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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: uptown on October 26, 2008, 09:32:48 AM
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I'd like to see something to spend buff perks on besides the 234. The bomber catagory is the only one where we have on other options to spend perks on. Surely someone can come up with a Allied option for bomber perks. There was talk at one time about perking ord. I liked the idea then and still thinks it's a good idea.
The grand slam bomb, bouncing betty, incendiary bombs......all worth spending perks on and would be historically correct. :salute
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Perk formations! You could still take off with a single bomber for free but if you add 1-2 to the formation you should pay for them.
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Perk formations! You could still take off with a single bomber for free but if you add 1-2 to the formation you should pay for them.
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You can also perk the new Il-2. It may be that less than 50% of bbs users like this idea, but in my conversations in the arena it seems that good majority of the players do.
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Perk formations! You could still take off with a single bomber for free but if you add 1-2 to the formation you should pay for them.
Do you even fly bombers?
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Well, that's not my quote, but I've flown bombers plenty in past tours, not so much this tour, and I am in favor of perking drones. They warp, can't follow a simple turn but can follow through an immelman, etc. They are abused. It's time to make someone think twice before they go suicidal to lancstuka a cv with drones in tow.
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Perk formations! You could still take off with a single bomber for free but if you add 1-2 to the formation you should pay for them.
Ya there is. for say a 234 is 100 perks (example). you take one 234 its 100 perks....u add formation its 300. duuhhhhh :rock
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Do you even fly bombers?
Yep...use to be in a bomber squad! Had 5k perks before I changed my name...and I wouldn't mind if formations are perked
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Ya there is. for say a 234 is 100 perks (example). you take one 234 its 100 perks....u add formation its 300. duuhhhhh :rock
And your point?
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Ya there is. for say a 234 is 100 perks (example). you take one 234 its 100 perks....u add formation its 300. duuhhhhh :rock
I would think he was referring to perking the formations of -All- bombers. JU-88/B-24/B-26/Lanc/Boston, etc.
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Yep...use to be in a bomber squad! Had 5k perks before I changed my name...and I wouldn't mind if formations are perked
If they made the bombers a little more durable, I might tend to agree with you.
But as it is now, one pass from barely competent fighter will light that bomber up like the 4th of july.
With a small formation of bombers you will at least have a small chance of making it home.
Granted there are some guys who are surgeons with buff guns, but for the most part that is not the case.
I think its enough of a penalty to have to fly an extrodinary amount of time just to reach a "safe" altitude. (which makes bombing all the more difficult)
I say, leave the bombers the way they are.
If anything , I have to agree with some sort of perked ordinance.
It seems like any time someone has a complaint about a plane in here the answer is "perk it".
I think a little more thought should be put into the answer.
Bombastically yours,
Boner
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They are abused.
What isn't??
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My thinking on perking formations comes from my observation that bombers are misused in the game. They come in at low alt, dive bomb and just general stupidness. If they have something to loose then maybe they'll think twice about loosing the perks. I think perked ords is a dumb idea because you know your going to loose the perks so why make sure you survive.
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My thinking on perking formations comes from my observation that bombers are misused in the game. They come in at low alt, dive bomb and just general stupidness. If they have something to loose then maybe they'll think twice about loosing the perks.
So we should perk planes etc. because of the bad behavior of the pilots who fly them?
Well then, lets start with the P-51
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How many bomber perks do you have? 4k-6k?
I another thread I also support formations of up to 5 planes. With the option of how the formation...forms. Also giving the option of how far away your drones are giving you max coverage or pin point drop.
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So we should perk planes etc. because of the bad behavior of the pilots who fly them?
Well then, lets start with the P-51
:furious (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/Bottom.gif)
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How many bomber perks do you have? 4k-6k?
I another thread I also support formations of up to 5 planes. With the option of how the formation...forms. Also giving the option of how far away your drones are giving you max coverage or pin point drop.
Without going back into the game and checking, i have absolutley no idea how many perks I have for anything!
I really don't pay attention to that.
I also don't want you to get the idea that I think that your proposals are nessesarily wrong.
I just disagree with them.
Adding a few more perked bombers to the existing formations might be kinda cool, but I agree that there would be problems with the accuracy element etc.
But perking the existing formations shouldn't be called for, considering most bombers I've seen (and flown) couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
Thats just my humble opinion. And I :salute yours.
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:salute back at ya! Also it wouldn't be 100 perks per bomber but more like 7-8 for heavies and 3-4 for the med. not much really. But I can agree to disagree :devil
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The thing that puzzles me is why there is so much aversion to perking when there is almost nothing to spend bomber perks on. When we suggest perking formations, we aren't saying make them super expensive. 3-5 perks per drone would be totally reasonable and almost negligible, but it would drastically change how drones are used in the game.
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The solution is simple. Model another perked bomber and dont allow dive bombing in historically level bombers.
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The solution is simple. Model another perked bomber and dont allow dive bombing in historically level bombers.
Yep, that would be the answer to the lankstuka issue... Being as lanks were
well known for shedding wings when carrying supermax fuel and ord loads, and
forced into violent maneuvers to dodge radar directed searchlights...
But for our ingame lanks, this is not a factor at all... Rediculous, and silly too!!!
Divebombing GV's in lanks??? Just dont allow the kills into score... That would be a start...
There is precedent in the game for this...
Example; When in bomber mode, Boston/A20 does not record kills for noseguns...
Buffer says, "so and so, landed ??? victories", but kills don't appear on bomber score...
LOL, and the wings come off, when hit by birdpoops...LOL!!!!
Actually, the REAL fix would be to correct the missmodeling of Lank/B24 wings...
(the b24's davis wing was very fragile too)
I can hear it now... "This is a game, not reality"!!!
Well that is OBVIOUS, when we all see a vic of lanks doing screaming barrel rolls, split/s's
and immelmann turns, while packin full maxy bombloads... And never loose their drones either...
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Its just stupid, and goofy...
RC
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When you take up a bomber with the two drones, Perk each additional drone, say 200 each up to 8.... So you can have multiple drones...... :rock
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Could you imagine 5-6 sets of 8 bomber formations...oh man. They could just line up wing tip to wing tip and carpet bomb a base and kill everything. Ack, hangers, fuel, ammo, radar, and the town. Only a fool would attack even a single player with 8 birds.
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...There was talk at one time about perking ord. I liked the idea then and still thinks it's a good idea.
The grand slam bomb, bouncing betty, incendiary bombs......all worth spending perks on and would be historically correct. :salute
I have to disagree with everything stated above except for the incendiary bombs. All the other bombs pass the 4,000 pound limit set by HTC for ordnance. The incendiary bomb would be historical, and could be produced within the 4,000 pound limit.
Hooray for perked incendiary ordnance! :aok
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Divebombing GV's in lanks??? Just dont allow the kills into score... That would be a start...
GV kills do not improve your bomber score. Only damage to structures has any influence on score & rank calculations. Bombing GVs actually hurts your bomber score. Less damage per sortie, less damage hit percentage and quite often less damage per kill.too
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Perk each additional drone, say 200 each up to 8.... So you can have multiple drones......
GEEZ 8 drones its like a flying CV group. all them guns. well IT WOULD... help against 262's and 163's. in 17's 2 tail and usually 2(ball or top) guns x8 =
32 50s shootin back. I totally :salute that +1
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How many bomber perks do you have? 4k-6k?
I another thread I also support formations of up to 5 planes. With the option of how the formation...forms. Also giving the option of how far away your drones are giving you max coverage or pin point drop.
I like this the best. I like the idea of forming up more drones. I think you should still get your three. Beyond that, you can add drones up to 2 more for a total of 5 bombers. I REALLY like the idea of adjusting your distance.
Since this game is about Air Combat, bombers should have a little more at their disposal. I know the fighter guys are going to say no way because they think this game is all about them, :rofl, but it is not, :O,. I like these ideas too, for when one side is outnumbered. It gives a few defenders more at their disposal. It could also be, that as eny changes so too changes how many or how less drones you have available.
What's more is this will give the B-29 argument a rest. As much as I am in favor for a B29. I heard that HTC will have to adjust runways for the 29 and that is the main reason we will never see it.
Anywho, just take 5 Lancs and the 2000 lb load. That will fix about anything! :D Multiplied by 5 players.
I think the extra drones should be well perked. I fly the 234 often. I do think twice about my approach, fuel, enemy in the area etc. This is how it should be.
So all in all I think these are great ideas as well!! :aok