to the Su-25 i think.

(http://www.globalaircraft.org/photos/planephotos/su-25_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Jebus on October 01, 2008, 02:09:59 PM
Yes I was furball.   And I never though of the Tornado with the typhoon.  I was thinking because the Tornado prides its self with map of the earth flight it was more of the mossie caliber
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: Furball on October 01, 2008, 05:09:27 PM
Tornado wasnt revolutionary enough to deserve to be compared to the Mossie IMO ;) :D

TSR2 on the other hand...

Shame it was cut due to cost :(

(http://www.spyflight.co.uk/images/JPGS%5CTSR2%5CTSR2-12.jpg)

(http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/8/1/9/0979918.jpg)
Title: Re: Current to WW2 role/fighter comparison question
Post by: AquaShrimp on October 01, 2008, 05:42:21 PM
P-47 should be more akin to F-111, because the 47 is actually a very fast plane.  Same with 111.


F4U should match with F-14 (speed, range, air to air).
F6F should match with F-18 (speed and range).