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Title: Chute Towering
Post by: TwinBoom on October 12, 2008, 01:52:30 PM
I`d like to see htc disable the chute towering function IMO
would give a guy fighting near a base more of a chance like it was in the old days
"guy bailed had to float down thus taking him outta the fight for a short time".
As it is now kill multiple cons and while your still fighting guy bails towers and quickly re-ups to get
his "revenge kill" i find this somewhat unsporting and frustrating.
For those guys whom don't like waiting to float down....don't get killed  :) Just my 2cents
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Soulyss on October 12, 2008, 02:47:03 PM
Hadn't really thought of it that way before, however in most cases wouldn't that only save a few seconds over the recently defeated opponent just staying with his airplane and riding it to the ground?

Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: 442w30 on October 12, 2008, 03:39:08 PM
I used to ride the chute down but got sick of someone shooting me to get what must be a nice ego boost by shooting the defenseless parachute.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: TwinBoom on October 12, 2008, 03:44:37 PM
Hadn't really thought of it that way before, however in most cases wouldn't that only save a few seconds over the recently defeated opponent just staying with his airplane and riding it to the ground?



how many times have u told yourself if ida had a few seconds more on that con he woulda died
then u coulda focused on the revenge guy :)
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Motherland on October 12, 2008, 03:47:22 PM
Wouldn't help anything, I don't think... you just wouldn't open your chute.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: dkff49 on October 12, 2008, 03:52:01 PM
Wouldn't help anything, I don't think... you just wouldn't open your chute.

I can tell you now, this would be my answer if this wish were implemented.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Soulyss on October 12, 2008, 04:13:29 PM
how many times have u told yourself if ida had a few seconds more on that con he woulda died
then u coulda focused on the revenge guy :)


lol, true. :)
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Saxman on October 12, 2008, 04:27:14 PM
Make chutes automatically deploy after so many feet of free-fall. Problem solved. :D

Would certainly teach the drop-and-bail BUFF dweebs a lesson.  :P
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Anaxogoras on October 12, 2008, 10:04:41 PM
Make chutes automatically deploy after so many feet of free-fall. Problem solved. :D

Would certainly teach the drop-and-bail BUFF dweebs a lesson.  :P

Hehe, I like that.  Make them float down from 20k. :t
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Newman5 on October 12, 2008, 10:57:54 PM
But then people wouldn't even bail.  They would just ride the battered plane into the ground and then re-up.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Saxman on October 12, 2008, 11:01:19 PM
Maybe, but at least they wouldn't be bailing from perfectly good BUFFs as soon as they drop their loads or an enemy fighter comes within 5000 yards of them.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Newman5 on October 12, 2008, 11:05:22 PM
They could still auger...although it's a little more difficult to do in a buff.  But I totally understand the idea.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: dkff49 on October 13, 2008, 01:19:22 AM
They could still auger...although it's a little more difficult to do in a buff.  But I totally understand the idea.

no really they would just nose dive until wings fell off. the rest is easy.

I did this enough times (trying to drop alt) when I first started not realizing that getting too fast would do that.  :rofl
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Ghosth on October 13, 2008, 07:03:59 AM
Used to be that way, this way is better.

No more complaints about chute shooters, etc.

Just back to the tower, grab a new plane and go do it again.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: E25280 on October 13, 2008, 09:23:22 AM
Anything that would cause frustration in the game is not a good idea IMO.  This would certainly cause it for those who want to get in their new airplane quickly.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: TwinBoom on October 13, 2008, 03:14:05 PM
Anything that would cause frustration in the game is not a good idea IMO.  This would certainly cause it for those who want to get in their new airplane quickly.
yeah i guess we must not upset the video arcade players :rolleyes: just let them re-up to maintain their score
and get the revenge kill  real show of sportmanship huh :rolleyes:
i guess I'm from the old school way of playing were sportsmanship and respect were what mattered
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Radener on October 13, 2008, 03:27:37 PM
Im all for it TB, would just suck the few times your at 15- 20k and lose a wing and bail out and pull the rip cord. could be a few hours before terriferma was reached  :aok

TT
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: OSU on October 13, 2008, 03:35:52 PM
If I have to bail out, I just wait till I'm right above the ground. That way no one has enough time to line up a shot on me, and I still survive.
Hehe, I like that.  Make them float down from 20k. :t
:rofl I had to do that in frame 1 of DGS.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: dkff49 on October 13, 2008, 07:01:10 PM
I can already see the string of "kill stealer" complaints streaming now. The best way to defeat such an addition to game would be to ride the wreckage to the ground or water, giving more of an opportunity for the score potatoes to steal your kill.

Most times I bail is for 2 reasons.

1) to get a new plane and get in the air faster (whether it be against same opponent or new one)

2) to allow the killer the best opportunity to get his earned kill and prevent some stealer tard to take it away
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Soulyss on October 13, 2008, 08:35:13 PM
I do miss the mercy pleas from someone who accidentally opened their chute at 10k+ just begging on chl1/200 for someone to come put them out of their misery and get them back to the tower.  :)

Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Newman5 on October 13, 2008, 08:37:24 PM
I do miss the mercy pleas from someone who accidentally opened their chute at 10k+ just begging on chl1/200 for someone to come put them out of their misery and get them back to the tower.  :)




:lol
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Babalonian on October 14, 2008, 03:25:18 PM
I've been out of AHII for a few years, and didn't know about chute towering until I saw this post yesterday.  Thanks to it, I denied two... 'gentlemen' their chute kills last night. :aok 

I like to bail out of my doomed craft and open the chute just high enough to observe the continueing fight going on above for about 30-60 seconds.  But I always hated that sometimes a trigger happy pilot felt it necessary to waste ammo and altitude on me.  Towering after he's dived down and is lineing up his shot on me is great.

I do miss the mercy pleas from someone who accidentally opened their chute at 10k+ just begging on chl1/200 for someone to come put them out of their misery and get them back to the tower.  :)



Those were hilarious (and kind of fun when you got to hunt them down, kill them,  and got generously thanked for it), at first I thought the pistols they've given pilots now were so that the bailed pilot could shoot at planes trying to kill them (self defence) and/or shoot their own chute to fall faster (and get back to the tower faster).  I was disapointed when I learned you can't shoot your own chute.  Still, it's nice to have a pistol now (though I haven't killed anything with it).
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: E25280 on October 14, 2008, 07:49:25 PM
yeah i guess we must not upset the video arcade players :rolleyes: just let them re-up to maintain their score
and get the revenge kill  real show of sportmanship huh :rolleyes:
i guess I'm from the old school way of playing were sportsmanship and respect were what mattered
Really?  It is more "sportsmanlike" to have to float all the way to the ground?  Seriously?


 :rofl :rofl :rofl


It has nothing to do with maintaining scores, revenge killing or anything of the like.  This is a game for recreational purposes, and there is absolutely nothing "fun" about being forced to sit around for 20-30 seconds while your chute floats to the ground if you are not inclined to wait.

Might as well put a spawn timer on the game then, right?  I am sure that would go over well, too?   :rolleyes:

Oh, yeah, and those "arcade players" help pay HTC's bills, so I say, the more of them, the better.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: TwinBoom on October 14, 2008, 08:30:46 PM
get better dont get killed u wont have to float :P

this game used to be about the flying and fight i guess its changed into highscore madness
respectful fighting is gone
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Bronk on October 14, 2008, 08:47:04 PM
get better dont get killed u wont have to float :P

this game used to be about the flying and fight i guess its changed into highscore madness
respectful fighting is gone
TB I have to respectfully disagree. I bail and tower for 2 reasons.
1. It ensures the guy who clipped me gets the kill. Tardlets can't chase me to the ground hoping for a kill steal this way.
2. I get back up faster. I don't have much time for the game as of late. Work issues and home issues.  My play time is short I don't need to be hampered on reupping.   
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Kitt18 on October 15, 2008, 02:32:43 PM
How about a time delay. Sorta like "intentional grounding". If you bail from an undamaged, or slightly damaged plane, you get a 3 or 5 minute "penalty".
Have to wait to re-up.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Kitt18 on October 15, 2008, 02:35:25 PM
How about a time delay. Sorta like "intentional grounding". If you bail from an undamaged, or slightly damaged plane, you get a 3 or 5 minute "penalty".
Have to wait to re-up.



Nevermind, thats just silly.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: devild0gs on November 09, 2008, 11:04:28 PM
2 things.

1) Nothing is more fun when a guy shoots your wing and zoom's off to land it on the ground and than 5-9 minutes later the guy wonder wtf happened I thought I had another kill....

2) if your lucky like me when you chute that you kill the idiot trying 2 get you... happened 3 times once the idiot augered after i shot him... other 2 times I PW'd the due mass and they augered cuz they couldnt pull up from dive
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: uptown on November 10, 2008, 06:20:00 AM
What I hate is when I kill a few guys with my buff guns and they re-up and kill me after I've been shot up and out of ammo. :furious
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: BlauK on November 10, 2008, 07:24:00 AM
Easy solution:

If one wants to tower quickly from a chute, let him die with his .ef
Quicker way to tower, but less points from the sortie. Also worse K/D.

Allow "bailed out succesfully" or "captured" result only when feet touch ground (or water)
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: hubsonfire on November 10, 2008, 08:57:43 AM
I really miss shooting chutes.

"It's not enough just to win; someone else has to lose."

If they want to die and get to the tower quicker, let 'em freefall from five thousand feet, or ride the wreck in. Just my opinion, but if a mob of guys are trying to kill me, I'm not too worried about which hordemonkey gets the kill. <shrug>

<edit> Blau's idea is a good one, IMO.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Delirium on November 10, 2008, 10:05:39 AM
The MA, I will always go for a chute, even if it exposes me to another fighter. Nothing says, "I'm a score monkey" more than when someone bails out. If I can convince just one guy a month that their score isn't worth it, maybe AH will improve.

In a scenario enviornment, I do not shoot at 'floating meatbombs'.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Lusche on November 10, 2008, 10:31:58 AM
Nothing says, "I'm a score monkey" more than when someone bails out. If I can convince just one guy a month that their score isn't worth it, maybe AH will improve.

You can't imagine someone's bailing out for different reasons than simple scoring?
BTW, I'm pretty sure most players bailing do not even know how and to what extend bailing does modify their score and thus rank...
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Tilt on November 10, 2008, 10:44:38 AM
One day it would be nice if a bail initiated an auto sequence where by the pilot opened a canopy or door dragged himself out and then once clear of the ac opened his shoot.

That way a single macro would not enable a successfull bail and tower out from a vert dive 100ft off the deck.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Delirium on November 10, 2008, 12:26:46 PM
You can't imagine someone's bailing out for different reasons than simple scoring?

What other reason is there to bail in the Main Arena?
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Lusche on November 10, 2008, 12:40:48 PM
What other reason is there to bail in the Main Arena?

For me it's my own "realism" or sim-like approach, opposite to a pure gaming or even airquake one. Part of the silly pretending of being a fighter pilot ;).
 I try to win, I try not to get shot down, I try to get home every sortie and I do at least try to save my virtual pilot's "life" by bailing. Heck, I do even bail when having no kills at all, so it doesn't gain me anything.

Bailing itself has a completely negligible influence on my score or rank. In current tour, my succesful bails just "saved" me ~5% of my scorepoints, which in turn make up only 20% of the rank calculation. Had I choosed to ride every plane to the ground, my rank wouldn't have changed at all.


Oh, and sometimes im just hanging there, enjoying the view of a big air battle. And If someone is not bailing over his own town or over a GV battle, I leave him floating in peace :)
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: mechanic on November 10, 2008, 12:46:46 PM
Being back in the fight quickly should be the privelage of those who ride it in, bailing out for your score's sake should cost time and the risk of being shot. It used to be that way.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: dkff49 on November 10, 2008, 03:00:43 PM
Being back in the fight quickly should be the privelage of those who ride it in, bailing out for your score's sake should cost time and the risk of being shot. It used to be that way.

I rarely ever open chute and tower right away. This gets me back to the fight faster than riding it in. This is the only reason I bail. why ride the plane down 5k feet when I can bail and tower in 2-3 seconds. I could care less about score or the bogus idea of only real men ride it in.

I have also bailed out to make sure that the right person receives credit for the kill when someone decides to try and steal it. I only do ths when the fight that happened previously was a good fight.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: Bronk on November 10, 2008, 03:15:48 PM
What other reason is there to bail in the Main Arena?
Well how about so the tardlets cant steal a kill from the guy who actually earned it?

 
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: mechanic on November 10, 2008, 03:35:29 PM
I have also bailed out to make sure that the right person receives credit for the kill when someone decides to try and steal it. I only do ths when the fight that happened previously was a good fight.

that is a good point, i do that also to stop the dweeb who is obviously coming to finish my other wing off.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: E25280 on November 10, 2008, 05:56:04 PM
Also worse K/D.
Bailing already counts as a death for K/D ratios.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: E25280 on November 10, 2008, 05:59:15 PM
What other reason is there to bail in the Main Arena?
Because <enter><enter><enter> "dot" E F gets me in the tower quicker than riding it in.

Plus see Bronk's post.

Plus why do you (or anyone else) care what anyone else does for fun?  Play your way and let them figure their way out for themselves.  If you don't care about rank, why should you care what the rankpotatos do anyway?  Simply the joy of griefing?
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: BlauK on November 11, 2008, 03:05:55 AM
Bailing already counts as a death for K/D ratios.

Then make bailing count less, like a disco is (? I believe) only half a death.
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: mechanic on November 11, 2008, 08:28:05 AM
I think it would be awesome if 1/100 chutes here was packed with dirty laundry :D
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: dkff49 on November 11, 2008, 09:49:59 AM
I think it would be awesome if 1/100 chutes here was packed with dirty laundry :D

that would be funny
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: caldera on November 11, 2008, 10:24:29 AM
Well how about so the tardlets cant steal a kill from the guy who actually earned it?

 

If i get ganged, I feel none of them deserves the kill. That's why i ride it in so the horde can killshoot each other while trying for the steal.  :t
Title: Re: Chute Towering
Post by: PFactorDave on November 11, 2008, 10:27:46 AM
If i get ganged, I feel none of them deserves the kill. That's why i ride it in so the horde can killshoot each other while trying for the steal.  :t

I've been known to do this for this reason also.  Or sometimes I will ride it to the ground if I feel that it was a cheap kill and there is a chance that a friendly will kill my killer before I hit the ground.