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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MjTalon on October 21, 2008, 08:13:07 AM
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http://www.mediafire.com/?jzetmwmfytx
Here's a Film that proves tanks can be downed with MG gun fire if hit directly in it's weakspots for periods of time. at 0-40 seconds of the film it shows me gunning down a Panzer from the rear at it's weakpoint.
Slow down the film to about X40 and you'll be able to watch it slow fully but carefully. :salute
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Could be wrong maj but I think it was nme GV that kills it . If you even ping it you get an assist . :salute sir
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I have never got an assist from a GV that I rocketed. I have killed a couple of tanks and osti's that way but you have to hit it dead on and there is a very high chance of it bouncing off instead. I gave up trying to kill hvy armor with rockets months ago. Light armor is a different story.
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Thats what the GVers are complaining about. You can't kill a Panzer with MG, but you can rack up a ton of hits. Then when another GV kills it, you get the kill (seeing you loaded up on so many hits) and he only gets an assist. I'm not sure, but I don't think you can kill panzers with rockets either, but you might be able to build the hits the same.
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It's the way kills are recorded period. Damage TYPE doesn't take the precedence it should. Same thing happens the other way around with planes. A guy might land a 20mm shell somewhere on a Spitfire that keeps flying with no damage whatsoever, then someone with MGs takes off his wing and loses the kill to the cannon shell.
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More power to you if you can kill a panzer with mg. Only time I shoot at tanks with mg is when defending alone! If you want to kill the gv with guns up an IL2. As for being in a gv trying to kill other gvs. Seeing a spitfire strafing the guy your aiming at is lame. But its also lame to cry and fight about cartoon kills IMO. :aok
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The film clearly shows the first panzer was hit by a round and lost his turret. The fact he towered out while you were attempting to steal the kill is coincidence.
If you really want to test this, you need someone to up a panzer in a quiet area where you and he are the only two nearby. You BOTH need to film you strafe him dead with your 50s. If you really did it, it will say in his text buffer "you have been killed."
Absent that, you are perpetuating the myth with this film, not busting it.
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I'm not sure, but I don't think you can kill panzers with rockets either, but you might be able to build the hits the same.
Yer u can. I did a sceen shot write up on it once before the boards were changed. 3 rockets tracks a tank and 5 blows it up. F6f works well for me.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/rock1.jpg)
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I killed a Panzer with a single HVAR once. I lost my tail in a TBM and was flat-spinning to my death. For the heck of it, I let them loose. Since AH rockets launch in line with the flight path of the plane and not where the rail is pointed, it shot straight down for about 1,500 ft and whacked him.
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http://www.mediafire.com/?jzetmwmfytx
Here's a Film that proves tanks can be downed with MG gun fire if hit directly in it's weakspots for periods of time. at 0-40 seconds of the film it shows me gunning down a Panzer from the rear at it's weakpoint.
Slow down the film to about X40 and you'll be able to watch it slow fully but carefully. :salute
All I see you you getting a lot of ricochets on a panzer while he towers out. I did see a few hits to the track but you didn't kill him. And it shows on the second panzer you did around six strafing runs and only got his pentle gun.
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I'm not sure its damage done that gets the kill - it seems that if an ac gets the first hits on a gv they'll get the kill regardless of damage done.
If I'm in a gv and see fighters strafing gvs I'll ignore any flaks and just concentrate on tanks - its hard to killsteal when you've had a face full of 20mm from a wirble :P
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Yer u can. I did a sceen shot write up on it once before the boards were changed. 3 rockets tracks a tank and 5 blows it up. F6f works well for me.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/rock1.jpg)
Is AH rocket size ok? I thought they were smaller or is panzer really so small? :confused:
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I'm not sure its damage done that gets the kill - it seems that if an ac gets the first hits on a gv they'll get the kill regardless of damage done.
Negative. It is the damage done, ore more precicely: The amount of damage points inflicted on that tank.
Ahh, I know why this happens. It's the tracks. They are a damageable component and can soak up a large quantity of damage from light cannon and MG which unbalances the kill awarding. I'll have to see if there's a way that HT can alter the awarding of GV kills to take that into account.
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I'm not sure its damage done that gets the kill - it seems that if an ac gets the first hits on a gv they'll get the kill regardless of damage done.
If I'm in a gv and see fighters strafing gvs I'll ignore any flaks and just concentrate on tanks - its hard to killsteal when you've had a face full of 20mm from a wirble :P
im gonna start doin that now. thanks for the idea! :lol
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Yer u can. I did a sceen shot write up on it once before the boards were changed. 3 rockets tracks a tank and 5 blows it up. F6f works well for me.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/rock1.jpg)
I took out a tiger with 6 rockets from a D pony, never have been able to do it again though.
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Yer u can. I did a sceen shot write up on it once before the boards were changed. 3 rockets tracks a tank and 5 blows it up. F6f works well for me.
(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/rock1.jpg)
Salvo 3 rcokets from an F6F-5 and you can clean kill any tank but a Tiger. I do it all the time.
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Yeah, I gotta say that unless you're trying to take a base, friendly aircraft gunning down the enemy tanks is annoying. It's way too easy for the aircraft to get the kills with just a few hits when the tanks do the real work.
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I have never got an assist from a GV that I rocketed. I have killed a couple of tanks and osti's that way but you have to hit it dead on and there is a very high chance of it bouncing off instead. I gave up trying to kill hvy armor with rockets months ago. Light armor is a different story.
the early model p38 that has the rockets right under the cockpit is a super uber awesome and acurate tank killer if your trying to kill them with rockets.
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Quote from: LYNX on Yesterday at 07:36:42 PM
Yer u can. I did a sceen shot write up on it once before the boards were changed. 3 rockets tracks a tank and 5 blows it up. F6f works well for me.
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Salvo 3 rcokets from an F6F-5 and you can clean kill any tank but a Tiger. I do it all the time.Salvo 3 rcokets from an F6F-5 and you can clean kill any tank but a Tiger. I do it all the time.
Maybe my prob is not salvoing 3 at a time. I have them set to fire one at a time for ...well everything I shoot at with them
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Quote from: LYNX on Yesterday at 07:36:42 PM
Yer u can. I did a sceen shot write up on it once before the boards were changed. 3 rockets tracks a tank and 5 blows it up. F6f works well for me.
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Salvo 3 rcokets from an F6F-5 and you can clean kill any tank but a Tiger. I do it all the time.
Maybe my prob is not salvoing 3 at a time. I have them set to fire one at a time for ...well everything I shoot at with them
That's likely the problem. I used to fire one at a time and was occasionally succesful but my success rate sky-rocketed when I went to salvo 3/delay .05. It's still not easy but I get the clean kill slightly over 50% of the time now and am still improving. My biggest problem now is I get impatient and don't set up for the slightly diving shot on the rear which is required for the kill.
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the early model p38 that has the rockets right under the cockpit is a super uber awesome and acurate tank killer if your trying to kill them with rockets.
There was never a P-38 with a center line rocket launch system. The early P-38s had 6 bazooka tubes, 3 on each wing to fire the M8 4.5" rockets, later P-38 models used 5" HVAR rockets. Please show a picture of a wartime production model early P-38 with a center line rocket launch system.
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Our P38G has the rocket tubes mounted on both sides of the cockpit. Close enough for government work, I'd say. No reason to jump him for it.