Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Hangtime on January 21, 2000, 10:51:00 AM
-
<patched in from a previous thread>
It was explained to me once that the scoring system attempts to interpet the results of the action and the system awards 'shotdown by" credit based soley on who 'suffers pilot death' or 'bails' first.
This is good.. to a point. Consider this all too common scenario:
The pilot is still alive; having destroyed an aircraft but from this action got busted up in return, being forced to bail from a severly hurt AC. The pilot bails and while hangin in his chute; realizes he's still quite alive with with the worst yet to come being either a long walk or crummy food to eat for the next year or so.
While he's watchin the enemy buff or fighter; flaming, trailing littles pieces and parts all raining down to the ground he considers how hard he worked to kill it.
Still and all.. he worked that one to a draw anyway and he can consider himself lucky. In the bigger picture; the C47 or buff or pal he's covering is still on his way... he lost his ride; but he's done his bit and is still alive.
He watches the other guy fall and .. and no chute. The other dude; equally without a ride and dead as as moses to boot got the kill!
Now; in 'real life'; even tho you were shot outta your ride; if yah sent the other guy to the showers while you lived ta tell of the bloody buisness yah got credit right?
Further.. assume both pilots bailed and lived. The firsd guy to bail gets "shotdown" now.. odd isn't it? ... seems to me each should get 'shotdown by' system tallys for the other.
Scoring issue? Yah, I think so. What do you guys think.. I mean is this outta line????
Hang
------------------
PALE HORSES
"I looked, and behold; a Pale Horse, and it's riders name was Death, and Hell followed with him" Rev 6.8
-
I'm with you 100% on this subject, it's , how we used to say...PORKED!
------------------
Brian "Ripsnort" Nelson
-Rip1- VF-101 Grim Reapers (RET)
"There is no reason anyone would
want a computer in their home."
Ken Olson, president, chairman and
founder of Digital Equipment Corp.,1977
-
Damn - I seem to be agreeing with everyone to day. Good point Hang. If both have to bail or die within a short period (say 2 mins) both should be awarded a kill and a loss. Even worst is the two kill award or penalty when you attempt to bail and are killed immediately (but not if takes more than a second or so). Besides Kill/Death is not even scored as Kills per times being "you were killed" as the deaths in this calculations are approximately D= (1 x killed) + (.6666 x bailed) + (.3333 x ditched). It is really some kind of Kills/per weighted loss.
-
Its not your kill if nobody witnessed it (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
Its just unconfirmed kill then.
-
I'm with Hang, IMHO seems like a kill's a kill.
-
Give us a hello to pick-up downed pilot !
or a jeep to RTB
-
A kill is a kill.. even if it gets a bit tricky coding this thing so be it. My first step would be to continue streaks no matter what unless you die. Got a three kill sortie and landed? No reason for it to start over. Got hammered but bailed out and lived? Your streak still exists does it not? If this was coded in it would serve two purposes. 1) Greater reality thereby encouraging smart flying. 2) Makes coding of kill credit easier. If you die, anything that you shot before but didn't kill until after your death would not add to your current streak, yet would be credited both on the scorecard and publicly.
A kill is a kill! :)
------------------
Swoosh of the Skeleton Crew
-
I agree with you Hangtime especially in a headon it can be quite frustrating that even when you see your opponents plane loose both wings right in front of ya.. he gets the kill and you get nothing.
And as you mentioned when both planes are going down and the pilots are still alive then the wise pilot is waiting and waiting and waiting untill the display is monitoring your kill, and first then you bail out.. its quite stupid that we are forced to act that way instead of concentrating on giving your opponent a polite "salute" for the fight.
Offcourse we care about our score, I guess thats why there is a public scoreboard..
And offcourse this should be fixed, its stupid to have something that is source to frustrations, when there there is no proper reason for having it, and it is so easy to correct.
------------------
GrinBird
-
What they said..
------------------
Pongo