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Title: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: vonKrimm on October 04, 2008, 02:54:42 PM
TAH-DAH Introducing the SM.82 Marsupiale by Italy!!!
(http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=5101)
http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=5101 (http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=5101)
:pray :pray :pray :pray :pray

Yes, those are paras exiting the side!  Yes, those are bomb bay doors that you see open!


Machinery Three Alfa Romeo 128 RC.18 radial engines rated at 860hp each
Armament 1x12.7mm Scotti machine gun in dorsal turret, 3x7.7mm Breda SAFAT machine guns in ventral and lateral positions, paratroopers and optional 4,000kg of bombs/cargo   :rock
Span 29.68 m
Length 22.90 m
Height 6.00 m
Wing Area 118.60 mē
Weight, Empty 10,550 kg
Weight, Maximum 18,020 kg
Speed, Maximum 347 km/h
Speed, Cruising 250 km/h  :cry
Service Ceiling 6,000 m
Range, Normal 2,100 km
Production, 700-750

Okay, the speed blows, but paras & bombs withdefensive guns; too cool!!!
Maybe it should be perked?  :devil
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: glock89 on October 04, 2008, 04:13:10 PM
TAH-DAH Introducing the SM.82 Marsupiale by Italy!!!
(http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=5101)
http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=5101 (http://ww2db.com/image.php?image_id=5101)
:pray :pray :pray :pray :pray

Yes, those are paras exiting the side!  Yes, those are bomb bay doors that you see open!


Machinery Three Alfa Romeo 128 RC.18 radial engines rated at 860hp each
Armament 1x12.7mm Scotti machine gun in dorsal turret, 3x7.7mm Breda SAFAT machine guns in ventral and lateral positions, paratroopers and optional 4,000kg of bombs/cargo   :rock
Span 29.68 m
Length 22.90 m
Height 6.00 m
Wing Area 118.60 mē
Weight, Empty 10,550 kg
Weight, Maximum 18,020 kg
Speed, Maximum 347 km/h
Speed, Cruising 250 km/h  :cry
Service Ceiling 6,000 m
Range, Normal 2,100 km
Production, 700-750

Okay, the speed blows, but paras & bombs withdefensive guns; too cool!!!
Maybe it should be perked?  :devil
Sm.79 Sm.82 G.50 Cr.42
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: Iron_Cross on October 04, 2008, 04:17:03 PM
Sm.79 Sm.82 G.50 Cr.42

Agreed!   :aok
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: **CLONE155** on October 04, 2008, 05:55:59 PM
how many troops can it carry?
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: Spikes on October 04, 2008, 06:17:59 PM
how many troops can it carry?
Ditto, that's the key here.
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: vonKrimm on October 04, 2008, 10:41:48 PM
how many troops can it carry?

Ditto, that's the key here.

At least 30 without bombs (irc it is 32 troops & supplies). If 10 troops, then 1500kg of ords; say 3x500kg or 6x250kg; 20 troops, prob. only 1x500kg or 2x250kg bombs.  The SM.82 had two decks, troops in lower deck & cargo above; with bombs the upper deck was removed & troop capacity was reduced.  If 4000kg ords are carried there is no room for troops or supplies.
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: P1Tiger on October 04, 2008, 11:52:37 PM
i like
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: Spikes on October 05, 2008, 08:27:07 AM
I believe HT went ovr this before...if he made a troop carrier with the ability to carry 30 troops, the maproom would have to be upped and 30 troops would have to go in to make the base cap.

Any confirmation?
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: Hap on October 05, 2008, 08:33:37 AM
I suppose they can set it up as they like.  1 troop or 1,000 troops.
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: RipChord929 on October 05, 2008, 08:34:24 AM
Sounds like a great idea to me :aok...
Like the whole SM79 family anyway... Was good plane, thinking
HE111 like, but a little tougher, and extra engine...

Carrying bombs for the last few bldg's, defensive guns, and 20 troops..
I think it might actually have an effect in game as well..
Changes in tactics, add new dimension...

Game needs something new, MA's are gettin kinda stale..

good idea, <S>
RC
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: Bronk on October 05, 2008, 08:34:45 AM
I believe HT went ovr this before...if he made a troop carrier with the ability to carry 30 troops, the maproom would have to be upped and 30 troops would have to go in to make the base cap.

Any confirmation?
Yup that's the gist of it.
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: vonKrimm on October 06, 2008, 09:48:05 AM
I believe HT went ovr this before...if he made a troop carrier with the ability to carry 30 troops, the maproom would have to be upped and 30 troops would have to go in to make the base cap.

Any confirmation?

Yup that's the gist of it.

Piffle & Phooey I say!  HT can make it whatever he wants (for better or worse); HOWEVER if this lovely klunker were brought in & troop cap set at 10, then you could take three bases in one run (on the order of 0.001% chance).  Like I suggested, perk it for the abilities of more than 10 troops, having ords & def. armament.

Make me WANT to fly goonzies!!!
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: Motherland on October 06, 2008, 09:51:43 AM
The C47 could carry 28 troops. 10 troops for capture and 10 troops to drop was a gameplay choice, not based on aircraft limitations.
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: Denholm on October 06, 2008, 10:06:46 AM
...If 10 troops, then 1500kg of ords...
That sounds nice. Makes for a great goon+vulcher.

Johny: I just got bombed!
Teeter: LOL! By what?
Johny: A GOON!
Teeter: n00b.
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: vonKrimm on October 06, 2008, 10:14:33 AM
That sounds nice. Makes for a great goon+vulcher.

Johny: I just got bombed!
Teeter: LOL! By what?
Johny: A GOON!
Teeter: n00b.

But what would actually call it in the game?  can't call it a 'goon' as that belongs to the C-47.  Maybe a SMiley?....

<revised exchange>
Johny: I just got bombed!
Teeter: LOL! By what?
Johny: A  :)!!!
Teeter: n00b.
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: Rockdog on October 06, 2008, 11:13:59 AM
I would suggest it be capped at 10 troops as well.

This would be a great perk plane for support flyers. Not only be able to deliver troops, but also flatten those last couple buildings.

I like it.
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: Denholm on October 06, 2008, 11:30:40 AM
Precisely! Would be very handy. This would be a lovely addition to the game, along with the HE-111. :D
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: BaldEagl on October 06, 2008, 12:38:40 PM
Nope.  Bad idea.  Every undefended V Base would be taken by one guy on one sortie.  Bomb the ack, drop troops, done deal.

[EDIT]  Unless they put star-wars ack on the VB's to compensate.
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: Rockdog on October 06, 2008, 12:47:17 PM
Nope.  Bad idea.  Every undefended V Base would be taken by one guy on one sortie.  Bomb the ack, drop troops, done deal.

Can't still do this in two sorties?. If all you are looking to do is pork fields, someone wil always game the game.  If what ever small load of bombs carried by that plane could be dropped that precisely more power to them, but this too would be easy to fix. Only allow half as many bombs as gun mounts at a vbase. If you are capping troops carried, you might as well cap bombs.

Many times I've flown in a C47 only to have one last building standing. While loitering around waiting for someone to hit it, a stray fighter finds me, or the ack starts to pop and I get shot down with a full compliment of troops.

Bottom line, it would be a fun perk plane if properly balenced (which I'm sure HTC would account for).
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: waystin2 on October 06, 2008, 01:05:16 PM
It kind of looks like a flying refrigerator, but I agree this would be a good addition to the game. :aok
Title: Re: We need this!!! It is different, it is real, it served in numbers...
Post by: vonKrimm on October 06, 2008, 03:45:30 PM
Nope.  Bad idea.  Every undefended V Base would be taken by one guy on one sortie.  Bomb the ack, drop troops, done deal.

[EDIT]  Unless they put star-wars ack on the VB's to compensate.

Always thought the manned ack should be a 20mm quad mount at V-bases; maybe the auto acks could be 40mm Bofors, like on the PT boats?  :rock