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Title: Barracuda
Post by: JimmyC on October 07, 2008, 08:57:16 AM
(http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/ff274/lowerbrook/air_barracuda1.jpg)

Barracuda attack aircraft were the first British aircraft of this type to be constructed entirely of metal, replacing the wood-and-canvas Albacore biplanes that the British Fleet Air Arm employed. They entered service on 10 Jan 1943 and were found with British fleets in both oceans by 1944, participating various missions such as attacking surface vessels and anti-submarine patrols. Although they were originally designed as torpedo bombers, they were more effective as dive bombers due to the fact that the engine lacked the power to proper handle the weight of a torpedo during flight and also that the powerful Youngman flaps doubled as excellent air brakes. As effective dive bombers, they played a critical role in the disabling of battleship Tirpitz on 3 Apr 1944.
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: Denholm on October 07, 2008, 09:27:37 AM
As long as I get my Swordfish to go along with it. :D
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: fullmetalbullet on October 07, 2008, 10:23:16 AM
it was mostly the swordfish that took out the tirpitz speaking of tirpits why not add like german ships to the rooks allied ships to the knights and jap ships to the bishops, and the germans did have a carrier known as the graf zepplin i do believe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin)
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: Denholm on October 07, 2008, 10:29:55 AM
That would, "unbalance" things.
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: fullmetalbullet on October 07, 2008, 10:34:37 AM
well it was worth a shot
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: waystin2 on October 07, 2008, 11:42:43 AM
Would be a good idea for addition to the AH inventory!
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: Karnak on October 07, 2008, 12:41:37 PM
it was mostly the swordfish that took out the tirpitz speaking of tirpits why not add like german ships to the rooks allied ships to the knights and jap ships to the bishops, and the germans did have a carrier known as the graf zepplin i do believe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin)
The only nations to operate fleet carriers in WWII were the USA, Japan and the UK.  Battleship fleet wise the Germans come in behind the UK, USA, Japan, Italy and France, but ahead of the USSR.

In short, if national fleets were to be done they should be US, Japanese and UK.
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: Ack-Ack on October 07, 2008, 12:53:46 PM
it was mostly the swordfish that took out the tirpitz speaking of tirpits why not add like german ships to the rooks allied ships to the knights and jap ships to the bishops, and the germans did have a carrier known as the graf zepplin i do believe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin)

German's didn't have an aircraft carrier, they started to build one but it was never completed.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: Rino on October 07, 2008, 03:40:03 PM
it was mostly the swordfish that took out the tirpitz speaking of tirpits why not add like german ships to the rooks allied ships to the knights and jap ships to the bishops, and the germans did have a carrier known as the graf zepplin i do believe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin)

     It was mostly the Lancasters that took out the Tirpitz, the Swordfish did hit it's sister ship a couple times.
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: vonKrimm on October 07, 2008, 03:56:23 PM
it was mostly the swordfish that took out the tirpitz speaking of tirpits why not add like german ships to the rooks allied ships to the knights and jap ships to the bishops, and the germans did have a carrier known as the graf zepplin i do believe http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_aircraft_carrier_Graf_Zeppelin)
:rolleyes: Wrong-O!  Out of 14 missions to take-out the Tirpitz, only two involved carrier-based and of those two, only one dropped bombs.  Yes, bombs (and some depth charge type ords), no torps at all.  Bonus to the Wrong-O bit; they were Barracudas, not Swordfish.  It was 10k Tallboys (don't you wish we had those  :O ) & 5k Johhny Walkers dropped by Lancs of 9 & 617 squadrons that did Tirpitz in enough to where the KM made her a floating gun platform to protect against an Allied invasion of Norway.


Barracudas
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von Krimm, NDE
Naval Dweeb Extrodinare
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: Greebo on October 08, 2008, 01:32:35 AM
The Barracuda was a underpowered dog of an aircraft that would be a hangar queen in AH. Apart from the Tirpitz raids it saw relatively little use that would transfer to scenarios so why introduce it into AH? A Helldiver or preferably a Judy would be a much better bet for another naval dive bomber. A Firefly would be a better alternative for a British naval aircraft.

BTW the Swordfish and Albacore's airframes were fabric covered but were not made from wood, they were stainless steel spaceframes with aluminium alloy ribs. The first British aluminium stressed skin carrier aircraft wasn't the Barracuda either, it was the Blackburn Skua.
Title: Re: Barracuda
Post by: Lukanian-7 on October 09, 2008, 03:10:03 PM
As I've Said In 3 Other Threads In The Last Day.

We Need The Swordfish!!!!

And Maybe The Bismarck?