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Title: B-25H tank kills
Post by: TrueKill on November 09, 2008, 09:49:52 AM
I thought Id start a thread were we can upload some films of our B-25H's killing tanks. This is one that just happened about an hour ago in mid war.



http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/B25H%205kills.zip
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: 1701E on November 09, 2008, 10:40:16 AM
I get too many to pick the good ones. :D
Although I wish I had film of the Wibly I got from 3K out.

Guess it's time to start looking for good films! :aok



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Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Spikes on November 09, 2008, 11:59:40 AM
Ahh I gotta start saving my sorties! I've had plenty of good ones, sometimes where I'd shoot random shots 4K out and have it blow up. Others where I try to be sneaks and fly as low as the sheep graze, shut my engine off and glide in to kill the guy. Even when I taxi up to him and kill him. :)
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: TrueKill on November 09, 2008, 12:09:13 PM
Even when I taxi up to him and kill him. :)

Iv did that before. The side I was on was camping the other sides spawn and I had one of my wingtips shot off by a wirbel but I was able to land on top of hill. The enemy's spawn was on the side of it so I started rolling down using the brakes to get the gun low enough. I got two kills before I got a 75mm point blank to the melon. 
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Anaxogoras on November 09, 2008, 01:35:52 PM
My only tank kill in the B-25H was when our VH was down and the enemy was about to camp our runways, so I taxi'd out and popped him with the 75mm. :rofl
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: 1701E on November 09, 2008, 08:15:34 PM
Always fun to taxi out and kill them of course. :D
Have to do that a lot when they have fighters around.  Been using the B-25 as my primary GV killer and some times plane killer since it came out.
Taken a bit of practice, but I have learned it decently well, well enough to out-fight a C205 and kill Ostwinds without getting hit. :aok
Now to find my films....This could take a while. :)
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Saxman on November 09, 2008, 11:41:56 PM
Even with the up-gunned Il-2, I think the B-25H is still proving to be the game's premier tank buster.

Now if only HTC would give us the AP mix we have evidence of being used by 25H crews....
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Lusche on November 10, 2008, 12:22:58 AM
Even with the up-gunned Il-2, I think the B-25H is still proving to be the game's premier tank buster.


I beg to differ because

- The Sturmoviks firepower is easier to employ, the higher ROF helps more in getting kills than the 25's ability to hit at longer ranges, which is very difficult for the average player
- The new 37mm gun means that B-25 and Hurri D have no longer the advantage of being the only planes able to bust Tiger & T34 on a regular base
- The Sturmovik is a smaller, target more nimble and overall better armored which gives it enhanced survivability vs enemy fighters and suddenly appearing Wirbelwinds

The B-25 however has the advantage of carrying a few nice bombs, but killing GVs with bombs isn't really my thing ;)

A few numbers just fyi, not to conclusively prove anything:

vs Panzer:
25: 147-109 K/D 1.35
Il2: 859-190 K/D 4.52

vs Tiger
25: 7-25 K/D 0.28
Il2:31-47 K/D 0.66

vs T34/85
25: 32-70 K/D 0.46
Il2: 120-167 K/D 0.72

vs Wirbelwind
25: 117-352 K/D 0.33
Il2: 505-845 K/D 0.60

I never had expected that the Il2 had such a big K/D advantage in killing Tigers, as the B-25 can carry 1000lbs bomb...
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: PFactorDave on November 10, 2008, 06:34:36 PM

I never had expected that the Il2 had such a big K/D advantage in killing Tigers, as the B-25 can carry 1000lbs bomb...

I suspect that that is directly related to the fact that Air to Ground kills are most often scored in defense of an airbase that is under GV attack.  Most GV mission planners like to have the ordinance bunkers knocked down before the GV assault occurs.
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 10, 2008, 07:08:04 PM
Last night had a blast with the B-25H over TT in the LW arena, managed to score two kills with one round.  A Jeep was dropping off supplies to a panzer when my shell hit right between them, saw the turret on the panzer blow about 100ft into the air and the jeep explode along with all the supplies it dropped.  Good times that resulted in some quality whines on channel 200.


ack-ack
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Delirium on November 12, 2008, 01:10:00 AM
- The Sturmovik is a smaller, target more nimble and overall better armored which gives it enhanced survivability vs enemy fighters and suddenly appearing Wirbelwinds

That is the reason the 25 will never reign supreme over the Il2. The B25 moves like a pregnant tree sloth when jumped and the Il2 at least can dodge some of the incoming fire.
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: TrueKill on November 12, 2008, 03:11:07 AM
That is the reason the 25 will never reign supreme over the Il2. The B25 moves like a pregnant tree sloth when jumped and the Il2 at least can dodge some of the incoming fire.


Or just down right kill the fighters.  :lol

http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/IL-2%20Kills.zip (http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/IL-2%20Kills.zip)
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Yossarian on November 12, 2008, 01:28:26 PM
That is the reason the 25 will never reign supreme over the Il2. The B25 moves like a pregnant tree sloth when jumped and the Il2 at least can dodge some of the incoming fire.

Not quite, if you have around 250mph and preferably several thousand feet of altitude, you can get in an Immelman or two, and then several hammerheads.

Also, since most people will see the B-25 as a really easy kill, half the pilots you get will sit on your six, and if all else fails, the tail gun can be quite effective.
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: comet61 on November 14, 2008, 11:59:55 PM
I have found that the B25H is a great Lanc killer...especially when they're low and slow. That cannon can kill more than GV's you know.  ;)
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Rich46yo on November 15, 2008, 10:34:39 AM
I agree that, gunwise, the new IL-2 is the best tank buster in the game. You can ride an IL-2 almost right up to the tank and really hose it. Then is a wirbel pops up you can egress at treetop using terrain as cover and make yourself very small. But, all this is what Lusche said.

I know on a tank moving rapidly the IL-2 is a much better tank killer cause you can ride it down right on top of the tank, moving or no. And you get much better attack angles with the IL-2. I would say also that to master the B-25Hs big gun you need more skill and finesse then most are willing to put into it. I get into one and I'm pretty helpless hitting anything.

We had a herd,horde of Hs the other day on the rook side and seeing about 25 of them coming in on a base full of GVs was a sight.
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Larry on November 15, 2008, 12:11:23 PM
I use this site I made. I just ask you not to use it on me.   :D


The "600" works from around 500-800 because the round doesnt drop that much at that range. The 1000 and 1.5k is for bombers but Iv only tryed it a few times and got only one kill on a lanc. To use it level off right on their six and aim. They also come in good for long range guess aiming on PTs and ack.


 

(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/B25h.bmp)
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: 1701E on November 15, 2008, 12:16:54 PM
I have found that the B25H is a great Lanc killer...especially when they're low and slow. That cannon can kill more than GV's you know.  ;)

Yep, works on N1Ks and C2s as well. :D
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Larry on November 22, 2008, 09:01:56 PM
Yep, works on N1Ks and C2s as well. :D


Yep best niki killer ever!   :lol


http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/1.5%20B25h%20kill.zip
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Bronk on November 22, 2008, 09:13:10 PM

Yep best niki killer ever!   :lol


http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/1.5%20B25h%20kill.zip
:O :O
What a shot!
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: 1701E on November 22, 2008, 09:21:55 PM

Yep best niki killer ever!   :lol


http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/1.5%20B25h%20kill.zip

Impressive shot there. :)

Bombers from 3K, fighters at 1K, GVs at 3.5K, Ack at 6K; records I am yet to beat.  But a N1k at 1.5 while not in level flight, very nice shot. :aok


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Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Larry on November 22, 2008, 09:29:48 PM
I was amazed when I saw it hit. I usually just shoot at them and if it hits the ground near them you can take pieces off. Like I told Qcare that was just pure luck.
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: comet61 on November 23, 2008, 04:20:40 PM
Several times I have wiped out several Lanc's and B24 formations with the B25H using cannon a 50's. Having 3200 rounds and 21 rounds of HE can be devastating. If I am buff hunting I will set the convergence to 500+. I only use 1/4 fuel (30 minutes). If this is something one would like to try....go to offline and practice on the B24 drone around the bases....try it out on the other planes as well. This is where I practiced my cannon shots. A good burst of 50's (8 of them) isn't too shabby either.
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Larry on November 28, 2008, 10:55:07 PM
I made a new sight for the B25 and got a good situation to test it out today. My main tank killing dot was off by a bit that's why I was missing so many shots, but I think I have it set right now. After it all I got away with 12 kills in one sortie without a rearm.


http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/12%20B25H%20kills.zip
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Yossarian on December 01, 2008, 02:38:50 PM
Could you please post the updated gunsight?
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Larry on December 01, 2008, 04:56:06 PM
Its just the same sight with the 600 mark kept and a few notches under it for ranging shots.



(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/B25h2.bmp)
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: Yossarian on December 01, 2008, 05:03:52 PM
Its just the same sight with the 600 mark kept and a few notches under it for ranging shots.



(http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/4/24/1013733/B25h2.bmp)

Thank you very much  :aok <S>

Yossarian
Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: mechanic on December 01, 2008, 06:09:47 PM
(http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/sherman.JPG)

additional film: http://www.freeroleentertainment.com/shermanAntiair.ahf

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Title: Re: B-25H tank kills
Post by: MORAY37 on December 01, 2008, 06:44:56 PM
I have found that the B25H is a great Lanc killer...especially when they're low and slow. That cannon can kill more than GV's you know.  ;)

There is nothing better at all in this game than running an Buff intercept with the B25.  Sitting 1.5K out, immune, and plinking bombers...... Once, landed 8 kills in the B25, all buffs, all Air to Air.  Run out of big rounds and you still have all those .50 cals to use, albeit, a little more wisely.