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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Getback on October 30, 2008, 02:37:39 PM
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http://techreport.com/discussions.x/15797
Interesting trivia.
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I still have this six/seven year old AMD Athlon running at 1.33 GHz. :P
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This little Allendale was probably the most under-rated CPU Intel shipped. Rock solid at 3.2Ghz, on stock cooling, and stock voltage for over a year.
EDIT: I think I paid $95.00 for it, new.
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I raise you this:
(http://www.sleektech.nl/~dm/temp/fanboy/cd-352-5ghz.png)
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Very good.
A celery should be able to clock well though. Much lower transistor count, less power, runs cooler, but also runs slower per clock. By the way, how long and stable has it been running at that clock? For some reason the voltage field is blank. Bumped a bit?
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Oh that wasn't my machine.
images.google.com
Search: 5ghz
:P
My home machine is sitting at 2.66ghz (E6400). So I haven't ventured very far.
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Oh good gosh. You got it from the Internet and you believe it? :) Hehe.
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(http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/5428/cpuzpl8.png)
Supposed to be 2.40Ghz but it clocks back when it's near idle.
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Running an E6420 at 3.4Ghz (stock speed 2.12Ghz)originally stock cooling but thought it looked rather bland in my case and replaced it with a heat sink direct 3rd party cooler.
ack-ack
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[insert smiley with had buzzing over the top]
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Hmm guess I'll jump in with my AMD. :D
(http://a19.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/33/l_7ba0976f1016d4a8c3f5e5204f433dfa.jpg)
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(http://derstuhl.net/images/misc/CPUID_2-66.jpg)
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How are you guys posting those images? I have one screen printed but I can't get in to paste nor can I get it to upload from ImageShack. There use to be a browse option but I don't see it.
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I press "Print Screen", open paint 'paste', crop the image, resize, save and host.
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Stock E8400. 3.0Ghz
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Question, do you overclock from the Motherboard's BIOS? Or do you use some software to overclock?
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Bios
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Karaya, that's like buying a brand new ATV and only driving on the street. You need to get out there and get dirty.
When I get home tonight I will post my CPU-Z...I hope. Now frankly, I really can't match some your folks skills and knowledge but it does run at a comfortable 3.8 ghz and I want to show that.
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Karaya, that's like buying a brand new ATV and only driving on the street. You need to get out there and get dirty.
I had my Conroe OC'd to 3.2 Ghz but clocked it back to stock. Not only that, I turned on SpeedStep. It runs much cooler now and throttles the CPU back from 2.66 Ghz to 2.0 Ghz when idle. When it needs the extra processor speed it throttles back up instantaneously.
Maybe I'll OC it again at some point but I really don't see the need for it.
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I had my Conroe OC'd to 3.2 Ghz but clocked it back to stock. Not only that, I turned on SpeedStep. It runs much cooler now and throttles the CPU back from 2.66 Ghz to 2.0 Ghz when idle. When it needs the extra processor speed it throttles back up instantaneously.
Maybe I'll OC it again at some point but I really don't see the need for it.
At idle my CPU drops to 2.4 ghz via the multiplier which drops from 9.5 to 6.
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First thing I shut off is SpeedStep.
It does not always kick the CPU back to full speed. Case in point is one of the posters who ran CPUZ and it showed the CPU still throttled back. CPUZ takes a while to run. The CPU should not have throttled back when it was running. Instead, it should have throttled up.
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Quick question about overclocking. Does auto-overclocking software work safely? I tried it on my old CPU and it took it from 2.1 to 2.7, but I was never sure if it was a safe way of doing it. Is manual OCing safer, or is auto just as safe?
Just in case it's asked the software came wih my Motherboard.
:salute
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I think the auto overclocking stuff is pretty stupid. Like my Asus board has options like OC 10%-25%. I never enabled them because I didn't know what parameters it was changing (i.e. voltage, FSB, multiplier, RAM, timings etc). It's best to learn the basics of OC and do it the manual way. You'll help avoid potential problems if you fully understand what you're doing, rather than just hitting one button and praying smoke doesn't come out :P
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First thing I shut off is SpeedStep.
It does not always kick the CPU back to full speed. Case in point is one of the posters who ran CPUZ and it showed the CPU still throttled back. CPUZ takes a while to run. The CPU should not have throttled back when it was running. Instead, it should have throttled up.
I have my CPU FSB, multi, and voltage (along with other things) on my system monitor on my desktop. I haven't seen it skip a beat yet and haven't experienced any issues with it.
When I installed my Arctic Freezer 7 I clocked back, enabled SpeedStep, C1E and whatever the other throttler is that always escapes me just in case the Arctic Freezer popped loose or something. I didn't want to be deep in a game and unintentionally fry my CPU. Well, that's never happened so I've been thinking about OCing again but on the other hand, it's kind of comforting to know that nothing bad will happen to my CPU given the worst of circumstances.
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And yet, this (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,250902.msg3088964.html#msg3088964) person does indeed have an issue with SpeedStep not stepping up the CPU speed when it should have.
Apparently, it can happen.
I am with you Fulmar on the automatic overclock. You have no idea what parameters are being adjusted when you run with those settings. Best to take your time and learn the proper way to do it, if you are going to do it.
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I've never been 'too' concerned about overheating/frying my CPU. Motherboard and chip mfgers have done a good job with having the system shut down during overheating. I remember my first computer build. 2 weeks after I built it, my friend that helped me with it did not secure the latch on the heatstink very well. So I booted up one day and before I got to windows my computer shut off and I couldn't reboot it. Open up the case and my heatsink was resting on top of my video card.
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I have never been concerned about it either as Intel CPU's have had thermal protection built into the CPU for many years now. The CPU will not allow itself to be over heated.
Something many AMD users, which have moved to Intel, are not aware of.
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And yet, this (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,250902.msg3088964.html#msg3088964) person does indeed have an issue with SpeedStep not stepping up the CPU speed when it should have.
Apparently, it can happen.
Sheesh... sorry. I wasn't arguing with you. Just explaining my experience and the reason that I did it. And no, I have never owned an AMD processor.
[EDIT] Now for my question/observation: Can't the Intel CPU throttlers be disabled in the BIOS (C1E and whatever that other one is)?
The reason I ask is that, when I first built this machine I was having some heat issues. I had the throttlers enabled in the BIOS. Every once in a while, my screen would go dark as, I'm assuming, the CPU shut down and I'd have to re-boot.
Then I disabled the trottlers in the BIOS. It turned out my HSF came unplugged from the mobo and when I noticed it, my CPU was at 90C. It had neither throttled back nor shut down at that point but was still humming along, far beyond the temps where it had began to shut down previously.
That seems to indicate that, while the throttlers are built into the CPU, they are controlled through the BIOS. True or false?
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No. There is no defeating the on chip thermal protection. It cannot be altered. It is a last ditch mechanism and it will allow the CPU to reach high temperatures before cutting in, but it will not allow the CPU to be damaged.
I have demoed this a few times. Once by accident. :)
I was not trying to argue with you about the SpeedStep thing BE, just citing there are issues that can cause it to kick in when you do not want it to and vice-versa.
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I think the auto overclocking stuff is pretty stupid. Like my Asus board has options like OC 10%-25%. I never enabled them because I didn't know what parameters it was changing (i.e. voltage, FSB, multiplier, RAM, timings etc). It's best to learn the basics of OC and do it the manual way. You'll help avoid potential problems if you fully understand what you're doing, rather than just hitting one button and praying smoke doesn't come out :P
Well the program I use I wasn't quite sure about. It opens and shows CPU voltage, and a few other dials. If i hit 'Auto' it will go through a constant upping of voltage and things, constantly showing the small steps on the dials. The PC will auto restart when it hits a spot it can't handle and auto-backs down to a safe level. Seemed a little dangerous in case it didn't back down.
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I used uGuru by Abit to overclock mine. I've never felt real comfortable about it but it has worked.
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No. There is no defeating the on chip thermal protection. It cannot be altered. It is a last ditch mechanism and it will allow the CPU to reach high temperatures before cutting in, but it will not allow the CPU to be damaged.
I have demoed this a few times. Once by accident. :)
You tripped over the HSF cable? :D
Sorry... couldn't resist.
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I wondered what it would be like to be famous, once. Like the man says, "Careful what you ask for.".
I keep thinking all you old farts will start losing your memory and it will be finally forgotten. OY! :)
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I wondered what it would be like to be famous, once. Like the man says, "Careful what you ask for.".
I keep thinking all you old farts will start losing your memory and it will be finally forgotten. OY! :)
Hey, I resemble that remark! (Old fart overused line) :rofl
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http://s370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/?action=view¤t=Ghz.jpg
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I wondered what it would be like to be famous, once. Like the man says, "Careful what you ask for.".
I keep thinking all you old farts will start losing your memory and it will be finally forgotten. OY! :)
Forget what Roy??? :o
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(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/Ghz.jpg)
Wow, finally got it figured out with some help from my squaddies. Here it is gentlemen.
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Picking on my CPU huh? :noid
Oh well, I'll take your advice and turn off SpeedStep and see how it goes, OC'ed my CPU to 3.0Ghz anyways.
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I have an older, 478-pin Prescott, mildly overclocked with both the FSB and voltage bumped up a bit...
(http://kenshelby.us/images/cpu.bmp)
I also tuned my DDR2 RAM up a little, and have it set for 2 clocks CAS.
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(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/4gz.jpg)
Made some adjustments
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(http://i370.photobucket.com/albums/oo150/aesopsoze/4gz.jpg)
Made some adjustments
I'll be patiently awaiting the thread titled "CPU just went... boom" :D
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I'll be patiently awaiting the thread titled "CPU just went... boom" :D
:rofl :rofl :rofl Now that was good. Hopefully it won't. Ran it for 3 hours this morning and no hitches, hiccups, or stutters.
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Here is my CPU-Z link http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=432597 (http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=432597) This processor and heat sink are lapped. In 3DMark06 19468 is my best score to date with the present setup. Linked and Synced
(http://www.div-overlay.com/9450.jpg)