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Title: Your top five leaders
Post by: oakranger on November 03, 2008, 12:29:50 AM
Who are your top five leaders.  This includes presidents, kings, queens, empire, chiefs, and CO.

1. Robert E. Lee
2. Erwin Rommel
3. Deganawida
4. Patton
5. Teddy Roosevelt.
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Nilsen on November 03, 2008, 01:40:36 AM
Yoda
Majestix
Queen Amidala
Cleopatra (hot!)
Commander Adama
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: ink on November 03, 2008, 03:00:37 AM
Genghis  khan
Sitting bull
Alexander the Great
Miyamoto Musashi(i know he wasn't any of the listed leaders but he was one of the greatest warriors this world has ever seen)
Bruce lee (same reason as Musashi)
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Angus on November 03, 2008, 03:48:04 AM
Cunningham
Guderian
Rommel
Patton
Zhukov
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Gixer on November 03, 2008, 04:27:40 AM
1. Alexander the Great

2. Julius Caesar

3. Hannibal

4. Ghengis Khan

5. Saladin (Salahuddin Ayyubi)


Anyone in the last two hundred years has merely tried to imitate these great leaders/generals.


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Furball on November 03, 2008, 07:07:23 AM
Will go for some not already mentioned:-

Churchill
Augustus Caesar
Nelson
Cromwell
Duke of Marlborough
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: RipChord929 on November 03, 2008, 07:18:51 AM
Crazy Horse
Douglas MacArthur
Quana Parker
Lawrence of Arabia
Geronimo

Just had to get some unmentioned
ppl in there!!!

Too many to list

RC
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Nilsen on November 03, 2008, 07:19:19 AM
Will go for some not already mentioned:-

Churchill
Augustus Caesar
Nilsen
Cromwell
Duke of Marlborough


only third?  :cry
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Timofei on November 03, 2008, 07:46:20 AM
 Mohandas (Mahatma) Gandhi
 Nelson Mandela
 Tenzin Gyatso (14th Dalai Lama)
 Martin Luther King, Jr.
 Aung San Suu Kyi
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: -tronski- on November 03, 2008, 08:10:09 AM
Lt Colonel Sir Ernest Edward "Weary" Dunlop, Medical officer POW Thai-Burma railway
General Sir John Monash, 3rd Division, 1st AIF
Brigadier Arnold Potts, 21st Bde, 2nd AIF
Lt Colonel Ralph Honner, 39th Battalion (Militia), 2nd AIF
Major Harry Smith, D Co./6RAR, 1st Australian Task Force, Nui Dat

 Tronsky
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: mipoikel on November 03, 2008, 08:14:04 AM
- my wife
- Leila(siamese cat)
- Mosse (another cat, oriental)
- dad
- mom
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Lusche on November 03, 2008, 08:18:17 AM
Grand Schtroumpf
Großer Schlumpf
Papa Smurf
Papá Pitufo
Grande Puffo

For 50 years now, his people are facing a fierce, remorseless and cruel enemy, utterly determined to conquer and completely extermine them. They are facing lots of hardships, but thanks to the wise leadership of Papa Smurf, they are still prevailing, never even coming close to loosing their jolly spirits!

Cunning military genius, clever scientist, philosopher and a true father to his people!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/9e/Papasmurf2.jpg/101px-Papasmurf2.jpg)

 :salute


Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 03, 2008, 08:24:21 AM
Themistocles
Pericles
Socrates
Jefferson
Darth Vader :D
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: RTHolmes on November 03, 2008, 09:38:39 AM
1. Alexander the Great
2. Julius Caesar
3. Hannibal
4. Ghengis Khan
5. Saladin (Salahuddin Ayyubi)

definitive list :aok
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Fulmar on November 03, 2008, 10:47:50 AM
Yoda
Majestix
Queen Amidala
Cleopatra (hot!)
Commander Adama


Winner
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Curval on November 03, 2008, 11:57:51 AM
No mention of Lord Nelson?

"Never mind the manouvers...straight at 'em!"
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: AWRaid on November 03, 2008, 12:24:46 PM

These are my 10 personal favorites...

Erwin Rommel
Robert E. Lee
George Patton
Claire L. Chennault
Gauis Julius Caesar
Ernst Udet
Manfred von Richthofen
Erich Topp
Alexander the Great
Adolf Galland


In no order. I left plenty off the list that should be on it but these are more 'my favorites' than who is the best. Though I feel each person on the list was one of the greatest in their fields - whether it be tactical skill, leadership, morale boosting..etc
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Tom5572 on November 03, 2008, 01:26:37 PM
BG David Grange (may not have heard of him but I would have charged hell with a bucket of water for him)
Gen Patton
Gen Chesty Puller
Gen Erwin Rommel
Gen Yamamoto (cannot spell his first name)

BG Grange commanded the 1st Infantry Division in 1999 and had the audacity to tell then president Clinton the truth that we were not prepared to fight a war, being a police force fine, but a war, no.  Took guts to do that and they canned him for it.  <S> BG Grange, best Divisional Commander I have ever seen (a long the lines of Gen Gary Luck for those who served under him).
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: BoilerDown on November 03, 2008, 03:17:58 PM
Admiral Adama
Captain Picard
Captain Henry J. Gloval
Yoda
Ellen Ripley (hot!)

Fixed your post of fantasy leaders!
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Bronk on November 03, 2008, 03:31:15 PM

Commander Adama

Lorne Greene or Edward James Olmos ?
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: john9001 on November 03, 2008, 03:33:42 PM
No mention of Lord Nelson?

"Never mind the manouvers...straight at 'em!"

his ship, the Victory was so badly damaged it had to be towed back to England, just saying.

on topic, by what criteria do you judge a top leader?
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: BoilerDown on November 03, 2008, 03:42:10 PM
Lorne Greene or Edward James Olmos ?

He's gotta mean the character portrayed by Olmos, but for that matter Eddy could almost be listed IRL too.
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Masherbrum on November 03, 2008, 03:46:09 PM
1.  Alexander the Great
2.  Hannibal
3.  Julius Caesar
4.  Heinz Guderian
5.  Zdzisław Krasnodębski
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Furball on November 03, 2008, 03:50:28 PM
No mention of Lord Nelson?

"Never mind the manouvers...straight at 'em!"

Will go for some not already mentioned:-

Churchill
Augustus Caesar
Nelson
Cromwell
Duke of Marlborough


 :furious
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Furball on November 03, 2008, 03:57:25 PM
his ship, the Victory was so badly damaged it had to be towed back to England, just saying.

:lol :rofl

I will just post a link to his naval career: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson,_1st_Viscount_Nelson#Admiralty
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Angus on November 03, 2008, 04:14:19 PM
I should have swapped out someone from my list for Nelson.
Anyway, then I'd have needed more slots, for I also forgot Yamamoto.......
But, good point and good article Furbie :aok
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Curlew on November 03, 2008, 07:10:19 PM
5)Yamamotto
4)Nelson
3)FDR
2)Patton
1)Kirk :salute
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Curlew on November 03, 2008, 07:12:57 PM
:lol :rofl

I will just post a link to his naval career: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horatio_Nelson,_1st_Viscount_Nelson#Admiralty


Lol, Nelson was a genius,
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Buzzard7 on November 03, 2008, 10:39:41 PM
No mention of Sun Tzu?
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: comet61 on November 03, 2008, 10:45:53 PM
Henry V
Rommel
Patton
J. Caesar
Alexander the Great
Peter the Great
Stonewall Jackson
and last but not least...Eric Von Zipper.

many more
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: VonMessa on November 03, 2008, 11:08:28 PM
Stampf

RMrider

Ben Franklin

Chase Utley

The Philly Phanatic

 :P

Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 03, 2008, 11:46:54 PM
Capt Wilton Parmentor
Chief Wild Eagle
Col Henry Blake
Sergeant Vincent Carter
Captain John Morton

Now lets see how many of you can name their branches of service
Particularly the last one  :)
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: VonMessa on November 04, 2008, 04:43:32 AM
Union Army

Leader of Hikawi Tribe

US Army

USMC

CONFEDERATE Army
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Curval on November 04, 2008, 05:02:40 AM
his ship, the Victory was so badly damaged it had to be towed back to England, just saying.

on topic, by what criteria do you judge a top leader?

That is because his ship faced the full fury of the combined fleet on the approach as his was the lead ship and the first to break the line.

Leading from the front is my criteria.  We'll never know yours I guess, but I suspect the leading criteria for you would be "American".

Sorry Furby...didn't notice your mention of Nelson. :)
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: RipChord929 on November 04, 2008, 05:04:06 AM
Oops, Forgot about Sgt John Striker...
Sgt Rock,
Sgt Guffy,
Sgt Nick Fury,
And, last but not least, Big Joe...

Without those guys, we would have lost the war for sure...

RC
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: hlbly on November 04, 2008, 05:38:18 AM
Capt. Kirk
Scipio Germanicus
Otto Skorzeney
Mordecai Tal
Stonewall Jackson
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: DarkglamJG52 on November 04, 2008, 05:40:20 AM
Most influential people:

- Buddha
- Augustus Caesar
- Abu l-Qasim Muhammad ibn ‘Abd Allāh al-Hashimi al-Qurashi
- Paul the Apostle + Constantine the Great
- Henry VIII

Great military people:

- Alexander
- Julio Caesar
- Gengis Khan
- Napoleon


And Von Manstein, Guderian, Zhukov and others allied generals eat  Rommel for breakfast.



Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Holden McGroin on November 04, 2008, 05:50:29 AM
No order:

Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce
---The architect of the tactical retreat of the Nez Perce east accross the great divide, it is still studied at West Point 

Crazy Horse
---War Chief of the Lakota masterminded the battle of Little Big Horn

Mohandas Gandhi
---Achieved independance without war

Winston Churchill
---Rallied his country in its darkest day

Haile Selassie
---Rallied his country in its darkest day

Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Curlew on November 04, 2008, 06:56:10 AM
The 5 gretest to have ever seen comand :salute

5)Archer
4)Sisco
3)Piccard
2)Janeway
1)Kirk
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: vonKrimm on November 04, 2008, 07:20:19 AM
Capt Wilton Parmentor
Chief Wild Eagle
Col Henry Blake
Sergeant Vincent Carter
Captain John Morton

Now lets see how many of you can name their branches of service
Particularly the last one  :)

Union Army

Leader of Hikawi Tribe

US Army

USMC

CONFEDERATE Army


Now name their respective T.V. shows for the big cookie
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 04, 2008, 07:46:23 AM
Union Army

Leader of Hikawi Tribe

US Army

USMC

CONFEDERATE Army


yep
yep
Yep
yep
NOPE (Different Captain John Morton)
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: DMBEAR on November 04, 2008, 08:16:37 AM
1. Moe
2. Moe
3. Moe
4. Moe
5. Curly.... Ow! errrrr, Moe..Knuckknuckknuck.
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Furball on November 04, 2008, 08:53:24 AM
I am curious as to why so many people choose Julius Caesar over Augustus?

JC did a brilliant job sorting the Gauls out, but from what i understand (i am no expert), on the whole it was Augustus who set the foundations of the Roman Empire and managed to balance the support of the senate and people.

On another note, who are your worst leaders in history?  I find this much more difficult, a few i can think of off the top of my head: -

Mussolini
Nero
Nixon
Pol Pot
Charles I
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 04, 2008, 09:18:22 AM
I am curious as to why so many people choose Julius Caesar over Augustus?

JC did a brilliant job sorting the Gauls out, but from what i understand (i am no expert), on the whole it was Augustus who set the foundations of the Roman Empire and managed to balance the support of the senate and people.

On another note, who are your worst leaders in history?  I find this much more difficult, a few i can think of off the top of my head: -

Mussolini
Nero
Nixon
Pol Pot
Charles I


Oh boy, I can think of a list just from the 20th century.
Hitler
Stalin
Pol Pot
Mao
Ceauşescu
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Kitt18 on November 04, 2008, 09:27:39 AM
5. Les Claypool
4. Bruce Dickinson
3. Till Lindeman
2. Geddy Lee
1. Robert Plant
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: caldera on November 04, 2008, 09:28:13 AM
Oh boy, I can think of a list just from the 20th century.
Hitler
Stalin
Pol Pot
Mao
Ceauşescu


Don't forget Jimmy Carter.
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: bozon on November 04, 2008, 09:43:08 AM
Limiting myself to the 20th century:

1. David Ben-Gurion
2. Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
3. Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi
4. Winston Churchill
5. Franklin Delano Roosevelt
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Wobbly on November 04, 2008, 10:03:56 AM
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:R8wBM6l51AM6hM:http://www.lessons-from-history.com/Images/CAE%2520Images/Churchill%2520pvctorys.jpg)
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:mBIHu-e8hrb_oM:http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1979/1101790514_400.jpg)
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(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:26i9Z09KRX1t-M:http://www.freewebs.com/thehammers/bobby%2520moore.jpg)
(http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:74FSdDSg4-drsM:http://www.bbc.co.uk/southyorkshire/content/images/2008/05/02/1vaughn_365x470.jpg)
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: VonMessa on November 04, 2008, 10:09:53 AM
Now name their respective T.V. shows for the big cookie

F Troop

F Troop

M.A.S.H.

Gomer Pyle


 :P
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: VonMessa on November 04, 2008, 10:10:43 AM
yep
yep
Yep
yep
NOPE (Different Captain John Morton)

Damn, not from Tennessee?  We actually studied that battle in school.
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: SirLoin on November 04, 2008, 10:26:28 AM
Top 5 Overated Leaders.

Collin Powell
Dali Lama
Mother Teresa
Martin Luther King
Ghandi
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 04, 2008, 10:45:57 AM
Top 5 Overated Leaders.

Collin Powell
Dali Lama
Mother Teresa
Martin Luther King
Ghandi

Jesus
Alexander the Great
Julius Cesar
Churchill
Yoda :D
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: apcampbell on November 04, 2008, 10:56:12 AM
Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson
(http://www.sonofthesouth.net/leefoundation/Jefferson_Davis/General_Stonewall_Jackson_small2.jpg)
-No mercy to the invaders of our hearth and homes!

Joshua Chamberlain
(http://www.brotherswar.com/General_Joshua_Chamberlain.jpg)-On his own initiative, he ordered his men to come to attention and "carry arms" as a show of respect to Lee's men when they surrendered at Appomattox Court House.

George "Pap" Thomas
(http://www.sherpaguides.com/georgia/civil_war/northwest/george_h_thomas-chickamauga.jpg)
-With Rosecrans knocked silly, "Pap" Thomas would NOT be moved!

Robert E. Lee
(http://johngaltfla.com/blog2/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/CSA_General_Robert_E_Lee.jpg)
-The most Beloved and respected General in all American Military History

and

(http://nicedeb.files.wordpress.com/2007/12/chuck_norris.jpg?w=195&h=150)
-No explaination needed.
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: ink on November 04, 2008, 12:19:14 PM
Yeshua
Alexander the Great
Julius Cesar
Churchill
Yoda :D


just wanted to fix that for ya.
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: hlbly on November 05, 2008, 03:26:44 AM
Lt.  Eggert a 2nd Lt. who was smart enough to know what he didn't know . Once when he was my Company Commander  I heard him give a Butter Bar one of the best pieces of advice I ever heard given to a no rank fuzz butt just graduated ROTC caditiot . " Never confuse a superior mind with a superior eduaction ."
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: uptown on November 05, 2008, 06:42:40 AM
1.Churchill
2.FDR
3.George Washington
4.Ben Franklin
5.Thomas Jefferson
6. My dad  :cool:
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 05, 2008, 07:06:37 AM
Damn, not from Tennessee?  We actually studied that battle in school.

I didnt realize there was  a RL leader of the same name until you mentioned it.

Though with the theme I went with. I dot know why anyone would have thought  I would have included on.

Lets try again. I'll provide a hint

Capt Wilton Parmentor
Chief Wild Eagle
Col Henry Blake
Sergeant Vincent Carter
Captain John Morton

::Hint:: the last one

"Allllright. Whooo did it?"
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: VonMessa on November 05, 2008, 07:29:46 AM
I thought you were throwing a serious one in there.

If not, you can only be referring to Mr. Roberts.

(My Grandfather, who lives with my wife and I, is a WWII Navy Vet)    :D
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: DREDIOCK on November 05, 2008, 07:38:20 AM
I thought you were throwing a serious one in there.

If not, you can only be referring to Mr. Roberts.

(My Grandfather, who lives with my wife and I, is a WWII Navy Vet)    :D

Give that man a Cigar

So is my father in law.

Eye witnessed the signing of the Japanese surrender from on board the USS Pasadena
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: VonMessa on November 05, 2008, 07:58:15 AM
Have you taken him to see the USS New Jersey anchored over in Camden, yet?  My Grandfather served on the  tanker, USS Monongahela (AO-42) 

I offered to take my Grandfather to see the New Jersey.  He responded by telling me that he has seen it plenty of times and has put more fuel in that vessel than I will put in all the cars I have ever owned, or will own in my lifetime.     :rofl
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: ELD66 on November 05, 2008, 08:02:11 AM
1 Napoleon Bonaparte
2 Alexander the Great
3 Julius Cesar
4 King Leonidas
5 Queen Elizabeth I
Title: Re: Your top five leaders
Post by: SuBWaYCH on November 05, 2008, 04:08:05 PM
5. Augustus (set the basis for the roman empire)
4. Chief Josepf (for reasons stated earlier)
3. Napoleon/Rommel
2. King Leonidas of Sparta
1. Julius Cesar/Alexander the Great/Constantine