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Title: Great Frame 2
Post by: CHAPPY on October 11, 2008, 01:35:48 AM
Had a great time  :salute
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: RATTFINK on October 11, 2008, 01:42:39 AM
Good work Chap <<S>>
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: nikomon on October 11, 2008, 02:23:01 AM
I had a blast!!!!!!!!   :salute







Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Ghosth on October 11, 2008, 08:21:07 AM
Was awesome, until the arena reset. Had 2 kills and was lined up for getting a third!

However I am not complaining, CM's are overworked, and under appreciated. Mistakes happen to the best of us.

<S> CM's
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: shegotya on October 11, 2008, 09:22:53 AM
SheGotYa
22:37:33 Departed from Field #9 in a Bf 110G-2
23:07:49 Destroyed a ship at base #50 
23:08:35 Captured by enemy forces.


Yayyyy only took 5 years for me to sink a ship!! I know it only happened because everyone else hit it hard but, I'll take it!!

<S> JG2 FSO is awesome with you guys!! Great job CHAPPY Rah Rah!!
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Saxman on October 11, 2008, 10:03:16 AM
The carrier has just been free points for the Axis. CV CAP worked exactly as planned but you just blew right past and even when diving the Seafires and F4Fs couldn't catch up again in time.

CM needs to adjust SOMETHING with the CV battle because the CAP has been overmatched to the point of not being fun in the least.
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: CHAPPY on October 11, 2008, 10:14:37 AM
I personally took my squad to the cv. My plan worked great for us.
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Saxman on October 11, 2008, 11:01:56 AM
Which wouldn't have worked quite as well if the CV CAP had access to planes that 110s can't outrun even if they're diving at full power. :p

One group of Seafires stripped off the 109 escorts. Two other squadrons (~15-18 Seafires and F4Fs) had the 110s all to ourselves. We struck from the high forward-port side in a nice position to roll right in on your formation, so we're not even talking about us helplessly watching dots zip by in the distance. Our positioning couldn't have been more perfect. If the 110s had been C-4s it would have been a slaughter if you all tried to hold your ordinance and make a straight run for the CV. Against G2s you may as well have been in Arados.

Carrier hardness and ack needs to be bumped up, because right now the CV CAP is almost not even part of the picture.
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: CHAPPY on October 11, 2008, 11:18:44 AM
My 109 escort (367th) :salute engaged your spits, and when i saw you guys we went full power and dropped to 10 k.
I had almost 40,000 lbs of ordance so making cv harder to kill wouldnt have made much of a difference. :rock
Why where the enemy icons showing at 6k? :huh
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: RSLQK186 on October 11, 2008, 11:34:43 AM
Why where the enemy icons showing at 6k? :huh

Noticed that. Was most likely an oversight in the rush to get the arena back up.
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: RSLQK186 on October 11, 2008, 12:41:57 PM
Was awesome, until the arena reset. Had 2 kills and was lined up for getting a third!

However I am not complaining, CM's are overworked, and under appreciated. Mistakes happen to the best of us.

<S> CM's


Just for the record: I don't believe it is the setup CM's job to test the map to see if a capture will reset it. I saw some fingers pointing at Mystic(most of it in good fun) and I'm not saying that's who you are referring to either.

Capture is a rare element in FSO. And although Tunisia seems familiar, it is really a new map, different from the ones we have seen before. Also the design and objectives may have come from 2 different CMs (not sure about this FSO).

The setup CM just puts up what the designer and controlling(?) CMs ask for.

Note for future:When designing(or altering the design of) an FSO to include a capture, please verify that the map will not reset and make changes as necessary. <- Problem solved :rolleyes:

I think the average for this kind of thing is about every 10 months. Bombers getting bombarded with puffy ack just after TO. An interloper in CV's 5" killing the defenders. It's not always as catastrophic as last night's reset, but be braced for it. Something will go wrong sooner or later.

I think Mystic did a fine job of crisis management.
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: CHAPPY on October 11, 2008, 12:46:56 PM
CM's did great job , and also handled the problem the best way they could for the situation.
 :salute alot of time is taken to make FSO happen by alot of people. :salute
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: 68falcon on October 11, 2008, 01:11:07 PM
It is nice to hear that the time, effort and in this case, the quick reaction to a crisis by Mystic that the CMs are appreciated  :aok
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Damionte on October 11, 2008, 01:30:34 PM
We "The 49th FG" in our 38G's (Which we loath but can still fly farely well.) Had a pretty good time.

We got our escorted bomber groups on target with little disruption. Those interceptors we did run into we managed to run off without losing anyone. Wait scratch that, we lost one bomber droone on the way in.

Bomber got on target while we held the rest at bay, then we heard the fateful words. "We're going around again!" The bomber turned aroudn to make a second pass at the target.

OH MAN !

We still managed to keep most of the 190's and 109's off the bombers during their attack. By the time the heavies were ready to turn home though most of the germans had returned. Fortunately most of them were too low to catch the main bomber formation. They had to be content for the most part with the bomber stragglers.

We lost a few fighters trying to protect or save those stragglers, or diving into groups of climbing german fighters baiting them low and out of the bomber stream. A single P38 diving through a gaggle of 190's or 109's is good for drawing off 5-6 interceptors hungry for a kill. That turned out to be a fair exchange. We were seeing groups of up to a dozen german fighters being tied up by as little as two P38's while the bombers were slipping out the back door.

Was a good frame.

Only real problem we had was that due to having 38g's we couldn't catch anything in order to shoot it down.
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: TUK on October 11, 2008, 01:55:46 PM
 :salute CHAPPY. Was a very exciting slugfest! I also enjoyed the (After- Hours-BAR).  Was fun, to sit down with the other cic and talk strategies.  :salute

Good job with the reset Mystic.  :rock

Last but not least, thank you all of the allied Co's and squads for their help on this Frame 2 event...     :aok
                                                  TUK151
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Saxman on October 11, 2008, 03:50:41 PM
Even if upping the hardness wouldn't help turning the ack up more would. It'd certainly make field defenders happy in the process.
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: FiLtH on October 11, 2008, 09:48:55 PM
  We had a great time. Was non stop action.
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Bino on October 11, 2008, 10:10:06 PM
It was fun!  :aok

Thanks, Mystic, and wtg on the quick recovery from that GV base glitch!  :salute
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Fencer51 on October 12, 2008, 07:51:07 AM
JG11 had a great time.

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/taxi.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/taxi2.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/formedup.jpg)
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: 68falcon on October 12, 2008, 10:57:03 AM
Nice pictures Fencer  :)
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: shreck on October 12, 2008, 12:43:12 PM
HMMM, trying to shoot down B26s while evading 38Gs and spitVs 4 times your number all the while in C202, yeah I'm thinkin not a recipe for good times!
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: TUK on October 12, 2008, 01:19:41 PM
Upped frome hangers Fenc? Very classy. Nice pics....TUK151
PS. Were those the 190's up north at 6? those guys were astronaughts,lol... :rock
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Kermit de frog on October 12, 2008, 01:58:21 PM
wow, great pictures of the JG11!

Inspirational...
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: big-mo on October 13, 2008, 09:23:15 AM

Cool pictures Fencer. 

Here's the Haze going in on the target and fighting our way back out.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/emolbert/Haze/TUNframe2_7.jpg)

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/emolbert/Haze/TUNframe2_6.jpg)

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a144/emolbert/Haze/TUNframe2_11.jpg)

 -Mo
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: CHAPPY on October 13, 2008, 11:07:48 AM
Great screens guys  :aok
 :salute
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Fencer51 on October 13, 2008, 11:22:59 AM
The rest of my AAR report graphics.  Sorry the text is classified.  :lol  :huh :aok  Btw all are 1920x1280 so saveas if you want them.

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/climbout.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/b241.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/b242.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/shamus1.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/trio1.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/trio2.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/akdogg.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/ho.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/stalked.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/shamus39D.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/stalker.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/stalker2.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/stalker3.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/stalker4.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/stalker5.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/stalker6.jpg)

(http://www.51hangar.net/JG11/FSO101008/home.jpg)


That was one heck of a sortie, 6 kills - 3 B-24s, 1 Spit V, 2 P-39s.  I had good wingmen, when you fly JG11 you are never alone.
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: 68falcon on October 13, 2008, 12:37:07 PM
WTG Fencer and great shots also  :aok
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 13, 2008, 12:45:56 PM
Upped frome hangers Fenc? Very classy. Nice pics....TUK151
PS. Were those the 190's up north at 6? those guys were astronaughts,lol... :rock

Yes, that was us. :D  But we were no higher than the Spits that engaged us, I confirmed that with film.
Title: Re: Great Frame 2
Post by: Mystic2 on October 13, 2008, 02:24:42 PM
 :salute to all that were there this past Friday.  The reset situation was one of those rare settings that we dont normally mess with, but now that we are aware of this, it should not happen again.  Thanks again for being patient and good natured about this.  Still looked like it turned out to be a fun event over all. Lookin forward to Frame 3.