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Title: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: Mak333 on October 01, 2008, 03:22:52 PM
I'm wondering about this question, because last night I felt somewhat guilty while controlling a CV near an enemy base.  The CV was turned away from the base, I turned it back towards the base to get the guns lined up so we can begin our assault to suppress enemy aircraft.  I got a couple complaints along with a few explosions while the CV was turning.

Why is this?  Is it last second adjustments that cause crashes?  Or is it simply a complaint from fellow countrymen that do not know how to use a little rudder?  Or is it a combination?

I'll add that I do know how, and others know how as well.  But for some reason, it seems like a majority of the community doesn't know how.  Or maybe its just the same people cursing and complaining every time?
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: The Fugitive on October 01, 2008, 03:28:21 PM
Most Im sure use auto take off  and most of those likely never learned HOW to take off. I always thought it would be cool to have a claxon going off just to warn you if you didn't notice right away. I usually notice about when my wing tip comes off  :D
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: VansCrew1 on October 01, 2008, 03:29:54 PM
Yep. Flaps and rudder.
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: Shuffler on October 01, 2008, 03:30:15 PM
You can takeoff and land on a turning CV. If someone is taking off heavy it might get a little dicey. Keep in mind there are many folks who have not practiced taking off and landing on the CV at all. Some have difficulty even in the best situations. It is always good to announce a turn before hand to flag those in the pattern. You might also find someone badly damaged that needs to land before any maneuver of the CV. The only time you might consider turning without warning is if buffs are IB or some other immediate danger to the Group. <S>
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: whiteman on October 01, 2008, 03:32:20 PM
long as I'm not fully loaded or 4 other people are taking off at the same time i can. Landing depends how sharp your turning it and what angle I'm coming in. Only time it's annoying is when I'm almost out of gas and run out trying to line up for my second attempt. I always appreciate people that announce their turning or ask if it's ok to turn it.
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: FTDEEP on October 01, 2008, 04:25:29 PM
the F4 is made for landing on a turning cv. i love landing on turning cvs'.
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: uptown on October 01, 2008, 04:35:56 PM
What Vans said :aok
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: AirFlyer on October 01, 2008, 04:50:12 PM
So long as I notice it and kick off the auto-pilot you can take off while it's turning with a bit of rudder work.
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: BillyD on October 01, 2008, 04:53:07 PM
some of the light aircraft like the seafire and give you a bit of a problem if the carrier is turnin REAL HARD even with all the flappin and rudder you can muster capn. I find most of my problems are gettin sea sick  BARRRF!

another fun note about CV landing, I love when the arrester cable mysteriously flings you like 300 ft off the carrier every now and again in a random direction....need to get that on film one day :) its funny as hell and must look hilarious
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: Spikes on October 01, 2008, 05:04:21 PM
You can get off quite easily, flaps and rudder are key. Don't mind the complaints. Just tell em to do it again. :)
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: RATTFINK on October 01, 2008, 05:10:32 PM
I'm wondering about this question, because last night I felt somewhat guilty while controlling a CV near an enemy base.  The CV was turned away from the base, I turned it back towards the base to get the guns lined up so we can begin our assault to suppress enemy aircraft.  I got a couple complaints along with a few explosions while the CV was turning.

Why is this?  Is it last second adjustments that cause crashes?  Or is it simply a complaint from fellow countrymen that do not know how to use a little rudder?  Or is it a combination?


EASY PEASEY LEMMON SQUEEZY!


Can you land on a CV going the opposite direction of the Carrier?  Or land at the stern under the deck?
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: WWhiskey on October 01, 2008, 07:13:10 PM
with some practice anything is possible
 (http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg229/WWhiskey/lancsoncv.jpg)
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: Latrobe on October 01, 2008, 07:17:58 PM
I find it quite easy to take-off from a turning carrier no matter how hard the Admiral turns it. Just use full flaps, and just enough rudder to keep from hitting the island and not to make your wings hit the deck.
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: kvuo75 on October 01, 2008, 07:36:13 PM
for takeoff, rudder rudder rudder.. maybe flaps, and wep if really heavy... really nothin to it.


you might be somewhat cross-controlled when you get airborne, get up the gear and get coordinated again..



for landing, just predict the turn, extend an imaginary line off the stern, and line up with that. landing is even easier than taking off.




Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: Helm on October 01, 2008, 07:38:10 PM
Take offs can be done .... Landing is pretty easy ...but landing a damaged plane or wounded pilot can be real tuff ....

I'd say it this way....If you are going to take command of a CV you do have a responsibility to the Air Groups and visitors that are using "Her" for home base.  If you are the Captain you have to balance keeping the CV alive with keeping the pilots alive.   If you see somebody taking off, straighten out for a moment (if possible).  If you see somebody landing, straighten out for a moment and help them in (if possible)
  An active Captain is important. This can be pretty fun actually, and it takes  strategy, tactics and quick thinking to be effective.
  What we Don't need is some Captain 12 grids away in a furball, making course changes.  He has no clue what is happening on the deck or in the air over the CV.  So if folks take command of a CV I prefer they stay with their ship until they give up command.


Helm ...out
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 01, 2008, 10:12:18 PM
I think a simple warning announcement so people are ready for the turn is fair enough.
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: Chalenge on October 01, 2008, 11:52:38 PM
Landing is overrated unless you just have to have the perks or sortie points or see your name in the buffer. If I get wounded in a perk ride I ditch it as soon as I can. Better half perks lost then all of them. CVs same deal if its in a tight circle ditch it and resortie. Why waste the time waiting or flying another twelve miles?

There are times though when I will fly another 35 miles and rearm for another sortie. Just depends on your mission objectives.
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: redman555 on October 02, 2008, 12:03:58 AM
i have no problem landing on a CV while turning, even if im in my P-47, i can still land on a turning CV lol

-BigBOBCH
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: Nilsen on October 02, 2008, 01:08:33 AM
Easy.

Ive even landed an A8 on a turning carrier with half the wing missing and I fly with a mouse. Most of the fun (eh crashes) is due to people using autotakeoff on the carrier. When landing on a turning cv its always better to approach slow with the turn and not against it or from dead 6 of the carrier.

Flaps and rudder.
Flaps and rudder.
Flaps and rudder.
Flaps and rudder.
Title: Re: Can you land/take off from a turning CV?
Post by: llama on October 02, 2008, 02:37:08 AM
Its really only a problem when coming in for a landing damaged. If the rudder is shot out then its extremely difficult, and elevators gone makes it tough too.

If you're looking for advice, then i suggest you warn people that the cv is turning, and then maybe announce you'll be straightening it out for a min so folks can land...
-Llama