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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: BiPoLaR on October 30, 2008, 01:37:53 PM
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The new il2 is WAY to powerful. It blowing tanks up with ease left and right.Gun only. :furious
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The new il2 is WAY to powerful. It blowing tanks up with ease left and right.Gun only. :furious
I used to be fearless in vehicles, now I try to make myself real small when one is around!
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We need this added to the smiles list.
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I took one up after getting annihilated in a Wirbel, with the 37s loadout. It pwnz tanks.
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I actually like the smaller cannons, prefer the lighter weight.
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I took one up after getting annihilated in a Wirbel, with the 37s loadout. It pwnz tanks.
pwnz would be an understatement. It Rapes them.
few pings and p00f, you're dead. Its ridiculous
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When can we have them on a Stuka?
It is much sexier that a IL-2
It looks like an evil insect. :devil
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Not only are the cannons uber the thing is immune to pintle gun fire.
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Not only are the cannons uber the thing is immune to pintle gun fire.
It was almost immune to pintle gun before IIRC.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I was killed by one the other day. They were tank busters. The Germans called them black death. Frankly the werble needs an equalizer and you need something to defend against a horde of gv's when your ammo is disabled.
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
I was killed by one the other day. They were tank busters. The Germans called them black death. Frankly the werble needs an equalizer and you need something to defend against a horde of gv's when your ammo is disabled.
So, if you couldn't defend against someone taking out your ord, you should still be afforded a way to beat back the GV's that works as well as bombs do?
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So, if you couldn't defend against someone taking out your ord, you should still be afforded a way to beat back the GV's that works as well as bombs do?
Better then bombs. You can take a tiger out in one pass with the IL-2's uber taters. On the other hand it takes great aim to kill a tiger with bombs unless you dive bomb it with heavys.
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So, if you couldn't defend against someone taking out your ord, you should still be afforded a way to beat back the GV's that works as well as bombs do?
I guess that is up for discussion. Like your point though and may give it some thought.
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I got HO'd and rammed twice today by fast agile fighters who not only had complete tactical superiority but also the numerical advantage. I guess the IL2 is such a threat theres no option other then flying straight into it. :huh
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I actually like the smaller cannons, prefer the lighter weight.
1/1000.
Need perked 37mms. Please. Begging you.
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Not only are the cannons uber the thing is immune to pintle gun fire.
I've never downed one with just the pintle gun, but I have hit the engine oil numerous times. It has been my experience that once you smoke their engine, they either RTB (giving you a little time) or they end up auguring because of their reduced visibilty and you get the assist because somebody else put more rounds into him already :O.
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I don't even bother tanking near airfields anymore, even if it looks like a fun fight.
Il-2 needs a small perk.
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I don't even bother tanking near airfields anymore, even if it looks like a fun fight.
Il-2 needs a small perk.
Il-2 is fodder for any fighter. You need air cover.
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Il-2 is fodder for any fighter. You need air cover.
Fighters ignore noe Il-2s when there are higher bandits.
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Il-2 is fodder for any fighter. You need air cover.
I was dogfighting a N1K in an IL-2 over one of our VB's one night. He finally got me but it took about 5-10 minutes. The IL-2's not a bad turn fighter but a little help is nice.
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Better then bombs. You can take a tiger out in one pass with the IL-2's uber taters. On the other hand it takes great aim to kill a tiger with bombs unless you dive bomb it with heavys.
B-25H can kill a Tiger or T-34 in one shot as well.
The problem isn't the IL2 but rather with the tank not having air support attacking a position that does. Sounds like bad planning to me.
ack-ack
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BS I can normally hit 3 rounds of the 75 mil in one pass in the b25, but one shot?
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BS I can normally hit 3 rounds of the 75 mil in one pass in the b25, but one shot?
Can and have 1 shot tigers. :aok
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the il2 isnt that great of a ground atack when you have fighters shooting down the il unless they try to ho you in which case is a bad decision i have had countles ocasions when spits would hoe me while i was in an il2 its your wirbles that have the problem they just have to hit it
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pwnz would be an understatement. It Rapes them.
few pings and p00f, you're dead. Its ridiculous
Yeah, i am sure the german tankers in ww2 said the same thing.
"HOW DARE OUR ENEMY INVENT A WEAPON SYSTEM THAT CAN KILL US, HOW DARE THEY!!"
:huh
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The new il2 is WAY to powerful. It blowing tanks up with ease left and right.Gun only. :furious
il2 was powerful long time before the last patch, but was not used as much, and i still prefer the old 23mm because can do almost same damage vs GVs, just takes more shells, but it's way more efficient than 37mm vs air cons picking gv hunters.
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I was dogfighting a N1K in an IL-2 over one of our VB's one night. He finally got me but it took about 5-10 minutes. The IL-2's not a bad turn fighter but a little help is nice.
And how many tanks did you kill while they were covered by that N1K2?
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I've been getting good at giving IL2 the gun.
main gun.
face shooting an IL2 with the main gun is a gas.
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Fail.
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I was dogfighting a N1K in an IL-2 over one of our VB's one night. He finally got me but it took about 5-10 minutes. The IL-2's not a bad turn fighter but a little help is nice.
IL2 is a very good turn fighter if you get it slow enough. I hate them mainly because of the 3rd person same with A20's. Get someone that is half way good in either of those planes and they can hit you 800+ out because of the third person view.
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The last time we discussed this topic, it was pretty easy to figure out that everyone who was against perking the Il-2 spent little or zero time in tanks. Imagine that. ;)
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Now there's a bold statement, completely absent of fact.
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The last time we discussed this topic, it was pretty easy to figure out that everyone who was against perking the Il-2 spent little or zero time in tanks. Imagine that. ;)
I'd say I have more overall time in GVs than you (dec 04). I don't want em perked.
Care to rethink your post?
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I've been flying the iL2 in midwar, yes it will kill pretty much anything if you can hit it.
However I really don't see that it needs perking.
Hitting a panzer hiding in trees is not an easy task. Especially with the big convergence factor.
Now hitting a enemy plane at 800 to 1.4 out, that will make your day and ruin his. But its hard on ammo, and not that easy to do without some practice.
So as usual the defining factor comes down to skill. Those who who have spent the time learning it can kill fairly easy, if they have fighter cover or clear skys. Without fighters near, its quickly a target and then dead, especially when attacking near an enemy base.
However one thing I really dislike doing in the iL2, going up against a pair of wirbles/ostys.
If they are close enough together to support each other the iL2 will end up dead almost every time.
All you can do is try to drop some eggs and hope to take one out.
So if your GVing, bring along a couple of friends in Wirblewinds or Ostwinds. You'll find you have a much easier time of it. And it never hurts to have a few guys flying cap for you either.
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I'd say I have more overall time in GVs than you (dec 04). I don't want em perked.
Care to rethink your post?
Not really, because so far as I can recall, you didn't participate in that thread. ;) Or at least, not very much.
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The last time we discussed this topic, it was pretty easy to figure out that everyone who was against perking the Il-2 spent little or zero time in tanks. Imagine that. ;)
Those that were crying for the IL2 to be perked were using stupid tactics in GVs by attacking without air cover or AA defense against positions that had air cover. Imagine that.
ack-ack
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Those that were crying for the IL2 to be perked were using stupid tactics in GVs by attacking without air cover or AA defense against positions that had air cover. Imagine that.
ack-ack
Oh, wow, that was clever! I just got so pwnd. :rofl
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B-25H can kill a Tiger or T-34 in one shot as well.
The problem isn't the IL2 but rather with the tank not having air support attacking a position that does. Sounds like bad planning to me.
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That is true but you get one maybe two shots per pass and you need to know how to aim it. With the 37mm Il2 you just put the piper on the tank and spray away.
The IL2 is now the main plane I roll with a base is under attack. Its great agenst attacking planes because they make a pass and do little damage, over shoot, then eat some laser 37mms. The only thing I have a problem with is wirbles but Iv just learned how to use trees as cover then pop up at the last second hit thier turret then make a kill pass.
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Oh, wow, that was clever! I just got so pwnd. :rofl
It was never my intent to 'pwn' you, it was merely to point out that the majority of those players like yourself, that want the IL2 to be perked use stupid tactics when attacking without air cover.
Seems to me if you guys would change tactics to counter the IL2 threat, it won't be much of a threat afterwards. An IL2 will have a tough time attacking your tank if it has a few AA vehicles firing at it and a couple of fighters saddled up on its six. Go figure.
ack-ack
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It was never my intent to 'pwn' you, it was merely to point out that the majority of those players like yourself, that want the IL2 to be perked use stupid tactics when attacking without air cover.
Seems to me if you guys would change tactics to counter the IL2 threat, it won't be much of a threat afterwards. An IL2 will have a tough time attacking your tank if it has a few AA vehicles firing at it and a couple of fighters saddled up on its six. Go figure.
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Well, as you read in the other thread, I learned my lesson about Il-2s in the first tour they were introduced. That's why they haven't killed me this tour; I adapted. The sad part is that adapting to the Il-2 means avoiding some potentially fun gv fights that would have been fun 2 months ago, but which are fun no more.
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Well, as you read in the other thread, I learned my lesson about Il-2s in the first tour they were introduced. That's why they haven't killed me this tour; I adapted. That sad part is that adapting to the Il-2 means avoiding some potentially fun gv fights that would have been fun 2 months ago, but which are fun no more.
Your just lucky they didn't have the patients to learn the IID.
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The last time we discussed this topic, it was pretty easy to figure out that everyone who was against perking the Il-2 spent little or zero time in tanks. Imagine that. ;)
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Granted I don't spend quite as much time in vehicles as I used to, but I believe perking the IL-2 is a silly idea.
(Just as silly an idea as those who whine that the WW needs perked, BTW.)
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The sad part is that adapting to the Il-2 means avoiding some potentially fun gv fights that would have been fun 2 months ago, but which are fun no more.
Why? Afraid your score will suffer? :O
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Why? Afraid your score will suffer? :O
Just like Bronk, you're pathetically trolling. Nice try. :aok
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Il-2 34
LVTA4 1
M-16 2
Ostwind 13
Panzer IV H 6
PT Boat 1
Sherman VC 1
T-34/76 9
Wirbelwind 13
It's nice that you have a few kills in tanks. :P
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The new IL-2's rock
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Not only are the cannons uber the thing is immune to pintle gun fire.
The oil bin is still as exposed as ever.
Like I said in the other thread, the Il2 is a flying piece of trash.. Just have a WW around (gasp "teamwork") and at best it dies disabling the WW turret. The tank the WW's covering can almost ignore the Il2; save for dive bombing attacks.
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Just like Bronk, you're pathetically trolling. Nice try. :aok
What? You say..
The last time we discussed this topic, it was pretty easy to figure out that everyone who was against perking the Il-2 spent little or zero time in tanks. Imagine that. Wink
I as one who have more overall GV time than you doesn't want a perk. That constitutes trolling? Ahhh I see pointing out the inaccuracies of your statements is now trolling. Welcome to Krusty status. I bet your knowledge of the arboreal is quite extensive also. :rolleyes:
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Your just lucky they didn't have the patients to learn the IID.
I love the IID but it's horribly vulnerable to any kind of ground fire, unlike the IL2.
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What? You say..
I as one who have more overall GV time than you doesn't want a perk. That constitutes trolling? Ahhh I see pointing out the inaccuracies of your statements is now trolling. Welcome to Krusty status. I bet your knowledge of the arboreal is quite extensive also. :rolleyes:
No, I was referring to what you were dong to bipolar in the other il-2 thread. Pretty easy to figure that one out.
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I'd say I have more overall time in GVs than you (dec 04). I don't want em perked.
Care to rethink your post?
If that's what counts as point out my inaccuracies, I don't deny that you have more gv time than me, but you have almost none since the new Il-2 came out. Representing yourself the way you did here is a bit disingenuous.
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I got popped in a tiger by Lusche with an Il2. It's still the same big and slow bird that needs to very precisely and predictably make its gunning approach.. AAA fodder. Just have an Ostie or WW on standby like they did historicaly. There's no sense in complaining that gameplay is shifting towards more teamwork, more bullets flying around blowing toejam up.
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dong to bipolar
Freudian slip? :rofl
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I routinely take damage to the oil or radiator from mg fire in the Il2. The claims of the Ils being impervious to pintle/turret mgs is quite an exaggeration.
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The claims of the Ils being impervious to pintle/turret mgs is quite an exaggeration.
But it's easier to claim that in an attempt to get the IL2 perked so some wouldn't have to waste valuable brain cells coming up with sound tactics that deal with an air threat. Wouldn't be surprised if those whining to perk the IL2 are the same that want the Spitfire Mk XVI, LA 7, etc., perked.
ack-ack
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But it's easier to claim that in an attempt to get the IL2 perked so some wouldn't have to waste valuable brain cells coming up with sound tactics that deal with an air threat. Wouldn't be surprised if those whining to perk the IL2 are the same that want the Spitfire Mk XVI, LA 7, etc., perked.
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I was the one that said that and I don't think the IL2 needs to be perked.
I've been flying the IL2 quite a bit since the revision and I haven't been damaged by pintle fire yet, even though I've taken a lot of it. The worst damage I've seen so far is a hole in the windscreen glass. I did however get taken out by a Panzer's main gun on an incredibly lucky crossing shot.
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No, I was referring to what you were dong to bipolar in the other il-2 thread. Pretty easy to figure that one out.
LOL bipolar is a big boy so i don't think he neeeds you defending him. Not to mention he familiar with trolling soo....let us just leave it at that.
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LOL bipolar is a big boy so i don't think he neeeds you defending him. Not to mention he familiar with trolling soo....let us just leave it at that.
Defending no..calling it like he sees it, yes.
you have a good day bronk :aok
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Defending no..calling it like he sees it, yes.
you have a good day bronk :aok
Don't you have a whine to post...or something? :aok
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Fighters ignore noe Il-2s when there are higher bandits.
I've learned to prioritise low Il-2s when there are a lot of friendly GVs on the deck. I know the thing is a monster for them and easy pickings for me. On two recent occasions I lucked out and the higher bandits came down to the deck after me (or trying to save their Il-2 budy). They were easy pickings for the FLAKs that I just saved from the Il-2 once they lost their E.
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Il-2 34
LVTA4 1
M-16 2
Ostwind 13
Panzer IV H 6
PT Boat 1
Sherman VC 1
T-34/76 9
Wirbelwind 13
It's nice that you have a few kills in tanks. :P
Someone help me out . . . was this supposed to be a slam? :huh
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The new IL-2's rock
Naa... I could, and did, kill Tigers with the 23mm package. Now almost anyone can do it with the 37mm package.
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Someone help me out . . . was this supposed to be a slam? :huh
Nope. It was intended as a subtle, back-handed compliment. :devil
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Perk the rocket assisted turrets!
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Yeah, that ain't kosher. No dodging.
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well my IL2 must be a reject
i can pump shots in to osties wirbles tanks and m3s and they
still dont die :(
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well my IL2 must be a reject
i can pump shots in to osties wirbles tanks and m3s and they
still dont die :(
lol It's all in the wrist action and I ain't calling you a W****r. Line up. Go default zoom. Keep steady & fire....pop goes the weasle.
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After seeing this thread i upped a Il2 yesterday with the 37mm gun package, and promptly kicked arse with it. Killed a T34, Panzer, and a Tiger....no ord needed. Maybe now the groundlings will think twice before they try to roll up on a field and camp the runways :D :salute