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Title: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Newman5 on October 28, 2008, 10:05:37 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/biztech/10/28/microsoft.windows.ap/index.html

Other than Skuzzy, who's excited??   :lol
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Chalenge on October 28, 2008, 10:13:31 PM
I believe it will defeat most of the alerts as they say it will but I think it will be even more bloated and that DRM will remain in place. Nothing to get excited about until something earth shattering happens.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Getback on October 28, 2008, 11:25:13 PM
I believe it will defeat most of the alerts as they say it will but I think it will be even more bloated and that DRM will remain in place. Nothing to get excited about until something earth shattering happens.

I've heard it's vista slimmed down. It won't include media player or e-mail and I think it won't have paint. I'd like to see it without IE.

Frankly, I will others try it first.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: DREDIOCK on October 29, 2008, 06:32:14 AM
This should come in handy for those with kids and a porn collection  :rolleyes:

Microsoft also showed off "jumplists," a quick way of organizing recently used files or popular program features. And it introduced a concept called "libraries," which automatically collects similar files scattered across PCs on a home network and displays them together in a single folder. That could be handy for organizing a family's digital photos stored in disparate places.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Skuzzy on October 29, 2008, 06:54:29 AM
Not happy at all.  It is still Vista.  Why would anyone who has plunked down the cash for Vista want to be pushed into paying for, what amounts to, a service pack?

It is moving towards a distributed file system like architecture where your programs and files are no longer resident on your local hard drive.  One day, when your Internet service is down, none of your applications will work, nor would you be able to access important documents, as they will be stored on a Microsoft server somewhere.  What Microsoft could do is pretty scary, quite frankly.

Taking .NET to the next level in an effort to remove more control away from the user and give it to Microsoft.  Brilliant plan.  They probably will be able to pull it off.  Just look at all the happy Vista users out there that have been fooled so far.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 29, 2008, 07:01:26 AM
Web based functionality is probably just another way of handling piracy - they want a controlled enviroment where to run the software.

It's all about maximising profit at the expense of reliability for the end user. They need to push the development of Wine in order to break the dependancy on MS.

Maybe it's really time to move into console gaming - games are the only reason to stick on windows.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Trell on October 29, 2008, 08:04:15 AM
Read it was designed to work with current low powered laptops,  if they can reduce the requirements that low i think they will have a winner.  only issues i have is the bloat and the network speed of vista. if they clear up the bugs it should be fine.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Fulmar on October 29, 2008, 11:10:47 AM
What Skuzzy said.

XP for another 5+ years?
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: indy007 on October 29, 2008, 11:36:04 AM
I've been on Vista 3 months so far. The only problem I've had so far wasn't even Microsoft's fault. Pinnacle doesn't have 64bit drivers for their hardware yet.

Just don't see what the big deal is.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Wyld45 on October 29, 2008, 12:59:58 PM


                                   "You can put lip-stick on a pig, but its still a pig."
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: SPKmes on October 29, 2008, 01:31:04 PM
 :noid Big brother is watching you :noid
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: MrRiplEy[H] on October 29, 2008, 02:43:21 PM
I've been on Vista 3 months so far. The only problem I've had so far wasn't even Microsoft's fault. Pinnacle doesn't have 64bit drivers for their hardware yet.

Just don't see what the big deal is.

Just try using network shares or copying a file on your computer and you'll see..  :devil

Of course the average user doesn't know what to expect from their latest hardware.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Getback on October 29, 2008, 02:52:48 PM
Our IT guy is downloading the Pre-Beta version for me right now. Would that be Alpha?  :lol
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: indy007 on October 29, 2008, 03:18:10 PM
Just try using network shares or copying a file on your computer and you'll see..  :devil

Of course the average user doesn't know what to expect from their latest hardware.

What exactly do you consider "the average user"? :)

I have multiple PCs on my home office network, all hand built by me, with the exception of the laptops. I write all of my own database tools and do windows-based hobbyist robotics. I copy gigs of files back & forth daily. No problems with local networks.

My only gripe is having to run certain things in administrator mode, but that's a 1 time setting on the shortcut.

Even my motion detecting sentry turret, which is a sloppy compilation of various open source APIs in C#, works fine under Vista. The problem I had with it was my own, since I wrote it procedural style instead of object based, and existed under both XP SP2 & Vista.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: detch01 on October 29, 2008, 06:57:53 PM
Windows 7. Vista with bigger and better bugs - seen the touch-screen interface? I can see it now, a $1200 ipod that won't fit in your pocket, randomly stops working for no apparent reason and with security features that will let anyone in the world except the owner access his/her data and apps on a machine in MS's server farm. Yeah sure Bill, sign me up. I'll buy that.   


asw
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Fulmar on October 29, 2008, 08:48:06 PM
I've always been under the impression that Microsoft and Apple have been under the impression that their uses still have mittens pinned to their jackets at home along with safety scissors in their junk drawer.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Wolfala on October 30, 2008, 08:55:14 AM
Well...I actually have gloves in my glove compartment - but then again I am in the minority. XP forever, woot!
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Denholm on October 30, 2008, 09:11:33 AM
Well, guess it's time to write our own Operating Systems.
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Race on October 30, 2008, 10:24:18 AM
Who's up for a few lines of code?

Say a million lines each?

Race
Title: Re: Windows 7 - Early 2010
Post by: Skuzzy on October 30, 2008, 01:16:30 PM
It does not take a million lines of code for an operating system.  UNIX did it fine with less than 100,000 lines of code for many, many years.  A twenty year old UNIX system still does most things better than any Microsoft operating system has ever done and is more stable as well.

Of course, that was in the years when efficient programming actually meant something.  Most modern programmers have no idea, nor desire, to write truly efficient code.  Of course, most modern day programmers are not system programmers anyway.

Microsoft's operating systems are more like an application than an operating system.  Most of Microsoft's code is tied up in the GUI.  The GUI is a shell which is not part of the operating system, even though Microsoft would have everyone believe it is.

A lot of the problems can be traced right back to the human resources departments.  Those guys have no idea how to hire a systems programmer.

Now, if you are talking about supplying all the utilities and applications with the operating system and writting those, then you are into seriously large amount of code work.