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Title: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 04, 2008, 01:23:26 AM
Was bored today, so I made my first AH2 video.

I kept it pretty small, about 9mb...  Was wondering how large of a file I could have gotten away with and still been acceptable for sharing here?  I would like to go somewhat larger to get better resolution. 

Take a look and tell me what you think.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=ea9273c6ecfdbe5dab1eab3e9fa335ca2f8c479c45d15c69
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: Fulmar on November 04, 2008, 10:03:27 AM
You have a 5 1/2 minute movie and only a 9mb file.  You could have gone up quite a bit in quality actually.  The last movie I did (VF31 Tomcatters) runs about 5:15 and about 39mb.  I rendered mine at 640x480 and about 90% quality and IIRC 160 kbps mp3 codec.  You can see what those settings look like here:
http://www.aceshighmovies.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=56&task=view.download&cid=76
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 04, 2008, 10:20:39 AM
You have a 5 1/2 minute movie and only a 9mb file.  You could have gone up quite a bit in quality actually.  The last movie I did (VF31 Tomcatters) runs about 5:15 and about 39mb.  I rendered mine at 640x480 and about 90% quality and IIRC 160 kbps mp3 codec.  You can see what those settings look like here:
http://www.aceshighmovies.com/index.php?option=com_jdownloads&Itemid=56&task=view.download&cid=76

Thanks for letting me know.  I knew I was a bit under the curve, as far as resolution goes.  If I have time later, I may re-run it at a higher resolution.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: Denholm on November 04, 2008, 11:47:52 AM
You can go A LOT higher. Some of our prestigious film makers will run a 5 minute video on a 100MB .wmv file. There's a lot more you can do.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 04, 2008, 01:19:42 PM
I worked on it a bit more and rendered it at a higher setting. 

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=ea9273c6ecfdbe5dab1eab3e9fa335ca8c2656944c080dd3

See what you think of it.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: 1pLUs44 on November 04, 2008, 04:12:57 PM
Good Video :salute
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: flatiron1 on November 04, 2008, 04:53:41 PM
 Not very clear. You having the same problem I was in my first few attempts. Try setting FRAPS to full size and 50fps. Also I prefer the films without the icons, and try some camera shots. also I thing putting it on media fire vs youtube works best because it uses windows media player

my first movie

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,249943.0.html

my 3rd movie

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,250387.0.html
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 04, 2008, 04:57:28 PM
I'm not using Fraps.  I can't justify the cost of buying it, and I don't want to have to fudge around with the 30 seconds limitation of the unregistered version.  I can do a crystal clear version easily, but it would be too large of a file.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: flatiron1 on November 04, 2008, 05:02:26 PM
what are you using, guncam? I have found that when I do my editing the 30 second thing is not that bad.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 04, 2008, 05:07:11 PM
what are you using, guncam? I have found that when I do my editing the 30 second thing is not that bad.

I converted to AVI with the Film Viewer, then imported the shots into a program called Video Wave 8.  I chose to do it this way because I already had the Video Wave software and have used it for quite some time to edit other videos.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: BMathis on November 04, 2008, 05:16:28 PM
I can do a crystal clear version easily, but it would be too large of a file.
I downloaded Kermit's 20 minute film and it was 293MB or something huge... It was worth every minute of it.  :aok

My films run around 90MB for 4-6 minutes... Quality is usually what people usually want to see (Depends on your films purpose though), along with many other factors - Denholm can list those  ;)

EDIT:

Just saw your film. It's a great first movie Dave! Love the action, and the single plane focus on the Ki. Music choice was nice, and I could tell you were getting the hang of syncronizing the music and the footage as you went along. Bravo sir. You have a talent for this, and soon enough your be getting fraps, and adding soundtrack music, gun sounds, explosions, damage, etc... You just wait. Another AH addiction born.   ;)

As far as the quality, It may just be your graphics card, not the rendering. I have to manually turn my graphics up before I start filming the the Film viewer. Then I see a major difference in quality. I turn it all back down before flying to keep FRs high.

Keep 'em coming.

<<S>>

Mathis
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 05, 2008, 08:26:17 AM
I hadn't thought of turning up my graphics settings before capture.  I'll give that a whirl sometime.

I'm a little curious about fraps.  All of the things that you listed that I could start adding (sound effects etc) are all things that I can currently do with my own software.  The Video Wave 8 software I am using for editing is pretty powerful and honestly some of the most user friendly video editing software I have ever come across.

I'm curious what other abilities Fraps has.  If I'm going to fork out the $37 to buy it, I'm curious to know what it really can do.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: Denholm on November 05, 2008, 09:06:38 AM
FRAPS is video and sound capture only if I recall correctly. You can't use it to add or edit sound effects. FRAPS will record sound effects if you film in-game, however if you film from the Film Viewer you might want to dump any sound it records and use your own.

Quality is usually what people usually want to see (Depends on your films purpose though), along with many other factors - Denholm can list those  ;)
:D

Only if he asks.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 05, 2008, 10:37:44 AM
FRAPS is video and sound capture only if I recall correctly. You can't use it to add or edit sound effects.

I'm curious what you all are using for editing together the clips then?
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: BMathis on November 05, 2008, 12:08:31 PM
Sony Vegas 8.0
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: Denholm on November 05, 2008, 12:11:13 PM
Dang it! You beat me to it.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: flatiron1 on November 05, 2008, 12:47:13 PM
windows movie maker
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 05, 2008, 02:42:52 PM
So, what is the advantage of using Fraps for the capture, rather then just convert from an ahf?
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: Fulmar on November 05, 2008, 02:59:21 PM
So, what is the advantage of using Fraps for the capture, rather then just convert from an ahf?
Actually, converting via the AHF is better.  IIRC in the AHF, the outputted .avi files are uncompressed and have no codec attached to them.  Recording with fraps captures video in a Fraps codec, so there is some compression going on.

Fraps may be easier to record and set up.  That's the only advantage I can think of.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 05, 2008, 09:50:21 PM

Just saw your film. It's a great first movie Dave! Love the action, and the single plane focus on the Ki. Music choice was nice, and I could tell you were getting the hang of syncronizing the music and the footage as you went along. Bravo sir. You have a talent for this, and soon enough your be getting fraps, and adding soundtrack music, gun sounds, explosions, damage, etc...



By the way, I meant to thank you for your kind words.  Much appreciated. 
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: BMathis on November 06, 2008, 12:38:40 AM
By the way, I meant to thank you for your kind words.  Much appreciated. 
You're very welcome. I look forward to your next film.  :salute
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 06, 2008, 08:31:58 PM
Just learned that PhotoBucket would host a streaming version of my video, for those folks who don't like to download files from folks they don't know (perfectly understandable).

Here's a link to it, enjoy.

http://s177.photobucket.com/albums/w220/Davis_Andrews/?action=view&current=AH2VideoHRWMVBQ.flv


bah...  for some reason the last 10 seconds got clipped off...
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: caldera on November 06, 2008, 09:16:22 PM
Very cool dave!  :aok
That's my favorite Ki skin, I applaud your good taste. (wait - i don't quite like the way that sounds)
I love when you split that spit in half longitudinally. I've only done that once and it was using a Yak 9t.
Well done.
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: PFactorDave on November 06, 2008, 11:08:03 PM
Very cool dave!  :aok
That's my favorite Ki skin, I applaud your good taste. (wait - i don't quite like the way that sounds)
I love when you split that spit in half longitudinally. I've only done that once and it was using a Yak 9t.
Well done.

Thanks!  Ki-84s rule!  :aok
Title: Re: Made my first AH2 video, have a question
Post by: Kazaa on November 07, 2008, 12:24:33 PM
Nice film, fast paced, good use of different angles and a nice shot to top it off. :D