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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Yenny on October 15, 2008, 11:41:34 AM
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Hey I fly F/A-18 in RL what do you fly ? :aok
Just kidding !
I acutally logged about 30 hours in Cesna 172 and about 40 hours in cheeroke warrior
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Hey I fly F/A-18 in RL what do you fly ? :aok
biatch!!!
i only get to fly cessnas......172, and 152... on a regular basis anyway. it's all i can afford to rent.
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Whoa... This probably won't end well...
But anyway, most of my logged hours are IN either a Piper Traumahawk or a Cessna 152.
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<--- American Airlines :D
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I didn't know you started pilot training yenny, wtg!
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Whoa... This probably won't end well...
But anyway, most of my logged hours are IN either a Piper Traumahawk or a Cessna 152.
what do you think of the tomohawk? our club may be buying one
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Pff I got my Private lisence when I was 18, straight out of High school =). Still only VR though, don't have enough money to persue more then that !
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You were Navy ROTC? My buddy majored in physics at Cal and is currently flying a block 50 F-16C in Iraq. They don't take dumbies to fly those birds.
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what do you think of the tomohawk? our club may be buying one
Fun little plane... Good low wing trainer. My biggest complaint is the T-tail looks and sounds like it is about to fly apart most of the time. A little disconcerting at times, especially when you are on your first instructed hour of pilot training and that thing gives a nice loud "pop"... Enough to make a nervous new pilot trainee nearly crap his pants. :lol
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Nope I was Army ROTC, but done all that stuff. I'm armor now, so it's all about tank baby!
<------------ like that
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Yeah right, you're in an F-18. Liar, liar, pants on fire! :P
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I dunno why i can't GV in AH though ! I should by trait ! I just hate it lol
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okay fine, I am a marine F/A-18 pilot who just got back from a super short deployment and now at peneceola (omg how do u spell that ?) I'm in the process of transitioning from model E to F.
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Hehe, the only real-life fighter pilot I know is a much more disciplined, harder worker than you are, Yenny! :aok
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F18 pilot? Oh my, you're my hero!
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Nice edit yenny! :lol
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Hehe, the only real-life fighter pilot I know is a much more disciplined, harder worker than you are, Yenny! :aok
Can't you tell? Im doing my part in counter terrorism and fighting the war on terrorist atm. By fighting E-terrorist on forums. Acutally I'm currently working as a gold bar recruiting at an ROTC unit. Which is why I got all freaking day to surf forums ! /wrist
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God you guys are missing the joke here!
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Can't you tell? Im doing my part in counter terrorism and fighting the war on terrorist atm. By fighting E-terrorist on forums. Acutally I'm currently working as a gold bar recruiting at an ROTC unit. Which is why I got all freaking day to surf forums ! /wrist
"Ya kid, if you join the Army... You can wear a cool beret like me and sit around all day posting on a video BBS."
Have you tried that pitch yet? Bet you could fill your monthly quota for sure! ;)
((I got the joke, for the record... Which is why I included the IN within my first post in this thread.))
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I can fold a mean paper airplane and throw it at least 40 feet.
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lol dood I found the best Family Guy Army commercial, and thinking I should put it in as part of my presentation for High School. Check this out:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b5_1176133547
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I flew the hindenburg blimp.
Well, I can't even fly a kite.
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lol dood I found the best Family Guy Army commercial, and thinking I should put it in as part of my presentation for High School. Check this out:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b5_1176133547
LOL!
My favourite part is...
"The Recruiter said that with any luck I can get the clap from a 12 year old Chinese prostitue."
Try that line with your next prospective recruit! :rofl
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"what do you fly in RL?"
A Case W-14 front-end loader, a Euclid haul truck, and a Daewoo forklift. :D
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God you guys are missing the joke here!
I got it when I read "F/A-18". ;)
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Back when I was flying F4u-4's over the Chosin resivoir........ :noid
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(http://www.az-dsl.com/snaphook/Gus4.JPG)
It wasn't the flying that was hard just the landing's. After the last time the SOB broke a bunch of ribs (mine not his) I sold him to somebody with a bit more cowboy left in him. He called me up laughing telling me Gus took off when he let him open up and took him thru a 4 rail fence (wood thank god) {I guess he decided he didnt want to jump it at the last moment and just blew it up}. So I think I'll go back to 172's....never been bucked off one of those yet.
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I got the chance to fly a P51D for my 18th birthday, hell of a plane was very cool.
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Back in the olden days I had my hours mainly in Piper Warrior IIs with a little bit of the Tomohawk thrown in. Warriors were fun. Didn't much like the Tomohawk. This was all while I was in high school. Had to pay for college, got married, had kids. Haven't been able to afford flying anything but cartoons since :)
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Nope I was Army ROTC, but done all that stuff. I'm armor now, so it's all about tank baby!
<------------ like that
Right now, I'm in Army JROTC, and I'm a Second Lt. there, which is an officer. I'm hoping to become a pilot as I've said alot. If not a pilot, at least a Predetor pilot, which in return, is what I'm doing now; sitting looking at a computer screen, and flying for a 8-16 hours at a time. Of course, I don't play 8-16 hours on this game everyday, but I like to take 4 hours out of my life. :)
We will just have to see what turns out. :D
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Whatever I can. Generally cannot affors to log regular time at the moment so I depend on friends to get stick time.
The last two rides were a KR2S and a Piper Cherokee 6
Despite being at best 1/3 the size, the KR was the best fun by a looong margin.
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I got the chance to fly a P51D for my 18th birthday, hell of a plane was very cool.
pics?
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okay fine, I am a marine F/A-18 pilot who just got back from a super short deployment and now at peneceola (omg how do u spell that ?) I'm in the process of transitioning from model E to F.
:lol :lol
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I have a few hundred hours, commercial license with IFR rating (BTW anyone looking for a pilot? :pray).
I have some time in a Citation jet, probably 1000's of hours flying RC and I even have a bunch of hours paragliding.
However this summer I found a new addiction that has taken over my life. It is all I can think about. In my mind it is the most pure form of soaring. Just last weekend I shared a thermal with a golden eagle only 15 feet away at times, climbed up to 11,000 feet and raced him out over the valley to the next thermal. Now I must find a way to quit my day job and chase the summer around the world so I can fly all year long.
I'm not one for words so I can not possibly express what its like, all I can say is don't wait another year, not another day, not another second, drop what you are doing and book some lessons now. All said and done its about the cheapest way to get flying, and possibly the most fun.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VhH1CHgfaVM
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Right now, I'm in Army JROTC, and I'm a Second Lt. there, which is an officer. I'm hoping to become a pilot as I've said alot. If not a pilot, at least a Predetor pilot, which in return, is what I'm doing now; sitting looking at a computer screen, and flying for a 8-16 hours at a time. Of course, I don't play 8-16 hours on this game everyday, but I like to take 4 hours out of my life. :)
We will just have to see what turns out. :D
Now you just gotta go through 4 more years of ROTC and you are set !
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Right now, I'm in Army JROTC, and I'm a Second Lt. there, which is an officer. I'm hoping to become a pilot as I've said alot. If not a pilot, at least a Predetor pilot, which in return, is what I'm doing now; sitting looking at a computer screen, and flying for a 8-16 hours at a time. Of course, I don't play 8-16 hours on this game everyday, but I like to take 4 hours out of my life. :)
We will just have to see what turns out. :D
Actually sitting here looking at cartoon planes would you in the long run :)
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I won 10 billion dollars playing counter striker and in my spare time i fly F/A/B-16's for the CIA out of Amarillo. I have been active for 20 years and am now a reserve ready to go active again. If you run from me i will cuss you on 200 in AH for hours on end and tell you about your limited skill set because you are not as good as me. I am the best btw. Whatever i say is allowed because it is just banter. Right?
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I won 10 billion dollars playing counter striker and in my spare time i fly F/A/B-16's for the CIA out of Amarillo. I have been active for 20 years and am now a reserve ready to go active again. If you run from me i will cuss you on 200 in AH for hours on end and tell you about your limited skill set because you are not as good as me. I am the best btw. Whatever i say is allowed because it is just banter. Right?
I have been flying SU-29's out of Amarillo for the last ten years, funny I haven't seen any little englishmen around here, I call BS!!! :furious
:noid
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172s. I've got all of .9 hour in a DA-20, and I suspect that's all I'm going to devote to it.
Unless they give it a steerable nosewheel someday.
- oldman
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I have been flying SU-29's out of Amarillo for the last ten years, funny I haven't seen any little englishmen around here, I call BS!!! :furious
:noid
I am not surprised, i fly for the top secret super duper ace divison, i am far too smart to be associated with amoeba like you.
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I fly my Fokker Tri-Plane for the Kaiser. :salute
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172s. I've got all of .9 hour in a DA-20, and I suspect that's all I'm going to devote to it.
Unless they give it a steerable nosewheel someday.
- oldman
What is your experience with the da20? Everyone I've talked to says the nose wheel is hardly noticeable. Personally I rarely find the need to use more than the brakes for slow taxi and rudder for high speed taxi in the Cessna's.
Where you in the Katana or the C1? With the published numbers I wonder why more flight schools don't ditch the Cessnas and go with these.
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Hey I fly F/A-18 in RL what do you fly ? :aok
Just kidding !
I acutally logged about 30 hours in Cesna 172 and about 40 hours in cheeroke warrior
I've been in a Cherokee for a few hours. It was really cool to fly the new version. The Lance with retracting gear, that was a new experience. Most of my time has been in a Bonanza V. Very nice ride but the yoke is kinda weird.
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What is your experience with the da20? Everyone I've talked to says the nose wheel is hardly noticeable. Personally I rarely find the need to use more than the brakes for slow taxi and rudder for high speed taxi in the Cessna's.
Where you in the Katana or the C1? With the published numbers I wonder why more flight schools don't ditch the Cessnas and go with these.
i have almost 2 hours in a DA20 that's in our club. i like it, but it is very slippery on final......by that, i mean, that you cannot let your pitch be off be even a couple degrees, or she's gonna keep her speed. i don't recall having any problems with ground handling, and although slow, she's a blast in tha air.
<<S>>
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Just a little time in a Cessna 172, hope to get my license when I hit 17.
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"what do you fly in RL?"
A Case W-14 front-end loader, a Euclid haul truck, and a Daewoo forklift. :D
HA..got ya beat!!!
<--- Case IH MX285
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LOL, well.. anything can beat the antiquated pieces of s*** my 70+ year old boss has us running. Point being, we have a 1966(?) Cat 988 Loader, the Case W-14's are nearly 30 years old. The Euclid haul truck was made in 1947. I hate my job. I used to trim trees out of powerlines for a living. I "flew" a bucket on a 60' boom, and climbed other trees for 3 1/2 years before my inner-ear infection squashed that job.
I still keep in practice though with my own gear.
(http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/4650/meshelle025cd6.jpg)
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I sometimes jump off of my top step and fly to the ground... :noid
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I have 2 hours in a Cessna which qualified me to fly the bat plane. I'm flight lead of the 1st Fandango Bats bollocks outta the freakin bat cave.
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LOL, well.. anything can beat the antiquated pieces of s*** my 70+ year old boss has us running. Point being, we have a 1966(?) Cat 988 Loader, the Case W-14's are nearly 30 years old. The Euclid haul truck was made in 1947. I hate my job. I used to trim trees out of powerlines for a living. I "flew" a bucket on a 60' boom, and climbed other trees for 3 1/2 years before my inner-ear infection squashed that job.
I still keep in practice though with my own gear.
(http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/4650/meshelle025cd6.jpg)
our oldest piece of equipment is a International 7120
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Going for my first intro flight next month. Want to see if I'm cut out for it in rl before I go for more. I drive a boat at work but get it into low orbit every now and then.
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I have 2 hours in a Cessna which qualified me to fly the bat plane. I'm flight lead of the 1st Fandango Bats bollocks outta the freakin bat cave.
:noid Oh noes!!!
:rofl
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got hours in 172, warrior, archer,and a twin comanche. Hoping to maybe get some twin turbine soon in a premier jet
congrats james on taking that first jump there is nothing like that first time going up. my into flight was awesome i will never forget when the cfi looked over at me and said, "your airplane."
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How many hours do you need for a license and how much yearly to upkeep a cessna? Boat really stands for break out another thousand. Are planes the same as far as that goes?
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H300 and H500s rated, but the hours have dropped since I moved to Australia and the sky rocketing price (until last week) of fuel.
<S>...-Gixer
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6.2 hrs in C172, haven't been at real controls in about 8 yrs. Had to stop cuz I couldnt afford it, but now I can, and dont understand why I haven't resumed. Thanx for the thread, I think I may restart now!
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Gettin more and more time in this (Cirrus)
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/bucky626/n155aj_cirrus_sr22_turbo.jpg?t=1224127489)
Most time in a 206 which I LOVE....
(http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll280/bucky626/20071019152011Cessna_206h_stationai.jpg?t=1224127567)
Couple hundred hours in 172's and about 80 in 152
Oh..... and 1 hour of backseat "incentive ride" time in a F-16D which rocked even though I hurled 3 times :aok
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Ok, to take this post more seriously:
(http://2386atc.googlepages.com/grob.bmp/grob-full.jpg)
I sat in the co-pilot seat while my friend lead me through some loops, rolls, stalls and spins. Was lots of fun. I even did a loop and a barrel roll all by myself. :D
Like a lot of others I've also spent some time in the 172.
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I flew this over the wall last year crushing my right hand in the process, thats why i really only GV or buff as a result. Does this count?
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp74/acidreign57/673883525_l.jpg)
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How many hours do you need for a license and how much yearly to upkeep a cessna? Boat really stands for break out another thousand. Are planes the same as far as that goes?
I THINK IT'S MIN. 40 HOURS TO EARN YOUR PPL.
i'm told most average around 60 hours, but not sure.
don't know the upkeep, as i rent.
it's MORE than worth the time and effort to get your PPL though.
good luck
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i have almost 2 hours in a DA20 that's in our club. i like it, but it is very slippery on final......by that, i mean, that you cannot let your pitch be off be even a couple degrees, or she's gonna keep her speed.
I hate to tell you but compared to the 152 and 172 you've been flying just about everything else you ever fly is going to feel really slippery on final, but its a good thing. I remember the first time I landed a Mooney, took me about 3 approaches to get it on the ground. Literally 5 mph too fast across the threshold and you will float 1000 feet down the runway.
I THINK IT'S MIN. 40 HOURS TO EARN YOUR PPL.
i'm told most average around 60 hours, but not sure.
don't know the upkeep, as i rent.
it's MORE than worth the time and effort to get your PPL though.
good luck
Its 40 hours total time, including 20 hours with instructor and 10 hours solo, IF you fly in a part 61 school. If you go to a part 141 school its 35 hours, 20 hours dual and only requires 5 hours solo. The 141 schools have more strict curriculum and also in some cases can use sim time in place of actual (sorry not AH, an actual certified sim at the school :D).
For a ppl I've heard of people paying anywhere from $4000 to $10,000. A ppl really doesn't offer the amount of experience people give it credit for, and should be looked at as a license to learn. Honestly I did not feel really safe flying long cross country flights until I had more time and an instrument rating. I didn't feel 100% good about carrying friends until I got to about the 250 hour mark and around the time I got my commercial. The amount of true precision flying and decision making skills needed to pass the commercial really installs a lot of confidence (and makes you realize how crappy of a pilot you were before).
However I will say this, if you are looking to get into flying as a pure recreational sport, there are probably better ways to spend your money than getting a traditional private pilots license. For example consider you get your ppl in 50 hours which is reasonable for a gifted student, looking at fuel prices and average rental rates that's going to cost you about $6000. Great now you have your ppl, but what can you do? Buying is pretty much not an option unless you are somewhat wealthy. The maintenance cost and insurance alone for a low airtime pilot will likely be more than the planes monthly payments. So you are still stuck renting the crappy 172, and it doesn't get any cheaper now that you are certified. That means the typical 200-500 mile cross country flight is hardly cheaper than flying commercial and hardly faster than driving. Just buzzing around the airport and sight seeing is fun, but again is just way too expensive to justify unless you have some money.
Now if you take that same $6000 and go do something like hang gliding, you'll get top level instruction AND you'll have enough money left over to buy a glider and all the gear you need to fly. The price per hour is not even comparable, and even with a modest budget you can set yourself up to fly an almost unlimited amount of time (only the real life stuff like work will get in the way).
So if your main goal is to simply fly for fun, there are much better alternatives than the standard private pilots license. If your goal is to load your family up in the plane and fly 500 miles cross country for a holiday, then the ppl is the way to go, just get ready to spend a LOT of money. Also note that these 'weekend' pilots account for the majority of general aviation accidents, so please be safe and stay current. The worst thing to see is the 50 hour fresh private stop flying for 6 months, save up his money, bring out his entire family, cram them in the Cessna so its loaded to its max weight (something he's probably never done before), and take off in marginal VFR conditions to fly to the nearest destination type airport. There is nothing illegal with this so people think its ok. I saw this happen once at my flight school, unfortunately I was in the pattern and saw everything, and the result was, well, lets just say nobody was rushing over to the wreckage to look for survivors. :frown:
My point is to be honest to yourself. If you can hardly afford to get a ppl in the first place its unlikely you will be able to afford the continued training and flying required to stay safe and current.
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While I agree with AKHog that flying is not something to be taken lightly, and a PPL is a license to learn, I disagree that it's not worth it. If you've always wanted to learn to fly, do it. It's a great experience. Know your personal limits though, and always play it safe.
I've got about 1000 hours in Cessnas and Pipers. I got all my ratings in those and instructed for a year to build those hours. I've also got some time in a Twin Star, an Aztec, and a Seneca. A buddy and I flew the Seneca all over the country to build our twin time. That was an amazing experience.
Right now I fly Canadair Regional Jets (the CRJ 200 - 50 seats, and the CRJ 700 - 70 seats) out of O'Hare. I've only been doing it since January, and since fuel prices have been so damn high I haven't been flying much. I've probably got around 250 hours in them now.
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While I agree with AKHog that flying is not something to be taken lightly, and a PPL is a license to learn, I disagree that it's not worth it. If you've always wanted to learn to fly, do it. It's a great experience. Know your personal limits though, and always play it safe.
I'm sorry I did not mean to say it is not worth it. I have no regrets and think all of my training was 100% worth it.
My point was to say if recreational flying is your goal, there are more cost effective ways to get into the air than a private pilots license.
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J-3 Piper Cub and Cessna 172 mostly. The Cub is a blast.
Glove
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I hate to tell you but compared to the 152 and 172 you've been flying just about everything else you ever fly is going to feel really slippery on final, but its a good thing. I remember the first time I landed a Mooney, took me about 3 approaches to get it on the ground. Literally 5 mph too fast across the threshold and you will float 1000 feet down the runway.know what's funny about that? that's EXACTLY what i did, and EXACTLY how far i floated :rofl i do realize they're all gonna be more slippery, but it's also ok, as i'm being anal. the reason i stopped training in the diamond, is because i've read too many ntsb reports concluding pilot error, partly due to transitioning into another make, and being low time. i'm only about a 200 hour pilot, so i figure i'm gonna stick to the cessnas for a bit more. i really like em anyway.
Its 40 hours total time, including 20 hours with instructor and 10 hours solo, IF you fly in a part 61 school. If you go to a part 141 school its 35 hours, 20 hours dual and only requires 5 hours solo. The 141 schools have more strict curriculum and also in some cases can use sim time in place of actual (sorry not AH, an actual certified sim at the school :D).
For a ppl I've heard of people paying anywhere from $4000 to $10,000. A ppl really doesn't offer the amount of experience people give it credit for, and should be looked at as a license to learn. Honestly I did not feel really safe flying long cross country flights until I had more time and an instrument rating. I didn't feel 100% good about carrying friends until I got to about the 250 hour mark and around the time I got my commercial. The amount of true precision flying and decision making skills needed to pass the commercial really installs a lot of confidence (and makes you realize how crappy of a pilot you were before).
However I will say this, if you are looking to get into flying as a pure recreational sport, there are probably better ways to spend your money than getting a traditional private pilots license. For example consider you get your ppl in 50 hours which is reasonable for a gifted student, looking at fuel prices and average rental rates that's going to cost you about $6000. Great now you have your ppl, but what can you do? Buying is pretty much not an option unless you are somewhat wealthy. The maintenance cost and insurance alone for a low airtime pilot will likely be more than the planes monthly payments. So you are still stuck renting the crappy 172, and it doesn't get any cheaper now that you are certified. That means the typical 200-500 mile cross country flight is hardly cheaper than flying commercial and hardly faster than driving. Just buzzing around the airport and sight seeing is fun, but again is just way too expensive to justify unless you have some money. i kinda have to dissagree here. i realize it was wsted money, but it's the best thing i feel i've ever wasted money on. it's an experience that no one can take away from me, and it is fun to fly to the shore too.
Now if you take that same $6000 and go do something like hang gliding, you'll get top level instruction AND you'll have enough money left over to buy a glider and all the gear you need to fly. The price per hour is not even comparable, and even with a modest budget you can set yourself up to fly an almost unlimited amount of time (only the real life stuff like work will get in the way).
So if your main goal is to simply fly for fun, there are much better alternatives than the standard private pilots license. If your goal is to load your family up in the plane and fly 500 miles cross country for a holiday, then the ppl is the way to go, just get ready to spend a LOT of money. Also note that these 'weekend' pilots account for the majority of general aviation accidents, so please be safe and stay current. The worst thing to see is the 50 hour fresh private stop flying for 6 months, save up his money, bring out his entire family, cram them in the Cessna so its loaded to its max weight (something he's probably never done before), and take off in marginal VFR conditions to fly to the nearest destination type airport. There is nothing illegal with this so people think its ok. I saw this happen once at my flight school, unfortunately I was in the pattern and saw everything, and the result was, well, lets just say nobody was rushing over to the wreckage to look for survivors. :frown:
My point is to be honest to yourself. If you can hardly afford to get a ppl in the first place its unlikely you will be able to afford the continued training and flying required to stay safe and current.
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used to fly 172's 182's piper aztecs piper senecas, citabria's, pits s2c, kingair a t6 texan a couple times... thats about it.
as to the origional poster flying f18s... theres another guy like him flying f16s for the cia.
(http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x205/p38fester/1089_1181441256_ovso.gif)
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I fly lard fu style
(http://www.bestpicever.com/pics/pic_427373001187818157.jpg)
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(http://seminars.torontoghosts.org/blog/media/blogs/new/ufo05.jpg)
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I flew this over the wall last year crushing my right hand in the process, thats why i really only GV or buff as a result. Does this count?
(http://i399.photobucket.com/albums/pp74/acidreign57/673883525_l.jpg)
So do you still drag since the wipeout?
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I'm jealous of the pits fester. that is one plane i really want to spend some time in eventually. There are a couple guys that have them at my airport that run a aerobatics school that have me drooling when i see them out flying around
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What is your experience with the da20? Everyone I've talked to says the nose wheel is hardly noticeable. Personally I rarely find the need to use more than the brakes for slow taxi and rudder for high speed taxi in the Cessna's.
Where you in the Katana or the C1? With the published numbers I wonder why more flight schools don't ditch the Cessnas and go with these.
Heh, well, as I said, my experience is quite limited. Believe it was the C1. I imagine that you get used to the castering nose wheel with practice....you can get used to washing your clothes by beating them on the rocks down at the creek, with practice....but I'm lazy enough not to want the extra hassle for something that shouldn't require that level of effort.
Got a kick out of the approach. My airfield has some tight airspace restrictions, so there are none of these long approaches you see in the magazines. The Diamond has to be dived, basically, at 95 kias to get from pattern altitude to a good final approach altitude. I thought that part was fun. But then I had to taxi off the runway and that frigging nosewheel thing came up again.
- oldman
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I fly lard fu style
Now I have to gouge my eyes out damnit!
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Cessna 172 Skyhawk
Still in Flight school ... but lovin every minute of it. :aok
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RumbeB please promise to never ever do that again without FAIR WARNING!!! Only hillary is more powerful then that picture. :confused:
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Meh... Ive got like 4 hours in a 152. That count for anything?
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Meh... Ive got like 4 hours in a 152. That count for anything?
yea it does. now get ur arse back up and get your ppl sir!! :aok
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B-24 (type rated), B-17, Mustang, T-6, PT-19 and a bunch of Cessna time.
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lol this is the wrong thread
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B-24 (type rated), B-17, Mustang, T-6, PT-19 and a bunch of Cessna time.
T-6 Texan? What did you think about it?
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Yes, the original T-6 Texan, not the II.
It's a WWII era airplane built by North American...what could possibly be wrong with it? <G>
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Around 650 hrs in the F-15E, another hundred or so in the T-38, just a bit under 1000 hrs in the T-37, and around 20-25 so far in the T-6 Texan II.
I started with a dozen or so hrs in a glider and around 90 in C-150/152/172s...
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B-24 (type rated), B-17, Mustang, T-6, PT-19 and a bunch of Cessna time.
So how does one go about getting opportunities to fly aircraft like that? Is it all about who you know?
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i have countless hours in a commercial airliner.
Does that count?
EDIT: thats riding in one.
Im not as cool as Adonai
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So how does one go about getting opportunities to fly aircraft like that? Is it all about who you know?
The P-51 and T-6 I paid for. <G> The B-17 and B-24 was a case of I was in the right place at the right time. I'm retired so I had the time to volunteer, I had the basic skills needed and was willing to learn, I did my share of the work and I was the luckiest guy in the world. <G>
If you're a pilot get some high performance time, get tailwheel time, get some multi engine time. Build skills that you'll need to fly WWII airplanes. Beg, borrow or steal. <G> Volunteer at museums with a flying program, etc.
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Been awhile since I have flown in R/L ..
Last time up was in Crazy Horse TF-51D.. most fun I have had with a machine on this planet, so far)
Got time logged in 'Snaggletooth' ..'68 Cessna 172, fun times.
A bit of fun in an Aeronca Champ ..first 'stick' airplane I ever flew ..just too much fun.
A bit of time in a Stearman PT-17 ..actually looked down on I-5 and the cars really were goin faster than we were.
..the flying wires really do change tune when you get close to stall (change AoA and airspeed)
A bit of fun in a Cessna 180 (first tail dragger ..damn if I could get it to TURN out of the chocks ... LOL..good thing no one was behind us)
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The RQ-4A Global Hawk.
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13,000+ hours logged in 81 different aircraft types and still have time for Aces High! Flying at 38,000 feet with a full load pays the bills but, bombing at 4K in B24's is alot more fun.
Airline Pilots: Love the job, hate the career for family life, job security.
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My Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14......convincing wife to let me take flying lessons though, but doubt that will happen for a little while.
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Good to see so many other pilots on here!
I solo'd my 16th b-day in a C-172 and got my PPL at 17. Been flying with my dad in his '54 L-21B Super Cub since I was about 6, and he lets me fly that around when I can, to build time, it's not the fastest thing around but it's a lot of fun, low & slow with the side doors opened up just "Cubbin'" around.
I just broke 300 hours total time the other day flying a C-172RG working on my commercial/instrument. Have been flying an AA-5B Tiger for most of the instrument training, it's a great plane - I really like a "low wing" airplane - visibility is better, and just feels more like flying when you're looking out over the wing.
Have a few hours flying some aerobatics in a Marchetti SF-260, a Citabria Decathlon and an RV-8. Got to fly a N3N (Stearman) a few years ago for about an hour in formation with my dad that was flying his Cub - that was fun, [cliche]nothing like that open cockpit and a big radial engine and the wind in the wires![/cliche]
Planning to start flight instructing this spring to build more time so I might be competitive for a pilot slot at a regional airline, it'll be crappy living for a while but I think it'll be worth it in the long run, so long as I don't get furloughed, repeatedly, :lol :cry
Around 650 hrs in the F-15E, another hundred or so in the T-38, just a bit under 1000 hrs in the T-37, and around 20-25 so far in the T-6 Texan II.
I started with a dozen or so hrs in a glider and around 90 in C-150/152/172s...
That's good stuff man, has to be a kick to fly fighters. That's a lot of Tweet time! I take it you're a now an instructor at UPT? I was planning to fly F-16's in the Guard until I found out I had scoliosis in my lumbar a few years ago, never knew I had it, apparently it will DQ me from ejection seat aircraft, bummer :( I might still take the AFOQT and send out packages to units and see what happens, might be some slim chance I could get a waiver - but it'd probably have to limit me to flying class IIB (non ejection seat) - if they'd let me through the 6 months in the T-6.
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My Kawasaki Ninja ZX-14......convincing wife to let me take flying lessons though, but doubt that will happen for a little while.
who says she has to know? :D
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it's MORE than worth the time and effort to get your PPL though.
good luck
Yes but the money? Anyone comes and asks me about doing a PPL (especially for helicopters) I seriously ask them if it's what they really want and reasons why. As it's seriously expensive CPL makes you unemployable and that's $70k gone for helicopters. Think any given weekend the local airfield is filled with young people doing their PPL which is fantastic if that's what you really want and/or have a career well planned out. But just as something to do because you think it's cool or fun is something best left for the rich.
Do the solo, get the certificate stick it on your wall and leave it at that, dream accomplished. Anything more just sucks up an enormous amount of cash.
Selling PPLs is their core business, and I get a little frustrated walking around the club and seeing all the young guys going for PPLs with dreams often over hyped by their instructors with future career in the airlines. To the instructor you are just another hour towards his own goals of a commercial job. If your lucky you will find a honest instructor who isn't in it for his own hours and future career.
If they say "your a natural" during or after your intro flight, it's just a sales line. They say that to everyone and anyone who sits down in a cockpit.
If you seriously want a career in aviation do it the smart way, study hard at school,complete a university degree in either maths or aero related subjects. Join the airforce and let the government pay for your training.
If you've missed out on the Air Force option for what ever reason, you'll still need the uni degree,work three jobs and take the instructor/small operator/big operator path. Though you'll need some serious $$$ and if your still hanging around the aero clubs at over 30 you might as well forget a commercial airline job.
I was lucky to do my training with a family friend and commercial operator for helicopters. If I was to finish off my fixed wing PPL I'd get a small group of friends together, buy a cheap second hand Cessna and then find an instructor for the hours when you need it. That way you can take the little Cessna from PPL through to C-CAT and still have a fixed asset at the end of the training. For obvious reasons this isn't a smart option for helicopters.
<S>...-Gixer
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Yes but the money? Anyone comes and asks me about doing a PPL (especially for helicopters) I seriously ask them if it's what they really want and reasons why. As it's seriously expensive CPL makes you unemployable and that's $70k gone for helicopters. Think any given weekend the local airfield is filled with young people doing their PPL which is fantastic if that's what you really want and/or have a career well planned out. But just as something to do because you think it's cool or fun is something best left for the rich. well, i look at it this way. the types of people, in general that want to fly, are going to spend their money on SOMETHING, be it a PPL, a dragster, guns, hunting bows, cruises, etc.
this being the case, if you're even remotly inclined, then it's worth it. i go up just to punch holes in the sky, and my wallet sometimes, other times i'll only go up if it's windy, as i REALLY enjoy the challenge of crosswind landings.
as for the rotorwing endorsement? i WISH i could afford that. when i can, i most probably will. a friend runs a helicopter school here in south jersey. i've got a few hours on his simulator, and about an hour in a schweizer 300.
Do the solo, get the certificate stick it on your wall and leave it at that, dream accomplished. Anything more just sucks up an enormous amount of cash.actually, my renters insurance is 250 a year, club membership is 40 a month, and the c172 is about 95 an hour. the clup only charges what's on the hobbs. i flew to ocean city and had the plane out from 9am, didn't return till 10pm that night. it cost us 3 hours on the hobbs total. my friend and i split it, so not that expensive in the grand scheme of things.
Selling PPLs is their core business, and I get a little frustrated walking around the club and seeing all the young guys going for PPLs with dreams often over hyped by their instructors with future career in the airlines. To the instructor you are just another hour towards his own goals of a commercial job. If your lucky you will find a honest instructor who isn't in it for his own hours and future career. this is why i avoided young cfi's like the plague. i fly with a cfi who is an electronics engineer for l3 communications, and very high up in civil air patrol. he instructs purley for the enjoyment of seeing his students progress. proof is watching him spend an hour or more on the ground with students, and quite often he won't charge that time out as he should.
If they say "your a natural" during or after your intro flight, it's just a sales line. They say that to everyone and anyone who sits down in a cockpit.i never heard that line. i got......well, whaddya think? you like it, or not? we all know what my answer was. :rofl
If you seriously want a career in aviation do it the smart way, study hard at school,complete a university degree in either maths or aero related subjects. Join the airforce and let the government pay for your training. now THIS is advice i should've followed in highschool......but i was young dumb, and invincible.....and knew much more than the people telling me that.
If you've missed out on the Air Force option for what ever reason, you'll still need the uni degree,work three jobs and take the instructor/small operator/big operator path. Though you'll need some serious $$$ and if your still hanging around the aero clubs at over 30 you might as well forget a commercial airline job.
I was lucky to do my training with a family friend and commercial operator for helicopters. If I was to finish off my fixed wing PPL I'd get a small group of friends together, buy a cheap second hand Cessna and then find an instructor for the hours when you need it. That way you can take the little Cessna from PPL through to C-CAT and still have a fixed asset at the end of the training. For obvious reasons this isn't a smart option for helicopters.
<S>...-Gixer
sir, my intentions are not to question you, or contradict you. i'm simply throwing my outlook in there.
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Gixer, your estimation is about 10 years behind the times. It's not hard to get into the airlines anymore. It's no more stable, and it's damn expensive, but you can do it WAY easier than you used to be able to. I know guys who are now working at a regional airline who had never flown 3 years ago.
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I know guys who are now working at a regional airline who had never flown 3 years ago.
Yes and how many hours did they and aircraft ratings before they got a foot in the door? We all know someone who has made it to regional prop 10 years ago and today.
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About 500 hours. Commercial, Instr., Multi. I know guys who did it in less than 300.
I got in to, what I consider, the top regional with 1000 total time, 100 multi, commercial, multi, instr..
And we're both flying jets. He's in the ERJ. I'm in the CRJ.
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Well even though people have done that, I still don't think its normal. Not in the big picture that I have seen at least. I guess if you already have degree in some semi-related field, have enough money and time to put life on hold and get it all, it could happen, but I don't think its the normal.
But Gixer is right, if you are a student wanting to fly as a profession, I think the best advice is to get a degree in some semi-related field (different enough to fall back on if you can't fly in the future) and work your bellybutton off to get into flight school in the military. If the military is not an option buying the Cessna to build time is also excellent advice. For the amount I spent on rentals I could have double the total time right now. The problem is the math only works out like that if you have it from near the beginning of training, which is a big scary up front cost for a beginner. And I'll say it again, if you really want to fly just for fun and don't have a money tree in your garden, there are much more cost effective ways to go about it than general aviation.
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Well even if you know multiple people that have done that, it still does not make it the norm. Not in the big picture that I have seen at least. I guess if you already have a 4 year degree in some semi-related field, have enough money to stop working for 6 months and get all your ratings, then work for minimum wage for years while you build hours, it could be done. There are people who have done it though.
Negative. Last year (before fuel prices went through the roof), the HIGHEST minimums that a regional required was 1000 total time and 100 multi. A few were hiring with just commercial, instrument, and multi ratings; no minimum hour requirements. I'm not talking about multiple people. I'm talking about thousands who got hired in the last few years.
You're right though. It's expensive and not easy because of that. However, you can get your degree and fly at the same time. Of course, that works best if you're just graduating high school. However, if you get your commercial, instrument and multi ratings, you are more than 1/2 way there. Most regionals were giving interviews at 500 or 600 hours total time with 100 multi hours last year. I suspect that next year we will see the same thing.
Flight instructing does not pay well. You will either have lots of students and very little pay (my situation), or pretty decent pay, and very few students. However, right when I got hired, the school I was teaching at could not find enough instructors. Pilots were graduating from college aviation programs and going right into the regionals. It's not that way now, but it will be that way again very soon. What I'm trying to say is, when the economy recovers, you may never need to flight instruct. Get hired by the lowest mins airline around, and in six months move up to a good company.
Is a career in the airlines a stable career? Hell no. If you do it, will you every get furloughed? I'd count on it. Majoring in something besides flying is a great insurance policy. However, if you choose companies carefully, you can minimize your risk. Save money. Plan for it. You'll get through it.
I spent 13 years in another career. I hated every day of it. Now, I love my job. I haven't made this little money since I was about 19 years old (I'm in my 40's now). However, I love my job. I should be making more than what I was at my old job in less than 5 years. Then, my earnings will outpace my old career easily.
It's not easy. It costs a hell of a lot. It's also a great career (best, part-time job in the world). It's worth every cent I spent to get here. It's also not as hard to do as it was when I was graduating high school. Hell, it's not like it was 5 years ago. If somebody's passionate about flying, and can somehow scrape together the money to get through the training, DO IT!
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Sorry yippee I edited down my post while you were quoting me and replying. I guess my experience is dated, I was talking about 5-6 years ago when I was last really looking at regional hiring numbers. It is probably easier now.
There is still no way around the fact that it is expensive as hell to get into, with very little monetary payback for a long time. I don't even think I'd ever want to fly airlines or even regional, so I'm looking at even less return. You are right though, there is nothing like doing what you love for a living. I had a little taste of that this summer which is why I'm excited to try and make this work as a career again. Just figuring out where to go from here is the hard part.
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I fly this:
(http://www.crazy-jokes.com/Christmas-Cartoons/pics/santa_sleigh_1024.jpg)
jk
Irl I fly the canvas, yep I am a huge sailor, lot of professional large boat and tallship time, here is the curlew, my last ship, 82' Alden Schooner, speant 3 months on her
(http://www.thebeachcities.com/images/images2/curlew.jpg)
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Started my PPL when i was about 18 in Warriors and a Cesna 152. Only got a couple hours done. Now, i fly RC gliders (slope soaring) - not quite as much fun, but crashing it is no big deal...
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Just figuring out where to go from here is the hard part.
Just don't let that hold you back. Keep working toward a career in aviation and network with everybody you see at the airport (and even away from the airport). You never know who might hire you to fly them around.
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I fly this:
(http://www.crazy-jokes.com/Christmas-Cartoons/pics/santa_sleigh_1024.jpg)
jk
yep I am a huge sailor
Like this huge?
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Davis_Andrews/fatpirate.jpg)
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Opps forgot to add mine :o
About an hour and a half in a 152, and .7 in a zodiac. Loved the zodiac sooo sooo much. Looking forward to actually starting flight lessons sometime within the next month/ month and a half.
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I went the Instructor/Charter/Helicopter/Corporate route. I have been at a Major Airline for over 21 years now - 14 years DC10 and 7 years 737/800. I work 8 days a month and live quite well in Hawaii the rest of the month. No regrets! :D
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Like this huge?
(http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Davis_Andrews/fatpirate.jpg)
no, that is another one of those wanna be pirates that makes all tallship sailors look like idiots, neg, im a gunner thought, my most recent comand was of a 14inch signal command, my largest was a 6 pounder cannon :rock
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(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4600/rcplanesxa9.jpg)
although not too well
(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1980/exfighterjs0.jpg)
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(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4600/rcplanesxa9.jpg)
although not too well
(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1980/exfighterjs0.jpg)
the one you show that crashed, i think although it is touted as a trainer, is somewhat difficult to fly. we had a few in our r/c club had them.....they didn't care for em. the tower hobbies trianer on the other hand......should be a nice flying plane. i think hobbico builds em for tower hobbies, although i'm not sure.
have you gotten with a trainer in your club?
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Yes, I fly quite well. That is the durabat trainer pictured. Yet, flying skill means very little when your battery comes unplugged from the reciever at full throttle and 300' up. Was only my 3rd flight of that plane.
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Yes, I fly quite well. That is the durabat trainer pictured. Yet, flying skill means very little when your battery comes unplugged from the reciever at full throttle and 300' up. Was only my 3rd flight of that plane.
DOH!!
i had that happen once.......i had bought a used stick from a guy there. put a 46fx on it, and test flew....was great.
at about 200ft, i did a snaproll, and the wings folded. when they did, they yanked the reciever, pulling it out of the battery. she hit the ground nose down, at full throttle.
i was laughing soooo frigign hard, i could barley stand up. WE WALKED OUT TO GET IT, AND THE NOSE WAS BURIED almost 6" in the dirt :rofl
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I fly a pair of Converse All-Stars, though I have never been able to jump a fence like what they show in The Sandlot... Other wise I lfy a little remote helicopter, cuz my previous experiences with r/c planes were pretty costly...I flew a plane into a window and it ended up flying through and getting tangled up in my mom's houseplants... grounded for a month! :cry
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Well all this talk about flying has got me re-thinking my decisions. I've tried for years to get a job flying with a commercial pilots license and only 250 hours of experience with no success. So I said screw that and today, just now, I contacted the local chief flight instructor and am signing up to get back into training and to get up to at least my CFI. Hopefully a job instructing is in my near future and I can say good bye to my boring job and hello to an exciting career in aviation. The scary part is after working my bellybutton off for years to pay off my student loans I'll be going right back into debt. :rolleyes:
I just think if by next spring I can actually be getting paid to fly it will all be worth it. :pray
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(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/4600/rcplanesxa9.jpg)
although not too well
(http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/1980/exfighterjs0.jpg)
That line of dura planes was (and is) an evil thing. I was a club instructor during the late 80s and early 90s, about the time the duraplanes hit the market. I absolutely hated seeing them show up at the field in the hands of some young student R/C pilot.
Those things were notorious for losing elevator authority due to the lack of a rear fuselage to keep the air flowing in a smooth laminar fashion.