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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Mr Blue on October 09, 2008, 10:26:43 PM
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A lot of people would say that the IL2 is the best tank killer now (ive used it and its great.. destroy some tanks with one pass sometimes)..
but if you had to pick one plane besides the IL2 to go out to kill tanks.. what would it be? an why?
is it cuz of the guns, bombs, or what?
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IL2 is a fantastic tank killer, like you have mentioned.
B-25H may use 75mm HE, but it still packs a punch at close range
A20G carries 4,000 pounds of ord in the form of 8 500 pounders. Fantastic tank killer
110G-2 packs some punch with 30mm cannons and 250/500kg bombs.
Mosquito is also an excellent choice with 4 500 pounders. Also packs a big punch with x4 20mm cannons in the nose.
Ju-88 isn't to bad as a tank killer, since it can carry x4 500 kg bombs.
B5N (although regarded by some as waaaaaay to slow) packs a decent punch with x3 250kg bombs (thats close to 1700 or so pounds of bombs). Great perk farmer.
Would probably pick the IL2 or A20G.
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The second best, IMO, and I dont even use it, is the A20. The eight 500lb bombs are devistating. It has plenty of power for the quick climb and plenty of speed to get you to the target (faster than the IL-2 I may add).
My second favorite is a tie between the Hurricane IID with the dual 40mm and the P47D-40 w/ three 500lbs bombs and 10 rockets (why 1/500lb instead 2/1000lb? I feel the extra 1k of weight saved is worth the ever so little loss of blast radius). Once I get the knack of using rockets better, I'm sure teh Fw190F-8 will be my main anti-tank ride. Being able to carry 12 anti-armor rockets is kinda nice.
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Hehehe my next choice in Tank killing is the B5N! I try to get 3 kills with 3 bombs and rearm if I have to, I think its the best dive bomber in the game (diving wise), my record dive is from 23k, full speed and no flaps, and pulled out easily.
Though it is slow, its very agile, and having no forward guns is a disadvantage, so i usually use it to harass fighters if they show up. :P
Its fun chasing planes like Spits with them and them not being able to shake you, though its pretty much growling and shaking a fist at them and thats it :P
You can really tie up fighters sometimes with them, with them trying to shoot you down
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A20 :aok
enough firepower to kill 8 tanks and a bunch of soft-skinned vehicles in one sortie, plus you can mug any fighters who assume you'll be easy meat cus its a bomber ;)
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PBJ-1H (B-25H with the blue skin ;) ). If you know how to use the 75 she can single-ping any tank in the game, and if your aim is good gives you double-digit kill potential without having rearm. Plus the 3k bomb load is nothing to sneeze at, either. Her only real weakness is speed: a wary tanker can get his main gun on you (which IMO needs to be addresses) and Ostwinds and Wirblewinds with anything approaching decent aim are lethal if you don't have someone to draw their fire or if you're unable to knock out his guns before he can sight you in.
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P47.
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F6F-5.
Extremely stable in a dive. Downside is it likes to snap wings if you pull out too hard with ord on-board.
1 GV with each of the 1K bombs + two more GV's with rockets salvo'd at 3.
And the best part... then it turns into a fighter.
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PBJ-1H (B-25H with the blue skin ;) ). If you know how to use the 75 she can single-ping any tank in the game, and if your aim is good gives you double-digit kill potential without having rearm. Plus the 3k bomb load is nothing to sneeze at, either. Her only real weakness is speed: a wary tanker can get his main gun on you (which IMO needs to be addresses) and Ostwinds and Wirblewinds with anything approaching decent aim are lethal if you don't have someone to draw their fire or if you're unable to knock out his guns before he can sight you in.
Otto Carius said they shot down a plane with the main gun on a tiger it is possible.
I like the hurri2D.
I just have to watchout for 68trapr when he is in an il2.
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Ords down and tanks a rolling? No aa gv's? Easy I grab a IID. It can kill any gv in game.
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Hurricane IID
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PBJ-1H (B-25H with the blue skin ;) ). If you know how to use the 75 she can single-ping any tank in the game, and if your aim is good gives you double-digit kill potential without having rearm. Plus the 3k bomb load is nothing to sneeze at, either. Her only real weakness is speed: a wary tanker can get his main gun on you (which IMO needs to be addresses) and Ostwinds and Wirblewinds with anything approaching decent aim are lethal if you don't have someone to draw their fire or if you're unable to knock out his guns before he can sight you in.
How is the best way to use the 75mm vs. a tank?
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How is the best way to use the 75mm vs. a tank?
Like this.http://www.mediafire.com/?ynzmjjfnweh
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Like this.http://www.mediafire.com/?ynzmjjfnweh
Cool, thanks! :aok
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A lot depends on the tank.
Panzers and derivatives you can knock out with a shell right up their tailpipe at close range. Hug the deck and make your approach as square on their back end as possible. I fire at ~200yds. If you hit him solid he'll pop on the first hit.
Tigers I believe the best way is a vertical drop firing straight down into the turret, though you can at least damage his engine with the above method.
T-34s you want to hit him square in the side armor on the left side, near the driver's compartment.
Not sure about Shermans.
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I use the P51D, use 1000's pounders get 2 kills, then go fight :devil :D
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Not sure about Shermans.
Just behind turret vent looking deal.
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In order:
IL2 w/37mm - 100 rounds of pure firepower. Should be perked
B25H - A big lumpy target, but if you get this hunk of junk close enough to a GV it will blow the ever loving s*** out of it. The 6 500lb bombs are also a treat too.
HurriIID - A hard plane to kill GV's with. You only have 32 rounds of ammo, but they are twin 40mm cannons. Watch their recoil as well.
A20G - 8x 500lb bombs, who can go wrong? If you're a decent dive bomber, you can get 8 kills and a couple more with your 8x 50cal MGs.
P38J/L - 2x 1000lb bombs and they are basically as close to YOU as they can get, since they are almost under the cockpit. No need to line up differently to get the bomb to land in the right place. Just dive and release. Rocket situation. With the J, don't bother taking rockets. The L has 10x rockets on wing pylons. These are good for strafing runs on soft(er) GVs like M3s, M8s etc. but can also be used for turreting Wirbles and Ostis. After you're out of ord, you can strafe with 2000 rounds of 50cal and a single 20mm cannon.
Overall:
Ord up: A20G, P38J/L
Ord Down: B25H, Hurri IID
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Like this.http://www.mediafire.com/?ynzmjjfnweh
Heh, where did that come from. ;)
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Heh, where did that come from. ;)
Hehe thanks . :aok
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I like the Typhoon with 2 1000lbers.
Dump the bombs, kill some tanks, and now I'm locked and loaded for some plane to plane action.
(most of the time the action consists of me plummeting to my untimely demise)
The "spanos" are good for killing smaller gvs also.
And if I need to "egress" for any reason, I can do so very swiftly.
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38L with 2 eggs and rockets :aok
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with ord =a20 (still learning the f8)
no ord = hurri D
i use the a20 as a quick base defense against gv's
it climbs, turns, well protected and 6 nose 50's and no ord have suprised many a fighter
(if im just having some fun the f8 is my choice)
the IID is a monster there is nothing like getting a converged shot through the lid of a panzer
and dodging the flying turret in the pullout :t
i tried the il2 was too easy and it doesn't perform in the vertical like the hurri which is how you get the most out of these smaller AT cannons
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i tried the il2 was too easy and it doesn't perform in the vertical like the hurri which is how you get the most out of these smaller AT cannons
37mm<40mm
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i think the a-20 is the best because afer i drop all my bombs which ends up with 6 kills i can dogfight with the planes over tanktown and add somemore kills
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the IID is a monster there is nothing like getting a converged shot through the lid of a panzer
and dodging the flying turret in the pullout :t
i tried the il2 was too easy and it doesn't perform in the vertical like the hurri which is how you get the most out of these smaller AT cannons
I've tried the IID on several occasions . . . to date, exactly one kill (after about 3-4 augers against a guy who was tracked) :cry.
My general suckiness aside, the thing I do NOT like about the IID is that it feels helpless against any enemy aircraft. Perhaps you can get a hit with the 40mms, but with that low ammo load, you will quickly be dead meat. The 4x.303s simply won't get the job done fast enough most of the time. YMMV
The IL-2, otoh, has plenty of ammo and is (now) capable of taking out any GV in the game. Unless someone calls out that there is a Tiger or T-34, I still use the 23mms for their higher ammo level and rate of fire vs. enemy air cons (although the 37mms make a nice, bright orange ball when they hit :t).
I am still amazed at how many people actually will take a HO shot against an IL-2. Makes me smile (almost) every time. Those that are too late in turning away often get raked in the side or underbelly anyway.
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IL-2 with the smaller gun package, the weight of the big guns has me clipping trees. Then a tie between the F6F and the F4U-1D.
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The 190 F-8 is an excellent tank killer if you can be accurate with the rockets. You only need 1 to kill with if you hit the gv properly. My best sortie in one was 5 kills with no rearm. One gv with the 500kg bomb and the other 4 with rockets salvoed at 2. I haven't killed a tiger with the rockets but just about everything else. Panzers pop with a hit to the engine or flush on the side armor. T-34s I have only killed in the engine with rockets.
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the thing I do NOT like about the IID is that it feels helpless against any enemy aircraft. Perhaps you can get a hit with the 40mms, but with that low ammo load, you will quickly be dead meat. The 4x.303s simply won't get the job done fast enough most of the time
unfortunatly like all aircraft of the era you couldn't have it all.
the il2 can dogfight pretty well .... for about 3 turns then you have no E left and you are struggling to keep it airborne.
IMHO the hurri can hold it own a bit better mainly because you have more options because of the superior climbrate etc
i would rate them about equal overall in the hands of a good stick
hurri has climbrate, smaller target, faster and the 40MM out penetrates the 37mm considerably.
its a trade off anything the hurri doesn't have the IL2 has
the main reason i fly hurri is it can swing around alot more when in an almost vertical dive
and rather than doin a run and circling around like in the il2 you can just go vertical after the pullout and do it all over again in a matter of seconds
oh yeah anyone know if we have the normal or the squeezebore vickers S?
The 190 F-8 is an excellent tank killer if you can be accurate with the rockets. You only need 1 to kill with if you hit the gv properly. My best sortie in one was 5 kills with no rearm. One gv with the 500kg bomb and the other 4 with rockets salvoed at 2. I haven't killed a tiger with the rockets but just about everything else. Panzers pop with a hit to the engine or flush on the side armor. T-34s I have only killed in the engine with rockets.
that it is but it would have to be the hardest plane here to master i find im more accurate level @ about 200ft with the rockets i cant hit **** diving and using rockets
i take my hat off to whoever has mastered the f8
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The main problem with the 190 f-8 is the trajectory on the rockets..it stinks. It's not like the American rockets that fly fairly straight once released. The f-8 rockets pretty much have a trajectory that's almost as bad as the b-25h 75mm. Once you learn that though you can be quite lethal. Unfortunately, My attention span prevents me from ever getting good in it...
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B-25H when going up against anything up to and including a Tiger Tank.
the New IL2 is really best for Panzers, it's a lot harder to kill a Sherman or a T-34 with it.
B-25H can kill all of them with only 1 hit.
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YOu can kill Tiggers with the 37mm on IL-2s though just shoot the tops of their turrets :)